Republic of Ireland vs Denmark, World Cup Play-Off 2nd Leg, kick-off 7.45, RTE 2

Billy86

Patww79 wrote: »

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They didn't though, they took a lead before any real identity had been established and then tried to push the game forward to the Danes, even getting two good chances. We've just conceded our fourth a few minutes ago, the most we have conceded in a competitive game in over five years (which was our worst ever home loss when we tried to play open football against Germany).

I don't enjoy how we play, but it clearly is the only effective option because the talent literally just is not there. The ugly way we play is by far the best method of success for us (there's another team we both support that I'd love to see adapt to what is available like that! ). Sure there are sides like the Georgia game where we need to be putting the game to them (and Wes should probably be starting those games in my opinion), but the likes of Denmark are clearly just a lot more talented than us.

Ulysses Gaze

DeanAustin wrote: »

What would you change at grassroots level? Smaller pitches? No competitive football until you’re 15? More emphasis on passing? A formation used from u13 upwards?

All of that. And for LOI clubs to start selling their better players for mid six figure amounts rather than derisory sums.

That would then allow them to invest in their academies and youth infrastructure.

Also, every Youth Coach should have a UEFA B License minimum.

Esse85

I feel sorry for Randolph, he deserves better than the muck in front of him.

Strong Life in Dublin

DeanAustin wrote: »

Here come the grassroots conversations. We’ll have dozens of them tomorrow. Same every time we don’t qualify for something.

But it's true, we usually blame our bad performances on our pop size, but how come smaller countries achieve more than us?

Mr.Nice Guy

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

Quazzie

Here comes the Lord!

nullzero

Should have given Roy a run out

murpho999

Hard to believe that we're now actually heading for minimum of a 20 year gap of qualifying for a World Cup.

All the talk after 2002 was to ensure we keep qualifying and it's all gone wrong since then.

nullzero

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

Don't forget Ruby Walsh...

edgecutter

Sad way to go out, but far too many errors and not enough quality to kill this game off. We invited pressure and made errors which killed us.Once Ireland have to chase a game we begin to show our limitations and have been picked off. You have to wonder what we are doing as a country to help build better footballers.

10000maniacs

A goal every 90 seconds and we are there. Come-on the boys.

blueser

smelly sock wrote: »

Pat dolan for manager.

Better stock up on the pies!

Ardent

Zinedine McClane

Mr.Nice Guy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

Bonus points for "international football is dying"

Quazzie

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

But it's true, we usually blame our bad performances on our pop size, but how come smaller countries achieve more than us?

Iceland done it with systematic and clever investment in grassroots football.

AndyBoBandy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

And someone inhorses, they always get a Dunphy shoutout

ERG89

Mr.Nice Guy wrote:

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

I'm hoping he mentions the Galway hurling team.

Ulysses Gaze

nullzero wrote: »

Don't forget Ruby Walsh...

Padraig Harrington and Tiger W...well maybe not...

DeanAustin

DeanAustin wrote: »

What would you change at grassroots level? Smaller pitches? No competitive football until you’re 15? More emphasis on passing? A formation used from u13 upwards?

All those methods are good suggestions because it would get our lads used to playing both in spatial confinement and with a bit of freedom in terms of decision making

The culture of Irish football at present is to be adverse to a Wes type of player and be more results driven.

IamtheWalrus

Tyson Fury wrote: »

You're a disgrace, absolute turn coat.

It's clearly a joke. Lighten up Larry.

SlickRic

The McGeady substitution might be the most baffling one of MON's reign. Especially as it denied us the 2nd of our defensive midfielders.

Why did he go from one extreme to the other?

applehunter

Joseph O'Brien as well

My name is URL

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

I can almost guarantee that he'll put a positive slant on it. Such is the strength of his contrarianism

Billy86

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Eh no. You don't have a clue. At least comment honestly.

No, I do.

You don't.

Thanks, bye.

OldMrBrennan83

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edgecutter

Quazzie wrote: »

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

But it's true, we usually blame our bad performances on our pop size, but how come smaller countries achieve more than us?

Iceland done it with systematic and clever investment in grassroots football.

But but but Delaney needs his 400k.

Zeek12

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

Don't forget AP McCoy😆

LuckyGent88

The two changes at ht really gave us no chance imo. Would have brought Wes on for Hendrick who has been anonymous and kept some bit of balance in midfield as the just just took over then.

Esse85

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

I reckon Katie Taylor will get a mention too.

nullzero

murpho999 wrote: »

Hard to believe that we're now actually heading for minimum of a 20 year gap of qualifying for a World Cup.

All the talk after 2002 was to ensure we keep qualifying and it's all gone wrong since then.

Twenty years in which nothing has been invested into the sport whilst rugby has over taken soccer in the sporting pecking order and the gaa has invested heavily in every conceivable aspect of their games.

Vital Transformation

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Dunphy is busy preparing his eulogy for Irish football as we speak. Expect mentions for Brian Cody, Joe Schmidt and Michael O'Neill.

Hopefully an honourable mention to the fabled "street footballers" of the past.

WoollyRedHat

DeanAustin wrote: »

Here come the grassroots conversations. We’ll have dozens of them tomorrow. Same every time we don’t qualify for something.

There's a reason why we've been talking about it for years on end.

The fact it gets more attention when we dont qualify is true but it's always there, even with a gloss of qualification. The lack of exciting prospects who we can really get behind is shocking..there's a dirth of players that have real ability or anything resembling technical ability at this level. Look at the options in our strike line and how reliant we are in players that are well into their 30's.

AndyBoBandy

ERG89 wrote: »

I'm hoping he mentions the Galway hurling team.

And Johnny Logan

Alf Veedersane

I feel bad enough about how this has all unravelled but having to listen to Ronnie Whelan makes it a lot worse.


It's the f*cking hope that kills you...

Tipsy McSwagger

It simply comes down to the players are shyte and the manager is even worse.

Kerrydude1981

Jim Gavin and the Dubs will get a mention

Kermit.de.frog

What now for O'Neill - has he signed the contract yet.


He may look at this and think he can't take this team any further.

nullzero

Quazzie wrote: »

Iceland done it with systematic and clever investment in grassroots football.

Iceland don't have the gaa and irfu out smarting soccer at every turn tbf

Quazzie

edgecutter wrote: »

But but but Delaney needs his 400k.

Interesting article here.

IamtheWalrus

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

It simply comes down to the players are shyte and the manager is even worse.

It's really hard to argue with that

Vital Transformation

Vital Transformation wrote: »

Hopefully an honourable mention to the fabled "street footballers" of the past.

And a mention of 'moral courage' just so Giles is there in spirit

davycc

For all the doubters of Eriksson undoubted would class, painful lesson tonight

OldMrBrennan83

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Vincent Vega

Weird as it sounds, getting absolutely hammered feels much more ok than going out on a 1-1.
Or it doesn't feel as painful anyway.
I suppose it helps to drag you into the acceptance stage of grief sooner.
At the very least it gives MON less of a place to hide.

NIMAN

Has he not got a 2 yr extension?

_Kaiser_

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What now for O'Neill - has he signed the contract yet.


He may look at this and think he can't take this team any further.

Well I'm expecting another adversarial defensive post-match interview first anyway!

martyos121

Whatever about the result at this stage, I’ll happily shout for Denmark at the World Cup next summer. Great country, great fans and a really nice attacking team with a hugely entertaining number 10 driving them on.

They fully deserve the last European spot next summer, much better side all around tbh.

mzungu

Granted, Denmark were better over the two legs. But 4-1 is not an accurate reflection of it.

Quazzie

nullzero wrote: »

Iceland don't have the gaa and irfu out smarting soccer at every turn tbf

They have Ice Hockey, and about 6% of our population. We have nearly as many soccer clubs in this country as they have players

DeanAustin

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

All of that. And for LOI clubs to start selling their better players for mid six figure amounts rather than derisory sums.

That would then allow them to invest in their academies and youth infrastructure.

Also, every Youth Coach should have a UEFA B License minimum.

And I don’t disagree with that but it’d take 10-15 years to bring results. Our fans won’t stick with something for that long without the same whinging and moaning. We’d also have to change our mentality on the game and there is no real will to do that.