Unpopular GAA opinion - MOD Note #426

blanch152

TrueGael wrote: »

It's easy say 'change the station', 'Ignore it' but it is incredibly difficult as every newspaper , TV Station, Radio Station & Social Media constantly bombards us with Dublin GAA 24/7, no other county gets 10% of the attention. No wonder they can attract such a high volume of sponsors - they are bigger than the sport


Kilkenny certainly didn't when they were winning left right and centre. Tyrone didn't in the 00's and Kerry most certainly didn't at any point.


And it's not even all entirely Football related - The WAGS get loads of attention as well - it's reminiscent of the England soccer team under Sven the coverage is overbearing and really grates on neutrals

You seem to know far more about the Dublin team than I do and I follow them all over the country. I haven't a clue about who is going out with who other than some of the Women's final coverage showed some of the men's team following them. I only picked that up because I was watching a football match.

I actually think that the Dublin presence in the media is surprisingly small given the size of the county. The local papers outside Dublin carry much more gossip and local news about their county teams than any of the Dublin papers carry about Dublin.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

TrueGael wrote: »

It's hilarious considering the fact that the people of Dublin spit in the face of the protagonists of the 1916 Rising and cheered the British for quelling the rebellion, it wasn't known as the Pale for no reason

If it wasn't for the republicans most notably in Kerry and Cork leading the charge we would still be beholden to the Crown today.

Kerry was far less active than Tipp.

Billy86

Can someone remind me how many of the 1916 protagonists were actually from Cork, how many were from Kerry and how many were from Dublin?

Yeah it might be convenient to certain people's narratives, but still... :pac:

ProudDUB

Billy86 wrote: »

Can someone remind me how many of the 1916 protagonists were actually from Cork, how many were from Kerry and how many were from Dublin?

Yeah it might be convenient to certain people's narratives, but still... :pac:

Doesn't matter.

The Langers can always claim Michael Collins, so those feckers always win any of those arguments on the sheer X factor vote alone.

Remind them that ROG was born in San Diego, not Cork, and they'll turn on ya like a hot snot left out in the sun....but whatever...they're a contrary lot ! :rolleyes:


Don't think that being anti the Sinn Fein jerseys, is an unpopular opinion btw. Yes, you'll see a few of them on match days. But they are vastly out numbered by people wearing the official kit, or older versions of them. Look at any crowd shot over on Sportsfile, of the Hill or the terraces that Dubs primarily stood on down in Portlaoise and KK. All the white collars and stripes of the AIG jerseys, stand out very vividly in the crowd shots. People are voting with their feet (or wallets ?) on what they choose to purchase and wear on match days and, it ain't the Sinn Fein jersey for the most part.

Billy86

ProudDUB wrote: »

Doesn't matter.

The Lanagers can always claim Michael Collins, so those feckers always win any of those arguments on the sheer X factor vote alone.

Remind them that ROG was born in San Diego, not Cork, and they'll turn on ya like a hot snot left out in the sun....but whatever...they're a contrary lot ! :rolleyes:

Ah yeah, but you've got to get a laugh about them trotting out Michael Collins while sneering about violence against Republicans in Dublin. Where was Collins killed again? It's petty to the point of comical, but sure that's why it's amusing to us more than anything, at the same time!



As for media coverage, it's in large part down to success which is natural (not like we're being overrun with news on the hurling team now is it?) and partly down to the fact that media companies are there to make a profit. Dublin has a population of something like 1.35mn and interest is spiked in recent years with the success... anyone complaining about media companies targeting that audience might want to suggest the benefits of targeting audiences a fraction of that size would be beneficial to them.

TrueGael

Billy86 wrote: »

Ah yeah, but you've got to get a laugh about them trotting out Michael Collins while sneering about violence against Republicans in Dublin. Where was Collins killed again? It's petty to the point of comical, but sure that's why it's amusing to us more than anything, at the same time!



As for media coverage, it's in large part down to success which is natural (not like we're being overrun with news on the hurling team now is it?) and partly down to the fact that media companies are there to make a profit. Dublin has a population of something like 1.35mn and interest is spiked in recent years with the success... anyone complaining about media companies targeting that audience might want to suggest the benefits of targeting audiences a fraction of that size would be beneficial to them.

So finally an admittance that the Dublin Media exists and is looking to keep the enormous population happy by good news stories 24/7

Like I said before Kilkenny, Cork or anybody else never got even close to the attention, equality my arse

Powerhouse

TrueGael wrote: »

Like I said before Kilkenny, never got even close to the attention, equality my arse

Henry Shefflin got so much media attention that even after a year when he couldn't get a start with Kilkenny he held a press conference to announce his retirement. Those who wanted attention in Kilkenny got it. That Kilkenny team also has three pundits on the Sunday Game which must be unparalleled.

Stoner

Powerhouse wrote:

That Kilkenny team also has three pundits on the Sunday Game which must be unparalleled.

Well the Kerry footballers have three now.
The common factors in both cases
Both counties have the most AIs in their code
The guys they have on have a bucket load of medals, in Kerry's case it spans 2 teams with no overlap

Powerhouse

Stoner wrote: »

Well the Kerry footballers have three now.
The common factors in both cases
Both counties have the most AIs in their code
The guys they have on have a bucket load of medals, in Kerry's case it spans 2 teams with no overlap

The reference to All Irelands won is lost on me. Should that be an automatic criterion for a place on the Sunday Game panel? Ger Loughnane has none. Liam Sheedy has none. Cyril Farrell has none. Ciaran Whelan has none. None of them are from counties with the most All Irelands either.

It was commented by someone else that Kilkenny had nowhere near the media profile of the Dublin footballers despite their success. I simply pointed out that this is far from the case. And having three from the same team, all of whom finished just a couple of years ago, is unparalleled - while Kerry are very over-represented at least it is spread out over different generations. Would anyone seriously expect that in 3/4 years we will see three Dublin footballers on the Sunday Game?!

ProudDUB

Stoner wrote: »

Powerhouse wrote:

That Kilkenny team also has three pundits on the Sunday Game which must be unparalleled.

Well the Kerry footballers have three now.
The common factors in both cases
Both counties have the most AIs in their code
The guys they have on have a bucket load of medals, in Kerry's case it spans 2 teams with no overlap

Jesus H Christ. Don't get me started. The O'Se family alone have more media gigs stitched up, than all the former Dubs put together.

Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall at a Sunday Game production meeting, when some clueless, but well intentioned soul wondered aloud, if it wasn't taking the piss to always have one of their Kerry trio on the day time show & another one always on the evening highlights show. Ya know, in the interests of fairness and what not, should they not have a bit more variety in their panels? He'd be laughed out of the gaff.

Dublin media me arse !

Kerry have won just two of the last 10 All Ireland's. And one of them was nearly a decade ago. That record shouldn't give any of them an automatic spot on the TSG sofa, nor does it turn any of them into the Oracle of bleedin' Dingle Delphi, just because they are from Kerry.

Stoner

Powerhouse wrote:

I have no idea what point is being made in this post - the reference to All Irelands won is lost on me. Should that be an automatic criterion for a place on the Sunday Game panel? Ger Loughnane has none. Liam Sheedy has none. Cyril Farrell has none. Ciaran Whelan has none. None of them are from counties with the most All Irelands either.

How have you no idea when I gave you two factors, granted you might not agree but you should certainly have an idea.

I didn't say you had to have an all Ireland, but it would be a reason to have three on a panel, Brolly gets enough stick for only having one, you certainly won't have two Derry men on the books, there's an amount of good educated option allowed in the mix, but having 8 or 9 titles or 4 or 5, imo you'll get more respect than someone with none regardless of you agreeing with it or not.

People will want to hear what a successful person has to say as essentially the teams are trying to be successful, that's the goal. BTW winning one as a manager would give you a good basis too.

Stoner

BTW I complained about Spillane in the past myself.
We had him on the Sunday game, presenting at one stage on the highlights, in the main Sunday paper, and back in the day his good buddy George Hook had him on news talk when it was a "Dublin" station.

There's only so many times you can hear the same opinion.

But what I would give him is that they are his opinions, some of the guest guys they bring on just rehash the same tired information.
But Spillane has changed up his game a bit, O'Rourke doesn't seem bothered these days, another moany rant in the papers today again about the potential distruction of the game.

Regardless T O'S is fair imo. He was a winner a good loser and is his own man. I find his insight worth tuning in for.

I really can't see Cooper sticking at it but he might, I don't think it suits him anyway.

Apart from Pete McGrath I haven't seen another football guest on the Sunday game recently that I thought would be very good.

I can't see Ciaran Whelan or Dessie Dolan have the impact that someone like TOS has, next level is Carr, Doyle etc.

I don't know maybe there's a bunch of fantastic characters out there that I'm missing.

MayoAreMagic

Billy Mays wrote: »

I'd take no notice. Another fella whose vast majority of posts are slating Dublin for one thing or another.

I reckon Bernard must have scored his missus in Coppers one night.

Which would also explain why every second dub you meet has a deep personal dislike for Aidan O'Shea...;)

Actually on that topic, I seen an article written on the abuse of Cyrus Christie, which made a comparison to the several years abuse a high profile gaa player has faced; doesn't take a genius to work out it is O'Shea being talked about. It is a fair point, apparently it is ok to abuse a guy about everything you can think of for years on end, as long you don't mention his race... Quite hypocritical.

bruschi

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Which would also explain why every second dub you meet has a deep personal dislike for Aidan O'Shea...;)

Actually on that topic, I seen an article written on the abuse of Cyrus Christie, which made a comparison to the several years abuse a high profile gaa player has faced; doesn't take a genius to work out it is O'Shea being talked about. It is a fair point, apparently it is ok to abuse a guy about everything you can think of for years on end, as long you don't mention his race... Quite hypocritical.

has anything you ever posted not ever had a comparison or some sort of link to something to do with Mayo?

Would you mind sharing that Cyrus Christie article where its clear they also compared Aidan O Sheas "abuse" to what Christie suffered.

castletownman

Maybe these ex-Kilkenny and Kerry players in the media are there not just because of their success on the field, but also because they may have insights into the mindset of Cody and Micko (never give away state secrets but it's still interesting when they refer to what their managers would have done) . In fairness, I would pay more heed to someone with a few AI medals in their back pocket than some of their contemporaries.

Ciaran Whelan I understand as he bridges the gap between the Old World (95) and New World (Gavin's era), but what in the name of all that is holy is Senan Connell doing being one of the main Sky pundits? A bit-part player in a team of perpetual under-performers with the look of a carpet salesman leaching on Rachel Wyse on each broadcast.

Look at his colleagues on Sky. JJ Delaney. One of the finest ever defenders in the history of the game. Ollie Canning. One of the best corner-backs in the last 25 years and multiple AI club winner. Jamesie O'Connor. One of the most consistent forwards of the 90s and two-time AI winner. Peter Canavan. Possibly the greatest forward to ever play the game. Jim McGuinness. Revolutionary manager and genius. James Horan. Helped bring Mayo to the top 3 in the country. Success where ever he has went. Seems to me that Connell is the token wise-cracking Dub in comparison.

MayoAreMagic

bruschi wrote: »

has anything you ever posted not ever had a comparison or some sort of link to something to do with Mayo?

Would you mind sharing that Cyrus Christie article where its clear they also compared Aidan O Sheas "abuse" to what Christie suffered.

I take issue when people post biased sh*te, a lot of that tends to be aimed at Mayo. However I have commented on various other things. Off the top of my head, there was a guy trying to argue that St Vincents loss wasn't a shock win as Rathnew were a top side, and also that big wins don't happen at club provincial level. The comfortable win for Moorefield and the hiding dished out by An Gaeltacht at the weekend would suggest otherwise.
Also, why not address the point instead of who is saying it? If you are right your counter argument should speak for itself.


https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/eamonn-sweeney-empty-vessels-making-toxic-noises-36353387.html

He makes reference to the, frankly disgraceful, Lee Keegan stuff directly, references Dublin-Mayo and then states "Abuse does not have to be racist to be hurtful. I'm aware of another GAA star who has been the subject of almost non-stop personal abuse for several years now. Even though he had an outstanding year in 2017, it's continued."

blanch152

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

I take issue when people post biased sh*te, a lot of that tends to be aimed at Mayo. However I have commented on various other things. Off the top of my head, there was a guy trying to argue that St Vincents loss wasn't a shock win as Rathnew were a top side, and also that big wins don't happen at club provincial level. The comfortable win for Moorefield and the hiding dished out by An Gaeltacht at the weekend would suggest otherwise.
Also, why not address the point instead of who is saying it? If you are right your counter argument should speak for itself.


https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/eamonn-sweeney-empty-vessels-making-toxic-noises-36353387.html

He makes reference to the, frankly disgraceful, Lee Keegan stuff directly, references Dublin-Mayo and then states "Abuse does not have to be racist to be hurtful. I'm aware of another GAA star who has been the subject of almost non-stop personal abuse for several years now. Even though he had an outstanding year in 2017, it's continued."

Well, that clearly isn't a reference to Aidan O'Shea, as the GAA star "had an outstanding year in 2017".

MayoAreMagic

blanch152 wrote: »

Well, that clearly isn't a reference to Aidan O'Shea, as the GAA star "had an outstanding year in 2017".

A bit predictable in fairness

Was that you sending him the texts blanch?
Took the number out of the mots phone no doubt.
That showed him

Billy86

TrueGael wrote: »

So finally an admittance that the Dublin Media exists and is looking to keep the enormous population happy by good news stories 24/7

Like I said before Kilkenny, Cork or anybody else never got even close to the attention, equality my arse

Actually an 'admittance' that private, for-profit companies work to maximise profits. Dublin weren't getting near this coverage before winning things (the most covered players of the last 15 years have been DJ Carey, Shefflin and Gooch by the way - all wildly successful, yet none of them Dubs) which is why the hurling team barely get much mention at all.

Going by your posts, 1977-2011 (bar '83 and '95) must have some incredibly glorious years in your life, but they're over.

bruschi

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

I take issue when people post biased sh*te, a lot of that tends to be aimed at Mayo. However I have commented on various other things. Off the top of my head, there was a guy trying to argue that St Vincents loss wasn't a shock win as Rathnew were a top side, and also that big wins don't happen at club provincial level. The comfortable win for Moorefield and the hiding dished out by An Gaeltacht at the weekend would suggest otherwise.
Also, why not address the point instead of who is saying it? If you are right your counter argument should speak for itself.


https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/eamonn-sweeney-empty-vessels-making-toxic-noises-36353387.html

He makes reference to the, frankly disgraceful, Lee Keegan stuff directly, references Dublin-Mayo and then states "Abuse does not have to be racist to be hurtful. I'm aware of another GAA star who has been the subject of almost non-stop personal abuse for several years now. Even though he had an outstanding year in 2017, it's continued."

Address what point? that Dublin lads are jealous of O Shea because he shifted their women? What needs to be addressed there?

thanks for the link. no where does that sound like it is definitely O Shea. It could be anyone, or it could be purely made up.

however, I was most intrigued with this piece in the article.

And every Dublin-Mayo clash in recent years has led to the type of online exchanges which are, as SeFaol one described a particularly stupid Seanad debate, "like a long, slow trawl through a sewage bed".

that I think is very true.

Bonniedog

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

I take issue when people post biased sh*te, a lot of that tends to be aimed at Mayo. However I have commented on various other things. Off the top of my head, there was a guy trying to argue that St Vincents loss wasn't a shock win as Rathnew were a top side, and also that big wins don't happen at club provincial level. The comfortable win for Moorefield and the hiding dished out by An Gaeltacht at the weekend would suggest otherwise.
Also, why not address the point instead of who is saying it? If you are right your counter argument should speak for itself.


https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/eamonn-sweeney-empty-vessels-making-toxic-noises-36353387.html

He makes reference to the, frankly disgraceful, Lee Keegan stuff directly, references Dublin-Mayo and then states "Abuse does not have to be racist to be hurtful. I'm aware of another GAA star who has been the subject of almost non-stop personal abuse for several years now. Even though he had an outstanding year in 2017, it's continued."

The only place I saw any reference to Lee Keegan - and I didn't know who they were referring to- was on the Mayo forum here.

It was rightly objected to by most contributors and quickly taken down.

All top players get abuse from idiots. A chap I played with is good friend of DC and he told me he is constantly being provoked, and has been attacked on a few occasions. That's not to excuse his own actions by the way.

Well known boxers and former boxers also get this sort of drunken macho nonsense.

MayoAreMagic

bruschi wrote: »

Address what point? that Dublin lads are jealous of O Shea because he shifted their women? What needs to be addressed there?

No the point about the abuse some gaa players take, and how that is deemed ok, yet another type of abuse is seen as such a disgrace (which it is). If I had to pick between the abuse O'Shea gets and the abuse Christie got, Id take Christie's all day long

bruschi wrote: »

thanks for the link. no where does that sound like it is definitely O Shea. It could be anyone, or it could be purely made up.

Well how many high profile inter county players can you name, that has taken that level of prolonged abuse and also had an season last year? Can you name any more?

bruschi wrote: »

however, I was most intrigued with this piece in the article.

And every Dublin-Mayo clash in recent years has led to the type of online exchanges which are, as SeFaol one described a particularly stupid Seanad debate, "like a long, slow trawl through a sewage bed".

that I think is very true.

So do I.

bruschi

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

No the point about the abuse some gaa players take, and how that is deemed ok, yet another type of abuse is seen as such a disgrace (which it is). If I had to pick between the abuse O'Shea gets and the abuse Christie got, Id take Christie's all day long

ah here, seriously. how is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you reckon what O Shea goes through is worse than being abused solely on the colour of your skin. thats just ridiculous. This thread is starting to become the ridiculous GAA opinion and not unpopular.

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Well how many high profile inter county players can you name, that has taken that level of prolonged abuse and also had an season last year? Can you name any more?

I dont know what abuse O Shea has got. I dont see anything more than the norm for high profile GAA players. I say one Bernard Flynn article about autographs and posing that I would very much disagree with. but it wasnt abusive, it was a nothing comment piece. you seem to have a personal insight to worse stuff. I see plenty of players get crap hurled at them the whole time, and I dare say Diarmuid Connolly gets an awful lot more than what O shea gets.

And who has said any of this is ok? or why is this comparable to racism?

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

So do I.

well everyone always thinks their own smells of roses, so no surprise there.

MayoAreMagic

bruschi wrote: »

ah here, seriously. how is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you reckon what O Shea goes through is worse than being abused solely on the colour of your skin. thats just ridiculous. This thread is starting to become the ridiculous GAA opinion and not unpopular.

No, I said the abuse Christie faced in this particular instance, i.e. a string of twitter comments from a few random apes after a match, vs what oshea is getting, years of constant abuse from hundreds of sources, with people even getting hold of his phone number. Fair enough not racial abuse, but seriously unmanageable all the same. That isnt to belittle what christie experienced at all, it is more to highlight how bad o'shea's abuse is. Consider for a second if you were offered both options, which one would you take? Personally I would say call me a white whatever you like after a game, over the other option every day of the week.

bruschi wrote: »

I dont know what abuse O Shea has got. I dont see anything more than the norm for high profile GAA players. I say one Bernard Flynn article about autographs and posing that I would very much disagree with. but it wasnt abusive, it was a nothing comment piece. you seem to have a personal insight to worse stuff. I see plenty of players get crap hurled at them the whole time, and I dare say Diarmuid Connolly gets an awful lot more than what O shea gets.

And who has said any of this is ok? or why is this comparable to racism?

Well the reference is to years of online abuse and guys even sending abuse to his phone. This was actually described in the article, so you do know what abuse he has faced, although I'm sure there is probably more than that. What has an article by Bernard Flynn got to do with that btw?
Re Connolly, he does get abuse, but Id say he doesn't get more than O'Shea actually. A quick look at those awful facebook fan pages will show you that far more is aimed at oshea than connolly. In fact Id say there aren't many people in the country, who aren't criminals etc, that get more abuse than o'shea does. It is something worth considering on a personal level, nobody should have to face into that sort of thing, particularly for not really doing anything wrong at any stage. It is pretty shameful for us as gaa fans.

bruschi wrote: »

well everyone always thinks their own smells of roses, so no surprise there.

True. Personally I try to stick to the facts and what is relevant to the football when discussing players/teams. Many don't on the forum, I agree. Id have expected people playing the man all the time to be prevented from doing so on threads to be honest with you. At present you cant comment on anything without the first response being something about your county, with the original point being lost 2-3 posts later (which is generally their goal in the first place). When that is the case, I'm as well to just start out talking about mayo and be done with it, amn't I?

DoctaDee

MOD

OK lads this thread has lost all direction with regard to the thread title and the initial constructive contributions. It's become a monotonous regularity now where threads are hijacked to vent a Dublin/Mayo snark.

So rather than lock the thread, resulting in all posters being penalised, I've decided to issue a last warning to those involved to cut out the derisory comments or you will be carded and banned from posting in the thread. Ta

ProudDUB

Still OK to abuse Mordor to our wee blue & navy hearts content then so, yeah?

Lovely Jubbly !

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

After reading some of the drivel posted here, I'm beginning to see what so many people hate us Mayo fans.

Powerhouse

Stoner wrote: »

How have you no idea when I gave you two factors, granted you might not agree but you should certainly have an idea.

I didn't say you had to have an all Ireland, but it would be a reason to have three on a panel, Brolly gets enough stick for only having one, you certainly won't have two Derry men on the books, there's an amount of good educated option allowed in the mix, but having 8 or 9 titles or 4 or 5, imo you'll get more respect than someone with none regardless of you agreeing with it or not.

People will want to hear what a successful person has to say as essentially the teams are trying to be successful, that's the goal. BTW winning one as a manager would give you a good basis too.

I have no idea as it bears no relation to the point I was making which was that it is simply untrue to say that Kilkenny do not feature hugely in media.

To deal briefly with the point you do make, I see no relationship between medals won and having something meaningful to say and being able to say it articulately. Half the time on the Sunday Game they are just parroting each other about what the other person "alluded to" earlier. But that's just a view. But the contents of a pundits back pocket never impressed me. I know several All Ireland medal winners who are the dullest inarticulate company.

Powerhouse

castletownman wrote: »

Maybe these ex-Kilkenny and Kerry players in the media are there not just because of their success on the field, but also because they may have insights into the mindset of Cody and Micko (never give away state secrets but it's still interesting when they refer to what their managers would have done) . In fairness, I would pay more heed to someone with a few AI medals in their back pocket than some of their contemporaries.

Judging by the comments of Jackie Tyrrell in the media, and the tactical poverty evident since the Kilkenny team weakened and needed to develop a compensatory tactical strategy I'd have a feeling that Cody's mindset was never more complex than "h'wan ta fcuk".

And the mindset of "Micko".................this is the guy who ceased to be Kerry manager nearly 30 years ago. Is his mindset that important to the average viewer these days? What do we want to find out? His attitude to short kickouts? Blanket defence? Strength and conditioning? Whatever Pat Spillane has to offer it is not a window into the mindset of "Micko" who is a man of other days.

TrueGael

WOW........I'm speechless I'm just after flicking on RTE 1 and I see Ladies Football and wondered was it a program on the general state and growth of the sport but no it very quickly became apparent that it was totally about Dublin yet again from our 'national' broadcaster

Now I am well used to the Mens getting worship from the 'national' broadcaster (they had a documentary on winning a Leinster :rolleyes::rolleyes: about 10 years ago) but this is a new one.... I guess if you are going to give preferential treatment to the Men you have to for the Women as well............

Looks really bad when the Cork Ladies who won 11 in 12 years and 6 in a row never got any such adulation (including beating Dublin last 3 finals) How must they feel tonight watching this, mixture of anger and sadness I'd say............

The only team outside the Blue Juggernaut who has ever had a documentary from the 'national' broadcaster was Donegal and Jim who the Dublin Media had a strange fascination for......

And yet I am criticised for even saying that the 'Dublin Media' even exists and gives preferential treatment to them despite the evidence mounting up............

castletownman

Powerhouse wrote: »

Judging by the comments of Jackie Tyrrell in the media, and the tactical poverty evident since the Kilkenny team weakened and needed to develop a compensatory tactical strategy I'd have a feeling that Cody's mindset was never more complex than "h'wan ta fcuk".

And the mindset of "Micko".................this is the guy who ceased to be Kerry manager nearly 30 years ago. Is his mindset that important to the average viewer these days? What do we want to find out? His attitude to short kickouts? Blanket defence? Strength and conditioning? Whatever Pat Spillane has to offer it is not a window into the mindset of "Micko" who is a man of other days.

Okay I take your point re Cody and Micko.

But I noticed you ignored my point on Connell getting a media gig. Which suggests you agree with me

Bonniedog

TrueGael wrote: »

WOW........I'm speechless I'm just after flicking on RTE 1 and I see Ladies Football and wondered was it a program on the general state and growth of the sport but no it very quickly became apparent that it was totally about Dublin yet again from our 'national' broadcaster

Now I am well used to the Mens getting worship from the 'national' broadcaster (they had a documentary on winning a Leinster :rolleyes::rolleyes: about 10 years ago) but this is a new one.... I guess if you are going to give preferential treatment to the Men you have to for the Women as well............

Looks really bad when the Cork Ladies who won 11 in 12 years and 6 in a row never got any such adulation (including beating Dublin last 3 finals) How must they feel tonight watching this, mixture of anger and sadness I'd say............

The only team outside the Blue Juggernaut who has ever had a documentary from the 'national' broadcaster was Donegal and Jim who the Dublin Media had a strange fascination for......

And yet I am criticised for even saying that the 'Dublin Media' even exists and gives preferential treatment to them despite the evidence mounting up............

Your hatred of Dublin is bordering on the pathological son


By special request for True Gael: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4asSbKhqAGM

Powerhouse

castletownman wrote: »

Okay I take your point re Cody and Micko.

But I noticed you ignored my point on Connell getting a media gig. Which suggests you agree with me

To tell you the truth regarding Connell, I have never watched a GAA match on Sky yet so cannot comment either to agree or disagree! I have seen him on TV3 occasionally in the past and yeah thought he was only middling but I would not be convinced that's a function of his lack of All Ireland medals. I think punditry is very much a personality driven thing.

Powerhouse

TrueGael wrote: »

Now I am well used to the Mens getting worship from the 'national' broadcaster (they had a documentary on winning a Leinster :rolleyes::rolleyes: about 10 years ago) but this is a new one.... ..

The only team outside the Blue Juggernaut who has ever had a documentary from the 'national' broadcaster was Donegal and Jim who the Dublin Media had a strange fascination for......
...

You have a short or maybe selective memory if you don't recall a documentary on the Westmeath footballers winning Leinster. Or one on Galway's footballers winning the Sam Maguire.

Presuming that these sort of documentaries are envisaged by independent production companies and the pitched at RTÉ it might be rational to assume simply that maybe no such company emerged in Cork to do something similar for their ladies? As explanations go it's a bit anodyne but it might be more credible than the average conspiracy theory.

nice_guy80

Cork people don't recognise foreign media, like those from Dublin

bucketybuck

castletownman wrote: »

Okay I take your point re Cody and Micko.

But I noticed you ignored my point on Connell getting a media gig. Which suggests you agree with me

Connell is on Sky because he was a talking head with TG4 or TV3 or one of those stations for years, he would have done plenty of the smaller games and to a large extent you could say that he served his time in the media game. I don't know how he got his start years ago but it doesn't seem all that untoward, an ex-intercounty player, reasonably photogenic, comfortable in front of the camera, it doesn't seem all that strange that one of the smaller stations gave him a go. Maybe he speaks Irish too?

But since he was there for years doing those club and league games is it really surprising that Sky picked him up? They had a new show just starting, they will have wanted reliable presenters to start with rather than taking chances on new guys who had never done a match before.

I see no problem with Connell being on Sky, simply because to me it looks as if he went about things the right way, he started at the bottom and worked his way up rather than being handed the big job based on who he was.

Slattsy

Someone post a tumbleweed gif

Sheep breeder

TrueGael wrote: »

WOW........I'm speechless I'm just after flicking on RTE 1 and I see Ladies Football and wondered was it a program on the general state and growth of the sport but no it very quickly became apparent that it was totally about Dublin yet again from our 'national' broadcaster

Now I am well used to the Mens getting worship from the 'national' broadcaster (they had a documentary on winning a Leinster :rolleyes::rolleyes: about 10 years ago) but this is a new one.... I guess if you are going to give preferential treatment to the Men you have to for the Women as well............

Looks really bad when the Cork Ladies who won 11 in 12 years and 6 in a row never got any such adulation (including beating Dublin last 3 finals) How must they feel tonight watching this, mixture of anger and sadness I'd say............

The only team outside the Blue Juggernaut who has ever had a documentary from the 'national' broadcaster was Donegal and Jim who the Dublin Media had a strange fascination for......

And yet I am criticised for even saying that the 'Dublin Media' even exists and gives preferential treatment to them despite the evidence mounting up............

As somebody who has two young girls starting to play ladies football it is great to see ladies football getting promoted on tv and it is the coming sport in Ireland and Great to show behind the team the effort put in, anybody watch the final and the Great crowd that was in Croke Park.

paul0103

TrueGael wrote: »

WOW........I'm speechless I'm just after flicking on RTE 1 and I see Ladies Football and wondered was it a program on the general state and growth of the sport but no it very quickly became apparent that it was totally about Dublin yet again from our 'national' broadcaster

Now I am well used to the Mens getting worship from the 'national' broadcaster (they had a documentary on winning a Leinster :rolleyes::rolleyes: about 10 years ago) but this is a new one.... I guess if you are going to give preferential treatment to the Men you have to for the Women as well............

Looks really bad when the Cork Ladies who won 11 in 12 years and 6 in a row never got any such adulation (including beating Dublin last 3 finals) How must they feel tonight watching this, mixture of anger and sadness I'd say............

The only team outside the Blue Juggernaut who has ever had a documentary from the 'national' broadcaster was Donegal and Jim who the Dublin Media had a strange fascination for......

And yet I am criticised for even saying that the 'Dublin Media' even exists and gives preferential treatment to them despite the evidence mounting up............

https://twitter.com/ElaineBucko/status/935282055340019712

salmocab

paul0103 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ElaineBucko/status/935282055340019712

So its agreed someone needs to make an apology around here.

Bonniedog

Not the first time he has been proven to be wrong. He just ignores it and comes up with some other sad thing.

blanch152

salmocab wrote: »

So its agreed someone needs to make an apology around here.

Not a chance that will happen.

John_Rambo

This will be most unpopular.

When Dublin wins an all Ireland final the schools and workplaces of the county are open the next day. Celebrations are dignified and modest. Everyone goes to work the next morning and puts their shoulder to the wheel mindful that the country is reliant on the city.

Dabonthemhaters.

The_Kew_Tour

Croke Park is a advantage to the Dubs and with some saying they do not want see non Club members at County games that free up about 90% of Hill 16 so I'm in favour

DoctaDee

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Croke Park is a advantage to the Dubs and with some saying they do not want see non Club members at County games that free up about 90% of Hill 16 so I'm in favour

We'll still have a strict admission policy tho, those 3 Cork football supporters better be signed up members

Stoner

DoctaDee wrote:

We'll still have a strict admission policy tho, those 3 Cork football supporters better be signed up members

They were Man U tops Doc.

ProudDUB

DoctaDee wrote: »

We'll still have a strict admission policy tho, those 3 Cork football supporters better be signed up members

Wow. Is there that many of them?

The_Kew_Tour

ProudDUB wrote: »

Wow. Is there that many of them?

be about same as Dublin Hurling support to be fair.

Amprodude

Dr Crokes are potential chokers when met with opposition that can match them in club football. With all their quality they have, they have won very little outside of Munster.

Dublin team of the 2010s are overrated even with 4 handy All Ireland's. Donegal in 2014 proved this.

Kerry extremely lucky to win All Ireland in 2014. Same can be said for Cork in 2010.

Mayo are never going to win Sam. Better off packing it in. Sorry guys but that's the way it is.

Waterford are scared to win All Ireland. The occasion gets to them.

Ulster football is the hardest province to win.

zetecescort

Amprodude wrote: »

Dr Crokes are potential chokers when met with opposition that can match them in club football. With all their quality they have, they have won very little outside of Munster.

Dublin team of the 2010s are overrated even with 4 handy All Ireland's. Donegal in 2014 proved this.

Kerry extremely lucky to win All Ireland in 2014. Same can be said for Cork in 2010.

Mayo are never going to win Sam. Better off packing it in. Sorry guys but that's the way it is.

Waterford are scared to win All Ireland. The occasion gets to them.

Ulster football is the hardest province to win.

With so many lucky and over rated winners just who do you think have been the best team the last ten years?

Ulster football may be the toughest but the games are crap to watch as a neutral.