Louise O'Neill on manned mission to Mars: "Why not go to Venus?" (MOD Warning post 1)

Gravelly

She's like one of those wänkers that start a fight in a bar and then run off before the punches are thrown.

JohnMc1

py2006 wrote: »

You'd swear by some of the social media posts that women have won a victory over men. " so proud of the women of Ireland" etc

Do they even realise that men voted yes too?

Good. Then Women can take the blame when Ireland goes down the ****ter like Germany,Sweden,France and Britain.

You want to take credit for starting the genocide against your own people. Then you can take the blame when you inevitably have no rights in your own Country.

JohnMc1

Gravelly wrote: »

She's like one of those wänkers that start a fight in a bar and then run off before the punches are thrown.

She's a typical virtue signaler.

the purple tin

Dakota Brave Carrot wrote: »

It’s like the women’s march she was going on and on about saying ‘let’s burn the place down’ And then she doesn’t go as she had appointments (and made sure it was with female docs/shrinks etc)

She seems to be basically a barstool feminist. Or maybe keyboard feminist would be more apt. Allergic to the grass-roots, roll up your sleeves, public appearance, pavement-pounding drudge type activities (the stuff co-incidentally, that doesn't pay well or help raise your stock signifigantly ).

JohnMc1

the purple tin wrote: »

She seems to be basically a barstool feminist. Or maybe keyboard feminist would be more apt. Allergic to the grass-roots, roll up your sleeves, public appearance, pavement-pounding drudge type activities (the stuff co-incidentally, that doesn't pay well or help raise your stock signifigantly ).

The Left are all activists until its time to do do some actual work.

Outlaw Pete

Just when you thought Louise couldn't possibly say anything more irrational than she's already done:

I was browsing an Irish website that sells sex toys (ask me no questions and I will tell you no lies, my friends) and I came across something that has haunted me ever since.

It was a men’s sex toy that was designed to imitate the look and feel of a woman’s torso, or, as the website described it as, “over 12 pounds of T&A for you to play with”.

They went on to say that “you’ve always dreamt of f**king a hot bitch like this, so what are you waiting for? Take your f**k slut out of the box... and pound that bitch”.

What if sex dolls actually reinforce dangerous sexual practices? What do such toys say about how men see and view women? Do they bolster the notion that we are just toys to be used for personal gratification, and can be discarded immediately afterwards?

Whatever your personal beliefs about the Ulster Rugby Rape Trial, (and yes, the jury found them not guilty), the Whatsapp messages that were shared between those involved highlighted a sinister attitude towards women that I refuse to accept as “locker room talk”.

“Any sluts get f**ked?” one messages said. “Pumped a girl with Jacko on Monday. Roasted her” read another.

It almost seems as if they didn’t see the young woman in question as a human being at all.

That they nearly saw her as, well, some kind of sex doll.

Full article here.

Did a bit of Columbo'ing (aka: Google'ing) and would seem Louise was browsing the following item on the following site (not sure on rules regarding links to such sites so you'll have to cut & paste):

sextoys.ie/shop/fuck-me-silly-2-mega-masturbator-2/

One can't help but wonder why it is that Louise only sees the toys for men as an issue though. I mean surely she gets that large vibrating dildos are objecting the male form and will be similarly used by woman for sexual gratification and then discarded immediately afterwards too.

Personally, I take offense at the Big John Male Doll. What an awful way to portray Outlaws.

playblue.ie/products/big-john-male-doll-with-7-5-vibrating-penis-2-penetrating-holes

Muahahaha

From todays Sindo
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/theatre-arts/louise-oneill-and-meadhbh-mchugh-on-adapting-asking-for-it-for-the-stage-portraying-sexual-violence-and-the-ulster-rape-trial-36943760.html
Louise O'Neill and Meadhbh McHugh on adapting 'Asking for It' for the stage, portraying sexual violence, and the Ulster rape trial

Afew years ago I exchanged some emails with a girl from college. She told me she had written a novel. We met for tea a couple of times, kept in touch on Twitter and then met no more. She moved home to Clonakilty to write, and her career went stratospheric.

It's a strange experience, waiting in the corner of the Gresham for Louise O'Neill and Meadhbh McHugh, the Tuam playwright who has just adapted Louise's novel Asking for It for the stage. That friendly red-haired girl from college has become a decorated author and feminist supremo, a talented journalist and activist for abortion rights, a motivational speaker, a cover girl. Her mum made me sausages once in Clonakilty after I'd had a few too many shandies. I don't know why, but I cling to the memory.

Both writers plough through the foyer. They are both warm and lovely - but under pressure. Asking for It is in rehearsals, and we have just 30 minutes for the interview. It's like speed dating with feminists. Nice feminists.

The two young writers both studied at Trinity, but they don't know each other well. However, they are big fans of each other's work; maybe even a small love-in takes place.

"I was blown away, it made me cry," says Louise about a read-through of the play she witnessed. She entrusted her precious novel to another writer and a good job was done: perched next to each other on a sofa, their relief is palpable.

Meadhbh is jet-lagged, having just flown in from New York, where she lives. She orders a strong coffee. Louise doesn't like coffee.

"Try Red Bull?" asks the waitress.

Louise shakes her head. "If I drink anything with caffeine, my heart feels like it's going to explode."

When I press record, the author rubs her hands together and flexes her arms. She is in the zone. This is not the first interview she has done in 2018, and it won't be the last. She is everywhere. Louise has published four books in four years, two of them in the past two months and one launched just last night - The Surface Breaks, in which she takes on none other than Hans Christian Andersen in a feminist rewriting of The Little Mermaid.

Her first novel came out in 2013, the dystopian Only Ever Yours. There was a bidding war and soon there will be a movie. When it came to her second novel, she might have flunked. She didn't. She got the idea for Asking for It when pictures went viral of a girl at a concert in Slane. 'Slane girl' became a kind of national effigy.

"I was at a 21st birthday party and there were a lot of lads there talking about it. I just put up the point, 'why isn't it Slane boy?' There were three men involved. Why is it always the woman that's vilified? I'm great fun at parties, because I kept pushing it.

"I went home that night and I was so angry. When I have an overwhelming emotion, generally I need to put it into my writing, because that's the only way I know how to process it."

The idea she brought to her editor at Quercus in London was unheard of on the YA market. She would write about the shaming of a young woman, but take the Slane story further. Supposing that woman had been raped, then photographed and ostracised by her community?

Asking for it is about the rape of 'Ballinatoom girl' Emma O'Donovan. It is, like all Louise's books, timely, a kind of parable for the digital age. Some even say it was prophetic.

"I first gave it to my dad to read. I was a little bit nervous, because the book is a damning indictment of small-town life and jock culture and obviously my father is a GAA football star, and a pillar of the local community," says Louise.

"He came back to me and said, 'This is going to be a really important story. I hope you're ready'."

With a winsome social-media persona to promote the book, she was our newest literary star, among a stable of exciting newcomers like Donal Ryan, Rob Doyle and Sara Baume. While book sales soared and Louise picked up awards, she was receiving messages from survivors of rape and sexual violence. In 2016, she wrote the acclaimed documentary for RTÉ about consent. A TV adaptation of Asking for It is in development. Now a dream team are bringing it to the stage: director Annabelle Comyn and a punchy Lauren Coe in the leading role.

Meadhbh hadn't read Asking for It before Landmark asked her last summer to adapt it, together with Annabelle Comyn.

"I immediately downloaded the book, read it, and absolutely wanted to do it," says Meadhbh, who also wrote the play Helen and I.

She took a "forensic" approach, reading the book five times and making notes on characters, their journeys and the moods of the chapters. She invented dialogue and cut scenes and characters to create a two-act play with 12 characters. "I had to pull it all apart," she says.

"We're still finding new things. That is a sign of a really good book, how much you can get from reading and rereading."

Louise gave Meadhbh and Annabelle a free hand with the adaptation. Did she really have no changes to the script, no tiny, crucial objections?

"I wouldn't think it was my place to make any changes - it's kind of your story now as well," says Louise. She explains why this is. In 2016, she says, "it felt a little bit overwhelming, with the impact it seemed to be having socially and culturally. I realised I was going to have to separate myself from the book".

An unexpected turn occurred outside of the plot of Asking for It. While Meadhbh was writing the script, four men including two Ulster rugby players were put on trial, two of them charged with rape. There seemed to be a lot of similarities between Louise's book and the case. An alleged gang rape perpetrated by the town's sporting heroes, topped off with online abuse: amid the evidence given in the Belfast court were WhatsApp messages that couldn't be quoted here.

The language used by the Ulster men did influence some of Meadhbh's script. It was her first real stab at locker-room talk, and when some of the males in the rehearsal room found it "a little tame", she was flummoxed. "This is all I've got!"

Both writers become impassioned when talking about the trial, in which the four men were acquitted. "Whether you think a rape occurred or not, the WhatsApp messages were just so frightening," says Louise. "I was wondering about people I knew. Would you talk about me like this?

"There has to be a zero-tolerance policy, so that that kind of laddish banter is seen as just inexcusable. It's about educating young men so that they will have the courage to say to their friends 'Do not talk like that'."

The central drama in the play is an event that isn't shown.

"I didn't put it in the book," says Louise. "To avoid the gratuitous representation of sexual violence. Also I think it's that really ignorant conflation of sex with rape. Rape is about dominance and power, it's got nothing to do with sex."

Meadhbh nods. "I wanted a play that will challenge our voyeurism. Emma blacks out. I thought it was interesting that we black out as an audience with her."

For Meadhbh, the #MeToo and Time's Up movements have shown us one important thing. "Rape isn't always this kicking and screaming affair. That, for a lot of people is a shocking realisation."

"What makes it rape in the book," says Louise, "is she says no and he keeps going."

Four novels bring Louise dangerously close to becoming a national treasure, a badass one who talks gender theory and wears PVC leggings. How is fame? She laughs. "Irish celebrity is the biggest oxymoron."

How has she changed since her Trinity College days?

"My feminism at that point was to be the cool girl," she says, "I am much more comfortable in my own skin.

"You know, studying English literature put me off wanting to write. You're reading all these incredible works of fiction, thinking, I'll never be able to attain these dizzy heights."

It was in New York that she learnt to "own your ambition", and it was her boss at Elle who encouraged her to act on that ambition.

"Sometimes it's not just talent. You have to have some talent, but it's drive, it's work ethic, it's stamina, it's the refusal to give up when times get hard. That's kind of the recipe for success."

The photographer is waiting, as is an ensemble of actors in a rehearsal room nearby. This speed date is over, time's up.

Asking for It opens at Cork's Everyman Theatre on June 15; it opens at Dublin's Abbey Theatre on November 9

Muahahaha

Muahahaha wrote: »

From todays Sindo
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/theatre-arts/louise-oneill-and-meadhbh-mchugh-on-adapting-asking-for-it-for-the-stage-portraying-sexual-violence-and-the-ulster-rape-trial-36943760.html
Louise O'Neill and Meadhbh McHugh on adapting 'Asking for It' for the stage, portraying sexual violence, and the Ulster rape trial

any opportunity to squeeze Paddy Jackson/ulster trial in eh Lou Lou

RabbleRouser2k

I had to stop reading that Sindo article-I just knew I was gonna feel like giving up on life... The 'three guys' and one girl-well, sorry, but promiscuous women who have sex/ perform sex acts with multiple guys at the same time (as one photo showed) will always be called negative names. As will one guy and three girls. Unless they're paid, then it's porn.

The 21st-was that when she was dating the 22 year old guy who couldn't stand her?
Much of the abortion being legalised has sort of made me wonder how these folks will ply their trade once its passed. I sort of look at how when marijuana was 'legalised' in the US, the 'stoner' movies/ tv shows died a death. There was nothing 'cool' to write about-and then the 'stoners' were revealed to be moms and regular people-there wasn't anything 'fun' about it-so it's boring as heck. (Non stoner over here-so outsider looking in).

When its legal-there's nothing to write about. So of course LON is going after sex toys and other crap-and no doubt she'll be trying to use the recent tragic murders of two young women/ girls as fodder.
Ignoring the very violent deaths that happen to many young men/ boys, as recently as yesterday.

Wasn't 'Asking for it' supposed to be a film as well? Then we heard it was a play. Her 'handmaids tale-lite' seems to be a similar thing-probably a play, or she'll do what Samantha Mumba did with her 'my next album will be out soon...' only for it never to happen.

Yer Da sells Avon

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Did a bit of Columbo'ing (aka: Google'ing) and would seem Louise was browsing the following item on the following site (not sure on rules regarding links to such sites so you'll have to cut & paste):

sextoys.ie/shop/fuck-me-silly-2-mega-masturbator-2/

I'm a slightly "larger" man, if you know what I mean (I mean, I eat a lot of cake and I don't exercise) and I would not recommend the Fuck Me Silly 2 Mega Masturbator™. :mad: It burst the first time I used it, and when I tried to return it, they were no help at all:

"Hello, I'd like to make a complaint about the Fuck Me Silly 2 Mega Masturbator™ which I bought from you yesterday"

"What seems to be the problem, sir?"

"Well, the first time I used it, the damn thing went down on me"

"If we'd known that, we'd have charged you an extra €50"

:mad:

RabbleRouser2k

scorching hemorrhoids wrote: »

white knight butthurt he is not getting praise
forever in the friendzone

Ah come on-he's not, he's just noting how 'women are taking the credit' when it's a democracy-it's not.
It wasn't just gay people who legalised gay marriage.

She’s on today fm on Nadine o Reagan’s show with an all female playlist- did she realize about Tupac not being a ‘woke bae’

Sweetemotion

Why didn't she vote?

the purple tin

Dakota Brave Carrot wrote: »

any opportunity to squeeze Paddy Jackson/ulster trial in eh Lou Lou

And her little aside (and yes the jury found them not-guilty) covers her ass legally.
She's not as batty as she likes to let on.

Yer Da sells Avon

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Why didn't she vote?

Hawking her book in the UK, I think.

A lot of people without her resources managed to scrimp and save to make it home from the UK (and further) to vote.

Sweetemotion

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Why didn't she vote?

her mother was busy to drive her to the polling booths probably

the purple tin

the purple tin wrote: »

And her little aside (and yes the jury found them not-guilty) covers her ass legally.
She's not as batty as she likes to let on.

around the time of her show on RTE, she was advised by her publisher/agent to drop the i hate men tagline (cant remember what it was exactly but now its "i love men tm") on her twitter bio after a radio show called her out on it, I Wouldn't be surprised if they told her what she can and cannot say about it

the purple tin

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Hawking her book in the UK, I think.

A lot of people without her resources managed to scrimp and save to make it home from the UK (and further) to vote.

How the fcuk are her minions not pulling her up on this The whole super-feminist act is really just a get rich quick scheme for her and the sooner her fans realise that she's taking them for a ride the better.

the purple tin

the purple tin wrote: »

How the fcuk are her minions not pulling her up on this The whole super-feminist act is really just a get rich quick scheme for her and the sooner her fans realise that she's taking them for a ride the better.

Im sure she made known it was only females she had an appointment/meetings etc with

The blue haired gang will defend her to the death no matter what

Sweetemotion

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Hawking her book in the UK, I think.

A lot of people without her resources managed to scrimp and save to make it home from the UK (and further) to vote.

I'm actually shocked at that.

Reminds me of the Genesis song Jesus he knows me.

Sunny Disposition

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Just when you thought Louise couldn't possibly say anything more irrational than she's already done:



Full article here.

Did a bit of Columbo'ing (aka: Google'ing) and would seem Louise was browsing the following item on the following site (not sure on rules regarding links to such sites so you'll have to cut & paste):

sextoys.ie/shop/fuck-me-silly-2-mega-masturbator-2/

One can't help but wonder why it is that Louise only sees the toys for men as an issue though. I mean surely she gets that large vibrating dildos are objecting the male form and will be similarly used by woman for sexual gratification and then discarded immediately afterwards too.

Personally, I take offense at the Big John Male Doll. What an awful way to portray Outlaws.

playblue.ie/products/big-john-male-doll-with-7-5-vibrating-penis-2-penetrating-holes

Yes, I read that yesterday and thought it was incredible she didn’t see the parallels between the sex dolls and dildos/vibrators. Surely the editor should have made her address it.

Vladimir Poontang

Sue

retro:electro

I can’t beleive she didn’t vote. After the going on of her for the guts of a year acting like she single handedly had a referendum to win that is absolutely deplorably hilarious

hatrickpatrick

I don't know why, but the thought of LoN becoming a man conjures the image of her looking down at her newly obtained weiner, thinking pensively for a moment, and then just breaking out into a full-on meatspin. Probably also chanting "hurrdurrrdurrrrrrrdrrdrrdrr" for added effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo_dcWscP1Q

Sunny Disposition

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Yes, I read that yesterday and thought it was incredible she didn’t see the parallels between the sex dolls and dildos/vibrators. Surely the editor should have made her address it.

Lol, the editor is supposedly her ex (she mentioned it before in an article), its the only way she gets to spout nonsense...they never call out her hypocrisy or her contradicting herself (which she manages to do in nearly every article she does)

mzungu

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Hawking her book in the UK, I think.

A lot of people without her resources managed to scrimp and save to make it home from the UK (and further) to vote.

the purple tin wrote: »

How the fcuk are her minions not pulling her up on this The whole super-feminist act is really just a get rich quick scheme for her and the sooner her fans realise that she's taking them for a ride the better.

I am quite surprised by the above. She only wrote recently (article posted a few pages back) about how it was a legacy of the catholic church and the male dominated past of old (which is true). But to then not bother voting when the time comes to remove it makes little sense to me. Thankfully it was a large Yes, so her vote was not needed. However, up until the exit poll on Friday night, a lot of commentators thought it was going to be a close call. Had it been a No win, then she really could not have written anything about the eighth ever again, or complained about how the patriarchy was keeping her down....when she couldn't be bothered to vote to remove one of the remaining vestiges of actual patriarchy in Ireland!

As another poster said above, it's bloody hilarious!

the purple tin

mzungu wrote: »

I am quite surprised by the above. She only wrote recently (article posted a few pages back) about how it was a legacy of the catholic church and the male dominated past of old (which is true). But to then not bother voting when the time comes to remove it makes little sense to me. Thankfully it was a large Yes, so her vote was not needed. However, up until the exit poll on Friday night, a lot of commentators thought it was going to be a close call. Had it been a No win, then she really could not have written anything about the eighth ever again, or complained about how the patriarchy was keeping her down....when she couldn't be bothered to vote to remove one of the remaining vestiges of actual patriarchy in Ireland!

Surely from a PR point of view alone, a picture of her proudly dropping her ballot into the box splashed all over social media would have been desirable
Christ she really is a fecking joke. Next time somebody tells you they are a fan of LON ask them 'isn't she the feminist who couldn't be arsed to vote on the abortion referendum?'.

freshpopcorn

I have to say if I was a fan I'd be disgusted with her for not voting.
It would be a little like Kilkenny getting to the All-Ireland and Brian Cody going on a holiday!

the purple tin

the purple tin wrote: »

Surely from a PR point of view alone, a picture of her proudly dropping her ballot into the box splashed all over social media would have been desirable
Christ she really is a fecking joke. Next time somebody tells you they are a fan of LON ask them 'isn't she the feminist who couldn't be arsed to vote on the abortion referendum?'.

Its like she's a cult leader for the loons who hang on her every word, i pity those who follow her, hopefully most grow out of it

smurgen

I spotted she hadn't from her twitter feed.a dude asked her if she voted and she didn't reply.some neck on her!