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Ducks to are bred to lay eggs

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  • 13-11-2017 6:02pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭


    Hey

    Does anyone know how farmers breed ducks to lay eggs? i.e. I know if a chick is born a male it is fairly soon after killed, if its born female its kept to lay eggs.

    Is this the same with ducks, do they breed them and only keep the female?

    thanks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    oxygen wrote: »
    Hey

    Does anyone know how farmers breed ducks to lay eggs? i.e. I know if a chick is born a male it is fairly soon after killed, if its born female its kept to lay eggs.

    Is this the same with ducks, do they breed them and only keep the female?

    thanks!

    I would assume you are correct.
    I've not had a duck egg in ages! Had a duck last week.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    oxygen wrote: »
    Hey

    Does anyone know how farmers breed ducks to lay eggs? i.e. I know if a chick is born a male it is fairly soon after killed, if its born female its kept to lay eggs.

    Is this the same with ducks, do they breed them and only keep the female?

    thanks!

    Yes, anything commercial like that will have animals suffering.killed for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,364 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Don't know in the case of ducks. Laying hens and milking goats are specialised strains of their breeds. You cannot largely fatten the males of either.

    Bovines and most others don't have the males euthanised early.


  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭oxygen


    Water John wrote: »
    Don't know in the case of ducks. Laying hens and milking goats are specialised strains of their breeds. You cannot largely fatten the males of either.

    Bovines and most others don't have the males euthanised early.

    Do you mean bovine in terms of cattle, specifically fresian cows? Sorry man, they absolutely do, the bull calf's are taken away at an early age and slaughtered. There doesn't even seem to be an cross synergy to allow these bull calf's to live a relatively short lifespan to be produced as meat.

    RE duck eggs, yea I think its unavoidable that any animal produced for food production has its males slaughtered a a young age.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,364 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    No calves are euthenased in Ireland. Go into any mart and see Fr bullocks for sale.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭oxygen


    Water John wrote: »
    No calves are euthenased in Ireland. Go into any mart and see Fr bullocks for sale.

    ok, I've looked a bit into it and I stand corrected, calves do not seem to be euthenased in Ireland. However, in the interest of this forum (which is "Vegan & Vegetarian" not "Farming & Forestry" where yourself and Mooo seem to be more active) I will say the following....

    "Around half of all male calves are transported abroad where they are intensively bred for veal. This means they will be slaughtered when they are only a few months old."

    http://irishvegan.ie/?page_id=216
    https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/finding-home-for-thousands-of-irish-dairy-bull-calves-35389817.html

    or they can be bred for general meat consumption where a beef system where they are killed by 24 months of age.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057641390

    I don't want anyone to be confused due to my lack of research that male calves have anything other than a cruel short life span


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Yeah I mentioned in this thread that 200000 cows will be exported this year, majority are calves and weanlings. People generally use this to say we don't support veal and the like when realistically we are sending them to places with far worse standards than here to wash our hands of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭ElKavo


    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/live-export-trade-vital-contends-icsa-president-as-protest-planned/

    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/three-boats-of-cattle-set-to-sail-for-turkey/

    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/live-exports-accounts-just-3-5/

    Just in case anyone thinks that pages like Irish vegan are biased. This is a very real situation. Irish dairy farms are expanding their herds so these "by products" numbers will increase. The lure of filthy lucre for this sector only spells greater death and suffering for this species. Not to mention the fines that will be imposed by Europe because of our increasing green house gas emissions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,364 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I wouldn't be using GHG as an argument. The recent US study showed only a small reduction, if all the US went vegan. Plus the country would not be able to feed itself.

    No problem with people having their opinions but don't force them on the rest of us.
    BTW have two vegetarians in my family and isn't an issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭oxygen


    Water John wrote: »
    No problem with people having their opinions but don't force them on the rest of us.

    he says in the "Vegan & Vegetarian" forum :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭ElKavo


    Water John wrote: »
    I wouldn't be using GHG as an argument. The recent US study showed only a small reduction, if all the US went vegan. Plus the country would not be able to feed itself.

    No problem with people having their opinions but don't force them on the rest of us.
    BTW have two vegetarians in my family and isn't an issue.

    So you don't think we will be fined?

    I always find it interesting when people say that you would not be able to feed yourself or a country would not be able to feed itself if they went Vegan.

    Re opinions, have you turned on a T.V., radio, the internet been outside at all ever? Everywhere you go there are advertisements for animal products. ..."Force them on the rest of us..." Please!


  • Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭ElKavo


    Here is an article in the Irish Times from

    "Most of the emissions, which the Government is tasked with reducing, comes from agriculture, transport and construction.
    Agriculture is responsible for the largest share (42 per cent), followed by transport and heat use in buildings."

    SRC >>> https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/ireland-could-face-5-5bn-climate-bill-by-2030-says-expert-1.2787535

    Don't think for one sec that burring your head in the sand is a solution. We need to change the way we eat to survive as a species. We embrace change on other aspects, but god forbid people ate disgusting plants instead of meat! The very notion!


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