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Necro · 05-01-2018 4:04pm

Fourier wrote: »

(None, Dwarven Cleric) vs (Dwarf,Cleric):

1. (None, Dwarven Cleric) goes up to Level 20, (Dwarf,Cleric) goes to Level 8

2. (None, Dwarven Cleric) has better saving throws

3. (Dwarf,Cleric) can multiclass, as the Dwarf race can

4. (Dwarf,Cleric) has access to destructive spells

5. (Dwarf,Cleric) levels at the rate of Cleric. (None, Dwarven Cleric) levels at the rate of 1.5 x (None, Dwarf). So (None, Dwarven Cleric) is about twice as slow at leveling.

Pros and Cons to both. Up to level 20 though... screw destructive magic!!

sKeith · 05-01-2018 4:04pm

When dwarf cleric reaches lvl 8 does collecting xp becomes pointless?

Fourier · 05-01-2018 4:07pm

sKeith wrote: »

When dwarf cleric reaches lvl 8 does collecting xp becomes pointless?

He'd have to multiclass basically. I knew a guy who refused to multiclass as a gnome (who have similar limits), so by the end of the game he had ~1 million unusable XP.

sKeith · 05-01-2018 4:10pm

Fourier wrote: »

He'd have to multiclass basically. I knew a guy who refused to multiclass as a gnome (who have similar limits), so by the end of the game he had ~1 million unusable XP.

But, he survived to the end of the game, so maybe there was method in what may seem like madness!

Fourier · 05-01-2018 4:13pm

Just another minor point, the spell Greater Confusion (Illusionist spell) reads:

This spell is a more powerful version of confusion. The function
is identical, except every being in a 40' square area is affected.
Illusionists can save versus spells to avoid the effects, as may
fighters or subclasses of fighters except rangers and paladins.
Non-magical, low intelligence creatures are entitled to a saving
throw.

So note: (Dwarf, Fighter) has a chance to resist this, but (None, Dwarf) does not.

Necro · 05-01-2018 4:15pm

Hehe.

I'm generally confused so a little old spell won't worry Bandylegs.

(Waits for Fourier to update game thread now :P )

Banjo · 05-01-2018 4:29pm

So, max of 3 classes.
Vampires multiclass for free in exchange for the endless persecution and endless weaknesses.
Vampires can be assassin's

Conclusion : I can just declare myself an assassin?

Fourier · 05-01-2018 4:30pm

I was wrong about None multiclassing. Updated above. I actually asked one of the designers.

TLDR: Yes, you can be a Dwarven Dragon Samurai.

Fourier · 05-01-2018 4:31pm

Banjo wrote: »

So, max of 3 classes.
Vampires multiclass for free in exchange for the endless persecution and endless weaknesses.
Vampires can be assassin's

Conclusion : I can just declare myself an assassin?

Sorry, the "Blood Magic User" is free when multiclassing. Updated above. You'll multiclass like only two classes.

Fourier · 05-01-2018 4:36pm

Necrominus wrote: »

Hehe.

I'm generally confused so a little old spell won't worry Bandylegs.

(Waits for Fourier to update game thread now :P )

The caravan lads are really just waiting on ye at the moment.

Fourier · 05-01-2018 4:37pm

Necrominus wrote: »

Sorry again Fourier, I know I've wrecked your head re: this yesterday and today

No worries! Better to have BandyLegs.

Banjo · 05-01-2018 4:42pm

Fourier wrote: »

Sorry, the "Blood Magic User" is free when multiclassing. Updated above. You'll multiclass like only two classes.

So blood magic tracks my pre-turn class?
But still... Eeeeeenteresting. Will have to read that manual when I get done with the one for Shadowrun (which will be never!)

Hey, since Vampire is a race, turning a Race elf, halfling or dwarf would cause them to lose powers? Or would their race become their primary class with blood magic user?

Fourier · 05-01-2018 4:43pm

Banjo wrote: »

Hey, since Vampire is a race, turning a Race elf, halfling or dwarf would cause them to lose powers? Or would their race become their primary class with blood magic user?

They'd lose powers.

Tigger · 05-01-2018 4:43pm

soni cant be a hafling ranger?

Mollyb60 · 05-01-2018 4:45pm

These last 2 pages have gone right over my head. Can't I just be a Human Thief? Kal is a simple guy.

Banjo · 05-01-2018 4:45pm

Fourier wrote: »

The caravan lads are really just waiting on ye at the moment.

In that case can I assume night has fallen, catch up to the caravan, make my introductions and stop moping?

Necro · 05-01-2018 4:49pm

Fourier wrote: »

The caravan lads are really just waiting on ye at the moment.

Oh I know

I have my requests in. :pac::pac:

Fourier · 05-01-2018 4:52pm

Mollyb60 wrote: »

These last 2 pages have gone right over my head. Can't I just be a Human Thief? Kal is a simple guy.

Yep, no need to worry about it. These are all just extra options, so just ignore, the stuff from the original book is more than enough.:)

Digital Solitude · 05-01-2018 4:53pm

Mollyb60 wrote: »

These last 2 pages have gone right over my head. Can't I just be a Human Thief? Kal is a simple guy.

I just gonna be a simple Cleric, we can revel in the joys of soloclassing

sKeith · 05-01-2018 4:54pm

Mollyb60 wrote: »

These last 2 pages have gone right over my head. Can't I just be a Human Thief? Kal is a simple guy.

so not interest in human, ninja thief then.

sKeith · 05-01-2018 5:01pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

I just gonna be a simple Cleric, we can revel in the joys of soloclassing

careful, with that kind of talk you may find a class thrust upon you by faith.

eg. on the camel is a high priest of nir, he gets down and walks over to moy, "hail servant of nir," he says, "nir wants you to train to be a ninja, refuse and he will smite you down. ta ta now, i'm away to walk the desert alone for 300 days." He then walks into the desert alone, never to be seen again.

Banjo · 05-01-2018 5:09pm

I thought you were going Druid, Digi?

Banjo · 05-01-2018 5:38pm

Banjo wrote: »

In that case can I assume night has fallen, catch up to the caravan, make my introductions and stop moping?

Fourier wrote:

The meat? Giant scorpion, an acquired taste."

So....that's a big fat no, isn't it

Fourier · 05-01-2018 5:56pm

Banjo wrote: »

So....that's a big fat no, isn't it

It's more how the timelines align. If I skipped ahead to night with you, you'd be ahead of BandyLegs and Ekbard's conversation by a good few hours.

Banjo · 05-01-2018 6:14pm

Fourier wrote: »

It's more how the timelines align. If I skipped ahead to night with you, you'd be ahead of BandyLegs and Ekbard's conversation by a good few hours.

So that's a solemn oath not to jump me with a giant scorpion? Accepted!

Fourier · 05-01-2018 6:17pm

Fourier wrote: »

I was wrong about None multiclassing. Updated above. I actually asked one of the designers.

TLDR: Yes, you can be a Dwarven Dragon Samurai.

Further to this, the explanation would be that one of your parents (usually mother) was a dragon in human, etc. form.

Fourier · 05-01-2018 6:19pm

Tigger wrote: »

soni cant be a hafling ranger?

You can!:D

sKeith · 05-01-2018 6:24pm

Fourier wrote: »

You can!:D

race NONE class halfling + ranger

edit: or dragon + halfling + ranger :eek:

Tigger · 05-01-2018 6:44pm

ok i havent leveled up yet so can i go back to being a class 4 hafling with

33,833.5xp

and then start multi classing how do i spend the xp

Fourier · 05-01-2018 9:02pm

Tigger wrote: »

ok i havent leveled up yet so can i go back to being a class 4 hafling with

33,833.5xp

and then start multi classing how do i spend the xp

First of all you wouldn't meet the requirements for a Ranger which are:

Int: 12
Wis: 12
Con: 15

Being reborn allows Statistic adjustment, would you agree to

STR: 10
DEX: 12
CON: 15
INT: 12
WIS: 12
CHA: 8

If so it would work as follows:

Okay so let's do a straight split.

Level 4 => 8,125 XP

Remaining XP => 25,709 XP

Split between classes => 12,855 XP each.

20,980 XP for Halfling, hence Level 5.
12,854 XP for Ranger, hence Level 4.

Unlocks for Halfling:
Long Bow Master:
+4 to hit
1d10 + 4 damage
AC vs Two opponents: -2

Unlocks for Ranger:
+4 damage against bugbears, orcs, kobolds, goblins, hobgoblins, ogres, ettins, all giants, and trolls

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