Louise O'Neill on manned mission to Mars: "Why not go to Venus?" (MOD Warning post 1)

RabbleRouser2k

Has she said anything about this?https://www.thesun.ie/news/2291159/telford-child-abuse-ring-horrors-of-britains-worst-ever-grooming-scandal-revealed-with-up-to-1000-kids-drugged-and-abused/

LLMMLL

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Has she said anything about this?https://www.thesun.ie/news/2291159/telford-child-abuse-ring-horrors-of-britains-worst-ever-grooming-scandal-revealed-with-up-to-1000-kids-drugged-and-abused/

No. Why would she?

RabbleRouser2k

LLMMLL wrote: »

No. Why would she?

It's just over the pond, so to speak-I mean, right next door. Actual rape and grooming, but I guess she won't comment because they're not 'cisgendered white men'.

Saw this-couldn't help but think of the fear mongering LON puts out.

soiseztomabel

Ould Rosemary is off pandering for a a few of those all important Twitter loves and re-shares

I do this SO OFTEN. When the #latelate is on I search the hashtag for people being nasty assholes and block furiously. It’s very cathartic.

givyjoe

LLMMLL wrote: »

No I have a problem with people criticising her for things that have nothing to do with her views. If you haven't done that (I'm not gonna check) then I've no issue with you. It's pretty simple

Well it really wasn't simple from the wording of your post, hence the question. Pretty clear why I was asking.

razorblunt

soiseztomabel wrote: »

Ould Rosemary is off pandering for a a few of those all important Twitter loves and re-shares

I do this SO OFTEN. When the #latelate is on I search the hashtag for people being nasty assholes and block furiously. It’s very cathartic.

So she goes looking to be made angry?
Ok so.

Ubbquittious

I wonder does Louise ever go on the lash in Clon, go for a paddle in Lough Hyne or do anything else that might resemble craic or is it just non-stop giving out about men every spare minute she gets?

Ralf and Florian

Lon retweeted this. I hope this wan is never let on a jury.


https://twitter.com/Lana_Richardson/status/971422074563710978

Hector Savage

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Has she said anything about this?https://www.thesun.ie/news/2291159/telford-child-abuse-ring-horrors-of-britains-worst-ever-grooming-scandal-revealed-with-up-to-1000-kids-drugged-and-abused/

Nope, doesn't fit her agenda.

LON is more offended by Irish men whistling and cat calling girls -then actual rape and murder commited by men that happen to have a slightly different skin pigmentation.

disgusting person

wakka12

LLMMLL wrote: »

No. Why would she?

Because its an important feminist issue and she's a feminist so presumably it would be an important matter to her than much less pressing feminist issues she bangs on about constantly

Ulysses Gaze

meeeeh wrote: »

Oh dear. Would you really think you came up there with something worth explaining. NO I don't think that the intention and it doesn't matter what intention was. The fact is interference doesn't work.

As for FGM and Selim, even the Muslim organizations distanced and rebuffed his statements. There was no public support, Trinity had to provide another lecturer for a subject which is completely unrelated to fgm because Ali Selim teaches it. Maybe it didn't make your fb feed or whatever tabloid you are reading but it was condemned by virtually everyone. I for example didn't state anything about it because there were already so many outraged it would be completely redundant. In the same way as I usually don't comment on your friend in White House and his stupidity.

Just because you have your knickers in a twist over Muslims it doesn't mean everyone else is preoccupied with a religion that has so little significance or influence on most people in Ireland.

FGM is not isolated to Islam so I have no idea why you think I have a problem with Muslims. I have a problem with FGM being practiced on little girls because it is barbaric. I also happen to think that the practice of circumcision on little boys is barbaric as well.

Yes, Ali Selim was roundly condemned. But not by one of the most vocal and visible feminists of the day. Which was my point. Louise O'Neill will spew bile at white men and the patriarchy in Ireland. Will tweet and retweet her outrage about the Ulster Rugby trial and George Hook. She'll compare Ireland to Gilead. But when it comes to an issue on her doorstep like FGM....

The rest of your post is just an Ad-Hominem attack full of baseless assumptions.

But that is not surprising.

soiseztomabel

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

FGM is not isolated to Islam so I have no idea why you think I have a problem with Muslims. I have a problem with FGM being practiced on little girls because it is barbaric. I also happen to think that the practice of circumcision on little boys is barbaric as well.

Yes, Ali Selim was roundly condemned. But not by one of the most vocal and visible feminists of the day. Which was my point. Louise O'Neill will spew bile at white men and the patriarchy in Ireland. Will tweet and retweet her outrage about the Ulster Rugby trial and George Hook. She'll compare Ireland to Gilead. But when it comes to an issue on her doorstep like FGM....

The rest of your post is just an Ad-Hominem attack full of baseless assumptions.

But that is not surprising.

Selim isn't white enough. The last thing she needs is to deviate away from the narrative she's tethered to which is "white male rabble rabble, patriarchy rabble rabble"

It's not exclusive to her, it seems that the majority of the Irish bloggers are ignoring this type of issue, very strange considering their pro woman grandstanding.

meeeeh

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I never said he should be applauded and I never said muslims are dirty.

Why are you complaining then that there are protests against him? Should women stay quiet about a president who encourages a bit of sexual violence. They should protest against stuff in other countries but they should be quiet about stuff that is going on in their own country because Trump was elected? What exactly are you saying?

meeeeh

soiseztomabel wrote: »

Selim isn't white enough. The last thing she needs is to deviate away from the narrative she's tethered to which is "white male rabble rabble, patriarchy rabble rabble"

It's not exclusive to her, it seems that the majority of the Irish bloggers are ignoring this type of issue, very strange considering their pro woman grandstanding.

Should we also state now that we are against slavery? Or arranged marriages. There are some issues that are so culturally unacceptable that it is completely redundant to say anything. The exception would be male circumcision which is still relatively acceptable practice but for the other stuff is inferred that people are against it and it is also illegal. How much grandstanding can you do about stuff that is illegal anyway?

Outlaw Pete

meeeeh wrote: »

Should women stay quiet about a president who encourages a bit of sexual violence.

He didn't encourage sexual violence ffs. He said that there are some women who 'LET' famous men do anything to them, and there are, groupies and the like. Are men not supposed to make fun of these women? Are they some sort of scared cow or something?

That whole episode was blown out of all proportion.... and continues to be.

ohnonotgmail

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He didn't encourage sexual violence ffs. He said that there are some women who 'LET' famous men do anything to them, and there are, groupies and the like. Are men not supposed to make fun of these women? Are they some sort of scared cow or something?

That whole episode was blown out of all proportion.... and continues to be.

His definition of "let" is "they dont actively try to stop me". A definition i'm sure you share.

Outlaw Pete

When did he say that? Do you have a link. Or are you making it up?

Hector Savage

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He didn't encourage sexual violence ffs. He said that there are some women who 'LET' famous men do anything to them, and there are, groupies and the like. Are men not supposed to make fun of these women? Are they some sort of scared cow or something?

That whole episode was blown out of all proportion.... and continues to be.

I'm continually amazed by peoples willingness to be misled with what Trump said.

He was being crude and absurd - but thats it ABSURD !!! Absurd things is what makes them "funny" - not to everyones taste but still HUMOUR and NOT TRUE.

I live in a city where the police force is a bit of a joke, sometimes I say to people... "here in XXX you could just go out and shoot someone dead on the street, you'd get away with it"

Apply the same logic and Hector condones murder ... Hector boasts about murder ....

People want to believe it, just to give them more ammo against this orange clown (but still better then Hillary)

LLMMLL

wakka12 wrote: »

Because its an important feminist issue and she's a feminist so presumably it would be an important matter to her than much less pressing feminist issues she bangs on about constantly

Her novels are about date rape and abuse within a relationship. Her tweets focus on interactions between men and women in developed nations. I might get your point if her books and tweets were about paedophilia and prostitution and sex rings but they're not. She's being orderly consistent. The opposite of hypocritical.

deaddonkey15

meeeeh wrote: »

Why are you complaining then that there are protests against him? Should women stay quiet about a president who encourages a bit of sexual violence. They should protest against stuff in other countries but they should be quiet about stuff that is going on in their own country because Trump was elected? What exactly are you saying?

There were womens marches at various locations around the world, including Dublin, in response to his election (where, as I said, a lot of women actually voted for him) and his remarks about grabbing women. These were encouraged and supported by people like Louise O'Neill, who has had plenty to say on issues in other countries when it suits her.

Personally, I thought the international marches were unbelievably over the top considering the horrific abuses that women suffer in other parts of the world but of course western feminists like O'Neill will happily turn a blind eye to that. Was there any march encouraged or tweet/article of support from western feminists for the Iranian women's protests recently?

Furthermore, as I pointed out already, Louise O'Neill isn't just discussing (making up) issues here. She's had plenty to say on women's issues in the US, but very little to say on women's issues in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. Seems very selective for someone who describes herself as a feminist in my opinion.

meeeeh wrote: »

Should we also state now that we are against slavery? Or arranged marriages. There are some issues that are so culturally unacceptable that it is completely redundant to say anything. The exception would be male circumcision which is still relatively acceptable practice but for the other stuff is inferred that people are against it and it is also illegal. How much grandstanding can you do about stuff that is illegal anyway?

Exactly. Yet O'Neill is well able to harp on about us living in a rape culture here in Ireland when in reality, we don't.

Hector Savage

And to suggest there is a "rape culture" in Ireland is so insulting to actual rape victims.
And she's on Ray Darcy today to spout more of her bile ..

garbo speaks

Hector Savage wrote: »

And to suggest there is a "rape culture" in Ireland is so insulting to actual rape victims.
And she's on Ray Darcy today to spout more of her bile ..

"Rape culture" is a meaningless, sensationalist leftist term. To seriously suggest that the ideas, customs, and social behavior of our society in Ireland has a "rape culture" is complete and utter nonsense.

I think it would be more fair to say we have a "cake culture". Every time I am in town, I see cakes on the windows of cafes and other bakeries. I see cake magazines in our newsagents. I smell cakes being made whenever I visit my grandmother. I see cakes on the dessert menus of restaurants. I hear people talk about and take photos of tasty cakes on social media.

pilly

I watched the LLS on Friday night and it's genuinely the first time ever I've seen this girl.

I was expecting an absolute lunatic the way people are going on here and someone who would be dangerous to young girls.

I saw nothing but a very boring self obsessed woman, harmless because no-one with an ounce of intelligence would be listening to that.

I asked my daughter what she thought too and she just said "no idea what she's ****eing on about".

_Dara_

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He didn't encourage sexual violence ffs. He said that there are some women who 'LET' famous men do anything to them, and there are, groupies and the like.

Well, he appeared to be categorising Arianne Zucker, who he was about to meet, as one of those women.

The full quote, in which he starts talking about her is:

"I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."

It's quite presumptuous. What did he know about this woman?

givyjoe

pilly wrote: »

I watched the LLS on Friday night and it's genuinely the first time ever I've seen this girl.

I was expecting an absolute lunatic the way people are going on here and someone who would be dangerous to young girls.

I saw nothing but a very boring self obsessed woman, harmless because no-one with an ounce of intelligence would be listening to that.

I asked my daughter what she thought too and she just said "no idea what she's ****eing on about".

Ok, well perhaps have a look at her documentary 'Asking for it' (think that was the name) and see if still think she isn't 'dangerous' to young girls or boys.

Are you seriously telling me you have haven't seen any of the outrageous sh1t she's said, which has been quoted numerous times on this thread (and again recently)?

Others who are more informed on her 'lunatic' ramblings can give more examples, but statements such as 'all men are potential rapists' aren't exactly harmless, whatever about being dangerous.

If you want further examples of her craziness, have a look at her appearance on the Tommy Tiernan show, specifically her comments/views on consent.

garbo speaks

givyjoe wrote: »

Others who are more informed on her 'lunatic' ramblings can give more examples, but statements such as 'all men are potential rapists' aren't exactly harmless, whatever about being dangerous.

She also made the point in one of her articles that woman cannot be sexist towards men, because the institutions of the world are in men's favour.

pilly

givyjoe wrote: »

Ok, well perhaps have a look at her documentary 'Asking for it' (think that was the name) and see if still think she isn't 'dangerous' to young girls or boys.

Are you seriously telling me you have haven't seen any of the outrageous sh1t she's said, which has been quoted numerous times on this thread (and again recently)?

Others who are more informed on her 'lunatic' ramblings can give more examples, but statements such as 'all men are potential rapists' aren't exactly harmless, whatever about being dangerous.

If you want further examples of her craziness, have a look at her appearance on the Tommy Tiernan show, specifically her comments/views on consent.

As I've already said, she bored me senseless, I certainly wouldn't be sitting through a documentary just so I could find out how crazy she is.

givyjoe

pilly wrote: »

As I've already said, she bored me senseless, I certainly wouldn't be sitting through a documentary just so I could find out how crazy she is.

Right, so you think she probably is crazy but aren't arsed finding out. Fair enough.

You could literally just read the quotes of her views in the last couple of posts

freshpopcorn

givyjoe wrote: »

Right, so you think she probably is crazy but aren't arsed finding out. Fair enough.

You could literally just read the quotes of her views in the last couple of posts

The one thing I don't like is the woman a lot of the Irish media presents her views as the only option.

pilly

givyjoe wrote: »

Right, so you think she probably is crazy but aren't arsed finding out. Fair enough.

You could literally just read the quotes of her views in the last couple of posts

I've read most of the posts in this thread.

What I'm disagreeing with is people saying that she's dangerous and will corrupt young girls. It's just not true.