Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443554#Comment_121443554

Yes if 30,000 per month just from a podcast is pitiful....

That's a fairly Conservative 0.01 percent conversion rate. I'd assume its more.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443683#Comment_121443683

I seriously doubt he’s making €30k a month from podcasts. But fair play if he is.

onrail

Am I going insane, or is .01% of 1,000,000, times €3 not €300?

Anyway, if he's making good money, he's well entitled to it.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443335#Comment_121443335

You said 'do the maths'. I did.

0.01% is one ten thousandth. (It's one hundredth of one hundredth). One ten thousandth of a million is one hundred. Multiply that one hundred by three euro, that's €300 per month. Or about one tenth average industrial wage IIRC.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443769#Comment_121443769

Cmon lads... over a million listeners per podcast. Conservative. 0.01 percent of those listener's is 10,000 people , 10,000 people giving a cup of coffee or pint price let's go Conservative again that's 3 euro. 3 euro times 10000 people is 30000 euro . Times 12 months.

And advertising promos aren't Included in that.

magicbastarder

No, 0.01% of a million is one hundred. This is basic maths.

I think you mean 'one percent'. You are writing '0.01 percent' which is one hundredth on one percent.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443799#Comment_121443799

If you’re a patreon member you can look up how much he earns. Here’s the top 50, he’s not on here. No.40 earns $27k a month

https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-earners

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443822#Comment_121443822

That's by public earnings. Its not patreon company data though is it ?

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443832#Comment_121443832

https://graphtreon.com/creator/theblindboypodcast

according to that he earns feck all.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443819#Comment_121443819

You are correct.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443834#Comment_121443834

Those stats are over 3 years old. He didn't have remotely the amount of listeners then. So they're pretty faulty and out of date.

magicbastarder

how many people outside ireland listen to him? has he ever mentioned?

i suspect the figures of a million are quite inflated; how do they count a listen? is it someone listening to an episode for over five minutes, say? or even one minute? you can be damn sure it's not a count of the number of listens to an entire episode that made it all the way to the end.

for example; i listened to an episode recently in fits and starts. got about a minute in and something distracted me, and then i started again and listened to it in probably three stints. is that counted as a single listen, or three, or four?

if half his listenership were in ireland, and we were to take the claim of one million at face value - that's one tenth of the population listening to him. to compare, RTE claim that 872,000 people watched the all ireland football final in 2022.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444153#Comment_121444153

Majority of listeners are not in this country.

His book went number 1 in the UK. Doesn't happen for randomers

Ash.J.Williams

I released two singles during the summer and will treat myself to a pint out of the 7.50 I've earned from streaming 😂😂

Just don't tell the band or ill have to split 5 ways

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444153#Comment_121444153

I think it was a couple years ago he was saying that he his podcast had been listened to 30M times. And that was around the time of his 200 episode if I remember correctly.

I could be about by a couple million people or something and have the number of episodes wrong as well but I remember thinking it probably equated to about 100K-150K listeners per episode.

I know in Covid he was talking about the impact in losing gigs and that he effectively needed those to stay above water and while you wouldn't blame him if he's a bit economical with the truth there, I'd say the idea that he's making a killing from this is more imagination than reality.

He has said that his Rubber Bandits partner, Mr Chrome, has a 'real job', if this was easy money, you'd image he'd still be in the game.

listermint

What's making a killing though?

He's definitely earning very good money from it. Very good money.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444314#Comment_121444314

Good money from just a few hours of waffle a week…. Plus other revenue streams.

taxAHcruel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121442707#Comment_121442707

Still waiting for examples of this advice dispensing which you say is documented "all over the internet". So far you offered nothing but a single 1 minute clip in which he did no such thing. And multiple users here explained how he was doing no such thing in that clip (most of whom you ignored and have yet to reply to).

Its "all over" the internet according to you. Surely finding a few examples of it can not be that hard? Does it not strike you as odd that you complain about him doing something over and over again yet are seemingly unable to find a single example of him doing it?

And that's before pointing out that even if you did find him doing it - you have not offered a single argument as to why he or anyone else should not be doing it except this "appeal to authority" fallacy you keep clinging to? You seem to have a notion that only someone with a qualification in a given field should be offering advice or ideas in that field. That is a ridiculous notion to hold. Especially in a country where getting access to such professionals is difficult and expensive for many.

Worse you are going against the very professionals that you are pretending should be the only ones espousing on the topic. In that - as users have pointed out multiple times on the thread already too - many of them have not only praised Blindboy and what he is doing in that field but actually use his podcasts as supporting reference material for their patients. So comically the laugh out loud result of this is that you are putting such professionals up on a pedestal to bash Blindboy with but entirely ignoring anything those professionals actually do or say! You must be so flexible to be able to twist yourself in such knots.

And yet somehow you are not all over the "Personal Issues" and "Relationship Issues" forums here where people with even less qualification and experience than Blindboy are dispensing advice all the time. Usuaully with none of the disclaimers and caution that Blindboy demonstrates in his podcasts. On mental health topics. On Dietry topics. On marital and relationship topics. On parenting topics. And much much more. But oh lordy lordy I guess none of those people get any MONEY for it. Which seemingly is your ACTUAL issue here.

Which once again suggests what I said many times on the thread before. Which is that certain people - and my suspicion is strongly that you are one of them - dislike the person first and retrospectively seek reasons to justify that second. You are floundering to make your accusations stick here. Both in relevance and substance.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444411#Comment_121444411

He’s earning a living by providing something people want to pay for. I don’t pay for it because I don’t want it.

Whether it’s waffle is subjective, but why shouldn’t he earn a living the way he does? You seem to be looking for problems, it’s weird. What have you actually got agains the lad and why?

ancapailldorcha

It's gas that making money from podcasts is the worst thing in the world when someone like Blindboy, someone who seems to have good intentions does it, but when toxic wretch like Peterson does it, it's perfectly fine.

magicbastarder

If his podcast is listened to by over a million people - and those people have actively sought to listen to it, unlike say Joe Duffy where many people would just be listening to whatever is on radio 1 - those figures are colossal. More than three times what the Joe Duffy show is.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444771#Comment_121444771

Peterson, of course it’s fine 🤷‍♂️, A qualified and award winning psychologist, an experienced doctor of psychology, a teacher of psychology in one of if not the top seats of learning on the planet, Harvard where he was also a researcher , and the University of Toronto… 🙂. He’s practiced clinical psychology successfully for years…ffs.

Peterson = experienced healthcare professional, respected / lauded educator ..but people would rather laud Mr no healthcare qualifications Blindboy over someone with an education and a clinical track record of treating patients and educating young psychologists and indeed the wider public, but he gets abused here as ‘a toxic wretch’ ? Seriously ? That’s a petty personal attack. Despite your grudge his students and patients also speak incredibly well of him. Also if you are unwell, it will take more than ‘good intentions’ to get you better.

my issue is that people who are not educated / qualified in healthcare issues should not be speaking as an authority on and advising on healthcare issues. I’ve been told that he isn’t advising he’s only…. He IS advising, there are examples and I’ve cited one where he is providing psychological / healthcare advice as relates to psychology and treatment and young people.

he is / has positioned himself as an authority on psychology…he says he isn’t an expert he just needs to either stop talking or engage in discussions more responsibly. he has to own that…

if someone asks..” Strumms, that problem you had with your leg, I’ve similar …what do you recommend “

Me.. “ go see your doctor, physiotherapy and hydrotherapy worked great, ask about them, they might be options but see a doctor if suitable he’ll write a referral “..

I’m not positioning myself as an expert, because I am not one… I’m not giving healthcare related advice, beyond advising where advice, expert advice might be attainable… and what services I encountered. Blindboy on the other hand 🤷‍♂️

And referring to Peterson as a ‘toxic wretch’, you weren’t winning the argument let’s say, but when you stoop to the level of just trotting out abuse to enable your views… 😬

taxAHcruel

^ Again you provided no such example. So that is just an outright lie at this stage. You provided an example of him doing nothing more than saying something should be on the education curriculum for children. And you have simply dug down on the false claim that that was him offering mental health advice.

Again me saying that History should be on the curriculum is not me pretending to be a historian or saying something that required a history qualification. So your twisting reality to pretend that saying Mental Health tools would be a good thing to teach in school, is stepping into the domain that should only be held by people with qualifications is just sheer desperaiton on your part at this point.

And I repeat once again - you still have not offered an argument as to why people without qualifications should not be offering advice/opinions in those subjects anyway. You are just declaring it from on high that it is so.

Dodging and ignoring posts you can not rebut, is not evidence or an argument. Simple fact is at this point you claimed the evidence for your nonsense is documented "all over the internet" and yet magically you can not find even one single solitary example of it all :) Absolutely hilarious at this stage.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446023#Comment_121446023

Lol.

Peterson.

Waste of text giving out about how hilariously idiotic he is

The end /

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446023#Comment_121446023

Peterson is a “toxic wretch” because instead of staying in his lane he lectures people on the climate, economics and gender identity. All from the position of a bigot. Look at his attacks on trans people, absolutely disgusting

He gives air time to people like Douglas Murray and Stefan Molyneaux who are even bigots they he is.

His credentials are irrelevant when he goes around attacking innocent people and arguing with scientists he isn’t smart enough to debate.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446040#Comment_121446040

Well, you tell those Harvard folks 😉

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446102#Comment_121446102

Even if he went back to his own lane, I'd be disinclined to trust him after the toxic nonsense he's peddled for money.

He ought to fix his own house before lecturing other people about their lawns.

onrail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446023#Comment_121446023

Stop digging

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446194#Comment_121446194

When did he teach at Harvard? When was he a professor at the University of Toronto?

He has completely gone off the rails since he was put in a coma to get over benzo addiction

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446023#Comment_121446023

State of this.

He's a pathetic joke. Any respect he might have commanded is long gone now he's hit the grifting circuit.

Tell me how

I think the poster who suggested BB was dating someone's ex came closest to resolving this ingrained aversion to him.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446023#Comment_121446023

Peterson is full of shite , I do enjoy listening to him though because I love comedy.

The way he treated that Eliot chap was disgusting

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446263#Comment_121446263

Well, his qualifications and achievements probably indicate different but hey we won’t fall out over it.. some people don’t like him and that’s all good.. 😉

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446301#Comment_121446301

I don’t dislike him. I think some of the things he believes and says are disgusting.

His behaviour is disgraceful and he should know better because of his qualifications.

I have no idea what his achievements are.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446837#Comment_121446837

I dislike him intensely. I think he's a snake who attained a position of influence. He could use that influence to encourage young men to take a better path and be a force for good in the world but instead he peddles anti-scientific nonsense so he can ingratiate himself with the mainstream right.

If you have three hours to spare, this is a wonderful take down of him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSNWkRw53Jo

I've watched the whole thing and I'm convinced that the man has no interest in anything but lining his own pockets.

To be clear, I do not hate him or wish harm upon him. He's simply another snake oil salesman in a nation of snake oil salesmen.

I'm not sure what awards he's won. We're told he's won awards but nobody can list them. Same for his achievements.

I'll leave Dorian Lynskey the last word:

https://twitter.com/OriginStorycast/status/1716529930908106815

Strumms

Peterson ? :) He literally can’t be a snake oil salesman, his qualifications refute that and reflect otherwise… 🙂 but that statement might be a lot closer to defining Blindboy, him and his ‘no qualifications’ schtick… Peterson he’s 61 and been practicing in a highly regulated field of healthcare for years. A qualified doctor of psychology.

So Peterson, has he interest in lining his own pockets ? Well I’d hope so…. Years of studying to become a doctor of psychology you’d maybe want to make some money…after all that effort…pay your expenses, loans, buy a house, car as a result of your hard work using your doctorate, experience and skills ! :) Be compensated for your hard work, knowledge and time…

people the world over involved involved in healthcare… write books, give talks, teach / train… my own dentist lectures, 3rd level part time here… sooooo…..

maybe we can all try get Blindboy a job in UCD, he may leave the bag on and educate our future psychologists on ‘ mintil hilth boi ‘…. What he thinks they should be doing, shouldn’t be doing…? Where the curriculum has been going wrong, where psychology has been going wrong…… him, and his doctorate, sorry, degree ! Errr no.. masters ? Errrr what !? Well, just him and the bag I guess… I suppose he means well, doesn’t he ? 😉

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121447704#Comment_121447704

Nobody with a medical qualification can do anything wrong. Well, except for Harold Shipman, Andrew Wakefield, Dr. Oz, etc...

Not a good defence.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121447720#Comment_121447720

It’s not a defence, they are facts. He doesn’t need defending, odd thing to post. :)

Also a bit weird that you choose to bolster your paper thin argument by bringing in those names of… criminals, murderers and psychopaths… a bit desperate…. Unless you can tell us something about Peterson that you know, that the rest of us don’t ? 😅

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121447878#Comment_121447878

Its interesting that you’re defending Peterson for doing exactly what Blindboy does.

Peterson advises people on economics, climate science and politics. He isn’t a doctor of any of those. Shouldn’t he shut the **** up, by your logic?

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121447878#Comment_121447878

Peterson's a crank. You're being entirely disingenuous by defending one person but censuring another for doing exactly the same thing.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121447878#Comment_121447878

Have you seen Petersons personal and professional trajectory over the last 5 years or so? The man has had serious issues and seems to have clasped on to an audience demographic that gives him the kudos that he desperately needs. He's had serious mental health difficulties but seems to have dealt with them or is dealing with them by looking outwardly instead of inward and focuses on culture wars and quasi-conspiracy theories and the likes.

Now, I'm not faulting him for his personal health difficulties, but just to give an eternal approval to someone because they qualified 10, 20, 30 years ago and to ignore what it is they are saying and doing now, is..... weird.

The last poster is correct in pointing out that medical degrees does not exclude someone from being harmful, nor should it mean that they should be treated as a Demi-God either.

Me personally, I've recommended Blind Boys podcast to friends who have been struggling with mental health, I'd be concerned if I heard they were listening to Peterson in the frame of mind they've been in, I'd worry they'd end up going down a Gemma Doherty type rabbit hole.

magicbastarder

it's fairly simple, blindboy's message appears to be 'don't trust me because i'm not an expert' and peterson's (from what i'm reading above) is 'trust me, because i am an expert'.

it's plainly obvious which is the 'safer' message.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121446194#Comment_121446194

Harvard ? He was studying there whilst doing assistant teaching. Like many post grads across Ireland.

Is this meant to be some gotcha of how awesome his credentials are ?

Jesus you like shiney things...

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121448456#Comment_121448456

No, I can just see qualifications and competence and then…. Blindboy… a grifter.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121448183#Comment_121448183

By the looks of it, his health difficulties are down to his own poor choices. When he was preaching responsibility, he must've meant for anyone but him. For a man who spent a fair amount of his book warning against deceit, he's very happy to engage in it himself.

The difference between himself and Blindboy is that the latter seems to be a decent skin just trying to encourage people to take care of themselves. Peterson takes lost men and tries to radicalise them for profit. That's the difference. One wants to help, the other wants a payout.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121450993#Comment_121450993

Blind boy charges on Patreon. He is estimated to make thousands a month according to one article I read…

Peterson has a lot of free material, advice on social media, that he is qualified to discuss and dispense…

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121451023#Comment_121451023

How is he qualified to deny climate change and science?

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121451027#Comment_121451027

I’ve no idea… I’m only interested in him talking about psychology and associated issues…

is he giving scientific advice on climate change ? Because no matter how many times Blindboy denies it, he gives psychological advice and determinations which he isn’t qualified to do… Healthcare advice and determinations which is a LOT more dangerous then Peterson possibly having a skewed perspective on climate change :) if he does… again, I only listen to him as regards healthcare….

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121451083#Comment_121451083

More whataboutery. I think you know he pontificates on the climate regularly.

Can you back up your claim about Blindboy dispensing healthcare advice?

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121451086#Comment_121451086

I did back it up, :) I’ve actually posted it, I’m not in the habit of repeating myself, or trawling through old posts, to satisfy your schtick and Blindboy obsession. Because no matter how many posts you try and use to desegregate Peterson, to make your views on Blindboy somehow credible, Peterson …he’s still a doctor of psychology, and any other non medical opinions he may have, he would be entitled to express them. :)

however, Blindboy isn’t entitled to pontificate or advise anyone on healthcare / psychological or similar scientific matters, I’m not, you are not, yet, he does….

According to Blindboy ….“ from the ages of 3 up, kids should be taught basic psychological tools “ that’s healthcare advice 😷

psychology for the most part is a branch of healthcare. Health science, and here he is saying to parents, a fella incidentally who doesn’t have kids, that kids should be taught basic psychological tools from the age of 3…..very specific …. “Should”…. so he is pontificating, advising… “ kids should “…. Not “I heard a psychologist say”, not “I read in X that kids should “ or… “in the world of psychology it’s believed that… “ He advises and pontificates…. Therefore by default deliberately positions himself as an expert. What tools ? And by whom David ? 🤔

nope 😬

in the world of Blindboy and according to Blindboy he says… as relates to psychology….“ kids should “….

no different to me saying hey, you should get physiotherapy for your shoulder pain… will I fûck, “ go see a doctor “… let professionals work it out….