Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2018/19

Fr Tod Umptious

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

It's Gibraltar. I fancy Luca's chances against a part time footballer who plies his trade as an electrician by day.

Georgia under O'Neill were allowed to play and impose themselves on us. They have their technical proficiencies but they are not a great team. I fully expect a Mick team to beat them comprehensively, not necessarily from a goal perspective, but unlike O'Neill's Ireland, we won't be made look like the away team at the Aviva. O'Neill should be ashamed of how he had us set up and playing against Georgia.

This attitude of bigging up poor teams, for no good reason, does ourselves no favours.

Lincoln Red Imps 1 - Celtic 0

Banjaxed82

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

As much as we would all like it to happen it just wont. Will be very few shocks in the team selection, if any.

Realistically, how many shocks could there be?

Banjaxed82

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Lincoln Red Imps 1 - Celtic 0

The Scottish League shouldn't be a barometer for anything.

pgj2015

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

The Scottish League shouldn't be a barometer for anything.

The Irish team is pretty poor to say the least, worst team we have had in 40 years. hopefully mick can sort that out though.

Doctor Jimbob

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

The Scottish League shouldn't be a barometer for anything.

Lincoln Red Imps don't play in the Scottish league

The Talking Bread

Anyone that thinks Georgia is an ideal opponent to risk blooding in or trying out new players.......really needs to revise their thinking. And better or equal class teams to us, like Serbia, Austria, Wales, even Germany have struggled against them in the last few years

The Talking Bread

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

It's Gibraltar. I fancy Luca's chances against a part time footballer who plies his trade as an electrician by day.

Georgia under O'Neill were allowed to play and impose themselves on us. They have their technical proficiencies but they are not a great team. I fully expect a Mick team to beat them comprehensively, not necessarily from a goal perspective, but unlike O'Neill's Ireland, we won't be made look like the away team at the Aviva. O'Neill should be ashamed of how he had us set up and playing against Georgia.

This attitude of bigging up poor teams, for no good reason, does ourselves no favours.

Georgia rarely get beaten by anyone comprehensively, never mind us. A two goals cushion victory against them by most teams would be deemed a good result these days. Most of their defeats are by the odd goal.

PTH2009

Anything but a win in Gibraltar will be a ****ing disaster

The Talking Bread

PTH2009 wrote: »

Anything but a win in Gibraltar will be a ****ing disaster

Obviously.

Eod100

pgj2015 wrote: »

The Irish team is pretty poor to say the least, worst team we have had in 40 years. hopefully mick can sort that out though.

Maybe but either way qualifying for Euros needs to be target especially with increased numbers of team in it since the last one.

Didn't we beat Gibraltar 11-0 in Euro qualifiers last time out? Anything less than 2 wins would be very poor return.

eire4

Eod100 wrote: »

Maybe but either way qualifying for Euros needs to be target especially with increased numbers of team in it since the last one.

Didn't we beat Gibraltar 11-0 in Euro qualifiers last time out? Anything less than 2 wins would be very poor return.

If you mean 11-0 over the 2 games then yes it was 4-0 away and 7-0 at home.

PTH2009

Eod100 wrote: »

Maybe but either way qualifying for Euros needs to be target especially with increased numbers of team in it since the last one.

Didn't we beat Gibraltar 11-0 in Euro qualifiers last time out? Anything less than 2 wins would be very poor return.

in 2016 Scotland, Denmark, Bosnia and Holland didnt qualify for the finals. So in 2020 bigger nations will miss out again only 24 teams (with 1 been a tier 4 nation) can qualify

mada82

I think the poster who said a comprehensive win against Georgia meant he expected us to win the game without defending for our lives at the 18 yard box and hoofing the ball aimlessly up the pitch to defend another onslaught. Rinse and repeat all game long like we did under MON

OldMrBrennan83

A decent performance would be #1 for me. I don't care if it's direct or defensive, just something that's not completely aimless.

Banjaxed82

mada82 wrote: »

I think the poster who said a comprehensive win against Georgia meant he expected us to win the game without defending for our lives at the 18 yard box and hoofing the ball aimlessly up the pitch to defend another onslaught. Rinse and repeat all game long like we did under MON

Pretty much. Nobody doubts Georgia have a bit about them. And that bit about them looks world beating when you sit back and allow them play.

Mick won't allow the same scenario unfold that MON did. And like most teams of Georgia's level, when you put them under pressure in the final third, the cracks will show fairly quickly and continuously.

Eod100

eire4 wrote: »

If you mean 11-0 over the 2 games then yes it was 4-0 away and 7-0 at home.

I did yup

Eod100

PTH2009 wrote: »

in 2016 Scotland, Denmark, Bosnia and Holland didnt qualify for the finals. So in 2020 bigger nations will miss out again only 24 teams (with 1 been a tier 4 nation) can qualify

Meant since 2016 that 24 teams can qualify. Was 16 in 2012.

Yeah didn't we knock out Bosnia in play-offs? Denmark knocked out by Sweden. Scotland and Netherlands didn't get out of their groups.

No doubt big teams will miss out but think Ireland qualifying for Euros has to be the aim.

The Talking Bread

Eod100 wrote: »

Meant since 2016 that 24 teams can qualify. Was 16 in 2012.

Yeah didn't we knock out Bosnia in play-offs? Denmark knocked out by Sweden. Scotland and Netherlands didn't get out of their groups.

No doubt big teams will miss out but think Ireland qualifying for Euros has to be the aim.

What other aim would there be?!

It is somewhat against the odds, imo, , that we will, though

Eod100

The Talking Bread wrote: »

What other aim would there be?!

It is somewhat against the odds, imo, , that we will, though

My replies were to the post that said we had the worst Irish team in 40 years.

We have the team we have, need to make the most of it and qualifying is the aim irrespective.

johnnyryan89

https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/ireland-u18-reid-promoted-to-head-coach-role

Andy Reid promoted to head coach with the u18s. Jim Crawford did great work with the u18s and is now part of the u21 set up.

The Talking Bread

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/ireland-u18-reid-promoted-to-head-coach-role

Andy Reid promoted to head coach with the u18s. Jim Crawford did great work with the u18s and is now part of the u21 set up.

Have they also hired someone to take over from him in a year's time. Need to plan ahead.

dr.kenneth noisewater

The Talking Bread wrote: »

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/ireland-u18-reid-promoted-to-head-coach-role

Andy Reid promoted to head coach with the u18s. Jim Crawford did great work with the u18s and is now part of the u21 set up.

Have they also hired someone to take over from him in a year's time. Need to plan ahead.

I assume the plan is for Crawford to take over from Kenny

Rhys Essien

Some stat here. The two Cork fellas Hourihane and Browne are the top scoring midfielders in the Championship since 2017.

https://twitter.com/heartoftheholte/status/1103349568035532800?s=21

Eod100

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Some stat here. The two Cork fellas Hourihane and Browne are the top scoring midfielders in the Championship since 2017.

https://twitter.com/heartoftheholte/status/1103349568035532800?s=21

More than most if not all our strikers in that time..

Eod100

Squad out some sometime today then?

Banjaxed82

Eod100 wrote: »

Squad out some sometime today then?

Midday. Although Derby jumped the gun to reveal Keogh's inclusion.

Eod100

Just out: https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status/1103621920497590272?s=19

Nunu

Glenn Whelan. Fair play to him

Eod100

Amond and Collins in. Robinson out. Not sure is it that changed bar that

Ferris_Bueller

Eod100 wrote: »

Amond and Collins in. Robinson out. Not sure is it that changed bar that

I think Robinson is injured, may have went back training this week.

38 man squad seems excessive, couple of lads there who are really struggling for game time at club level like Meyler, Ward, Hogan, McCarthy.

Happy for Amond to receive a call up but realistically he won't be the answer to our goalscoring problems.

PhilipsR

This preliminary squad thing is a load of crap. Just have the stones to name 23 players.

weldoninhio

Was Whelan not given the captaincy against NI as it was his last game?? Pointless picking him and McGeady. Was excited to see Mick come back. Hopefully they are jettisoned when the actual squad is picked.

Ferris_Bueller

weldoninhio wrote: »

Was Whelan not given the captaincy against NI as it was his last game?? Pointless picking him and McGeady. Was excited to see Mick come back. Hopefully they are jettisoned when the actual squad is picked.

He was, seems a bit bizarre now alright. In fairness to him though he is playing regularly for Villa in centre midfield, it seems like most players who are performing regularly at that level have been called up (Towell is one who is missing though). McGeady probably deserves a call up with the form he is in for Sunderland.

If I was to pick my final 23 based on that I'd go with
GK: Randolph, Westwood, O'Hara
DF: Coleman, Doherty, Christie, Stevens, Duffy, Egan, Keogh, Long
MF: Hendrick, Arter, Williams, Browne, Brady, McClean, O'Dowda, Hourihane
FW: Long, Maguire, McGoldrick, Collins

LuckyLloyd

weldoninhio wrote: »

Was Whelan not given the captaincy against NI as it was his last game?? Pointless picking him and McGeady. Was excited to see Mick come back. Hopefully they are jettisoned when the actual squad is picked.

Unless and until he started doing things you disagreed with? Whelan and McGeady are experienced international players in great form for their clubs and at positions where we have a complete absence of premiership options.

I'm excited to see McCarthy back because I know he's a pragmatic positive individual who will do what he thinks gives us the best chance to win and doesn't give a **** what the media or those outside the tent have to say. Exactly what we need.

I look forward to you cribbing throughout another managerial appointment in succession though lad

weldoninhio

sugarman wrote: »

MON retired him, Whelan always maintained he was never retiring and would never turn down a call up should he be needed in the future.

Ive absolutely no problem with Whelan being there, its not as if hes taking someone elses space in the squad. Hes been fantastic this season, and a game changer for Villa on more than one occasion in recent weeks. If anything Id be questioning the inclusion of Meyler rather than Whelan. He dropped down a division and still cant get a game!

McGeady has to be there on current form, again its not like we're swamped with natural wingers either. He can play left or right no bother.

If anti-football, pro-plodder O'Neill retires you and your main (only) attribute is plodding then the game is up.

McGeady had played well for periods at Prem, Championship and now Lge 1 level. He's been poison for Ireland through all of these periods.

Eod100

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

I think Robinson is injured, may have went back training this week.

38 man squad seems excessive, couple of lads there who are really struggling for game time at club level like Meyler, Ward, Hogan, McCarthy.

Happy for Amond to receive a call up but realistically he won't be the answer to our goalscoring problems.

Yeah looks like Robinson is due to be back with Preston fairly soon. Presume he can always be brought back in if it comes to it but the matches this month might be a bit soon for him

The Talking Bread

Anyone significant miss out?

Christy Browne

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Anyone significant miss out?

Would definitely have Greg Cunningham in ahead of Ward, is he injured?

Dots1982

There was no reason to be excited about Mick’s appointment that I can see unless you’re a baseless optimist with unreasonable expectations.

johnnyryan89

weldoninhio wrote: »

If anti-football, pro-plodder O'Neill retires you and your main (only) attribute is plodding then the game is up.

McGeady had played well for periods at Prem, Championship and now Lge 1 level. He's been poison for Ireland through all of these periods.

McGeadya biggest problem is the likes of Preston and now Sunderland are playing to his strengths and build their attacks around him, when he comes to Ireland then he'll probably stink it out because he's expected to fit into a game plan he's not good at or doesn't play at club level.

Unless you're gonna start McGeady on the left and let him cut back inside on his stronger foot to do his thing then I see no reason to pick him. Especially then if you select him to play on the right of midfield or expect him to be an impact sub.

LuckyLloyd

Dots1982 wrote: »

There was no reason to be excited about Mick’s appointment that I can see unless you’re a baseless optimist with unreasonable expectations.

The playing pool is roughly the same it was two year's ago. That's the bottom line. Whelan and McGeady deserving a place in the panel (and they do indeed deserve a place) tells you all you need to know.

But they'll go out there and they'll give it their all so it's time to get behind the team.

crustyjuggler

Any ideas what formation we will play ? Retro 4 - 4 - 2 . Give it a lash .

johnnyryan89

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Anyone significant miss out?

We haven't even got anyone significant to choose in the first place. My biggest gripe is it's another ridiculous 38 man squad, containing names of lads who have no business being there and naming five keepers.

pjohnson

weldoninhio wrote: »

Was Whelan not given the captaincy against NI as it was his last game?? Pointless picking him and McGeady. Was excited to see Mick come back. Hopefully they are jettisoned when the actual squad is picked.

Ah now weldon no need to pretend. You're among friends.

topmanamillion

Dots1982 wrote: »

There was no reason to be excited about Mick’s appointment that I can see unless you’re a baseless optimist with unreasonable expectations.

Exactly. There won't be any major changes under McCarthy. People have this delusional thinking that Mick is Barnsleys answer to Pep. Possibly because he's the last manager to get us to a World Cup.

It'll be more of the same from what we've seen under the last few managers. No passing it around in defence, no pass from GK - CB, route one all the way.

The only difference is the players might be a bit more enthusiastic like they were at the start of MONs reign as opposed to how they were at the end.

Zico !

Predictable squad no need for the extended squad.
On a side note have rte got rid of the comments sections on the website used be good banter.

Dots1982

topmanamillion wrote: »

Exactly. There won't be any major changes under McCarthy. People have this delusional thinking that Mick is Barnsleys answer to Pep. Possibly because he's the last manager to get us to a World Cup.

It'll be more of the same from what we've seen under the last few managers. No passing it around in defence, no pass from GK - CB, route one all the way.

The only difference is the players might be a bit more enthusiastic like they were at the start of MONs reign as opposed to how they were at the end.

I don’t think people think mick is barnsley’s Pep, I just think there’s always huge expectations from some Irish fans no matter who the manager is. These people need to sit down and go through the squad and realize bar 1 or 2 none of these players ever really achieved much in their careers up to now.

Was McCarthy asked about Dan Crowley. O’neill Picked Wes. I don’t see any opportunity for this squad to play anything other than aimless long ball and we haven’t the “big lad upfront” for long ball

Christy Browne

Dots1982 wrote: »

I don’t think people think mick is barnsley’s Pep, I just think there’s always huge expectations from some Irish fans no matter who the manager is. These people need to sit down and go through the squad and realize bar 1 or 2 none of these players ever really achieved much in their careers up to now.

Was McCarthy asked about Dan Crowley. O’neill Picked Wes. I don’t see any opportunity for this squad to play anything other than aimless long ball and we haven’t the “big lad upfront” for long ball

Crowley's papers haven't gone through yet

gmisk

Dots1982 wrote: »

I don’t think people think mick is barnsley’s Pep, I just think there’s always huge expectations from some Irish fans no matter who the manager is. These people need to sit down and go through the squad and realize bar 1 or 2 none of these players ever really achieved much in their careers up to now.

Was McCarthy asked about Dan Crowley. O’neill Picked Wes. I don’t see any opportunity for this squad to play anything other than aimless long ball and we haven’t the “big lad upfront” for long ball

I think Dan Crowley is still waiting for his transfer to play for ireland to come through? So doubt he would be illegible.

Dots1982

gmisk wrote: »

I think Dan Crowley is still waiting for his transfer to play for ireland to come through? So doubt he would be illegible.

We served them Rice quick fast and he’s actually played for us. Bit annoying that he’s still not eligible