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andekwarhola

scrawnyass wrote: »

Agree completely. GAA was always no 1 in school. My daughters in primary and it's still the same. I love hurling and soccer but the schools still have this "foreign sports" approach to soccer which is pretty sad

Be proactive. My kids school doesn't do 'soccer' so they play schoolboy football outside of school (as was their first sporting preference) and still play Gaelic football in the school.

Elmer Blooker

When I'm walking the dog on a Sunday morning I see the schoolboy leagues in the park and it can clearly be seen how uncomfortable these kids are with the ball. Its all kick and rush and get rid of the ball as quick as possible. There seems to be a fear of holding on to the ball, a fear of making an error and looking silly in front of their mums and dads on the sidelines. Get rid of it!
Youngsters should only play 5 or 7 a side practice matches on small pitches with the emphasis on possession football. There will be lots of time for competitive football when they are older.

lawred2

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

When I'm walking the dog on a Sunday morning I see the schoolboy leagues in the park and it can clearly be seen how uncomfortable these kids are with the ball. Its all kick and rush and get rid of the ball as quick as possible. There seems to be a fear of holding on to the ball, a fear of making an error and looking silly in front of their mums and dads on the sidelines. Get rid of it!
Youngsters should only play 5 or 7 a side practice matches on small pitches with the emphasis on possession football. There will be lots of time for competitive football when they are older.

I see it too down in Malahide Castle at the weekend.

And idiot coaches & parents screaming at them to boot.

Dr Crayfish

Christ it's only really sinking in now, the defeat. I was there last night, absolutely rocking before the game and up until the 2nd goal really. I wonder if I'll ever see us in a world cup again in my lifetime. This defeat along with my worsening hangover is utterly depressing. Sigh.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Christ it's only really sinking in now, the defeat. I was there last night, absolutely rocking before the game and up until the 2nd goal really. I wonder if I'll ever see us in a world cup again in my lifetime. This defeat along with my worsening hangover is utterly depressing. Sigh.

Isn't there plans to expand the tournament to 48 teams in the future?


I imagine we'll appear again in the watered down version.

Ipso

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

When I'm walking the dog on a Sunday morning I see the schoolboy leagues in the park and it can clearly be seen how uncomfortable these kids are with the ball. Its all kick and rush and get rid of the ball as quick as possible. There seems to be a fear of holding on to the ball, a fear of making an error and looking silly in front of their mums and dads on the sidelines. Get rid of it!
Youngsters should only play 5 or 7 a side practice matches on small pitches with the emphasis on possession football. There will be lots of time for competitive football when they are older.

But parents want to live through their children at an early age.

Doltanian

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Christ it's only really sinking in now, the defeat. I was there last night, absolutely rocking before the game and up until the 2nd goal really. I wonder if I'll ever see us in a world cup again in my lifetime. This defeat along with my worsening hangover is utterly depressing. Sigh.

The World Cup will be extended to 48 teams in 2026 which will give us a better chance of qualifying, can't see us getting there due to our lack of talent before that however.

However to think that we qualified for Italia 90 a 24 team tournament and reached the Quarter finals and only for a negative 0-0 draw against Egypt we could have topped that group and we would have most likely defeated Belgium and Cameroon to make the World Cup Semi-Finals, we were beaten by Italy in the quarter final but we met them four years later and defeated them in New Jersey in USA 94. Ireland of 1990 were between the 8th and 6th best team in the world. In 94 we again qualified for a 24 team tournament.

Ireland of 2002 would have defeated Spain in the last 16 had Roy Keane not threw his toys out of the pram when it most mattered. I personally think it is a disgrace he is left near the Irish team today after the Saipan incident. A unified team with Keane would then have taken South Korea to make the Semi-Final against a German side we held to a 1-1 draw earlier. With Keane we could potentially have made the World Cup Final that year :eek:. Really last night was sheer luck and determination to get that far, but we don't have the players or talent at the moment and the FAI is ran as an old boys club with money for the boys all round.

endacl

Doltanian wrote: »

The World Cup will be extended to 48 teams in 2026 which will give us a better chance of qualifying, can't see us getting there due to our lack of talent before that however.

However to think that we qualified for Italia 90 a 24 team tournament and reached the Quarter finals and only for a negative 0-0 draw against Egypt we could have topped that group and we would have most likely defeated Belgium and Cameroon to make the World Cup Semi-Finals, we were beaten by Italy in the quarter final but we met them four years later and defeated them in New Jersey in USA 94. Ireland of 1990 were between the 8th and 6th best team in the world. In 94 we again qualified for a 24 team tournament.

Ireland of 2002 would have defeated Spain in the last 16 had Roy Keane not threw his toys out of the pram when it most mattered. I personally think it is a disgrace he is left near the Irish team today after the Saipan incident. A unified team with Keane would then have taken South Korea to make the Semi-Final against a German side we held to a 1-1 draw earlier. With Keane we could potentially have made the World Cup Final that year :eek:. Really last night was sheer luck and determination to get that far, but we don't have the players or talent at the moment and the FAI is ran as an old boys club with money for the boys all round.

TL;DR

1. If Ireland had won more games, Ireland would have stayed in tournaments for longer.

2. If Ireland had better players in the team, Ireland's team would be better.

Dr Crayfish

I'm particularly gutted about this loss because it's probably the last real world cup we'll ever have. The next one in Qatar is a joke and may not even happen. Then after that they're talking about 48 teams which is just ridiculous. The Euros have been ruined with the extra teams, in my opinion, 3 teams getting out of a group is just silly. I know we wouldn't have been there last time otherwise but I still wish it kept the old format.

valoren

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Isn't there plans to expand the tournament to 48 teams in the future?


I imagine we'll appear again in the watered down version.

Or under other circumstances we can just ask to be the 49th Team at the tournament.

Fifa please? Anyone?

philstar

Best fans in the world??

the stadium was half empty come the end of the game...talk about deserting the bandwagon

Elmer Blooker

philstar wrote: »

Best fans drinkers in the world??

the stadium was half empty come the end of the game...talk about deserting the bandwagon

If I was there I would have left long before the end. I certainly wouldn't have hung around to watch the Danes celebrate. At 1-3 I turned off the telly cos it was obvious things were going to get a LOT worse.

In 94 we again qualified

Lucky Jack! There wasn't the lottery of a play off back then and anyway it took Spain to do us a favour by beating Denmark.

mattser

philstar wrote: »

Best fans in the world??

the stadium was half empty come the end of the game...talk about deserting the bandwagon

Greatest supporters in the world my ass. Greatest bluffer's more like. The silence is deafening from abbotstown too. FAI are a national disgrace.

Dr Crayfish

mattser wrote: »

Greatest supporters in the world my ass. Greatest bluffer's more like. The silence is deafening from abbotstown too. FAI are a national disgrace.

We were trounced 1-5. Our last 3 or 4 home games have been absolutely pathetic as well. This defeat didn't really come as a surprise to me, we really had it coming.
I left at the 80th minute, there I said it. I just couldn't take it any more.

Pinch Flat

I can never get leaving the ground early. No matter what team I'm watching, I'll always stay to the end. It's the least you could do for your team.

lawred2

philstar wrote: »

Best fans in the world??

the stadium was half empty come the end of the game...talk about deserting the bandwagon

gutted that their summer plans to travel around being massive gobshoites for all to see were torn asunder I suppose

Dravokivich

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I can never get leaving the ground early. No matter what team I'm watching, I'll always stay to the end. It's the least you could do for your team.

And what, with the price of tickets!

mattser

lawred2 wrote: »

gutted that their summer plans to travel around being massive gobshoites for all to see were torn asunder I suppose

Absolutely

valoren

The World Cup is like Christmas for Football. A load of expensive hype that as you get older the more cynical about it you become.

But like Christmas it's all the better when you have a child in the house who transcends that reality.
And likewise a World Cup with Ireland qualified and preparing for is much better.

They believe in Santa but we know he isn't real (i.e. we know we're not going to win, we know we're no better than hoofball tactics). Christmas like the World Cup is mostly interminable (watching repeats of Mrs Browns Boys/watching Alegria vs Costa ****ing Rica) but it's all worthwhile, from the stress of the decorations, the crowds shopping, the annoyance at driving here there and everywhere, for that few seconds on Christmas morning when the kids get to open their presents.

Like O'Leary's penalty in Italy, Houghton lobbing Pagliuca in Giants Stadium, Keane equalising at the death against the Germans, it's worth all the fuss for the one memorable moment where we all, young and old, get to collectively lose our sh1t like a kid on Christmas morning tearing their presents open.

It's been 15 years since we were there and now it will be 19 if we make it again. COYBIG.

Pintman Paddy Losty

The only thing more embarrassing than the Irish soccer team is Irish soccer fans.

The supposed best fans in the world. My hole.

Half the fans can't remember the games they're at because they're so locked.

The only reason they're disappointed when we don't qualify is because they've lost an opportunity to travel around a foreign country pissed out of their mind, harassing the locals and riding prostitutes.

Great lads for waving flags adorned with funny father Ted slogans and singing the fields of athenry when their team is 5 goals down. So locked they can just about understand what's going on.

But when reality sets in, and they realise the dream is over, that they have to go on holiday with their families instead of their beer bellied brothers in arms they abandon ship. They desert their team at the 80th minute. No more songs to sing. Straight to the pub and leave James McClean to blubber to a three quarters empty stadium.

Best fans in the world my hole.

weldoninhio

valoren wrote: »

Best fans in the world is not a self appointed moniker. It's based our reputation for good natured, non trouble making behaviour at tournaments unlike other countries fans (the English, the Russians etc) where the football actually interrupts the violence.

These are Tournaments we realistically have no chance of actually winning, let alone qualify for but the fans make it enjoyable and all the better when we make it. For the security and host country fans we're loved hence the moniker. Would have been great to qualify but we're not good enough.

Russia is going to be a miserable, yawn fest of a World Cup without us.

What an absolute load of boll*x!! Absolutely pathetic. I feel sorry for people that think like this.

valoren

weldoninhio wrote: »

What an absolute load of boll*x!! Absolutely pathetic. I feel sorry for people that think like this.

See my post above for clarity.
Let me take a wild guess at what the World Cup will be like. It's like condensing the Champions League schedule into one month in the summer but with national teams and no home/away ties where you have to endure the likes of Basel, Rosenberg et al until the likes of Real and Bayern actually get the chance to play each other and win the thing.

Early group games at awkward times, basically sorting the wheat from the chaff until the strong South American and European teams make it to the knockout matches, where it actually get's somewhat interesting. A side story with a plucky team like South Korea or Cameroon or the U! S! A! causing upsets to pre-tournament favourites but then get knocked out anyway rendering all their running around and scoring goals completely irrelevant. Then the semi finals between a South American sides and European sides and the final winner being, let me guess, a south american or european side. So yes, yawn. Repeat every 4 years.

Much more interesting with Ireland there giving us something of interest to endure beyond watching the perpetually qualified English team and their deluded hype and then inevitably getting knocked out on penalties. To the Germans. Yawn.

ebbsy

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I can never get leaving the ground early. No matter what team I'm watching, I'll always stay to the end. It's the least you could do for your team.

Try supporting Wicklow and you might change your tune bud.

ebbsy

valoren wrote: »

The World Cup is like Christmas for Football. A load of expensive hype that as you get older the more cynical about it you become.

But like Christmas it's all the better when you have a child in the house who transcends that reality.
And likewise a World Cup with Ireland qualified and preparing for is much better.

They believe in Santa but we know he isn't real (i.e. we know we're not going to win, we know we're no better than hoofball tactics). Christmas like the World Cup is mostly interminable (watching repeats of Mrs Browns Boys/watching Alegria vs Costa ****ing Rica) but it's all worthwhile, from the stress of the decorations, the crowds shopping, the annoyance at driving here there and everywhere, for that few seconds on Christmas morning when the kids get to open their presents.

Like O'Leary's penalty in Italy, Houghton lobbing Pagliuca in Giants Stadium, Keane equalising at the death against the Germans, it's worth all the fuss for the one memorable moment where we all, young and old, get to collectively lose our sh1t like a kid on Christmas morning tearing their presents open.

It's been 15 years since we were there and now it will be 19 if we make it again. COYBIG.

+1. 48 team World cup with 3 in a group ? **** off.

valoren

ebbsy wrote: »

+1. 48 team World cup with 3 in a group ? **** off.

More games = more TV time = more dull games = more advertising revenue = more Money.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

The only thing more embarrassing than the Irish soccer team is Irish soccer fans.

The supposed best fans in the world. My hole.

Half the fans can't remember the games they're at because they're so locked.

The only reason they're disappointed when we don't qualify is because they've lost an opportunity to travel around a foreign country pissed out of their mind, harassing the locals and riding prostitutes.

Great lads for waving flags adorned with funny father Ted slogans and singing the fields of athenry when their team is 5 goals down. So locked they can just about understand what's going on.

But when reality sets in, and they realise the dream is over, that they have to go on holiday with their families instead of their beer bellied brothers in arms they abandon ship. They desert their team at the 80th minute. No more songs to sing. Straight to the pub and leave James McClean to blubber to a three quarters empty stadium.

Best fans in the world my hole.

I find it hilarious when the camera switches to the crowd and focuses on some glassy eyed, red faced, future massive coronary failure who is totally obliterated from drink.

There's always a comic delay of about five seconds before they realise that they are on the big screen and are then compelled to act the buffoon.

Elmer Blooker

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I can never get leaving the ground early. No matter what team I'm watching, I'll always stay to the end. It's the least you could do for your team.

I see nothing wrong with supporters voting with their feet.
I'll never forget the fans staying on to belt out "the fields" after being humiliated 4-0 by Spain at Euro '12. It was embarrassing! I would have skulked out of the stadium feeling about two inches tall long before the end if I was there. Celebrating failure is a load of b****x!
Arsenal thrashed Everton recently and Goodison Park was almost empty at the final whistle. Bayern scored 5 against Arsenal at the Emirates a couple of years ago and again the stadium was almost empty before the end. That's the way it goes.

weldoninhio

valoren wrote: »

See my post above for clarity.
Let me take a wild guess at what the World Cup will be like. It's like condensing the Champions League schedule into one month in the summer but with national teams and no home/away ties where you have to endure the likes of Basel, Rosenberg et al until the likes of Real and Bayern actually get the chance to play each other and win the thing.

Early group games at awkward times, basically sorting the wheat from the chaff until the strong South American and European teams make it to the knockout matches, where it actually get's somewhat interesting. A side story with a plucky team like South Korea or Cameroon or the U! S! A! causing upsets to pre-tournament favourites but then get knocked out anyway rendering all their running around and scoring goals completely irrelevant. Then the semi finals between a South American sides and European sides and the final winner being, let me guess, a south american or european side. So yes, yawn. Repeat every 4 years.

Much more interesting with Ireland there giving us something of interest to endure beyond watching the perpetually qualified English team and their deluded hype and then inevitably getting knocked out on penalties. To the Germans. Yawn.

If Ireland qualified were a CL side, we'd be below Rosenborg etc, we'd be Astana or Qarabag. How would that make it anymore interesting?? You were talking nonsense, got pulled up on it and are now backtracking.

seachto7

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

I find it hilarious when the camera switches to the crowd and focuses on some glassy eyed, red faced, future massive coronary failure who is totally obliterated from drink.

There's always a comic delay of about five seconds before they realise that they are on the big screen and are then compelled to act the buffoon.

It's pathetic. I'd be embarrassed. There were some right gob****es on an Off The Ball vox pop after the game the other night. It was all about them them them and how the team ruined it for them them them. Twats.
Joe.ie will lose out on clickbait material next year.
No videos of lads with traffic cones on their heads on a roundabout or cleaning up broken beer bottles, which they'd never do in Ireland either. All for the cameras.

valoren

weldoninhio wrote: »

If Ireland qualified were a CL side, we'd be below Rosenborg etc, we'd be Astana or Qarabag. How would that make it anymore interesting?? You were talking nonsense, got pulled up on it and are now backtracking.

Backtracking? If you were an Astana or Qarabeg supporter you'd love to qualify for the CL. Getting the chance to play Barca? PSG? Yes, please. You seem to misinterpret my initial comment about it being a yawn fest in terms of the quality of football and that Ireland not being there would somewhat detract from that. We are hoof merchants. It will just be another yawn fest now, with a euro or SA side winning it. Wash, rinse, repeat. See you all in Qatar.

It's a yawn fest because it's the quantity over quality. Too many games for commercial reasons, it's completely drawn out imo. Be under no illusions, we're ****. And the fans of Astana et al also know they are ****. But they support them regardless of that. They won't win the CL but they might beat PSG, that's the level our national team are at. As a football fan I want to watch Spain play Brazil when it matters in the knockout stages when it's win or go home, but as I'm Irish it is considerably less of a boring tournament if we were participating in it and particularly as it's only every four years, it is a major sporting event albeit an extremely drawn out and yes for the majority of it, dull and boring. It's a major sporting event but when we (rarely) qualify it's a national event. And once again it is about the subjective experience when we qualify not the objective nature of out **** tactics.

weldoninhio

valoren wrote: »

Backtracking? If you were an Astana or Qarabeg supporter you'd love to qualify for the CL. You seem to misinterpret my initial comment about it being a yawn fest in terms of the quality of football and that Ireland not being there would somewhat detract from that. We are hoof merchants.

It's a yawn fest because it's the quantity over quality. Be under no illusions, we're ****. And the fans of Astana et al also know they are ****. But they support them regardless of that. As a football fan I want to watch Spain play Brazil when it matters, but as I'm Irish it is considerably less of a boring tournament if we were participating in it and particularly as it's only every four years, it is a major sporting event albeit an extremely drawn out and yes for the majority of it, dull and boring. It's a major sporting event but when we (rarely) qualify it's a national event. And once again it is about the subjective experience when we qualify not the objective nature of out **** tactics.

Here's a tip for you :cool: don't bother with the group stages if you don't like it. Its quite a revolutionary tactic, but i've used it over numerous years for various things I found boring, from football to rugby to GAA and even socially for parties etc. It's also universal, works just as well for your local team as it does for FIFA World Cups.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

seachto7 wrote: »

It's pathetic. I'd be embarrassed. There were some right gob****es on an Off The Ball vox pop after the game the other night. It was all about them them them and how the team ruined it for them them them. Twats.
Joe.ie will lose out on clickbait material next year.
No videos of lads with traffic cones on their heads on a roundabout or cleaning up broken beer bottles, which they'd never do in Ireland either. All for the cameras.

The team ruined it for them??? It just ruined the opportunity for pissed up bellends in soccer jerseys (that last fit them in 2002), to send embarrassing snapchats to each other like idiotic teenagers.

There's an individual in my workplace who went to the Euros, apparently he drank 36 pints in one sitting. Fcuking disgusting behaviour.

When he came home he had to take a week off because he was 'sick.' Depressed from drinking around the fcuking clock more like for a week or two.

Ridiculous behaviour for grown men.

valoren

weldoninhio wrote: »

Here's a tip for you :cool: don't bother with the group stages if you don't like it. Its quite a revolutionary tactic, but i've used it over numerous years for various things I found boring, from football to rugby to GAA and even socially for parties etc. It's also universal, works just as well for your local team as it does for FIFA World Cups.

That's the plan :pac: Although, I'll watch the England games out of interest that's the only concession I'll make. I'm a sucker for their quadrennial hype machine!

mattser

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

The team ruined it for them??? It just ruined the opportunity for pissed up bellends in soccer jerseys (that last fit them in 2002), to send embarrassing snapchats to each other like idiotic teenagers.

There's an individual in my workplace who went to the Euros, apparently he drank 36 pints in one sitting. Fcuking disgusting behaviour.

When he came home he had to take a week off because he was 'sick.' Depressed from drinking around the fcuking clock more like for a week or two.

Ridiculous behaviour for grown men.

They should get out and attend LOI matches if they're homesick for Irish football.
99% of the leprechaun army never saw the inside of a LOI ground I'm sure.

Doltanian

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

The team ruined it for them??? It just ruined the opportunity for pissed up bellends in soccer jerseys (that last fit them in 2002), to send embarrassing snapchats to each other like idiotic teenagers.

There's an individual in my workplace who went to the Euros, apparently he drank 36 pints in one sitting. Fcuking disgusting behaviour.

When he came home he had to take a week off because he was 'sick.' Depressed from drinking around the fcuking clock more like for a week or two.

Ridiculous behaviour for grown men.

Green with envy are you? He was off doing his thing whilst you were in the office was it? I myself was thinking to go to the Euros last year but decided to bide my time hoping and thinking we might get to Russia. I am thinking to maybe do the Trans-Siberian now next summer instead and maybe take in one or two games along the way, ideally an Argentina or other Latin American team group game.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

Doltanian wrote: »

Green with envy are you? He was off doing his thing whilst you were in the office was it? I myself was thinking to go to the Euros last year but decided to bide my time hoping and thinking we might get to Russia. I am thinking to maybe do the Trans-Siberian now next summer instead and maybe take in one or two games along the way, ideally an Argentina or other Latin American team group game.

Nice one amigo, sounds like the place for you.

DEFTLEFTHAND

mattser wrote: »

They should get out and attend LOI matches if they're homesick for Irish football.
99% of the leprechaun army never saw the inside of a LOI ground I'm sure.

I've friends who actually laugh in my face when I suggest going to a game on a Friday evening. We've a team 40 mins down the road from us.

These guys consider themselves to be football men and will spend their Saturday afternoons parked on the sofa guzzling cans and watching the Premiership.

Stacksofwacks

Our biggest problem is the standard of our league. All our talent is going across the water because that's where the money is. 90% of our soccer fans support an English team and many spend money going across to watch them. While this is the case, the Irish league will never be feasible, despite some brave performances in Europe recently. Its a grand provincial league but thats all it ever will be.

What the FAI needs to do is to follow rugby's lead. Form a professional team for each province. Have a Dublin/leinster team playing out of the Aviva and a Munster team. have an Ulster team playing out of Windsor park. Then knock heads together with the Scottish and Welsh teams and form a celtic league.

Now the welsh teams are already in the English league so they may not want to leave that honey pot. So what they could do then is have the Dublin and Belfast teams apply join the Scottish league. The scottish league may not be great shakes but The idea of a Celtic/Rangers team coming to town every few months would be an attraction. Having such teams would give an outlet for keeping some of our best players in the country.

weldoninhio

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Our biggest problem is the standard of our league. All our talent is going across the water because that's where the money is. 90% of our soccer fans support an English team and many spend money going across to watch them. While this is the case, the Irish league will never be feasible, despite some brave performances in Europe recently. Its a grand provincial league but thats all it ever will be.

What the FAI needs to do is to follow rugby's lead. Form a professional team for each province. Have a Dublin/leinster team playing out of the Aviva and a Munster team. have an Ulster team playing out of Windsor park. Then knock heads together with the Scottish and Welsh teams and form a celtic league.

Now the welsh teams are already in the English league so they may not want to leave that honey pot. So what they could do then is have the Dublin and Belfast teams apply join the Scottish league. The scottish league may not be great shakes but The idea of a Celtic/Rangers team coming to town every few months would be an attraction. Having such teams would give an outlet for keeping some of our best players in the country.

The Scots already do that with one of their cups. There were a few NI and Welsh clubs in it.

Stacksofwacks

weldoninhio wrote: »

The Scots already do that with one of their cups. There were a few NI and Welsh clubs in it.

Yes but Im talking about forming 3 new teams to play in the Scottish league, one based in Dublin and the others in Munster and belfast, much like how the professional rugby teams do it

weldoninhio

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Yes but Im talking about forming 3 new teams to play in the Scottish league, one based in Dublin and the others in Munster and belfast, much like how the professional rugby teams do it

And what about the current established teams? What’s the break-even number of fans needed to make the Aviva cost effective? Would the IRFU allow Thomand be used on a biweekly by a competing sport? Who finances the teams?

Stacksofwacks

weldoninhio wrote: »

And what about the current established teams? What’s the break-even number of fans needed to make the Aviva cost effective? Would the IRFU allow Thomand be used on a biweekly by a competing sport? Who finances the teams?

Valid questions. No doubt it would affect the LOI should these teams be a success. A munster team would be problematic to get up and running given that neither Cork or Limerick has a state of the art stadium ready and available. I think a Dublin team playing out of the Aviva could definitely work. of course you need investment and people like dermot desmond willing to put their money into such a venture instead of Celtic or other such English teams. But its still something worth exploring imo

Fr_Dougal

Doltanian wrote: »

Ireland of 2002 would have defeated Spain in the last 16 had Roy Keane not threw his toys out of the pram when it most mattered. I personally think it is a disgrace he is left near the Irish team today after r talent at the moment and the FAI is ran as an old boys club with money for the boys all round.

McCarthy sent Keane home, Keane was in the right. The Genesis Report that came out vindicated him.

johnnyryan89

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Yes but Im talking about forming 3 new teams to play in the Scottish league, one based in Dublin and the others in Munster and belfast, much like how the professional rugby teams do it

Would fall on it's arse after one season, wouldn't waste my money supporting some newly made up franchise playing in the Scottish league. People love the league of ireland because it's supporting your local team in our own national league.

Stacksofwacks

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Would fall on it's arse after one season, wouldn't waste my money supporting some newly made up franchise playing in the Scottish league. People love the league of ireland because it's supporting your local team in our own national league.

It might well do and Im sure alot of people do love the LOI because of that reason but it seems to have worked for the rugby, maybe soccer is a different proposition.

pgj2015

if people got off their arses and went to some league of ireland games (12 euro a ticket) instead of paying hundreds of euro travelling to manchester or liverpool etc to support a team they have no connection to, then the league would get a lot better, and we would have teams qualifying for europa league and champions league.

Stacksofwacks

pgj2015 wrote: »

if people got off their arses and went to some league of ireland games (12 euro a ticket) instead of paying hundreds of euro travelling to manchester or liverpool etc to support a team they have no connection to, then the league would get a lot better, and we would have teams qualifying for europa league and champions league.

better standard of football, better players, better facilties, better atmosphere and all round better matchday experience. I dont have anything against the Irish league if thats your thing fair play to you but it can never compete with the the glamour of the English league.

pgj2015

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

better standard of football, better players, better facilties, better atmosphere and all round better matchday experience. I dont have anything against the Irish league if thats your thing fair play to you but it can never compete with the the glamour of the English league.

yes but the standard of our own league would improve dramatically if irish people decided to support our own league thus no need to fly to the uk to watch a match.

Stacksofwacks

pgj2015 wrote: »

yes but the standard of our own league would improve dramatically if irish people decided to support our own league thus no need to fly to the uk to watch a match.

maybe ban sky sports in our country it would be start and only show Irish league matches in pubs

pgj2015

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

maybe ban sky sports in our country it would be start and only show Irish league matches in pubs

i dont care if people dont support our own league, thats up to them, i will though, i just think its silly to say we won when talking about arsenal when you are from somewhere like achill :pac: