Republic of Ireland vs Denmark, World Cup Play-Off 2nd Leg, kick-off 7.45, RTE 2

Brady is phoning it in

OldMrBrennan83

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blueser

awec wrote: »

Does Dunphy always have such a hard on for Wes Hoolahan?

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LuckyGent88

Thank **** Didi is on the panel to be the voice of reason. Absolutely bang on in his analysis

death1234567

awec wrote: »

Does Dunphy always have such a hard on for Wes Hoolahan?

No, I think this is the first time he's mentioned him.

SEPT 23 1989

Maybe Roy will speak in Martins stead tonight

OldMrBrennan83

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DeanAustin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Unfortunately it would take that time indeed. It wouldn't be easy to watch in the meantime, but there's been nothing easy about the last 10-15 years overall, and it's not going to be easy carrying on the way it has been. Sure we got to two Euros, but 'shít sticks to a wall if you fling enough at it' - 'A broken clock is still right twice a day', choose your analogy for how we graft and grind our way into the odd major tournament.

Our fans have stuck through some awful shíte as it is. 10-15 years goes by quicker than it seems. We could spend that time carrying on as usual, hoping we hit a Euros or two, but for the most part watching some truly turgid, one-dimensional, ineffective football. The buck will stop with the current manager and "Sure we just don't have the players". Or we could try to really change something.

Iceland has a total population of about 330,000 and there can't be that many to add to that figure in ex-pats. Iceland shouldn't have the players either, but they did something effective at grassroots level to change that. Who is their manager? It doesn't matter.

We're not talking about planting seeds which none of us will see grow into big trees in our lifetimes: In 10-15 years many of us in here will still be relatively young, if fate spares us of course.

I agree but I’m not sure we have the patience in this country. If it didn’t yield instant results people would be talking about what a waste it is.

Look at the clueless posts about Wes tonight. How he plays the game is how our kids should be taught to play. Yet youve clowns on this thread having a go because he didn’t turn the game in 45 minutes.

smelly sock

Berserker wrote: »

He'll stay at NI or he'll move into a club role. No chance of him moving to the RoI. NI and RoI are on the same level.

No we have better players

irishman86

awec wrote: »

Hands off.

Heard Scotland offered a double your money deal to him and Rangers in the hunt aswell
Good luck keeping him

caviardreams

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the alternative to McGeady? Nobody

O'dowda might have been an option. McGeady has usually been the default option off the bench and has just not worked.

One More Toy

smelly sock wrote: »

No we have better players

NI don't fall apart like we do

Quazzie

Will there definitely be a MON interview because I would really prefer not to listen to Dunphy any longer if there isn't

awec

irishman86 wrote: »

Heard Scotland offered a double your money deal to him and Rangers in the hunt aswell
Good luck keeping him

Ah we won't keep him, I'd be amazed if he wasn't getting money thrown at him by clubs.

smelly sock

One More Toy wrote: »

NI don't fall apart like we do

Management.

Billy86

super_furry wrote: »

Plus he did nothing when he came on.

He’s a 35-year-old Championship midfielder who can’t play more than an hour a week. If he’s the answer, we’re really in trouble.

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irishgeo

ireland pop 4.5 million
iceland pop 380k

something really wrong with our coaching when you see that iceland can put together a decent team and we cant.

I think we need to go back an rethinking our coaching.

I blame the FAI

Berserker

smelly sock wrote: »

No we have better players

Much of a muchness. Steven Davis, Evans and Chris Brunt would have made a big difference to you there tonight.

IamtheWalrus

Has Martin been interviewed yet?

One More Toy

caviardreams wrote: »

O'dowda might have been an option. McGeady has usually been the default option off the bench and has just not worked.

Agree. My heart sank when he was coming on. Obviously him and MON have a bromance.

Only positive from tonight is it could very well be the last time we see mcgeady in an Irish shirt

Kermit.de.frog

Spare a thought for Brendan

briany

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Has Martin been interviewed yet?

He's probably hiding under a pile of coats.

smelly sock

Berserker wrote: »

Much of a muchness. Steven Davis, Evans and Chris Brunt would have made a big difference to you there tonight.

So they have 3 players that would get in our team? Out of 11.

caviardreams

caviardreams wrote: »

O'dowda might have been an option. McGeady has usually been the default option off the bench and has just not worked.

I was laughing at Brady's comment. I actually agree with you. I sat through six months of Mcgeady at SWFC too

Deliverance XXV

I suppose the first thing to say is that we probably didn't deserve to get to the playoffs, let alone the World Cup. There are better teams than us that didn't get that far. How did we get there? We tend to fill the missing gaps with heart, determination and gaps. While we have been relatively competitive over the last few campaigns, we have also been seriously embarrassed when it comes to crunch time.

The whole Wes debate is a very valid one. He is probably one of the most technically gifted Irish players of a generation but relatively ignored by the last two Irish managers. Does Portugal drop Ronaldo so they can play long ball? No, they build the team and tactics around him. Who is the next gifted Irish footballer when Wes is gone?

The midfield is still a huge issue for me. Too many similar holding players creates the imbalance for me. Too many times four of our players were challenging two of theirs and they just pass around us. This happened us a lot over the competition.

Sad finish to mixed results campaign.

To finish; James McClean is one of my favourite players to wear an Irish jersey.

MD1990

Very dumb move to give Mon a new contract . Poor manager who relies on luck and a good defence.

Billy86

lawred2 wrote: »

Shay Given flat out said that O Neill did nothing in training. Said nothing nor communicated any plan or vision.

Apparently O Neill does motivational team talks.

If I'm right he's been that way since Leicester or certainly Villa, a few managers apparently do - think I recall hearing Ferguson did so near the end too. A weird one internationally but makes more sense at club level where the players are there 5+ days week in, week out as routine in my opinion.

Hanging out McClean

smelly sock

MON blaming the players. **** off.

blinding

Patww79 wrote: »

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I think I ‘d be going to Amerikay given a choice of those two .

briany

smelly sock wrote: »

MON blaming the players. **** off.

Shur, the players never do anything wrong.

Lackey

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

This result is going to damage football in Ireland big time, football is already competing with the GAA and rugby!

Lots of kids play multiple sports but they are being forced to pick now with football season being changed to run during the summer....playing both gaa and soccer leads to faster fitter better kids
should be no need to chose until they are older when its clear which sport they are better at.

Berserker

smelly sock wrote: »

So they have 3 players that would get in our team? Out of 11.

Oh, that was just a small suggestion. Would Lafferty be much worse up front than what you have at the moment? Ditto for Gareth McAuley in defence. I think the two squads are on a par.

Death stare

SEPT 23 1989

Tony is rattling his cage

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**** this ****.

He says 'we had to try something'

It took him years to try anything and it was still the worst decision possible

Resign with a semblance of competence ffs

smelly sock

Berserker wrote: »

Oh, that was just a small suggestion. Would Lafferty be much worse up front than what you have at the moment? Ditto for Gareth McAuley in defence. I think the two squads are on a par.

Ha Ha.

Mr.Nice Guy

Tony so nervous.

Oat23

irishgeo wrote: »

ireland pop 4.5 million
iceland pop 380k

something really wrong with our coaching when you see that iceland can put together a decent team and we cant.

I think we need to go back an rethinking our coaching.

I blame the FAI

Iceland has almost 1,000 licensed coaches in a country where the biggest team is semi-pro.

I believe we only have around 700 licensed coaches in Ireland.

smelly sock

I feel sorry for MON actually.

SEPT 23 1989

Here we go

Quazzie

Martin looks he is about to trottle Tony.

wotzgoingon

I feel sorry for the players. They played their best over this whole campaign and to be totally destroyed in the most crucial game.


Our defense was atrociousness as well but they gave it their best.

I'm no MON fan but Tony is being a gimp here

blueser

O'Neill bristling there.

WoollyRedHat

Oh shut up MON.

mzungu

Things a bit cold between MON and Tony.

awec

MON seems pretty passive aggressive in interviews.

Strong Life in Dublin

Deliverance XXV wrote: »

I suppose the first thing to say is that we probably didn't deserve to get to the playoffs, let alone the World Cup. There are better teams than us that didn't get that far. How did we get there? We tend to fill the missing gaps with heart, determination and gaps. While we have been relatively competitive over the last few campaigns, we have also been seriously embarrassed when it comes to crunch time.

The whole Wes debate is a very valid one. He is probably one of the most technically gifted Irish players of a generation but relatively ignored by the last two Irish managers. Does Portugal drop Ronaldo so they can play long ball? No, they build the team and tactics around him. Who is the next gifted Irish footballer when Wes is gone?

The midfield is still a huge issue for me. Too many similar holding players creates the imbalance for me. Too many times four of our players were challenging two of theirs and they just pass around us. This happened us a lot over the competition.

Sad finish to mixed results campaign.

To finish; James McClean is one of my favourite players to wear an Irish jersey.

I don't know what you're talking about, we were top of our group a year ago, we definitely deserved the playoff spot

OldMrBrennan83

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