Mel Gibson "article" in the indo

Ash.J.Williams

She's obviously never seen lethal weapon or braveheart


https://m.independent.ie/style/voices/are-we-all-going-to-forget-mel-gibsons-vile-behaviour-on-his-road-to-redemption-36323625.html

Atrocious stuff

The Backwards Man

She just doesn't know the difference between a fcuking asshole and a complete fcuking asshole. Easy mistake to make.

super_furry

He's a racist woman beater who assaulted his partner while she was holding her baby in her arms. That's what's really atrocious.

Pac1Man

I can't help but root for the guy!

Cina

What's atrocious about it? Seems pretty spot on to me.

Or maybe it's another case of a boardsie getting upset cause a woman is writing an article about an abusive man. Heaven forbid.

The Backwards Man

super_furry wrote: »

He's an Australian

Fixed your post

Jayop

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

She's obviously never seen lethal weapon or braveheart


https://m.independent.ie/style/voices/are-we-all-going-to-forget-mel-gibsons-vile-behaviour-on-his-road-to-redemption-36323625.html

Atrocious stuff

Lol what's the problem with the article? It's an opinion piece and it's a fairly common opinion that someone with the back catalog of shameful incidents he has shouldn't be forgiven just because of a back catalog of good movies he has.

AH really hates people's opinion these days.

weareallmarks

Atrocious stuff? The fella abused his wife and also went on a racist tirade. You can say he was pissed, but i have been black out drunk and never went racist or abusive! The fella is a great actor, great business man and amazingly charasmatic! 

But the only difference between him and Weinstein etc is that he kept his victim numbers down, it wasnt sex it was violence and the pay off kept everyone quiet until the tapes came out. Awful human....................but he made lethal weapon so its graaaaaaaaaaaaand

super_furry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_qMJSPtqY

Jayop

Cina wrote: »

What's atrocious about it? Seems pretty spot on to me.

Or maybe it's another case of a boardsie getting upset cause a woman is writing an article about an abusive man. Heaven forbid.

That's exactly what it is.

hawkelady

weareallmarks wrote: »

Atrocious stuff? The fella abused his wife and also went on a racist tirade. You can say he was pissed, but i have been black out drunk and never went racist or abusive! The fella is a great actor, great business man and amazingly charasmatic! 

But the only difference between him and Weinstein etc is that he kept his victim numbers down, it wasnt sex it was violence and the pay off kept everyone quiet until the tapes came out. Awful human....................but he made lethal weapon so its graaaaaaaaaaaaand

Having a bad day , sugartits???

Specialun

super_furry wrote: »

He's a racist woman beater who assaulted his partner while she was holding her baby in my arms. That's what's really atrocious.

Why did you have the baby

Hande hoche!

I still enjoy his films. What women want has got to be among the most misogynistic rom coms ever produced.

sbsquarepants

Great actor though - just saying!

The year of living dangerously + tequila sunrise are 2 of my favourite films.

AllGunsBlazing

Definitely has a weird vibe about him.

Always came across well during his absolute heyday in the 80's and 90's, but the mask has long since slipped and he's slowly developed into a bit of a creepy auld fella. Even if he had managed to keep all his dirty laundry out of the public domain you'd still get that weird vibe.....

weareallmarks

Cina wrote: »

What's atrocious about it? Seems pretty spot on to me.

Or maybe it's another case of a boardsie getting upset cause a woman is writing an article about an abusive man. Heaven forbid.

the above post is the most worrying thing i have read today. So you are saying that if it was a fella that wrote the article we wouldnt be so annoyed! jesus pal! look in the mirror!

wes

The article raises a valid point. Gibson got up to some seriously dodgy crap.

blue note

I think that article touches on a very important point. While we're outraged by all of the recent claims, but we're happy to ignore the older ones such as Mel Gibson's. Roman Polanski's case is the worst of all as far as I can see. He was convicted of more serious crimes than any of the guys in the current spat of allegations have been accused of (and in some cases admitted to), yet most of Hollywood seemed honoured to be chosen to work with him. And they gave him a standing ovation at the Oscars. Including men and women who have spoken out about what's come to light to the general public now.

I have my doubts about the sincerity of a lot of the outrage about all these cases now. And the fact that people were happy to ignore cases like these up to when the Weinstein story broke would suggest to me that a lot of it is sadly going along with what's expected of them instead of actually having morals and sticking by them. And it's that very attitude that allowed all of this to happen in the first place.

Agricola

Have to laugh at him in group interviews these days. He doesn't say an awful lot, is very stilted and usually just about comes across as abit odd. I'd say he's mad as arseholes though and has completely disappeared up his own hoop. A bit like a violent, alcoholic Micheal Flatley.

Before I click, it's not a Louise O'Whatever article, is it? Or Amanda Brunker? Bunker?

Prune Tracy

weareallmarks wrote: »

the above post is the most worrying thing i have read today. So you are saying that if it was a fella that wrote the article we wouldnt be so annoyed! jesus pal! look in the mirror!

They're agreeing with you. They're questioning people having an issue with the article, and wondering if the problem is that a woman wrote it.

That's the most worrying thing you've read today?!

But anyway, yeah he has done some hideous things - I heard the recording, Jesus Christ. I have read he turned over a new leaf though.

valoren

Hollywood is a cesspit as we find out more and more about the toxic machinations in that industry.
Is it any surprise that Gibson, a wife beating, alcoholic arsehole was never deemed persona non grata there?

brainfreeze

I always wonder with these type of articles, how to the writers pick their targets? There is nothing wrong with a moral outrage hit piece every now again, however the article starts with:

Will Ferrell, Mark Wahlberg, John Lithgow and er…Mel Gibson

Mark Wahlberg has done far worse things than Mel Gibson. What makes Mel Gibson special and Mark Wahlberg normal? Why did she choose one over the other?

Mel Gibson has said racist things, Mark Wahlberg has committed racial violence, even blinding a man for simply being Vietnamese.

Why is Mark, the far more violent man, more forgivable than Mel?

Answer: The Journalist doesn't know enough about either subject. Her gaps on Gibson are even acknowledged in the article - she probably has no idea about Wahlberg. This is not journalism, this is a badly researched rant created to capitalize on your emotions. This is the standard of a blog post.

valoren

brainfreeze wrote: »

I always wonder with these type of articles, how to the writers pick their targets? There is nothing wrong with a moral outrage hit piece every now again, however the article starts with:



Mark Wahlberg has done far worse things than Mel Gibson. What makes Mel Gibson special and Mark Wahlberg normal? Why did she choose one over the other?

Mel Gibson has said racist things, Mark Wahlberg has committed racial violence, even blinding a man for simply being Vietnamese.

Why is Mark, the far more violent man, more forgivable than Mel?

Answer: The Journalist doesn't know enough about either subject. Her gaps on Gibson are even acknowledged in the article - she probably has no idea about Wahlberg. This is not journalism, this is a badly researched rant created to capitalize on your emotions. This is the standard of a blog post.

Fortunately for Marky Mark none of his behavior was recorded for posterity. As such it can be buried away in court documents, he could just make up his own version of events today if confronted, as in, it didn't happen like that/it was an accident etc etc unlike Gibson who was an A-list actor who got recorded acting disgracefully in the internet age where his actions were divulged instantaneously and to which he could have zero comeback against.

cantdecide

Cina wrote: »

What's atrocious about it? Seems pretty spot on to me.

Or maybe it's another case of a boardsie getting upset cause a woman is writing an article about an abusive man. Heaven forbid.

It depends on whether she's trying to use Mel Gibson's bad behaviour to tar all men, which she hasn't (there appears to be a market for that kind of thing- it's quite popular) and managed to stay on point and I agree with her - he's a vile man and is probably way past any kind of redemption. It's just proof of what Hollywood will give a pass to. I doubt if this all would have happened if the project was for launch in 2018.

Dravokivich

So wait... how come we weren't outraged the last time Redemption Mel was over?

Tayschren

I like like a lot of his movies,

The rest I will leave to the sanctimonious wasters with nothing better to do than read the indo,

MysticMonk

Fcuck the Indo..a load of marxist claptrap.

jmayo

The Backwards Man wrote: »

She just doesn't know the difference between a fcuking asshole and a complete fcuking asshole. Easy mistake to make.

She does seem to be really peed off that "Hacksaw Ridge, his first directorial turn in 10 years was nominated for five Oscars this year"

He might be a complete asshole, but he makes some good movies and movies people actually like.
There are lots of cases in the arts and in sport where people are very good at their craft, create or perform brilliantly, but they are some of the most obnoxious people on earth.

Hollywood is quick to forgive those if they are successful and bring in the money.
And it is very much the same in sport where complete ar**holes are forgiven their sins just because they are winners.
Losers are never given the same leeway.

valoren

I guess they see Gibson as a first rate director at a cut rate price.
It's not like he will turn down material as he would be keen to work.
Also there would be no need to take out enormous insurance clauses when hiring him either, he knows himself how it works.
And seeing as he is seemingly chastened then he can be controlled by the production staff.
So, welcome back Mel!

Prune Tracy

Tayschren wrote: »

I like like a lot of his movies,

The rest I will leave to the sanctimonious wasters with nothing better to do than read the indo,

I like a lot of his movies too but I really don't understand what's sanctimonious about criticising domestic abuse?

MysticMonk wrote: »

Fcuck the Indo..a load of marxist claptrap.

:pac:
Seeing as you couldn't get a more anti public sector and pro commercial enterprise publication than the Indo, I take it you don't know what marxist means.

super_furry

MysticMonk wrote: »

Fcuck the Indo..a load of marxist claptrap.

I just hope that my quite brilliant adblocker results in no increase in advertising revenue for Independent Newspapers whenever I have the misfortune of ending up on the website of those rags.

Hideous journalism, in the hideous pseudo-profession of journalism in the most hideous of newspaper companies. It will be a great day for democracy in Ireland when the in-bred rightwing, anti-Irish, anti-republican anglocentric sycophants and dullards who run it are all made unemployed.

That day is not too far off at all, buíochas le Dia.

Hande hoche!

I dislike the Indo as much as the next man, still find it amusing that's accused of being both Marxist and Right wing.

suicide_circus

Ash.J.Williams

Deleted User wrote: »

I just hope that my quite brilliant adblocker results in no increase in advertising revenue for Independent Newspapers whenever I have the misfortune of ending up on the website of those rags.

Hideous journalism, in the hideous pseudo-profession of journalism in the most hideous of newspaper companies. It will be a great day for democracy in Ireland when the in-bred rightwing, anti-Irish, anti-republican anglocentric sycophants and dullards who run it are all made unemployed.

That day is not too far off at all, buíochas le Dia.

I look forward to your republican utopia

DredFX

Deleted User wrote: »

It will be a great day for democracy in Ireland when the in-bred rightwing, anti-Irish, anti-republican anglocentric sycophants and dullards who run it are all made unemployed.

Tiocfaidh ár lá

Prune Tracy

Deleted User wrote: »

I just hope that my quite brilliant adblocker results in no increase in advertising revenue for Independent Newspapers whenever I have the misfortune of ending up on the website of those rags.

Hideous journalism, in the hideous pseudo-profession of journalism in the most hideous of newspaper companies. It will be a great day for democracy in Ireland when the in-bred rightwing, anti-Irish, anti-republican anglocentric sycophants and dullards who run it are all made unemployed.

That day is not too far off at all, buíochas le Dia.

A criticism of a man who was abusive to his partner and racially abusive prompts the above response?

SEPT 23 1989

thank you Mel

Hector Savage

I kind of agree with the article ... but at the same time, It's Mel F*cking Gibson like ... LEGEND !!!

Hector Savage

Jsysus!!!

Ficheall

super_furry wrote: »

I find this more offensive than anything else mentioned in the thread.

Grayson

Ficheall wrote: »

I find this more offensive than anything else mentioned in the thread.

Don't like hispanics?

Ficheall

Grayson wrote: »

Don't like hispanics?

No, I'm a fan of The Princess Bride.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Hector Savage wrote: »

Jsysus!!!

If it wasn't for the fact that he has actually done physical harm to this woman (and uses the threat of violence again in that recording) I would nearly give him a pass, as an angry alcoholic with a type of personality disorder. But the fact he has admitted to hitting her in the past puts the whole thing firmly over the 'no coming back from it' line. Gibson has had to fund many of his own projects over the past decade as no one would work or finance him, but it seems like he has been welcomed back into the Hollywood fold now once again, which I don't think is right.

I agree with the poster who mentioned the article is poorly researched because it omits Mark Wahlberg's past crimes, which were so violent he ended up serving jail time.

Ultimately, both Gibson and Wahlberg have proven to be box office winners over and over and over again, and that's all that Hollywood really cares about.

Hande hoche!

Grayson wrote: »

Don't like hispanics?

Now I fancy a taco bowl.

blue note

brainfreeze wrote: »

I always wonder with these type of articles, how to the writers pick their targets? There is nothing wrong with a moral outrage hit piece every now again, however the article starts with:



Mark Wahlberg has done far worse things than Mel Gibson. What makes Mel Gibson special and Mark Wahlberg normal? Why did she choose one over the other?

Mel Gibson has said racist things, Mark Wahlberg has committed racial violence, even blinding a man for simply being Vietnamese.

Why is Mark, the far more violent man, more forgivable than Mel?

Answer: The Journalist doesn't know enough about either subject. Her gaps on Gibson are even acknowledged in the article - she probably has no idea about Wahlberg. This is not journalism, this is a badly researched rant created to capitalize on your emotions. This is the standard of a blog post.

Fair enough she should have done her research, but the point is kind of the same isn't it? That there's essentially an willingness to ignore some incidents and be outraged by others. And the severity of each is largely irrelevant.

Outlaw Pete

His ex sounded like a right head wrecker. As she was aware the calls were being recorded we are unlikely to know what she was generally like. Anyway, she lost a fair chunk of change cause she didn't stick to the terms of the settlement with regards to keeping her trap shut.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/11/mel-gibson-baby-mama-oksana-grigorieva-settlement-domestic-violence/

PeterParker957

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

His ex sounded like a right head wrecker. As she was aware the calls were being recorded we are unlikely to know what she was generally like. Anyway, she lost a fair chunk of change cause she didn't stick to the terms of the settlement with regards to keeping her trap shut.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/11/mel-gibson-baby-mama-oksana-grigorieva-settlement-domestic-violence/

Same with that Amber Heard sort. Absolutely bad s**t crazy. I'd be no Johnny Depp fan myself but Jesus I'd side with him on that one.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

His ex sounded like a right head wrecker. As she was aware the calls were being recorded we are unlikely to know what she was generally like. Anyway, she lost a fair chunk of change cause she didn't stick to the terms of the settlement with regards to keeping her trap shut.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/11/mel-gibson-baby-mama-oksana-grigorieva-settlement-domestic-violence/

Woah! She would have got $15 million if she simply did nothing. She must be ridiculously stupid.

Related to that, the Howard Stern Show pops up time and time again in controversies. Such as that, the George Takei grabbing dicks comment, plenty of Donald Trump clips talking about sex, and there must be other examples that I just can't remember off the top of my head right now. If you have anything to to hide, don't appear on that show lol.

HandsomeBob

The person who wrote the article doesn't do herself any favours by sneering at the calibre of actors such as Andrew Garfield.

It is what it is with Mel. He was/is an abusive alcoholic who crossed the line and paid for it for being blackballed and ostracized. That's why comparisons to the likes of Polanski, Allen and Weinstein do not work; they were indulged, while Mel was (rightfully) condemned.

He paid for his actions and now has the right to get his career back. You have the right to not partake in that, but I also have the right to do so without being labelled as an apologist or enabler or whatever other bollox that helps fill the page.