Louise O'Neill on manned mission to Mars: "Why not go to Venus?" (MOD Warning post 1)

DavidLyons_

For Forks Sake wrote: »

garbo speaks wrote: »

I would love if Louise was taken to court on defamation or libel charges based on the vitriolic tripe she spouts. I bet she'd want her fair trial then, though. Having said that however, I'm sure her deluded followers would turn her the Irish Rosa Parks online.

She may get her day out yet.

Jackson to sue Labour senator over alleged defamatory tweet

Love it.

This witch hunt is a disgrace. If the verdict had gone the other way and people took to the streets and social media calling the girl a liar can you imagine the reaction?

O'Riordan's tweet was a disgrace, so too are Coveney's comments on the front of the Independent today.

Being a scummy, thoughtless, inconsiderate cnut is not a crime. So the lads were acquitted. Good job too, otherwise O'Neill and her ilk would also all be locked up.

LLMMLL

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Why should we doubt his version of events? Other than the fact he is a man I mean.






Oh, so even though they've been found not guilty, you're still and all going to chastise those who believe certain elements of their story?

Yet again another clear example of why we need anonymity for the accused in such trials.

How can you believe their story when it's incredibly obvious that their story is made up? Blaine mcilroy gave the wrong made up version. He gave the exact same account as Stuart olding. It's pretty much impossible that he did this unless they got together the next day and discussed who was going to say what. You don't have to believe her version but there's clear evidence the guys are lying.

freshpopcorn

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Love it.

This witch hunt is a disgrace. If the verdict had gone the other way and people took to the streets and social media calling the girl a liar can you imagine the reaction?

O'Riordan's tweet was a disgrace, so too are Coveney's comments on the front of the Independent today.

Being a scummy, thoughtless, inconsiderate cnut is not a crime. So the lads were acquitted. Good job too, otherwise O'Neill and her ilk would also all be locked up.

What did Coveney say?

LLMMLL

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wonder will she face similar attitudes in finding work? After all, she was proven to be unreliable as a witness. Honesty/trust being something that most employers look in a professional employee.

Somehow I doubt it. The degree of double standards regarding the genders is just... meh!

She wasn't actually particularly unreliable as a witness. There are two issues on her end that have been presented as unreliable. Her account to a doctor of what Stuart olding did and when she mentioned the female witness walking in.

You're basically comparing someone who may have been raped talking to a doctor not making an official statement less than 24 hours after the possible rape, only a few hours after deciding to make a complaint.

As for not mentioning the female witness, she did mention her as they were leaving the interview room and the police decided not to extend the interview that day but to follow up another day.

Do you really believe these two "inconsistencies" were similar to what the defendants did? Remember that blaine.mcilroy mimicked Stuart olding story almost 100% admitted to things that even the complainant did not accuse him of.

Basically the complainant had an inconsistency when telling her story to a civilian less than 24 hrs after the incident.

ChikiChiki

Id say the odds are short on her being served with notice of proceedings before the day is out.

pumpkin4life

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/una-mullally-decent-men-are-despondent-the-men-i-know-are-livid-1.3445553

Can the Irish Times be sued as a matter of interest?

LLMMLL

pumpkin4life wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/una-mullally-decent-men-are-despondent-the-men-i-know-are-livid-1.3445553

Can the Irish Times be sued as a matter of interest?

Based on what? Mullally says nothing there that she could be sued for.

For Forks Sake

pumpkin4life wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/una-mullally-decent-men-are-despondent-the-men-i-know-are-livid-1.3445553

Can the Irish Times be sued as a matter of interest?

If it was possible to prosecute for crimes against journalism, Mullally would've been charged years ago

pumpkin4life

LLMMLL wrote: »

Based on what? Mullally says nothing there that she could be sued for.

A pumpkin can dream.

deaddonkey15

For Forks Sake wrote: »

If it was possible to prosecute for crimes against journalism, Mullally would've been charged years ago

We'd need to build an Alcatraz out in the Irish sea. O'Neill, Mullally, and anyone working for the likes of joe and her.ie in the maximum security wing.

DavidLyons_

freshpopcorn wrote: »

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Love it.

This witch hunt is a disgrace. If the verdict had gone the other way and people took to the streets and social media calling the girl a liar can you imagine the reaction?

O'Riordan's tweet was a disgrace, so too are Coveney's comments on the front of the Independent today.

Being a scummy, thoughtless, inconsiderate cnut is not a crime. So the lads were acquitted. Good job too, otherwise O'Neill and her ilk would also all be locked up.

What did Coveney say?

"The Belfast rape trial will have a “chill factor” for victims who are considering coming forward, Simon Coveney said in the Dáil yesterday.

The tánaiste moved to reassure any rape complainants in the Republic that cases in Irish courts “would not and could not” have played out the same way as the trial of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding. Mr Coveney raised concerns that, as a result, people would be put off coming forward or making complaints about alleged abuse owing to the misgivings about the trial."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/rape-trial-will-have-a-chill-factor-on-victims-0lwmbr8qj

Captain Obvious

pumpkin4life wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/una-mullally-decent-men-are-despondent-the-men-i-know-are-livid-1.3445553

Can the Irish Times be sued as a matter of interest?

For what?

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

"The Belfast rape trial will have a “chill factor” for victims who are considering coming forward, Simon Coveney said in the Dáil yesterday.

The tánaiste moved to reassure any rape complainants in the Republic that cases in Irish courts “would not and could not” have played out the same way as the trial of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding. Mr Coveney raised concerns that, as a result, people would be put off coming forward or making complaints about alleged abuse owing to the misgivings about the trial."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/rape-trial-will-have-a-chill-factor-on-victims-0lwmbr8qj

I don't think he is referring to the verdict. I think he is referring to the cross examination.

meeeeh

LLMMLL wrote: »

Based on what? Mullally says nothing there that she could be sued for.

I'm often not fan of her writting but this one is excellent and spot on.

Outlaw Pete

"In a much broader context, we need to put misogyny on trial. "

:rolleyes:

deaddonkey15

She's planning a hen party in Kinsale now. It would be interesting to see what double standards arise out of that.

For Forks Sake

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

She's planning a hen party in Kinsale now. It would be interesting to see what double standards arise out of that.

It'll either be the worlds dullest or most hypocritical hen party.

freshpopcorn

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

She's planning a hen party in Kinsale now. It would be interesting to see what double standards arise out of that.

I know somebody from outside Clonakility and lets put it this way she doesn't lead by Louise's example. She's more of a fifty shades of grey woman.

retro:electro

I’m all for calling her out on the shiite she writes but surely she can plan a bloody hen party without it getting analysed? She can’t fart in peace

freshpopcorn

retro:electro wrote: »

I’m all for calling her out on the shiite she writes but surely she can plan a bloody hen party without it getting analysed? She can’t fart in peace

To be honest I think people just like taking the piss out of her on this thread apart from her fans.

The Rape of Lucretia

retro:electro wrote: »

I’m all for calling her out on the shiite she writes but surely she can plan a bloody hen party without it getting analysed?

I dont think use of the gender biased 'hen' party is acceptable anymore. 'Bird' Party, or 'Domestic Fowl' Party are considered the more acceptable terms for such an event these days.

Jim Bob Scratcher

It is a Keep safe party

RabbleRouser2k

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

We'd need to build an Alcatraz out in the Irish sea. O'Neill, Mullally, and anyone working for the likes of joe and her.ie in the maximum security wing.

Now now, there was some very good coverage by one reporter on joe.ie. She covered the intricacies of the case, the evidence and so on, in a neutral, non-biased account.
As all great journos should.

It was a rarity, for sure, but yeah. Her.ie is talking about the 'suemepaddy' hashtag.It's stoking the flames.

Mullally's article was actually pretty well written-no guy would defend what those idiot's wrote (A broken clock can be right twice a day-she's using logic this time). Even teens would be disgusted to hear that crap.

I mean, Jackson is a guy who's clearly shown he's not fit for the jersey.

Case in point-this.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/ulster-rugby-players-wear-black-makeup-in-ethiopian-photo-paddy-jackson-dressed-as-slave-30424197.html

backspin.

The guys might end up having to go to France or something for their rugby. Hard to see them getting back into it here or in England.

pleas advice

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

I dont think use of the gender biased 'hen' party is acceptable anymore. 'Bird' Party, or 'Domestic Fowl' Party are considered the more acceptable terms for such an event these days.

The Poultry Party?

RabbleRouser2k

backspin. wrote: »

The guys might end up having to go to France or something for their rugby. Hard to see them getting back into it here or in England.

Well, the guys have shown they're kind of a nightmare, tbh. Whether you believe the result of the trial or not, the problem they have is that when in the limelight, whether sports or entertainment, you have to be an ambassador for your country. Would the likes of Johnathan Sexton or Paul O'Connell don blackface, or get involved in a rather ugly situation(s)?

I doubt it-they've shown they don't.

The language used by the 4 guys, in my eyes, was their third strike. It showed they are incredibly unprofessional and ungentlemanly.
GAA players are held to a high standard (Case in point, a Laois player was dropped from the team for a tweet), a boxer was banned from competing for four years for doping. These guy's didn't exercise good judgement.
It would be impossible to see them back playing for Ireland.

retro:electro

retro:electro wrote: »

I’m all for calling her out on the shiite she writes but surely she can plan a bloody hen party without it getting analysed? She can’t fart in peace

To be honest, considering the awful crap that she has released... I'm all for anybody that wants to analyse her to the extremes... It's not as if she has kept many boundaries of decency in her holy quest against the male Gender.

pumpkin4life

pumpkin4life wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/una-mullally-decent-men-are-despondent-the-men-i-know-are-livid-1.3445553

Can the Irish Times be sued as a matter of interest?

As a matter of principle, of course they can. But they'd need to publish something defamatory. There's nothing untrue in that article from what I can see.

You'd feel sorry for whatever poor bastard rocks up to that hen party as a stripper..I'd say he'll be violated..

pjohnson

freshpopcorn wrote: »

To be honest I think people just like taking the piss out of her on this thread apart from her fans.

They get awfully triggered when she is mocked.

Must be like the 70's or something if someone mocked god the outrage it causes.

paw patrol

retro:electro wrote: »

I’m all for calling her out on the shiite she writes but surely she can plan a bloody hen party without it getting analysed? She can’t fart in peace

I kinda agree but she brings it on herself.
She would be the first to lament the state of society based on analysing a stag night.
Judge not lest we be judged yourself and the rest