Mel Gibson "article" in the indo

The biggest crime here (which hasn't been long discussed and punished in some form) is that Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg have made a sequel to fúcking Daddy's Home, and not The Other Guys.

The Indo piece is a distraction to take our attention away from this. Wake up sheeple.

Weepsie

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

She's obviously never seen lethal weapon or braveheart


https://m.independent.ie/style/voices/are-we-all-going-to-forget-mel-gibsons-vile-behaviour-on-his-road-to-redemption-36323625.html

Atrocious stuff

Braveheart is an utterly atrocious film and he's a proven racist, anti Semite and wife beater...spot on

Plague Maiden

Weepsie wrote: »

Braveheart is an utterly atrocious film

He's an excellent director of action scenes. Some of the chase sequences in Apocolypto are masterfully put together.

Braveheart is egregiously inaccurate, sentimental and hasn't aged awfully well, but it's not a poorly directed film.

JP Liz V1

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Great actor though - just saying!

The year of living dangerously + tequila sunrise are 2 of my favourite films.

Tequila Sunrise is very underrated and Mel is hot as f&ck in it

Ralf and Florian

MysticMonk wrote: »

Fcuck the Indo..a load of marxist claptrap.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when the Indo is referred to as "Marxist". Claptrap it is, a hotbed of leftist ideals it ain't.

RayM

Great guy, great guy... What was that thing he said to his ex again? Something about her being embarrassing or something?

"You're an embarrassment to me. You look like a f**king bitch in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of n***ers, it will be your fault."

Ah yes, that was it. Anyway, top bloke. What a lad... always joking around. Glad to see he has his defenders on here.

HandsomeBob

RayM wrote: »

Great guy, great guy... What was that thing he said to his ex again? Something about her being embarrassing or something?

"You're an embarrassment to me. You look like a f**king bitch in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of n***ers, it will be your fault."

Ah yes, that was it. Anyway, top bloke. What a lad... always joking around. Glad to see he has his defenders on here.

I don't think anyone said he was a "top bloke". As said previously, what he did on more than one occasion was disgusting, an abusive alcoholic let run riot. Gibson though at least paid for his sins unlike some certain others and, as far as we know, kept his nose clean for a long time. So while I don't like the bloke, I don't begrudge him putting the pieces of his career back together.

Not like anyone on here though to come barging In, skim through the thread to find one or two things to suit their outrage, and duly get on one's high horse.

razorblunt

HandsomeBob wrote: »

I don't think anyone said he was a "top bloke". As said previously, what he did on more than one occasion was disgusting, an abusive alcoholic let run riot. Gibson though at least paid for his sins unlike some certain others and, as far as we know, kept his nose clean for a long time. So while I don't like the bloke, I don't begrudge him putting the pieces of his career back together.

Not like anyone on here though to come barging In, skim through the thread to find one or two things to suit their outrage, and duly get on one's high horse.

Hey, you know when a poster who keys cars thinks you're a bad dude, that means ... you're a bad dude!

The J Stands for Jay

jonon9 wrote: »

this is AFTER HOURS, your gonna get your mickey pulled.

We'll, here's hoping...

splinter65

MG is just one of those movie stars.
Between Lethal Weapon and Mad Max alone he has a **** tonne of fans who just love him.
Human nature is such that people don’t give a damn really if he ate his own granny, they just love MG.
I see this morning Sylvester Stallone is being added to the list of the shameful.
SS is similar to MG.
A proper movie star and a hero to many.
No one liked Kevin Spacey anyway.
Oh he’s a great actor, but not held in anything like the admiration that the likes of these other 2 are.
It’s long past the time that people in power are being brought to heel for abusing that power, but it’s stupid to think that human nature can be changed when it comes to who we love.
Where is the hatred for Jimmy Page and the rest of LED Zeppelin etc.?

kunst nugget

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

I never thought I'd live to see the day when the Indo is referred to as "Marxist". Claptrap it is, a hotbed of leftist ideals it ain't.

Every media outlet in Ireland is a hotbed of marxism according to some posters on here.

A Little Pony

HandsomeBob wrote: »

RayM wrote: »

Great guy, great guy... What was that thing he said to his ex again? Something about her being embarrassing or something?

"You're an embarrassment to me. You look like a f**king bitch in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of n***ers, it will be your fault."

Ah yes, that was it. Anyway, top bloke. What a lad... always joking around. Glad to see he has his defenders on here.

I don't think anyone said he was a "top bloke". As said previously, what he did on more than one occasion was disgusting, an abusive alcoholic let run riot. Gibson though at least paid for his sins unlike some certain others and, as far as we know, kept his nose clean for a long time. So while I don't like the bloke, I don't begrudge him putting the pieces of his career back together.

Not like anyone on here though to come barging In, skim through the thread to find one or two things to suit their outrage, and duly get on one's high horse.

If everyone of us was filmed or had a recording mic on them none of us would come out of it squeeky clean. Some people just like to think they are angels, it's not how the world works.

A Little Pony

Weepsie wrote: »

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

She's obviously never seen lethal weapon or braveheart


https://m.independent.ie/style/voices/are-we-all-going-to-forget-mel-gibsons-vile-behaviour-on-his-road-to-redemption-36323625.html

Atrocious stuff

Braveheart is an utterly atrocious film and he's a proven racist, anti Semite and wife beater...spot on

What a load of absolute nonsense.

Prune Tracy

A Little Pony wrote: »

If everyone of us was filmed or had a recording mic on them none of us would come out of it squeeky clean. Some people just like to think they are angels, it's not how the world works.

Yeah everyone is really a domestic abuser.

Nobody whatsoever said everyone is squeaky clean or that they're angels - but there are varying degrees of wrongdoing. A huge spectrum actually.

A Little Pony

Prune Tracy wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

If everyone of us was filmed or had a recording mic on them none of us would come out of it squeeky clean. Some people just like to think they are angels, it's not how the world works.

Yeah everyone is really a domestic abuser.

Nobody whatsoever said everyone is squeaky clean or that they're angels - but there are varying degrees of wrongdoing. A huge spectrum actually.

I wasn't talking about the domestic abuse.

Hande hoche!

Him and Antonio Banderas were about the only decent thing about Expendables 3.

Arghus

Mel produces a lot of cognitive dissonance in me.

On one hand: He's clearly a lunatic.

On the other hand: He's made or starred in a lot of classic movies and he's a first-rate director of action and blood and guts spilling carnage - seriously the man has got skills, formidable skills in this department; the action sequences in Braveheart, Apocalyptco and Hacksaw Ridge are amazing, far far better than just something just churned out by a famous actor lucky enough to get behind the camera. The politics in those movies might be profoundly dodgy, but I have to admire his craft. And he has so much charisma - Jesus Christ! In his current iteration as the ghost of Mel Gibson past, turning up in dreck such as Daddy's Home 2 or enjoyably trashy b-movies like Blood Father, he's just so watchable - he's clearly a 100% bona-fide movie star slumming it in thrash.

But he's a lunatic.

So Mel is a crazy guy who has done some awful, awful things - I don't think I like him very much. But I also kind of love him.

storker

Arghus wrote: »

Mel produces a lot of cognitive dissonance in me.

On one hand: He's clearly a lunatic.[...] But I also kind of love him.

I've resolved that with regard to him and others like him whose work I enjoy. I also think he's a good director and not a bad actor either. Yes, off-camera he gives every appearance of a complete jerk, to put it kindly. But here's the thing: I will never have to direct him, star with him, work with him, work for him, date him, live with him or marry him, drive him, serve him food or drink or bear him children.

So I don't care. Note: that's not "I don't care I still think hes brilliant" it's "I don't care that he's obviously a jerk" because it doesn't affect me. If others decline to cast him on movies because of his behaviour, I don't care about that either, I'd still enjoy his existing work. Except Lethal Weapon.

Hammer89

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Mel Gibson could probably punch my mother in the face and id still thing he was a fairly cool guy. :pac:

If that mother was Katie Hopkins I personally think it'd make up for a lot of his past indiscretions.

pitifulgod

brainfreeze wrote: »

I always wonder with these type of articles, how to the writers pick their targets? There is nothing wrong with a moral outrage hit piece every now again, however the article starts with:



Mark Wahlberg has done far worse things than Mel Gibson. What makes Mel Gibson special and Mark Wahlberg normal? Why did she choose one over the other?

Mel Gibson has said racist things, Mark Wahlberg has committed racial violence, even blinding a man for simply being Vietnamese.

Why is Mark, the far more violent man, more forgivable than Mel?

Answer: The Journalist doesn't know enough about either subject. Her gaps on Gibson are even acknowledged in the article - she probably has no idea about Wahlberg. This is not journalism, this is a badly researched rant created to capitalize on your emotions. This is the standard of a blog post.

Wahlberg made significant efforts in recent years to atone for it. He went out of his way to apologise to the Vietnamese man. The man had lost his eye in the Vietnam war, Wahlberg was under the impression that he blinded him. He was 16 years of age and has shown clear remorse for his behaviour. He had a highly trouble background however I am under the impression that he genuinely feels terrible about his behaviour in the past.

Meanwhile Polanski, Gibson et al were fully grown adults they perpetrated terrible acts and pretty much got away scott free. Polanski a rapist of numerous women by the looks of things. Gibson engaging in domestic abuse and he's not the only one, you've got Depp as well. Although Gibson did get somewhat of a blacklisting and perhaps he has reformed but I have very little time for him. Being a drunk isn't an excuse to abuse.

retro:electro

Gibson was only blacklisted when he made anti- Semitic comments, as Hollywood is built upon Jewish money. It all comes back to being about money whatever way you look at it. Money is numero uno. Morals have feck all to do with anything in Hollyweird.

Aethan Dor

The thing that also bothered me in the Indo article and evidence of further poor research in lieu of the writers agenda is their use of comparison between Chris Brown and Winona Ryder.

In that it mentions Chris Brown going on to have a (never heard of ) Docu show on Netflix as a sign of his bad behaviour not affecting his career but believing Winona Ryder to be blacklisted since her shoplifting incident yet totally ignoring her recent starring role in one of Netflixs biggest recent successes on Stranger Things 1 + 2

take everything

Is he on the Late Late tonight

Purple Mountain

take everything wrote: »

Is he on the Late Late tonight

Yes prerecorded.

ceadaoin.

Aethan Dor wrote: »

The thing that also bothered me in the Indo article and evidence of further poor research in lieu of the writers agenda is their use of comparison between Chris Brown and Winona Ryder.

In that it mentions Chris Brown going on to have a (never heard of ) Docu show on Netflix as a sign of his bad behaviour not affecting his career but believing Winona Ryder to be blacklisted since her shoplifting incident yet totally ignoring her recent starring role in one of Netflixs biggest recent successes on Stranger Things 1 + 2

She had pretty much disappeared before stranger things. It was very odd for someone who was such a huge star in the 80s and early 90s

Atoms for Peace

What I like about Mel is that he doesn't act like he's some kind of precious artist say like pretentious Hollywood blowhards like Johnny Depp, who's also a violent misogynist as well as being a dog smuggler:rolleyes:.
In many ways Mel probably nearer to a real artist than most in Hollywood as there isn't too many who would take the risk of making the likes of the passion of the Christ and apocalyto.

Avatar MIA

What Mel Gibson really said in that famous Braveheart speech, but got edited.

"They may take OUR wives! No, seriously... they can take our wives."

True story!

Ipso

That picture reminds me of this great criticism of the film.
"a wild and hairy highlander painted with woad (1,000 years too late) running amok in a tartan kilt (500 years too early)."

Prune Tracy

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

What I like about Mel is that he doesn't act like he's some kind of precious artist say like pretentious Hollywood blowhards like Johnny Depp, who's also a violent misogynist as well as being a dog smuggler:rolleyes:.
In many ways Mel probably nearer to a real artist than most in Hollywood as there isn't too many who would take the risk of making the likes of the passion of the Christ and apocalyto.

While I can totally separate the art from the person, the downplaying and glossing over is a bit much here tbh. It's not ideal when those you admire turn out to be awful, but that's no grounds for acting as though they've done nothing wrong either.

RayM

A Little Pony wrote: »

If everyone of us was filmed or had a recording mic on them none of us would come out of it squeeky clean. Some people just like to think they are angels, it's not how the world works.

Exactly. Who among us can, hand on heart, say we've never told someone that we hope they get "raped by a pack of n**gers"?

Outlaw Pete

Indeed, sure it's all the rage these days.

RayM

Typical, innit? These black rap artists can use the 'N' word whenever they like, whatever the context, and nobody complains, but poor old Mel uses it once while expressing his embarrassment with his ex (who looks like a bitch in heat and therefore deserves to get raped) and he's suddenly public enemy number one.

Dick phelan

Gibson is no doubt a nasty piece of work imo but damn can the man act and direct in some great movies, personally i think with the exception of a few unforgivable crimes most people once they do the time should be allowed to resume their work, i have never looked to celebrities for moral guidance i look to them for entertainment which Gibson has provided many times. As for Mark Wahlberg he commited a serious crime decades ago, isn't it possible the man could actually be a reformed character? How long do you judge somebody by a previous crime by. What he did was very wrong but there's many of cases of people who have done even worse and are now very decent members of society.

WHIP IT!

Careful coming in here with all those rational, non-hysterical thoughts and common sense... it doesn't go down well with the loo-las...

Question for, well, everybody...
Have you ever said "I'll feckin kill ya!" to your brother/sister/husband/wife/bf/gf/child/mate?
..... did you mean it?

Outlaw Pete

RayM wrote: »

Typical, innit? These black rap artists can use the 'N' word whenever they like, whatever the context, and nobody complains.....

She didn't use the 'N word' in that tweet. Well, at least not the really bad 'N word'.

I was simply referencing the fact that she had also wished rape on someone, just like Mel had.

And why did you bring Azealia's skin colour into it? That's not very progressive of you, Raymond.

RayM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

She didn't use the 'N word' in that tweet. Well, at least not the really bad 'N word'.

I was simply referencing the fact that she had also wished rape on someone, just like Mel had.

And why did you bring Azealia's skin colour into it? That's not very progressive of you, Raymond.

I'm just glad that we have men like you on Boards, who, whenever a man is criticised for doing something awful, will not only step up and defend him, but will also go out of his way to find an example of a woman doing something similar (albeit not accompanied by domestic violence).

storker

RayM wrote: »

Typical, innit? These black rap artists can use the 'N' word whenever they like, whatever the context, and nobody complains, but poor old Mel uses it once while expressing his embarrassment with his ex (who looks like a bitch in heat and therefore deserves to get raped) and he's suddenly public enemy number one.

From a "Letter" to Viz:

"How come rap artist Dr Dre can use then N word whenever he likes but when I use it at my son's football match I am asked to leave the park. Once again it's one law for the rich and another for everyone else."

Prune Tracy

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Careful coming in here with all those rational, non-hysterical thoughts and common sense... it doesn't go down well with the loo-las...

Question for, well, everybody...
Have you ever said "I'll feckin kill ya!" to your brother/sister/husband/wife/bf/gf/child/mate?
..... did you mean it?

Yeah that is so comparable to what Mel did.

Could you point out the loo-las? Just to let you know first, a person who doesn't agree with you is not a loo-la. Could you advise too how criticism of domestic abuse is loo-la?

Being a fan of Mel Gibson and wanting to see his career resurrect is not an issue imo - but defending him and downplaying domestic abuse is... well pretty loo-la.