National pride

Synthol

What's up with the national anthems and being proud of your own country? To the point where you would cause conflict. It's literally a piece of land that you were born on by pure luck, borders were drawn with a pencil and then the people said this land is mine! It's the same piece of land as everywhere else. Imagine how great a world would be if it was just a single country with no borders and would be just like the earth has intended instead of imaginary borders drawn with a pencil by humans who decided that this particular piece of land is mine! And everyone should be proud of being born on this specific piece of land which is the same as all the others, but imaginary borders!

Synthol

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Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

Fecking hell

RobbingBandit

My country tis of thee
Austria Hungry
Obey Your King

castletownman

Synthol wrote: »

What's up with the national anthems and being proud of your own country? To the point where you would cause conflict. It's literally a piece of land that you were born on by pure luck, borders were drawn with a pencil and then the people said this land is mine! It's the same piece of land as everywhere else. Imagine how great a world would be if it was just a single country with no borders and would be just like the earth has intended instead of imaginary borders drawn with a pencil by humans who decided that this particular piece of land is mine! And everyone should be proud of being born on this specific piece of land which is the same as all the others, but imaginary borders!

But if there was no borders, and the world was essentially a single country, how could we defend our title as the greatest football fans in the world?

Junkyard Tom

I reckon this is one of the funniest gifs on the internet.

Ulysses Gaze

Synthol wrote: »

What's up with the national anthems and being proud of your own country? To the point where you would cause conflict. It's literally a piece of land that you were born on by pure luck, borders were drawn with a pencil and then the people said this land is mine! It's the same piece of land as everywhere else. Imagine how great a world would be if it was just a single country with no borders and would be just like the earth has intended instead of imaginary borders drawn with a pencil by humans who decided that this particular piece of land is mine! And everyone should be proud of being born on this specific piece of land which is the same as all the others, but imaginary borders!

Humans would kick the **** out of each other regardless of whether there were open or closed borders.

It is in our DNA.

This Socialist concept of the "Brotherhood of Man" where everyone lives in peace and harmony is a myth.

It will never happen.

gramar

Synthol wrote: »

What's up with the national anthems and being proud of your own country? To the point where you would cause conflict. It's literally a piece of land that you were born on by pure luck, borders were drawn with a pencil and then the people said this land is mine! It's the same piece of land as everywhere else. Imagine how great a world would be if it was just a single country with no borders and would be just like the earth has intended instead of imaginary borders drawn with a pencil by humans who decided that this particular piece of land is mine! And everyone should be proud of being born on this specific piece of land which is the same as all the others, but imaginary borders!

A lot of borders were drawn by blood.

If there were none people would make them.

Synthol

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Humans would kick the **** out of each other regardless of whether there were open or closed borders.

It is in our DNA.

This Socialist concept of the "Brotherhood of Man" where everyone lives in peace and harmony is a myth.

It will never happen.

With that attitude, of course it won't.

Hammer89

Synthol wrote: »

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Have you considered blasting Ireland with piss?

Synthol

gramar wrote: »

A lot of borders were drawn by blood.

If there were none people would make them.

Literally drawn by blood?

gramar

Synthol wrote: »

Literally drawn by blood?

Literally man.

Hitman3000

Synthol wrote:

What's up with the national anthems and being proud of your own country? To the point where you would cause conflict. It's literally a piece of land that you were born on by pure luck, borders were drawn with a pencil and then the people said this land is mine! It's the same piece of land as everywhere else. Imagine how great a world would be if it was just a single country with no borders and would be just like the earth has intended instead of imaginary borders drawn with a pencil by humans who decided that this particular piece of land is mine! And everyone should be proud of being born on this specific piece of land which is the same as all the others, but imaginary borders!

Synthol are you Soros or Sutherland?

Pac1Man

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I reckon this is one of the funniest gifs on the internet.

Jesus. How many dogs are in that car?

Ulysses Gaze

Synthol wrote: »

With that attitude, of course it won't.

It will NEVER happen.

Even if the current capitalist system collapses and is replaced with Socialist/Communist one, it will not work.

If that happens, it will be a different type of 1% that rule with an Iron Fist. And no Communist country has ever seen the mass of its populous living in anything but misery.

And if you mention Sweden, I would say that that is not even a really equal Socialist Democracy. Look at where they throw their "International Brethern" from the Third World. Out into the slums, throw them a few kroner here and there and let them rot.

This "International Brotherhood of Man" will never, ever exist. Except as a theoretical concept.

Synthol

gramar wrote: »

Literally man.

Evidence plz

Hitman3000

Synthol wrote:

Literally drawn by blood?

Twas easier find blood than ink, plus cheaper. Dip your quill in a vein.

gramar

Synthol wrote: »

Evidence plz

Well you're on boards so I'm guessing you have the internet so why don't you inform yourself but as a starting point I'd suggest going no further than the border between the Republic and The North.

Ipso

Leia Thankful Mucus wrote: »

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...

The working class hero (who lived in a multi million dollar apartment on Central Park) was right.

Synthol

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

It will NEVER happen.

Even if the current capitalist system collapses and is replaced with Socialist/Communist one, it will not work.

If that happens, it will be a different type of 1% that rule with an Iron Fist. And no Communist country has ever seen the mass of its populous living in anything but misery.

And if you mention Sweden, I would say that that is not even a really equal Socialist Democracy. Look at where they throw their "International Brethern" from the Third World. Out into the slums, throw them a few kroner here and there and let them rot.

This "International Brotherhood of Man" will never, ever work.

This is the attitude that stops change from happening but don't worry there will always be people like you and there will always be people who think outside the box. 500 years ago, people would have called you a fool and publicly executed you for madness if you said that humans can travel in the air or use computers.

Ipso

Synthol wrote: »

This is the attitude that stops change from happening but don't worry there will always be people like you and there will always be people who think outside the box. 500 years ago, people would have called you a fool and publicly executed you for madness if you said that humans can travel in the air or use computers.

Top notch comparison.

Synthol

gramar wrote: »

Well you're on boards so I'm guessing you have the internet so why don't you inform yourself but as a starting point I'd suggest going no further than the border between the Republic and The North.

So they took a piece of paper, slit their hand and drawn the blood into an ink holder and drawn the borders that way? You know what literally means?

Odhinn

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Synthol are you Soros or Sutherland?

How do you know Soros and Sutherland are two different "people" and not just one lizard being with two skin suits?

Ulysses Gaze

Odhinn wrote: »

How do you know Soros and Sutherland are two different "people" and not just one lizard being with two skin suits?

Ulysses Gaze

Synthol wrote: »

This is the attitude that stops change from happening but don't worry there will always be people like you and there will always be people who think outside the box. 500 years ago, people would have called you a fool and publicly executed you for madness if you said that humans can travel in the air or use computers.

Well Da Vinci concepted a lot of fantastical products in the 1500's such as helicopters, parachutes etc and he kept his head.

Hitman3000

Odhinn wrote:

How do you know Soros and Sutherland are two different "people" and not just one lizard being with two skin suits?

You could be right never seen the two of them in the same room together mmmm....

Hitman3000

Ulysses Gaze wrote:

Well Da Vinci concepted a lot of fantastical products in the 1500's such as helicopters, parachutes etc and he kept his head.

Now now away your talking sense and using facts.

Collie D

What about the Rio Grande, the Irish Sea, the Alps, etc? Who drew those, OP?

bear1

We are through the looking glass here people!

wakka12

I don't see anything wrong having nationalities. I think it makes us all interesting in our own way

Grayson

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You could be right never seen the two of them in the same room together mmmm....

Like the Olson twin.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't see anything wrong having nationalities. I think it makes us all interesting in our own way

Having individuality and personality is what makes people interesting, and that doesn't come from a nationality.

I've no problem with nationality but when there's excessvie pride about it it just becomes arrogant. Ireland is the best country in the world? Why - because they were born there?

Mint Sauce

Synthol wrote: »

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See what you did there.

Help!!!!

Synthol wrote: »

What's up with the national anthems and being proud of your own country? To the point where you would cause conflict. It's literally a piece of land that you were born on by pure luck, borders were drawn with a pencil and then the people said this land is mine! It's the same piece of land as everywhere else. Imagine how great a world would be if it was just a single country with no borders and would be just like the earth has intended instead of imaginary borders drawn with a pencil by humans who decided that this particular piece of land is mine! And everyone should be proud of being born on this specific piece of land which is the same as all the others, but imaginary borders!

Do you lock your door when you leave your house?

Jawgap

Ah sure then you wouldn't get moments like Fitzgerald in Lansdowne Road.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVVuzOKBoCY

Ipso

In the spirit of this thread I am embarking in an outreach trip to Syria to get to know my ISIS brethren and to embrace them to my bosom.

milehip

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

It will NEVER happen.

Even if the current capitalist system collapses and is replaced with Socialist/Communist one, it will not work.

If that happens, it will be a different type of 1% that rule with an Iron Fist. And no Communist country has ever seen the mass of its populous living in anything but misery.

And if you mention Sweden, I would say that that is not even a really equal Socialist Democracy. Look at where they throw their "International Brethern" from the Third World. Out into the slums, throw them a few kroner here and there and let them rot.

This "International Brotherhood of Man" will never, ever exist. Except as a theoretical concept.

It could if we were invaded by aliens and we had to fight for survival we might all band together,but of course there always be a few collaborators,probably the Dutch.

Synthol

Help!!!! wrote: »

Do you lock your door when you leave your house?

No

Synthol

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Well Da Vinci concepted a lot of fantastical products in the 1500's such as helicopters, parachutes etc and he kept his head.

Ok add another 2000 years, better?

Help!!!!

Synthol wrote: »

No

Oh good so you live by your ideology then:rolleyes:

Ulysses Gaze

Synthol wrote: »

Ok add another 2000 years, better?

A borderless world will never happen.

Ever.

Synthol

Help!!!! wrote: »

Oh good so you live by your ideology then:rolleyes:

Of course.

Synthol

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

A borderless world will never happen.

Ever.

Listen up everybody, Ulysses Gaze said that it will never happen so that means that it will never happen. How do you know what the world will look like in 10 000 years? You can only guess

Ulysses Gaze

Synthol wrote: »

Listen up everybody, Ulysses Gaze said that it will never happen so that means that it will never happen. How do you know what the world will look like in 10 000 years? You can only guess

And so can you.

My guess that we will never have a borderless world is the same as you guessing that there will be one.

Prune Tracy

But we have families, neighbourhoods, communities, clubs, teams, villages, towns, cities, societies, cultures. Nations are just a bigger version of those. I don't agree with rabid national pride but I'm OK with people embracing their identity while respecting that of others.

Seeking a sense of belonging is natural.

wakka12

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Having individuality and personality is what makes people interesting, and that doesn't come from a nationality.

I've no problem with nationality but when there's excessvie pride about it it just becomes arrogant. Ireland is the best country in the world? Why - because they were born there?

Lots of circumstances beyond your control contribute to your personality. Your country might do that too, if you're from saudi arabia or syria or china or anywhere really the countries cultures,laws, economic problems, social problems will shape your personality and your opinions

Anyway I don't see what removing borders would do to alleviate any nationalism. People would simply attach themselves to a county/state or city they reside in rather than the country, my city is better than your city... Cityism would replace nationalism, its simply a different scale of the same thing.Thats the only change there would be

GMSA

What better way to display your national identity and loyalty than a national flag.
Or referred to as a fleg in some parts.

Noo

Tribes have been fighting over land since the forever, its a resouces and territorial thing. It still goes on the the depths of the rainforest where countries do not exist. It is not a new concept...its human nature and has evolved into the county system we know now.

Even if the world was one big happy planet with no borders, groups will settle somewhere plentiful and defend that area for survival. Its simple primative stuff here people!

Edward M

Imagine a world with Donald Trump as President!

Synthol

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

And so can you.

My guess that we will never have a borderless world is the same as you guessing that there will be one.

I don't claim to know the future like you, that is the difference. You with full confidence say that it will not happen even though you don't know.