Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2018/19

Brock Turnpike

Isn't it amazing that Matt Doherty has managed to play so well in the PL this season without having a Cyrus Christie type player playing in midfield to give him a dig out?

blinding

Christy Browne wrote: »

Matt Doherty on the scoresheet again today. Between him and Shane Duffy we have two of the best goalscoring defenders in the Premier League :pac:

Why did O’Neill and Keane have so little time for Doherty ?

Just another of their blind spots I suppose .

johnnyryan89

Be interesting to see how Mick fits both him and Coleman into the team playing on the right or if we go with three CBs will Coleman play RCB to accomdate Doherty at RWB or will both lads fight it out for that RWB spot.

The Talking Bread

blinding wrote: »

Why did O’Neill and Keane have so little time for Doherty ?

Just another of their blind spots I suppose .

I don't remember a massive fuss to fit Doherty into the team during the WC qualifiers tbh. Christie was the logical choice by vast majority to deputise for Coleman.

He eventually succumbed to pressure during the Nations league and to be fair Doherty was average when he came in.
But that tells more about O'Neills utilisation of him than anything else

Christy Browne

Coleman’s had a bit of a horror 2 minutes against Watford. Shot Rick O’Shea’s off the post and in off Coleman for an own goal.

2 minutes later Doucoure is towering above him to nod home and put Watford into the lead.

Redo91

Going by his Instagram Parott is over in Barcelona for the game tomorrow.

Mr.Nice Guy

Parrott may be involved in the UEFA Youth League game tomorrow, no? Spurs are playing Barca in that competition at 3pm (the game is on BT Sport 2).

yabadabado

Afaik Parrott trains with the senior side on a very regular basis.

johnnyryan89

Don't think Parrot is eligible for the senior team in the champions league anyway.

johnnyryan89

sugarman wrote: »

Why not? If youre under 21 you dont have to be in the submitted squad.

But you need to be with the team for two years, the rule for the B list is you gotta be with the team for two years between the ages of 15 and 21. Don't think Parrot joined Spurs until he was 16 so would be 18 before he qualifies automatically for Spurs.

Gonna check it out again but I know it's two years between the ages of 15 and 21 for the B list, three years between the ages of 15 and 21 at the club to be club home grown and three years in England before home grown to nation.

Mr.Nice Guy

Liverpool facing Napoli at 1pm in the UEFA Youth League. Any Irish involvement in this? Maybe Conor Masterson or Glen McAuley, or would they be too old for it now?

johnnyryan89

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Liverpool facing Napoli at 1pm in the UEFA Youth League. Any Irish involvement in this? Maybe Conor Masterson or Glen McAuley, or would they be too old for it now?

McAuley can play, it's for players born on or after Jan 1st 2000 so he's underage and you're allowed three overage players born on or after Jan 1st 1999 so Masterson and Kelleher would be just overage.

McAuley hasn't featured in any of the other youth league game squads bar making the bench once in a game against PSG back in September.

Ferris_Bueller

The u21s and Stephen Kenny found out their opposition today for the qualifiers. We were drawn with Italy, Sweden, Iceland, Armenia and Luxembourg. Top team goes through and the two best second place teams go into a playoff against one another apparently. Probably could have got a worse group but realistically we aren't going to qualify anyway, hopefully we can get some good results and improve on the past few years.

8-10

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

McAuley can play, it's for players born on or after Jan 1st 2000 so he's underage and you're allowed three overage players born on or after Jan 1st 1999 so Masterson and Kelleher would be just overage.

McAuley hasn't featured in any of the other youth league game squads bar making the bench once in a game against PSG back in September.

I think Liam Coyle might qualify for us too but doubtful that he would declare and not even sure he's good enough anyway. Of all of them I'd say Kelleher is the only one with a chance of playing for Ireland and he's with the first team now.

dr.kenneth noisewater

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

The u21s and Stephen Kenny found out their opposition today for the qualifiers. We were drawn with Italy, Sweden, Iceland, Armenia and Luxembourg. Top team goes through and the two best second place teams go into a playoff against one another apparently. Probably could have got a worse group but realistically we aren't going to qualify anyway, hopefully we can get some good results and improve on the past few years.

Tough draw but was always gonna be that way as 4th seeds. be good to see them push for 2nd at the least

Ferris_Bueller

Also the fixtures are confirmed, Kenny will only miss out on one game (away to Italy) when he takes over the senior job.

2019
March 24: Luxembourg (H)
September 6: Armenia (H)
September 10: Sweden (A)
October 10: Italy (H)
October 15: Iceland (A)
November 14: Armenia (A)
November 19: Sweden (H)

2020
March 26: Iceland (H)
March 31: Luxembourg (A)
October 13: Italy (A)

dr.kenneth noisewater

big gap between the first and second games!

Mr.Nice Guy

Troy Parrott starts up top for Spurs in their Uefa Youth League game in Barcelona.

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/1072501199142838272

Kick-off 3pm on BT Sport 2.

johnnyryan89

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

big gap between the first and second games!

The 2019 U21 tournament finals are held during the month of June. Hopefully there'll be friendlies held during the month of June.

Good move by the FAI to get 9 of the 10 competitive games played before Kenny moves up to the seniors. Gives him more game to work with the younger players and try implement his style of play on the younger age groups in the hopes that if some move onto the seniors they've already worked with him and know how he wants to play.

Don't expect much from this qualifying campaign, think this will be used as preparation for the 2023 tournament we'll be possibly co hosting. No talk of a backroom team for the u21s is a worry, these should be the lads who'll work with Kenny and continue on the work with the u21s when he steps up unless the plan is for Tom Mohan and his coaches to form the backroom team.

Mr.Nice Guy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Troy Parrott starts up top for Spurs in their Uefa Youth League game in Barcelona.

Parrott makes it 1-0! First real chance he's had too.

Duff

Is Parrott eligible for England in any way?

Tchaikovsky

Duff wrote: »

Is Parrott eligible for England in any way?

Or Luxembourg?

Christy Browne

Duff wrote: »

Is Parrott eligible for England in any way?

Born and bred in Dublin, he’s ours

mada82

sugarman wrote: »

3.5 years more of living/playing in the UK and he'll qualify, unless he makes his senior competitive bout for us before then

I would say there is absolutely no chance a born and bred Irish man with Irish parents would ever play for England.

johnnyryan89

sugarman wrote: »

Theres the U19 and U17 tournaments too. So there potentially wont be too many players to pick from if we were to play friendlies given that many of our current crop of U21s will be too old.

A lot of our U19s will be moving in to the U21s next year. The U19s are into the eilte round of qualifiers which take part in March 2019 and onto the finals in June if they qualify. So either way they'll only be missing the first game and available for the remainder of qualifying from September on wards.

I see a lot a people saying the draw was tough, but theyre basing it on the quality of the senior teams rather than at youth level ..and even that, theyre basing the youth level on current or past U21 squads which will be entirely a different set of players and even management.

Sweden have 4 or 5 player that will possibly remain with the u21 side, the rest will be promoted from their u19s which have failed to qualify for 2019. They a handful of decent players, but the biggest difference is far more of their players are already playing first team football for their clubs than us which is beneficial and giving them an upper hand.

U17s finals are held in May and the U19s are held in July so lads would be available, even if there was no friendlies a training camp for the 19s would be beneficial if they qualify for the finals. Quite a few youngsters in the LOI so might get a home-based squad.

This is very important when it comes to u21 level. We play some lovely passing football at u16, u17, u18 and even u19, we played the Netherlands off the park back in October at u19s level and they had one or two lads playing senior football already I think but this time next year most of their lads who'll be 19/20 will be playing senior football somewhere. Even when we played Kosovo last year they'd a handful of lads that were playing senior football since 18.

Hopefully Obafemi can keep his place in Southamptons match day squad and Aaron Connolly gets a shot at senior level, that would be a start having two strikers involved at senior club level and there's a few lads in the LOI like Darragh Leahy, Ali Reghba (currently with the u19s) and Trevor Clarke who should be playing week in week out. Hopefully Aaron Bolger gets a loan move as his chances at Rovers are slim with the players they've signed.

Mr.Nice Guy

Spurs beat Barca 2-0 in the end. Parrott was subbed shortly before the end and got a good reception.

Tottenham have some impressive players coming through. I was impressed with their CB Timothy Eyoma.

Eod100

sugarman wrote: »

3.5 years more of living/playing in the UK and he'll qualify, unless he makes his senior competitive bout for us before then

On what basis? Residency?

Mr.Nice Guy

I see Ryan Nolan played for Inter today as they beat PSV 3-0.

Some good defensive prospects emerging for us with Nolan, Masterson, O'Connor.

I'd love to see some talented central midfielders on the horizon. I know the lad Johansson at Bayern seems to be looking elsewhere now. Who is our most exciting prospect in this area?

GLaDOS

Declan Rice?

Mr.Nice Guy

GLaDOS wrote: »

Declan Rice?

Probably right. It would be great if he decided to return to the fold as we'd have an exciting spine in place for the years to come but I'm not holding my breath on that.

johnnyryan89

sugarman wrote: »

Ali Reghba is on the verge of signing with Leicester apparently, played in an U23 reserves game for them yesterday.

Hopefully they can sort out a loan move keeping him in the league for a little longer playing senior football.

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I see Ryan Nolan played for Inter today as they beat PSV 3-0.

Some good defensive prospects emerging for us with Nolan, Masterson, O'Connor.

I'd love to see some talented central midfielders on the horizon. I know the lad Johansson at Bayern seems to be looking elsewhere now. Who is our most exciting prospect in this area?

Think Johansson is just keeping his options open, a switch now would have tied him to Ireland. While he's a prospect at Bayren atm, he could very easily be playing in the German second division in two years time or another lower level league in Europe which would rule him out of Irish selection because we once in a blue moon bring up players outside the UK.

Aaron Bolger and Conor Coventry are the two starting midfielders for the 19s. Conor Coventry has been up in the first team squad with West Ham this season and made his debut in the league cup. Both lads are in their final year of 19s so will move onto the u21s in the summer.

Daniel Mandroiu, Jason Molumby, Kian Flanagan and Daniel McKenna will be with the u21s this March also.

pgj2015

mada82 wrote: »

I would say there is absolutely no chance a born and bred Irish man with Irish parents would ever play for England.

you never know, sure weren't some Irish people cheering on england during the world cup.:eek:

OldMrBrennan83

GLaDOS wrote: »

Declan Rice?

Speakihg of which, isn't he due to put us out of our misery before the end of 2018?

blinding

Patww79 wrote: »

Speakihg of which, isn't he due to put us out of our misery before the end of 2018?

We need his back stop in Ireland !

Dots1982

How young is Troy Parrott in terms of the players in the youth champions league. Is he one of the youngest players in it or is he just younger than the average?

The Talking Bread

The name Troy Parrot sounds like an Alan Partridge character or a Harry Enfield football commentator skit

Brock Turnpike

mada82 wrote: »

sugarman wrote: »

3.5 years more of living/playing in the UK and he'll qualify, unless he makes his senior competitive bout for us before then

I would say there is absolutely no chance a born and bred Irish man with Irish parents would ever play for England.

Some people enjoy taking the soup.

Tchaikovsky

Have heard a bit of Aaron Connolly at Brighton but he doesn't seem to be near the first-team - which is weird seeing as their main striker is Glenn Murray. Is he a decent prospect?

johnnyryan89

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

Have heard a bit of Aaron Connolly at Brighton but he doesn't seem to be near the first-team - which is weird seeing as their main striker is Glenn Murray. Is he a decent prospect?

Glenn Murray is joint fourth with 8 goals this season, only two behind Mo Salah and Aubameyang.

But Connolly is probably the most well rounded striker in our underage system, doesn't rely mostly on his speed like Obafemi has at underage level or his strength like Idah does. If he was coming through at Southampton instead who have one goal more as a team than Murray has himself he'd probably be in the first team squad getting game time. Hopefully he gets his chances in the FA cup after Christmas and once their postion in the league becomes safe towards the end of the season he gets a few league appearances before a loan move next season.

Tchaikovsky

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Glenn Murray is joint fourth with 8 goals this season, only two behind Mo Salah and Aubameyang.

But Connolly is probably the most well rounded striker in our underage system, doesn't rely mostly on his speed like Obafemi has at underage level or his strength like Idah does. If he was coming through at Southampton instead who have one goal more as a team than Murray has himself he'd probably be in the first team squad getting game time. Hopefully he gets his chances in the FA cup after Christmas and once their postion in the league becomes safe towards the end of the season he gets a few league appearances before a loan move next season.

Nothing against Murray's record this season, just given the fact that he's 35, his legs aren't going to last 90 minutes for 38 games.

I see Connolly was linked with Hoffenheim recently actually.

Brock Turnpike

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Glenn Murray is joint fourth with 8 goals this season, only two behind Mo Salah and Aubameyang.

But Connolly is probably the most well rounded striker in our underage system, doesn't rely mostly on his speed like Obafemi has at underage level or his strength like Idah does. If he was coming through at Southampton instead who have one goal more as a team than Murray has himself he'd probably be in the first team squad getting game time. Hopefully he gets his chances in the FA cup after Christmas and once their postion in the league becomes safe towards the end of the season he gets a few league appearances before a loan move next season.

Nothing against Murray's record this season, just given the fact that he's 35, his legs aren't going to last 90 minutes for 38 games.

I see Connolly was linked with Hoffenheim recently actually.

Just been awarded PL2 player of the month for November...

https://twitter.com/PLYouth/status/1073518003969552384?s=09

Christy Browne

David McGoldrick on the scoresheet again for Sheffield United against West Brom. Enda Stevens has started very well too.

I’d imagine Mick is there to watch potential call ups. John Egan and possible switcher Jack O’Connell also starting in a back 3 for The Blades.

johnnyryan89

Christy Browne wrote: »

David McGoldrick on the scoresheet again for Sheffield United against West Brom. Enda Stevens has started very well too.

I’d imagine Mick is there to watch potential call ups. John Egan and possible switcher Jack O’Connell also starting in a back 3 for The Blades.

Can see McGoldrick back in the Irish team under Mick, they both worked together at Ipswich and seems to be playing well since his move to Sheffield United.

Christy Browne

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Can see McGoldrick back in the Irish team under Mick, they both worked together at Ipswich and seems to be playing well since his move to Sheffield United.

Just looking at his stats there and he only has 6 goals in 22 games. Thought it was more than that for some reason.

He scored 4 in 4 back in late September/early October and tonight was his first goal since then.
At 31 I’d be looking at our other younger options up front but it’s hard to see Mick leaving him out.

Christy Browne

sugarman wrote: »

Mick and Robbie went to watch Sheffield last weekend. Mick was quizzed on McGoldrick and he said he knows him very well, he wouldn't rule him out and he'll be keeping an eye on him.

Hes a useful player IMO and hes doing well at the minute in a decent Sheffield side. With limited striking options you cant ignore anyone doing well regardless of age. Hes playing week in/out and I believe with 6 goals he'd be our 2nd highest scorer so far this season behind Robinson? Sure hes younger than Long and he hasnt scored in about 2 years for us!

Theres more to his game than goals too, I've seen him involved in 2/3 Sheffield games this season and hes good at holding up play and picking out passes.

I remember him in this game, first goal @0.45 picking out Pilkington with a perfectly weighted pass on the outside of his foot.. then saw him do a near identical pass in one of the Sheffield games I saw a few weeks ago.

EDIT: Good example of his link up play in the second goal also.

That's fair enough, I mean he's obviously a quality player if he's starting week in week out at a good level at the top end of the Championship. It's probably a campaign too early for the likes of Parrott/Idah/Connolly, so I wouldn't be completely against him getting a call up.

Our strikers are much of a muchness at the minute. Long is bang average. I think Maguire has potential to be very good but he's constantly injured. Hogan I haven't seen much of, but he can't get a game for Villa at the minute and his form at Brentford seems like the outlier rather than the norm.

Robinson and Obafemi are probably our best bet at the minute although the former has a long term injury as well, but he should be back by March

johnnyryan89

sugarman wrote: »

Mick and Robbie went to watch Sheffield last weekend. Mick was quizzed on McGoldrick and he said he knows him very well, he wouldn't rule him out and he'll be keeping an eye on him.

Hes a useful player IMO and hes doing well at the minute in a decent Sheffield side. With limited striking options you cant ignore anyone doing well regardless of age. Hes playing week in/out and I believe with 6 goals he'd be our 2nd highest scorer so far this season behind Robinson? Sure hes younger than Long and he hasnt scored in about 2 years for us!

Theres more to his game than goals too, I've seen him involved in 2/3 Sheffield games this season and hes good at holding up play and picking out passes.

I remember him in this game, first goal @0.45 picking out Pilkington with a perfectly weighted pass on the outside of his foot.. then saw him do a near identical pass in one of the Sheffield games I saw a few weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DJB2NOTODQ

Yeah think this is the main thing to remember with McGoldrick that he's not an out and out centre forward like Billy Sharp would be in that partnership at United whose got 11 league goals.

Our only problem there is we haven't got any goal scorers, so it's up to the new management to try and develop a system or style now to best suit the team at creating goals after the tripe we've witnessed in 2018. And for Kenny to get the u21s playing well in the style he'll want to play in hopes that some of them can make the jump to senior football once he comes in August 2020.

topmanamillion

Christy Browne wrote: »

That's fair enough, I mean he's obviously a quality player if he's starting week in week out at a good level at the top end of the Championship. It's probably a campaign too early for the likes of Parrott/Idah/Connolly, so I wouldn't be completely against him getting a call up.

Our strikers are much of a muchness at the minute. Long is bang average. I think Maguire has potential to be very good but he's constantly injured. Hogan I haven't seen much of, but he can't get a game for Villa at the minute and his form at Brentford seems like the outlier rather than the norm.

Robinson and Obafemi are probably our best bet at the minute although the former has a long term injury as well, but he should be back by March

Obafemi has made 4 league appearances this year for a bottom of the table side and has never scored a senior goal. We desperately need goals but its too soon to put that pressure on Obafemi.

Hogan, Maguire, Robinson and Long will probably be our main pick of attacking options, injuries dependent. Obafemi will most likely get 15 minutes here and there.

In an ideal world, Kenny would be senior manager now with a brief to blood young talent during this campaign safe in the knowledge that we are all but guaranteed a playoff in March 2020 and the bigger carrot of the World Cup Campaign ahead.

Instead, McCarthy is manager with the brief to bleed a bit more from old stones like Long, McClean and Co, in the hope we some how stumble to a Euros with a few matches in Dublin. Short term thinking at its best.

Christy Browne

topmanamillion wrote: »

Obafemi has made 4 league appearances this year for a bottom of the table side and has never scored a senior goal. We desperately need goals but its too soon to put that pressure on Obafemi.

Hogan, Maguire, Robinson and Long will probably be our main pick of attacking options, injuries dependent. Obafemi will most likely get 15 minutes here and there.

In an ideal world, Kenny would be senior manager now with a brief to blood young talent during this campaign safe in the knowledge that we are all but guaranteed a playoff in March 2020 and the bigger carrot of the World Cup Campaign ahead.

Instead, McCarthy is manager with the brief to bleed a bit more from old stones like Long, McClean and Co, in the hope we some how stumble to a Euros with a few matches in Dublin. Short term thinking at its best.

We'll have to see what the new manager at Southampton thinks of Obafemi. Very highly regarded coach in Germany that was tipped for the Bayern job previously. Obafemi might have 10 league goals by the time March rolls around. Then again he's just as likely to be loaned out to the Championship.

He seemed to like having a pressing forward at Leipzig so who knows, maybe Shane Long could become Timo Werner incarnate.

Eod100

Browne in for Preston

johnnyryan89

Did Seamus Coleman pick up a knock in the Everton game? Started out as a RWB and was taken off in the 57th minute for Walcott and Everton seemed to go to a back four.

Eod100 wrote: »

Browne in for Preston

Think Browne has now got the same number of league goals as David McGoldrick and more assists. Hopefully he gets a chance under the new managment to impress.