Al Porter Scandal

Venom

Stheno wrote: »

Did you read his apology? He basically said that he didn't realise people were hurt/offended and he never meant there to be hurt or offense?

Are you and he for fcuking real? He didn't think walking up to random strangers and grabbing their dicks in public, would cause offense or make them feel uncomfortable? He actually needed to have it pointed out this wasn't acceptable behavior!



Talk about needing to see

Stheno

Bananaleaf wrote: »

But those who pay no PRSI contribution and never have are? Well, I'm more shocked at that than I am at the allegations.

Anyway - yes he said he apologised if his behaviour hurt people, but to have meant this, he also had to be admitting to the behaviour

Yes they are on means tested jsa no means equals full payment same as someone on jsb

As Al is under 25 if he applied for jsa and had no means hed get 100e per week

mistersifter

[QUOTE=castletownman;105315117I generally find overly camp gay men (the kind who regard their sexuality as the only meaningful aspect of their life) as a bit off-putting, but Porter's comic stylings really take the biscuit. At least that lecherous act will be off the airwaves now.[/QUOTE]


It's like with his stupid, tacky act he was purposely trying to reinforce the old stereotype of gay men as desperate, mickey-obsessed people who were waiting to pounce on anyone given half the chance, straight men included. See for example his appearance on the horrible Late Late Show Valentines' special, which was also trying to be"flamboyant and outrageous" and will hopefully now be done away with now.

Stheno

Venom wrote: »

Are you and he for fcuking real? He didn't think walking up to random strangers and grabbing their dicks in public, would cause offense or make them feel uncomfortable?



Talk about needing to see

That's what I said he said. To me it appears he saw no harm in what he did which I don't agree with, same as I don't agree with this court of social media nonsense

Dev84

Lets not forget that the lad is 24 and could easily be reading this page. As bad as his alleged actions are he didnt rape or kill anyone.

Anyone know if any of the victims have gone to the police?

retalivity

Lol have to laugh at the weird direction this thread has taken, discussing porter's welfare entitlements!

Ash.J.Williams

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Genuine question - how is he not entitled to social welfare because he was self-employed? There are people in the country who haven't been in any way employed and they are still 'entitled' to it.

I know they don't have pension rights, but are you sure they're not entitled to social welfare?

Also, like I said, I don't know him at all, so I've no idea whether he would have money put away, so fair enough I don't know where he will find the money to hole himself away for a few years, but what are you suggesting will happen to him if you don't think a job or social welfare are a possibility and if he doesn't go to jail (or even if he does, upon his release)?

Self employed get job seekers

glenfieldman

No comments on the Journal and those arsehole that were all innocent until proven are very silent

Vladimir Poontang

Imagine the difference if these allegations were against George Hook or Kevin Myers?

A lot of hypocrisy and double standards being exposed here.

Ash.J.Williams

Dev84 wrote: »

Lets not forget that the lad is 24 and could easily be reading this page. As bad as his alleged actions are he didnt rape or kill anyone.

Anyone know if any of the victims have gone to the police?

He's a ball grabber and ass pincher... Are there historical cases we could look at? I'd say it would be hard enough to get him punished.. By law I mean... Obviously the Internet has murdered him

Dev84

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

Imagine the difference if these allegations were against George Hook or Kevin Myers?

A lot of hypocrisy and double standards being exposed here.

Or joe bloggs from across the road.

anewme

retalivity wrote: »

Lol have to laugh at the weird direction this thread has taken, discussing porter's welfare entitlements!

All about self employed and Prsi.

This thread is funnier than any Al Porter jokes.

Dev84

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

He's a ball grabber and ass pincher... Are there historical cases we could look at? I'd say it would be hard enough to get him punished.. By law I mean... Obviously the Internet has murdered him

So the accusations are just to discredit him?

Stacksofwacks

Who goes around calling themselves Al Porter anyway?

Dev84

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Who goes around calling themselves Al Porter anyway?

Al porter.

Stheno

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

Imagine the difference if these allegations were against George Hook or Kevin Myers?

A lot of hypocrisy and double standards being exposed here.

How would it be different? Hook got suspended and is back to work soon and broadcasted after his comments.

Porter is now unemployed

Ash.J.Williams

I found a case there where a chap got 8months for an ass slap. However it was a far more sinister situation as she was alone and he followed her for 15mins making it closer to an attack.
Porters accusations also include joke theft. As in look him all famous and he a joke stealing bum pincher....

So I dunno... He just sounds like a durty f**ker that thought homosexual groping is something acceptable to straight people and he has just got the answer

Beechwoodspark

It is a stage name as far as I know. I actually think it's quite clever if you were trying to come up with a surname that hints at Irishness for the uk market, porter is a decent one.

mistersifter

Dev84 wrote: »

Al porter.

what's his real name again? Wonder if he goes back to using that.. I think Porter was just a stage name he invented at the beginning of his career because he didnt want to put his real name on posters for some reason or other.

previous user

I thought he was really good in the curry ads.

Venom

Stheno wrote: »

How would it be different? Hook got suspended and is back to work soon and broadcasted after his comments.

Porter is now unemployed

Hook expressed an unpopular opinion.


Porter it seems is a serial sexual harasser.


Bit of a difference!

Stheno

previous user wrote: »

I thought he was really good in the curry ads.

Is that him?

Irritating feckwit

colm_mcm

Stheno wrote: »

Is that him?

Irritating feckwit

Nope, different lad

Conor McKenna from foil, arms and hog.

DeanAustin

Venom wrote: »

Hook expressed an unpopular opinion.


Porter it seems is a serial sexual harasser.


Bit of a difference!

There is no room for nuance in today’s world.

Going by the logic of this thread:

George Hook = Al Porter = Jimmy Savile

Royale with Cheese

Anyone who has any sympathy for him after that apology needs their head examined.

Shoving his hands down someone's pants and grabbing their dick was just in keeping with his "flamboyant and outrageous public persona", in what he had regarded as "light hearted and good natured circumstances". Fúck off you complete twat.

Vladimir Poontang

You couldn't turn on the TV or radio for about two weeks without hearing entire panels of people attacking George Hook and Kevin Myers in the aftermath of their remarks. Words.

It was all over the newspapers and internet and even the Taoiseach got involved.

They were hounded relentlessly until they were either fired or suspended.

Al Porter, whose actions are far more serious, has gotten the kids gloves treatment in the media by comparison.

Stheno

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

You couldn't turn on the TV or radio for about two weeks without hearing entire panels of people attacking George Hook and Kevin Myers in the aftermath of their remarks. Words.

It was all over the newspapers and internet and even the Taoiseach got involved.

They were hounded relentlessly until they were either fired or suspended.

Al Porter, whose actions are far more serious, has gotten the kids gloves treatment in the media by comparison.

I've figured it out.

The actions of hook and Myers were recorded in public and irrefutable, those of Porter are alleged and unproven.

gizmo555

Venom wrote: »

Hook expressed an unpopular opinion.


Porter it seems is a serial sexual harasser.


Bit of a difference!

The alleged conduct is not sexual harassment, it's sexual assault.

EndaHonesty

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

You couldn't turn on the TV or radio for about two weeks without hearing entire panels of people attacking George Hook and Kevin Myers in the aftermath of their remarks. Words.

It was all over the newspapers and internet and even the Taoiseach got involved.

They were hounded relentlessly until they were either fired or suspended.

Al Porter, whose actions are far more serious, has gotten the kids gloves treatment in the media by comparison.

It only broke yesterday.

George Hook only gathered legs on the Sunday after the event, almost a week later.

The baby faced assassin Chris Donoghue started the ball rolling.

Portergate will build over the coming days...

AnneFrank

Chris whiter than white won't criticise one of his own even if he was in the wrong

Vladimir Poontang

Stheno wrote: »

I've figured it out.

The actions of hook and Myers were recorded in public and irrefutable, those of Porter are alleged and unproven.

What is he apologising for then...keep reaching.

musiknonstop

Stheno wrote: »

How would it be different? Hook got suspended and is back to work soon and broadcasted after his comments.

Porter is now unemployed

George Hook clumsily expressed a thought. Al Porter allegedly sexually abused a number of people. George Hook was raked over the coals for expressing an unpopular opinion, tried by social media.

GeorgeBailey

EndaHonesty wrote: »

It only broke yesterday.

George Hook only gathered legs on the Sunday after the event, almost a week later.

The baby faced assassin Chris Donoghue started the ball rolling.

Portergate will build over the coming days...

Also, Porter has already started losing work so it has already kicked in. It was more than a week before George Hook lost his lunchtime slot on Newstalk.

splinter65

Stheno wrote: »

I've figured it out.

The actions of hook and Myers were recorded in public and irrefutable, those of Porter are alleged and unproven.

No it’s simpler then that.
Hook and Myers are white straight men and Hook has the added problem of being a Christian .
Porter is gay.
That is it.

I won't miss him anyway. He falls into the Colm and Jim Jim head melting category for me as far as radio goes.

alan partridge aha

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Anyone who has any sympathy for him after that apology needs their head examined.

Shoving your hands down someone's pants and grabbing their dick was just in keeping with his "flamboyant and outrageous public persona", in what he had regarded as "light hearted and good natured circumstances". Fúck off you complete twat.

If he did that to me, I knock him out with a box without question. Let's hope CoD and his ilk will come out with condemnation far stronger than they did against Hooky.

SnakePlissken

Decades in the entertainment industry? What am I missing?

alchemist33

Hook has no connection to Porter at all except they were both on the radio. They were even on different stations. You might as well compare Porter with Conor McGregor. The constant whataboutery by Hook defenders is pretty sad.

And if these allegations are true, Porter is of course just as much a predator as Kevin Spacey and Weinstein.

Porter and Hook/Myers stories aren't even in the same category.

The latter two were just loud mouths who made totally inappropriate comments and were rightly punished.

Porters alleged actions are criminal and if true he could be facing time in jail.

Harry Palmr

http://i65.tinypic.com/2wp30uu.jpg

The classic non apology apology.

Vladimir Poontang

alchemist33 wrote: »

Hook has no connection to Porter at all except they were both on the radio. They were even on different stations. You might as well compare Porter with Conor McGregor. The constant whataboutery by Hook defenders is pretty sad.

And if these allegations are true, Porter is of course just as much a predator as Kevin Spacey and Weinstein.

Two prominent media personalities.

One said something that some people didn't like. Cue mass hysteria in the media

The other has likely committed criminal offences of a sexual nature. Suddenly the moral outrage brigade have lost their voices.

That is what we are talking about.

allym

alchemist33 wrote: »

Hook has no connection to Porter at all except they were both on the radio. They were even on different stations. You might as well compare Porter with Conor McGregor. The constant whataboutery by Hook defenders is pretty sad.

And if these allegations are true, Porter is of course just as much a predator as Kevin Spacey and Weinstein.

Both under the same media group though

PARlance

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Anyone who has any sympathy for him after that apology needs their head examined.

Shoving your hands down someone's pants and grabbing their dick was just in keeping with his "flamboyant and outrageous public persona", in what he had regarded as "light hearted and good natured circumstances". Fúck off you complete twat.

The attitude doesn't surprise me at all. As a straight guy who spent plenty of nights out in Dublin with gay friends many moons ago, there's a certain element of the gay scene who act like absolute twats and seem to lean on their "outrageousness" to "pull it off" and excuse their behaviour.

It would happen nearly every night, but then again, I am fabulous!

Venom

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

Two prominent media personalities.

One said something that some people didn't like. Cue mass hysteria in the media

The other has likely committed criminal offences of a sexual nature. Suddenly the moral outrage brigade have lost their voices.

That is what we are talking about.

I noticed my more left leaning friends on Twitter and Facebook are surprisingly rather quite on this topic. Funny thing, they were really outraged with Hook in their many, many posts on that subject!

Venom

Venom wrote: »

I noticed my more left leaning friends on Twitter and Facebook are surprisingly rather quite on this topic. Funny thing, they were really outraged with Hook in their many, many posts on that subject!

Why should it matter what your political preference is?

So they think words are worse than (alleged) actions

The whole left and right thing is complete garbage. it's getting worse than the US

pitifulgod

Venom wrote: »

I noticed my more left leaning friends on Twitter and Facebook are surprisingly rather quite on this topic. Funny thing, they were really outraged with Hook in their many, many posts on that subject!

I'm seeing as much outrage on twitter from the left in relation to Porter as I did for Hook. Has been trending on and off for the last 3 days.

For Forks Sake

Harry Palmr wrote: »

http://i65.tinypic.com/2wp30uu.jpg

The classic non apology apology.

Roger Hassenforder

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Ah the well-worn retort of the man who has no argument... "If I throw in patronising words, it means I'm winning"

The poster you deliberately misquoted already suggested an appropriate way - however, you seem to think an appropriate way to deal with what you feel is a sexual assault is to wait a couple of years, continue to socialise with your assailant - then post about it on twitter...

I don't believe the "victims" felt they were sexually assaulted at the time. I'm not convinced they feel that way even now. I can imagine they were embarrassed and had a feeling of "what the f*ck?"
But to effectively align themselves with the many victims of serious sexual assault - people who have actually had their lives ruined - does not sit well.

Self righteous indignation bestride the high horse of false virtue ; the go-to place for the vicariously offended and outraged. complete with a straw man.

I've asked you already, but will try once more: what is the appropriate response for a (vulnerable) man to take on being sexually assaulted by a celebrity? You, the arbiter of how someone should feel on being assaulted, and where on the spectrum of seriousness these lie. (And while you're at it, you might refresh me on where I said what they did was appropriate - that's the straw man bit).

Was it really just "awful" behavior?

WHIP IT! wrote: »

The hysterical over-reaction to his awful behaviour is going to ruin his life.

You even call them "victims" (twice) are they not even victims in your view?

WHIP IT! wrote: »

... You think the "victims" went to the Garda...

WHIP IT! wrote: »

I don't believe the "victims" felt they were sexually assaulted at the time

Were they not even sexually assaulted?
(I'm a magnanimous chap, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, you're using inverted commas, as at the time of writing it was all allegations. You might reflect on your punctuation in light of his mealy mouthed, insincere apology/admissions.

For whatever reason you've sought to diminish the assaults or suggest the victims should have handled it differently. (i'd certainly have, but I'm not the victim).

CalamariFritti

glenfieldman wrote: »

No comments on the Journal and those arsehole that were all innocent until proven are very silent

Unnocent until proven guilty now makes you an arsehole?

punisher5112

It seems to me here on this island if you are white you are fooked unless you are gay or a traveller as they seem to get treated differently and of course if you are black or foreign the race card is played.

Don't go around grabbing men or women and one should get on well.