quick grab your pitch forks, it's Dustin Hoffman now.

Vronsky

A Little Pony wrote: »

Hillary worked all her life to be President. This myth that Hillary somehow has better morals than Trump should be debunked. I have always thought she is worse than Trump and still do. She played a key role in the mess which is now Libya. Even bragged about it which is on Youtube for all to see.

Morality doesn't come into it, although there are levels of abuse, you have to step on people to make it to the top of politics and every politician has enemies. The problem with Trump is that he's not just amoral (nothing new really for the president of the USA) he's also a hot headed idiot loudmouth with a big ego. For example, Hillary would have had the political nous to take a firm line with North Korea, but it's impossible to think she would have taken to the kind of Twitter sabre rattling like trump making the risk of an accidental war exponentially greater.

There's not going to be a big name actor untouched by this scandal left in Hollywood since it appears to have been cultural. Furthermore once the sexual allegations dry up, you'll hear of serious bullying and harassment next.

AnneFrank

Wait till Corey feldman has his say

Think we need a thread who wasn’t a deviant in Hollywood- spose it would be a short thread

Vronsky

Vronsky wrote: »

There's not going to be a big name actor untouched by this scandal left in Hollywood since it appears to have been cultural. Furthermore once the sexual allegations dry up, you'll hear of serious bullying and harassment next.

We’re going to get to a stage where, someone got a bollocking from their boss and go ‘metoo’

gw80

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Taylor Swift has successfully brought a sexual assault charge against some-one grabbing her arse.
Times are a changing fellas. You cant get away with what once was commonplace!
I for one am so happy, as I can see this knocking on to younger generations of men, the only thing that was ever going to make men stop was women beginning to talk about it and the world saying it is wrong. What will make men stop is the fear of being charged now. I will no longer have to live in a place/world where I am groped. I feel happier already.

Be careful what you wish for

donegaLroad

He was great in Midnight Cowboy.. I could take or leave pretty much everything else he has appeared in.

AnneFrank

Charlie babitt

Danco

lifeandtimes wrote: »

What does it even mean? It makes no sense. Like Michael Scott from the office trying to make a funny joke and making a balls of it

"Say what you will about Michael Scott, but he would never do that."

branie2

Gaylord Focker's father

chicorytip

lazybones32 wrote:

Who has contacted the police to make a complaint or is Twitter the highest authority?

Effects wrote:

It's already out there on twitter who he is.

She(Dr.Ciara Kelly) is simply attempting to garner publicity and raise her own profile. Have any of these rape victims made formal statements to the Gardai?

Tigger

soap1978 wrote: »

Muahahaha wrote: »

Not quite Hollywood but Dr.Ciara Kelly claims she is aware of a well know Irish media personaility who raped several women. She herself claims he tried it on with her and sent her private messages that amounted to sexual harassment. She is seeking his victims and is trying to organise his outing on Twitter at the moment. Ive no ideas of who it might be, all that she said is that he is in his 60s, has a national profile and is on Twitte
gay bryne

hes 80+

MRnotlob606

joe stodge wrote: »

He was whacking off in front of people, I'm led to believe.

Judging by his style of comedy. I'm pretty sure that's something he'd do exactly.

MRnotlob606

Who's next? James Corden?

EPAndlee

Who knows where these accusations are going to stop and with who. I think that living in such a sexualised society causes alot of this

Effects

chicorytip wrote: »

She(Dr.Ciara Kelly) is simply attempting to garner publicity and raise her own profile. Have any of these rape victims made formal statements to the Gardai?

Not all rape victims make statements to the Gardaí. That doesn't make it ok.

suicide_circus

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Well that's disturbing.

Yes, women have been treated like animals for a long time, with no rights, thoughts, or opinions, but hey, it was okay then!

Yes that's exactly what I said. Curb your imagination.

greencap

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Judging by his style of comedy. I'm pretty sure that's something he'd do exactly.

proof enough for me.


guilty.

gormdubhgorm

joe stodge wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/dustin-hoffman-sexual-harassment-3674320-Nov2017/

I thought he only went after auld ones?

Beechwoodspark

Effects wrote: »

It's already out there on twitter who he is.

The guy who did media work involving the egg chasers let's say?

suicide_circus

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The guy who did media work involving the egg chasers let's say?

Egg chasers? This is getting cryptic

_Dara_

I see a picture of Louis CK on the thread. Isn’t the stuff about him pretty doubtful? AFAIK, it was started by a website that has been caught making up shit in the past.

lazybones32

Jayop wrote: »

Something like this? Would it even still be within the statute of limitations? What would the offense be? Grabbing her arse once?


If something isn't a crime does that mean it's not wrong?

Sexual assault on a minor would have no statute of limitations. Methinks the 'severity' of the crime is based on the status of the offender...

lazybones32

Effects wrote: »

Not all rape victims make statements to the Gardaí. That doesn't make it ok.

But it does mean justice will never be served.

OU812

Hey famous people! (or just people in general)

I find a good general rule for life is to not say or do anything to someone that you wouldn't like said or done to yourself in prison.

It's kind of like the rule of the rock (but more open)

_Dara_

Mickeroo wrote: »

I think it's important that this doesn't turn into some sort of witch pursuit thing.

Agreed. My sister was drunkenly giving out about Neil Degrasse Whatshisface the other night, saying someone accused him of rape, just the one person. I was like “oh right, well, innocent until proven guilty” and she was like “I always believe the accuser”. I was thinking “WTF?”.

jonon9

_Dara_ wrote: »

Agreed. My sister was drunkenly giving out about Neil Degrasse Whatshisface the other night, saying someone accused him of rape, just the one person. I was like “oh right, well, innocent until proven guilty” and she was like “I always believe the accuser”. I was thinking “WTF?”.

Its a very frightening thing isnt it.

trashcan

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

thats the outdoor dustin that you saw and knew so well.

its the behind closed doors dustin( kevin harvey etc etc) we are finding out about now.

Ah no not Kevin Harvey now :mad: Are there no heroes left !

KungPao

scandal update: Dustin Hoffman sleeps nude in an oxygen tent which he believes gives him sexual powers.

branie2

Dramatization, may not have happened.

KungPao

KungPao wrote: »

scandal update: Dustin Hoffman sleeps nude in an oxygen tent which he believes gives him sexual powers.

When Hofffman was asked for comment, "Hey that's a half truth"

server down

_Dara_ wrote: »

Agreed. My sister was drunkenly giving out about Neil Degrasse Whatshisface the other night, saying someone accused him of rape, just the one person. I was like “oh right, well, innocent until proven guilty” and she was like “I always believe the accuser”. I was thinking “WTF?”.

I tend to believe more than one independent accuser.

suicide_circus

server down wrote: »

I tend to believe more than one independent accuser.

You should mention that to the judge next time youre called up for jury duty.

I always liked Dustin Hoffman. Humanity is disappointing me a lot lately.

Dr Brown

JMNolan wrote: »

Dustin Hoffman - “I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation. I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am."

That's an admission of guilt alright.

I wonder if I went and robbed a back and I was caught could I say thats not really who I am ?

mikeysmith

anna080 wrote: »

"ill have a hard boiled egg and a soft boiled clitorus"

That is really disturbing. Only a fcuked up mind would say something like that.
It's like something from Silence of the Lambs.

It's like he's got tourretes or something

Sex pest tourretes syndrome

I can see how he got the part in Rainman

Probably playing himself without the innuendo

splinter65

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Well that's disturbing.

Yes, women have been treated like animals for a long time, with no rights, thoughts, or opinions, but hey, it was okay then!

What country are you talking about where women have no rights thoughts etc?

server down

suicide_circus wrote: »

You should mention that to the judge next time youre called up for jury duty.

I’m sure I will. To his delight. You know that’s how people are found guilty, right, of old sexual crimes? Nobody had a camera on Rolf Harris. There’s no dna, no fibres, no bodily fluids, no remaining evidence of years old assaults.

There are, however, lots of accusations amounting to what was considered sufficient evidence of wrong doing.

splinter65

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The guy who did media work involving the egg chasers let's say?

You’ll have to do better then that...oh egg chasers....husband just filled me in there (pardon the pun)...

Odhinn

server down wrote: »

I’m sure I will. To his delight. You know that’s how people are found guilty, right, of old sexual crimes? Nobody had a camera on Rolf Harris. There’s no dna, no fibres, no bodily fluids, no remaining evidence of years old assaults.

There are, however, lots of accusations amounting to what was considered sufficient evidence of wrong doing.

There was a letter to the father of the victim where he admitted to his offence.

lazybones32

Candie wrote: »

I always liked Dustin Hoffman. Humanity is disappointing me a lot lately.

Oh come off it! That's the tamest one to date. I hope i get to slap teen a$$ when i'm in my 40's.

(And kudos to you for thinking a person who is paid for pretending to be different people is a good example of humanity. The word 'hypocrite' was the latin word for actor)

server down

Odhinn wrote: »

There was a letter to the father of the victim where he admitted to his offence.

That’s not the only thing he was convicted off, and he claimed in court the relationship was consummated when she was 18, which the letter neither confirmed nor denied.

Those of you who don’t believe multiple independent accusers should instead make that known to the judge if called to jury service, because you would clearly convict nobody of old sexual crimes.

wakka12

JMNolan wrote: »

Dustin Hoffman - “I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation. I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am."

That's an admission of guilt alright.

Why do these celebrities basically admit to it? Theres hardly any proof if it was that long ago? Kevin spacey all but admitted as well

suicide_circus

server down wrote: »

That’s not the only thing he was convicted off, and he claimed in court the relationship was consummated when she was 18, which the letter neither confirmed nor denied.

Those of you who don’t believe multiple independent accusers should instead make that known to the judge if called to jury service, because you would clearly convict nobody of old sexual crimes.

Ah get off your soapbox. I would convict someone on evidence not solely on the basis of more than one independent accuser.

mikeysmith

wakka12 wrote: »

Why do these celebrities basically admit to it? Theres hardly any proof if it was that long ago? Kevin spacey all but admitted as well

Because it's probably true and denial fuels the scandal.

Brings the other victims out

server down

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ah get off your soapbox. I would convict someone on evidence not solely on the basis of more than one independent accuser.

You started soapboxing with your bollockingly stupid “tell that to the judge”

There is no physical evidence for old sexual crimes.

Odhinn

server down wrote: »

You started soapboxing with your bollockingly stupid “tell that to the judge”

There is no physical evidence for old sexual crimes.

There is often evidence that an assault took place, though not obviously of who did it.

suicide_circus

server down wrote: »

You started soapboxing with your bollockingly stupid “tell that to the judge”

There is no physical evidence for old sexual crimes.

I rest my case.
Case closed.

It’s like 2016 except instead of the celebrities dying, they’re becoming the walking dead.

As for this story, I’m getting the feeling there’s a race on to call out your pervey celeb story. Hopefully this is the beginning and end of it but who knows at this stage

Rock stars have in the main, been absent from these stories so far; I would have thought a lot more stories would have circulated at this stage about them; maybe in the music world it was a more relaxed approach on both sides ; or maybe it’s early days.?

Wibbs

splinter65 wrote: »

What country are you talking about where women have no rights thoughts etc?

Stop with your hard questions S...

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

Rock stars have in the main, been absent from these stories so far; I would have thought a lot more stories would have circulated at this stage about them; maybe in the music world it was a more relaxed approach on both sides ; or maybe it’s early days.?

Well David Bowie, Jimmy Page, Marvin Gaye, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Bill Wyman among a long list of music's miscreants had sex with underage girls. Some as young as 13/14. Yep, Well outa fcuking order. It might well be dodgy if a 60 year old rock star is lusting after 25 year old women, but WTF with 14 year old girls? Who looked like 14 year old girls. IMHO Those sick bastards needed working on with pliers and battery acid.

Never mind that the accusations against Spacey and other older gay guys of trying to get the leg over younger men(above the age of consent), when the average big rock band's backstage shenanigans with older guys and younger women is accepted, even lauded as part of the mythos of being "rock stars".

I think a lot of it is down to the idea that rock stars do rock star things and preach hedonism, whereas Hollywood has long tried to push a different wholesome agenda and image. In the old days it was "American family values", nowadays it's "liberal/right on" values. Mick Jagger at 72 banging a 22 year old(as apparently he's doing as we speak) while more than a bit ugh and cringe inducing is at least, considering his and his environment ethos, not being hypocritical about it.