Louise O'Neill on manned mission to Mars: "Why not go to Venus?" (MOD Warning post 1)

kunst nugget

Wibbs wrote: »

Actually I don't. And I say that as someone who would be among the first to call bullsh1t on her worldview. She likely is aware of it as she would be well plugged into social media, but this thread would do her no good.

It's one thing disagreeing with her views or being critical of her prose but this thread is just a cesspit at times. I really wouldn't have the time, energy or inclination to get so riled up by someone that has zero effect on my life.

the_pen_turner

kunst nugget wrote: »

It's one thing disagreeing with her views or being critical of her prose but this thread is just a cesspit at times. I really wouldn't have the time, energy or inclination to get so riled up by someone that has zero effect on my life.

you mightnt see the effcts but they are there.
normalising this behavior does have an effect of what everyday people think is acceptable and true.

Sweetemotion

kunst nugget wrote: »

It's one thing disagreeing with her views or being critical of her prose but this thread is just a cesspit at times. I really wouldn't have the time, energy or inclination to get so riled up by someone that has zero effect on my life.

This argument falls flat when she is being pushed by national media, national radio and national television as someone to listen too.

pumpkin4life

the_pen_turner wrote: »

you mightnt see the effcts but they are there.
normalising this behavior does have an effect of what everyday people think is acceptable and true.

I think it's worse than that.

Why is Louise O Neill so popular among a certain kind of wan?

She is popular among a certain kind of wan because there is, within the culture, this new archetype, as part of the collective unconsciousness has arisen, which we can call the Mary Sue, the perfect wan with the ability to manipulate reality to her bidding. Social media. All truth is relative. The outside force comprised of that evil thing, abstract entity known as the patriarchy or a bunch of giant bastards. See Rey in Star Wars as an example of this. Who needs to follow the hero's journey when you are already there?

This will, I predict, lead to third wave feminism to morph into a sexless, prudent, wan virgin kind of movement, where more and more wans become more childlike and more helpless. Because you need to protect your image as much as possible. That falling in love shìte? We can't be having that now, can we?

Anyone own a doggie playschool busineess? Anyone want to build one? I'd say there's a lot of cash there to be made.

Opposite example of this, the massive success of Francis McD's character in Three Billboards. Maybe that's why that movie struck a nerve with so many people.

Long story short, if you think she's unique amongst wans in her ideas, you haven't been paying attention closely enough and thank you Jordan Peterson for getting me to read some Jung, for sure; that cùnts a wordy bastard, but he's a bucket of wisdom all the same.

kunst nugget

Sweetemotion wrote: »

This argument falls flat when she is being pushed by national media, national radio and national television as someone to listen too.

I only ever hear about her from this thread. I live in a house full of women and none of them has heard of her. It's the Horward Stern effect happening here lads. You're all obsessing with her because she annoys you so much and she ends up having a much bigger impact on your lives than if you just took a deep breath, exhaled and got on with something a bit more productive - trust me, if didn't spend your time selling her out, you'd hear very little about her. Spending your time relentlessly slagging someone off seems like an awful waste of energy.

kunst nugget

kunst nugget wrote: »

Spending your time relentlessly slagging someone off seems like an awful waste of energy.

?????

Sweetemotion

kunst nugget wrote: »

I only ever hear about her from this thread. I live in a house full of women and none of them has heard of her. It's the Horward Stern effect happening here lads. You're all obsessing with her because she annoys you so much and she ends up having a much bigger impact on your lives than if you just took a deep breath, exhaled and got on with something a bit more productive - trust me, if didn't spend your time selling her out, you'd hear very little about her. Spending your time relentlessly slagging someone off seems like an awful waste of energy.

Nobody is obsessing by her or having to take a deep breath to get a bit more productive.

You typing all that is an awful waste of your energy and your time.

kunst nugget

kunst nugget wrote: »

I only ever hear about her from this thread. I live in a house full of women and none of them has heard of her. It's the Horward Stern effect happening here lads. You're all obsessing with her because she annoys you so much and she ends up having a much bigger impact on your lives than if you just took a deep breath, exhaled and got on with something a bit more productive - trust me, if didn't spend your time selling her out, you'd hear very little about her. Spending your time relentlessly slagging someone off seems like an awful waste of energy.

Or perhaps its high time the Irish people actually demanded more from the national mainstream media then this bias and farce they have become. Giving this idiot a voice would be fair enough but the Examiner wouldnt be as quick to allow a contrasting and critical view of her on the same rag at the same time. They've nailed their colours to the mast and their editor is a pathetic joke.

RabbleRouser2k

El Amerimutt wrote: »

Yeah well imagine an MRA or white nationalist writing for national paper, they'd be getting the same abuse.

Kevin Myers was fired, and he was as close to an MRA you'd get. Ian O'Doherty is another one who's published quite a bit, but is he an MRA? I'm not so sure ridiculing feminism is MRA. It's just logical, tbh.
I don't see much of a line between Myers and O'Neill, the only difference was Myers went anti-semetic, while LON goes anti-white.

Wibbs wrote: »

I have found this goes for any overly fervently held social-political mindset, Left, Right, in, out, shake it all about, from "feminist" to "red pill", it's almost always either a control thing(in the minority) or(in the majority) a mental crutch to explain the world in ways the person feels safest in dealing with.

I remember sort of going down that 'this is why your life is crap' mentality many moons ago, and yeah, sometimes people look to blame society, but often times it's the worst ****iest luck in life. I'm open, on here, about my mental illness problems-and tbh, much of that is crap luck and lousy genetics. But you either keep living, or become a statistic.

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

God help the mug who ends up marrying this whackjob

I'd be very surprised if she ever marries, tbh. I've known a few young women who do the 'Oh, I can't find a man because 'insert excuse here'...when really its because no guy is interested.
They've got more issues than a comic book collector.

Wonder what LON would make of this.

Record number of women are being convicted of sex crimes as the total found guilty doubles and the number of teachers grooming pupils shoots up

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5465541/Record-number-women-convicted-sex-crimes-Britain.html

And this is funny-tho tho not if you're LON. (Cos it's probably her thinking).

_Dara_

kunst nugget wrote: »

I only ever hear about her from this thread. I live in a house full of women and none of them has heard of her. It's the Horward Stern effect happening here lads. You're all obsessing with her because she annoys you so much and she ends up having a much bigger impact on your lives than if you just took a deep breath, exhaled and got on with something a bit more productive - trust me, if didn't spend your time selling her out, you'd hear very little about her. Spending your time relentlessly slagging someone off seems like an awful waste of energy.

Careful now, I was accused of being a fan of hers for making exactly this point. You’re totally right, of course. Same, boards.ie is the only place I hear about her. I’ve never heard her name uttered by any of my female friends and relations. Or male for that matter. Nobody in real life ever.

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Nobody is obsessing by her or having to take a deep breath to get a bit more productive.

You typing all that is an awful waste of your energy and your time.

A post that probably took five minutes to write, at most? Don’t be glib.

RabbleRouser2k

_Dara_ wrote: »

Careful now, I was accused of being a fan of hers for making exactly this point. You’re totally right, of course. Same, boards.ie is the only place I hear about her. I’ve never heard her name uttered by any of my female friends and relations. Or male for that matter. Nobody in real life ever.

That's strange, in that I have heard quite a few young women who espouse the same drek as Lon and co. Including the usual thing about 'pay inequality' and then coming out with some questionable comments on transgender folks.

Many of these ladies are in their late teens, early 20s. And remember, there were women at the 'anti-slut' ucd march.

It's not isolated. Far from it. I've seen and heard it in my own life.

_Dara_

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

That's strange, in that I have heard quite a few young women who espouse the same drek as Lon and co. Including the usual thing about 'pay inequality' and then coming out with some questionable comments on transgender folks.

Many of these ladies are in their late teens, early 20s. And remember, there were women at the 'anti-slut' ucd march.

It's not isolated. Far from it. I've seen and heard it in my own life.

What are you finding strange about what I’ve said?

drugstore cowboy

buried wrote: »

Neither should be listened to. That outlandish grim sentence proves that nobody should be listening to this person, bar a professional, until they sort their $hit out.

She's in therapy and had to point out on twitter that her therapist is a woman

I had a doctor's appointment (woman), therapy (woman), and a conference call with producer & director of #OnlyEverYours movie (both women)

https://twitter.com/oneilllo/status/839495708608712705

Jesus, it's almost bordering on hate speech..

sydthebeat

kunst nugget wrote: »

I only ever hear about her from this thread. I live in a house full of women and none of them has heard of her. It's the Horward Stern effect happening here lads. You're all obsessing with her because she annoys you so much and she ends up having a much bigger impact on your lives than if you just took a deep breath, exhaled and got on with something a bit more productive - trust me, if didn't spend your time selling her out, you'd hear very little about her. Spending your time relentlessly slagging someone off seems like an awful waste of energy.

She's a three time published author.... She isn't some nobody YouTuber. She also writes for a national newspaper frequently.

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

She's a three time published author.... She isn't some nobody YouTuber. She also writes for a national newspaper frequently.

I love how if I haven’t heard her, she isn’t popular - I haven’t heard most of those who top the music charts - it doesn’t mean they’re not popular

RabbleRouser2k

_Dara_ wrote: »

What are you finding strange about what I’ve said?

That you haven't heard it, I was saying I have.

Sweetemotion

drugstore cowboy wrote: »

She's in therapy and had to point out on twitter that her therapist is a woman



https://twitter.com/oneilllo/status/839495708608712705

That was her excuse for not attending the repeal the 8th march last year after telling all her followers for weeks that, she would see them there.

I bet she had no doctors appointment at all that day.

neonsofa

drugstore cowboy wrote: »

She's in therapy and had to point out on twitter that her therapist is a woman

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In fairness to her, she was pointing out that those professionals were women because rather than being at the women's march or striking like other women she was in the presence of other women in their professional capacity rather than men. That reasoning doesn't really make all that much sense to me either but my point is (i think!) that it wasn't just posted out of context saying she only ever interacts with women or only women therapists are good or something as ridiculous as that.

professore

meeeeh wrote: »

Because I'm not that good with young kids abd because I like to go to work. As for positive difference to humanity, many people are making a difference. Some in healthcare, many in other professions including private sector, even banks. Why would you single out healthcare? There are good and useless people employed there like in any sector. I don't think I make a difference at all to the humanity but I would like to think we treat our employees fairly and with decency. That is enough for me, I don't need a sainthood to excuse sending kids to chilminder/creche.

Not singling out healthcare, just using it as an example. And I'm not saying you need a sainthood or anything. I'm not even criticising you. Not saying you are right or wrong, I'm just trying to understand your viewpoint.

My wife and I run a business together - our kids are older now, when they were younger she stopped working in a well paid, male dominated and specialised field to mind them. For her it was agony to put our eldest into a creche every morning. I didn't like it myself either. I think our kids benefitted hugely from having her raise them. However many women treated her like some brain dead "homemaker" - with more contempt and assumptions than any man treated her in in her career. Quite bizarre to see.

We like what we do and are passionate about it but to us it is ultimately a means to an end rather than an end in itself. The kids come first - not in a spoiled brat way but in a priority way. We have turned down lucrative contracts because it would mean long hours away from the kids.

By the way I am not looking for medals either or the moral high ground. I don't care at all for that rubbish.

However that's us. You are you. If on your deathbed you look back with pride on the time you spent in the office then good for you. It's just not how we are wired.

facehugger99

Sweetemotion wrote: »

This argument falls flat when she is being pushed by national media, national radio and national television as someone to listen too.

Never heard of her until this thread - you must be actively seeking her out if you find she's being pushed by the media.

TomSweeney

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

God help the mug who ends up marrying this whackjob

He'll be a total cuck pussy with no bollix anyway ...

TomSweeney

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

I really hope she is reading this thread

But it's just full of hateful trolls you see ?

:rolleyes:

TomSweeney

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Louise was complaining about the use of the word "scumbag" to describe what's popularly known as a scumbag. She referred to it as classist language. If you read between the lines that says quite a bit about her.

Was that just because some of the guys doing this were black ??

F*cking idiot!!

Sweetemotion

facehugger99 wrote: »

Never heard of her until this thread - you must be actively seeking her out if you find she's being pushed by the media.

That was on her other thread on boards No seeking her out was done. I was just reading after hours the same as yourself just now.

TomSweeney

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

And this is funny-tho tho not if you're LON. (Cos it's probably her thinking).

Very funny - only because it's actually a true reflection of modern "feminism" ...

TomSweeney

drugstore cowboy wrote: »

She's in therapy and had to point out on twitter that her therapist is a woman



https://twitter.com/oneilllo/status/839495708608712705

Says a lot that she HAS to explicity point out that they are all women.

We get it Louise ... Women are great !!!

Omackeral

TomSweeney wrote: »

He'll be a total cuck pussy with no bollix anyway ...

What’s your obsession with bolloxes bolloxii?

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057848405/1/

pilly

professore wrote: »

Not singling out healthcare, just using it as an example. And I'm not saying you need a sainthood or anything. I'm not even criticising you. Not saying you are right or wrong, I'm just trying to understand your viewpoint.

My wife and I run a business together - our kids are older now, when they were younger she stopped working in a well paid, male dominated and specialised field to mind them. For her it was agony to put our eldest into a creche every morning. I didn't like it myself either. I think our kids benefitted hugely from having her raise them. However many women treated her like some brain dead "homemaker" - with more contempt and assumptions than any man treated her in in her career. Quite bizarre to see.

We like what we do and are passionate about it but to us it is ultimately a means to an end rather than an end in itself. The kids come first - not in a spoiled brat way but in a priority way. We have turned down lucrative contracts because it would mean long hours away from the kids.

By the way I am not looking for medals either or the moral high ground. I don't care at all for that rubbish.

However that's us. You are you. If on your deathbed you look back with pride on the time you spent in the office then good for you. It's just not how we are wired.

Had to throw in that sly dig didn't you? Nasty.

DavidLyons_

pilly wrote: »

Had to throw in that sly dig didn't you? Nasty.

Or maybe just a genuine observation about each individual's priorities, goals and ambitions in life.

I'd say it's fair enough that if you believe that you'll be in a position where you can look back on your life with satisfaction, no matter what your choices then good for you.

Maybe that's all professore was getting at. No need for accusations.