What is something everyone knows about life but no one wants admit?

valoren

Time does not heal all wounds. When the people we truly love die, you never get over the grief at their loss.

cantdecide

Ipso wrote: »

I like the Irish blue skin, where it's so pale you can see the veins underneath.

Pale redheads - take me now, lord!!

mariaalice

RayM wrote: »

Nobody in Ireland (apart from Protestants, the privately educated and some people from Limerick) likes or understands rugby. They just pretend to because the Irish rugby team is successful right now and the football team isn't.

What about Welsh people who have moved here.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Ipso wrote: »

I like the Irish blue skin, where it's so pale you can see the veins underneath.

Eww no way.

Looks like a decomposing corpse.

Utterly vomit inducing.

nigel_wilson

valoren wrote: »

Time does not heal all wounds. When the people we truly love die, you never get over the grief at their loss.

I disagree...this is true if you look at it from the point of view that life is amazing, good, and joyous.


Realizing that life is mostly unfair, cruel, harsh, and full of misery for a lot not just now but in human history has never made me feel grief for the death of my aunt who died of cancer, cousin who died by suicide, and aging mother who's about to die. My personal opinion...

I've never understood this; if we generally agree that life is ****, why would we bad when someone passes away? Sure we'll miss then, but they would be in a better place IMO.


Hamlet: "To die to sleep, to sleep perchance to dream.

Bitches Be Trypsin

Cancer is essentially a good thing. Without it, overpopulation would be even worse.

blade1

Bitches Be Trypsin wrote: »

Cancer is essentially a good thing. Without it, overpopulation would be even worse.

You can tell that to a family member when you are looking them in the face as they are dying.
Nothing good about it at all.

Martina1991

Bitches Be Trypsin wrote:

Cancer is essentially a good thing. Without it, overpopulation would be even worse.

On this topic I would say that many people living with and being diagnosed with cancer are the elderly.

We all have to die from something. 60 years ago people were dying from preventable diseases like TB and meningitis.

As we get older our chances of getting cancer increases. My grandmother passed away from cancer. She was 85. A good age some people say but a cancer statistic none the less.

MadYaker

RayM wrote: »

Nobody in Ireland (apart from Protestants, the privately educated and some people from Limerick) likes or understands rugby. They just pretend to because the Irish rugby team is successful right now and the football team isn't.

There's definitely a lot of bandwagoners, it's great craic supporting a team who are world beaters. But there is also fúckloads of people who go out and support their provinces for every game. The people who spend a decent amount of cash flying all over europe and all the people who go to the sportsground in Galway in the pissing rain week in week out are probably genuine.

Ipso

mariaalice wrote: »

What about Welsh people who have moved here.

They're still Welsh, unfortunately for them.

Irish Guitarist

People need something to complain about. It doesn't even matter what it is they're complaining about as long as they have a good old whinge. There's no other explanation for people worrying about what some idiot on Twitter says. No one really gives a shite about Katie Hopkins and it really isn't newsworthy that a thug that beats people up for a living called another thug a faggot. No one really gives a shit about any of this. They seek out things or people to be angry about. It's like the modern equivalent of public executions.

wawaman

Fox Hound wrote: »

everybody lies

Everybody hurts.......sometimes

Bitches Be Trypsin

blade1 wrote: »

You can tell that to a family member when you are looking them in the face as they are dying.
Nothing good about it at all.

I meant good in the sense that it kills around 8 million a year globally, say 80 million a decade, it's a lot of strain taken from an already overpopulated planet.

(just an opinion and not meant to offend- if it helps, the BRCA gene is in my family!)

Hannibal_Smith

blade1 wrote: »

You can tell that to a family member when you are looking them in the face as they are dying.
Nothing good about it at all.

Couldn't you say that about all types of death?

Wurly

All of the issues that humans have can be traced back to an emotional cause. But as we live in an emotional dark age, we overlook this every time.

Every single person has their own reality where they are correct and justified and we do what we can to survive. But make no mistake, we are all emotionally traumatised one way or another and we create our lives from our beliefs and perceptions of ourselves.

Those perceptions are created by the behaviour modelled by our caregivers growing up. We do not have a sense of self when we are little so we form our sense of self from how our caregivers reacted to our needs.

If they treated us as a nuisance, that's how we'll feel as adults. And we'll create painful lives for ourselves because we have been taught that our needs are wrong and not okay. That leads to painful decisions and therefore painful lives.

We are terribly unkind to each other and overlook emotional needs and well being all the time. The more trauma/emotional invalidation you've experienced the more you'll act out and be considered an asshole by society for your actions. And rather than be helped, you'll be scorned. Making you more of an 'asshole'.

We are all truly trying our best with the cards we have been dealt. Really. And deep, deep down - all any of us are looking for is to be loved for who we are. No exceptions.

Prune Tracy

Wurly wrote: »

All of the issues that humans have can be traced back to an emotional cause. But as we live in an emotional dark age, we overlook this every time.

Every single person has their own reality where they are correct and justified and we do what we can to survive. But make no mistake, we are all emotionally traumatised one way or another and we create our lives from our beliefs and perceptions of ourselves.

Those perceptions are created by the behaviour modelled by our caregivers growing up. We do not have a sense of self when we are little so we form our sense of self from how our caregivers reacted to our needs.

If they treated us as a nuisance, that's how we'll feel as adults. And we'll create painful lives for ourselves because we have been taught that our needs are wrong and not okay. That leads to painful decisions and therefore painful lives.

We are terribly unkind to each other and overlook emotional needs and well being all the time. The more trauma/emotional invalidation you've experienced the more you'll act out and be considered an asshole by society for your actions. And rather than be helped, you'll be scorned. Making you more of an 'asshole'.

We are all truly trying our best with the cards we have been dealt. Really.

Isn't that just your perspective shaped by your experiences though rather than applicable to people in general?

"We are all emotionally traumatised one way or another" and "We are terrible unkind to each other" - we are?

I agree that what you say does apply to numerous people but what about those who had a positive start in life and who were not told they were a nuisance?

Colser

There isn't "Someone for everyone".

Prune Tracy

Prune Tracy wrote: »

Isn't that just your perspective shaped by your experiences though rather than applicable to people in general?

"We are all emotionally traumatised one way or another" and "We are terrible unkind to each other" - we are?

To say we are all emotionally traumatised one way or another I don't believe. No individual is without their struggles but some carry pain in a damaging way and others don't. One person's trauma is another person's growth.

Wurly

Prune Tracy wrote: »

Isn't that just your perspective shaped by your experiences though rather than applicable to people in general?

Possibly. It could be argued though that this is your personal perspective of my perspective, if you get me... A rabbit hole of sorts.

As I say though, we all have our own individual perspective which lives in our collective one. So I can only speak from mine and you from yours.

"We are all emotionally traumatised one way or another" and "We are terrible unkind to each other" - we are?

I think so, yeah.

We agree with a punishment style society, by and large. Which infers that some people are good and some people are bad.
I don't believe so. Actions are good and actions are bad. People? Just experiencing varying degrees of pain. Pain is what 's behind behaviours that are deemed bad.

When do we ever get educated on how to have successful relationships? Human behaviour? Emotional intelligence and well being? Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this information sparse in the mainstream? It's no wonder that we all don't know how to overcome the many symptoms that pain shows up as in our lives.

It's all tit for tat. Bad things for bad people. With F all effort to understand and therefore eradicate. We disagree with helping people cos no one helped us. Just a cycle of pain again.

So yeah, I believe that we treat each other like ****.

Wurly

Deleted User wrote: »

To say we are all emotionally traumatised one way or another I don't believe. No individual is without their struggles but some carry pain in a damaging way and others don't. One person's trauma is another person's growth.

I completely agree. But that's the point. Some know how to deal with trauma and others don't. I experienced many years of pain before I learned how to channel my pain into growth. But I didn't always know how to do this. Genuinely. It took many lost friends and painful relationships to learn. I was at all times doing my best though. From my own limited perspective. No matter how it looked to other people. And I believe this to be universal in humans.

Wurly

Wurly wrote: »

We agree with a punishment style society, by and large. Which infers that some people are good and some people are bad.
I don't believe so. Actions are good and actions are bad. People? Just experiencing varying degrees of pain. Pain is what 's behind behaviours that are deemed bad.

Yes pain is often behind an awful lot of bad behaviour but what about child murderers and rapists? The Graham Dwyer's of this world?

Wurly

Prune Tracy wrote: »

I agree that what you say does apply to numerous people but what about those who had a positive start in life and who were not told they were a nuisance?

Honestly? This one puzzles me.

My mother is a very challenging woman who has caused me a lot of damage over the years.

But she will swear blind that her childhood was roses. And it checks out.

So what gives? She says my relationship with my dad damaged her..... But what made her want that if her childhood was so great?

I honestly believe that we are so emotionally un-atuned (sp?) to our own needs at the best of times that we simply don't realise when are trampling all over our own truth and allowing others to do it to us too....

Let's face it - who here experienced tender emotional sensitivity here? It most certainly was not the forefront of most households. It just wasn't a 'thing'. So we still don't put an importance on it as it was never presented as a choice for us, even. It doesn't mean it's not, though. Just look at the amount of 'acting out' in society. We all just want to be loved. In a way that most of us have never experienced.

Prune Tracy

Wurly wrote: »

Possibly. It could be argued though that this is your personal perspective of my perspective, if you get me... A rabbit hole of sorts.

As I say though, we all have our own individual perspective which lives in our collective one. So I can only speak from mine and you from yours.

But that's what I'm saying - that someone ascribing how they see the world from their individual perspective to everyone else is problematic because it can't always be correct. Luckily for me I am not emotionally traumatised, which shapes my view of the world/people as mostly positive. Others aren't so lucky and their reality is their reality but they don't speak for those with a different reality, nor do I speak for them.

I don't agree with collectivism, I actually think it can be quite dangerous. I prefer to consider the individual. I know I certainly don't treat people like **** and I doubt you do either.

I am emotionally traumatised but for me it has lead to huge personal growth and awareness. The way I see it is that we all have our own way of being in this world which is informed by early relational dynamics, experiences, just the business of living really and each way is different.

gctest50

Your lover has said the same things to someone else

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gctest50

In 200 years nobody will remember your name

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branie2

A billion years time even

kerryjack

Convicted child abuses and rapeseed should be chemically castrated

professore

Deleted User wrote: »

Wurly wrote: »

We agree with a punishment style society, by and large. Which infers that some people are good and some people are bad.
I don't believe so. Actions are good and actions are bad. People? Just experiencing varying degrees of pain. Pain is what 's behind behaviours that are deemed bad.

Yes pain is often behind an awful lot of bad behaviour but what about child murderers and rapists? The Graham Dwyer's of this world?

There are genuinely people who enjoy being cruel to others, especially those weaker than them. Any kid knows this.

professore

kerryjack wrote: »

Convicted child abuses and rapeseed should be chemically castrated

Rapeseed??? And they should be properly castrated, like cattle.

Wanderer78

kerryjack wrote:

Convicted child abuses and rapeseed should be chemically castrated

professore wrote:

Rapeseed??? And they should be properly castrated, like cattle.

Would this solve the issue?

professore

Prune Tracy wrote: »

Wurly wrote: »

Possibly. It could be argued though that this is your personal perspective of my perspective, if you get me... A rabbit hole of sorts.

As I say though, we all have our own individual perspective which lives in our collective one. So I can only speak from mine and you from yours.

But that's what I'm saying - that someone ascribing how they see the world from their individual perspective to everyone else is problematic because it can't always be correct. Luckily for me I am not emotionally traumatised, which shapes my view of the world/people as mostly positive. Others aren't so lucky and their reality is their reality but they don't speak for those with a different reality, nor do I speak for them.

I don't agree with collectivism, I actually think it can be quite dangerous. I prefer to consider the individual. I know I certainly don't treat people like **** and I doubt you do either.

Collectivism is probably the most powerful force for evil in our world. Always leads to in and out groups who are demonised. Look at Hilary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" comment - calling nearly half the US electorate deplorable. And she is supposed to be from the love everything denocrats. Once she said that I could never support her.

kerryjack

professore wrote: »

Rapeseed??? And they should be properly castrated, like cattle.

Yes and people that can't spell like myself should be made go back to school for 5 years:-) :-) :-)

zig

That daily, throughout the day we are each individually contributing to horrendous pollution on the planet, things like rubbish islands floating in the ocean and climate change are a direct result of what we are each doing ourselves, not someone else.

That when we buy something for very cheap , like a toy or utensil or whatever, it was made in a country where working conditions are so bad they wouldn’t be allowed here.

Akrasia

professore wrote: »

Collectivism is probably the most powerful force for evil in our world. Always leads to in and out groups who are demonised. Look at Hilary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" comment - calling nearly half the US electorate deplorable. And she is supposed to be from the love everything denocrats. Once she said that I could never support her.

Collectivism, like a hunter gatherer tribe that shares food and looks after their young and their sick?

Yeah, down with that sort of thing.

Akrasia

That people who complain that their iphone 6 is slow and they 'need an upgrade' are lacking an enormous amount of perspective.

Akrasia

professore wrote: »

There are genuinely people who enjoy being cruel to others, especially those weaker than them. Any kid knows this.

Every kid enjoys being cruel to others at some point. Most of the time, their parent or guardian will teach them that this is not ok or they will figure it out themselves.

Sometimes, there is a physiological reason why some kids don't learn, most of the time, it's because they have not been nurtured in a caring responsible environment.

Solomon Pleasant

The biggest obstacle for most people isn’t ability, lack of opportunity, lack of time or any other variable - it’s fear.

The vast majority of us are completely controlled by our inhibitions and most never learn how to move past them.

For this reason, most people just canter through a very average life without ever achieving anything they thought they could or anything they wanted to.

blade1

Akrasia wrote: »

That people who complain that their iphone 6 is slow and they 'need an upgrade' are lacking an enormous amount of perspective.

Yeah, everyone knows for the money you should go for the oneplus 5t!:D

kerryjack

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

The biggest obstacle for most people isn’t ability, lack of opportunity, lack of time or any other variable - it’s fear.

The vast majority of us are completely controlled by our inhibitions and most never learn how to move past them.

For this reason, most people just canter through a very average life without ever achieving anything they thought they could or anything they wanted to.

Ya but everyone have different achievment some aim high and some aim low. for me average is isn't too bad in this country to own an average house and drive an average car, for me success is to have good food, good drink and good sex all these things will keep you happy on a daily basis, everything else is not important.

Prune Tracy

professore wrote: »

There are genuinely people who enjoy being cruel to others, especially those weaker than them. Any kid knows this.

Well of course, but it's the "we are all cruel to others" thing that I'm querying.