Al Porter Scandal

pjohnson

Cazale wrote: »

As someone who grew up in the same estate as him in Tallaght I found his depiction of his childhood as highly offensive. The way he went on you would think gay people were hunted down and thrown off the roof of the square like some ISIS controlled state.

You mean thats not what happens?

eezipc

Ush1 wrote: »

Am I the only one who finds his stand-up funny?

Unfortunately , no.

Cazale

Cazale wrote: »

As someone who grew up in the same estate as him in Tallaght I found his depiction of his childhood as highly offensive. The way he went on you would think gay people were hunted down and thrown off the roof of the square like some ISIS controlled state. A big of slagging is one thing but he just comes across as mean spirited. I hope his sub par Julian Clary act is shown the door after this.

You’re spot on. He really knew how to work his background and sexuality to his advantage. I can just imagine all the media managers bending over backwards to get him on their show.

Don Kiddick

cisk wrote: »

You’re spot on. He really knew how to work his background and sexuality to his advantage. I can just imagine all the media managers bending over backwards to get him on their show.

Hehe.... subtle as a slap from a fat birds bossoms

Rikand

Cazale wrote: »

As someone who grew up in the same estate as him in Tallaght I found his depiction of his childhood as highly offensive. The way he went on you would think gay people were hunted down and thrown off the roof of the square like some ISIS controlled state. A big of slagging is one thing but he just comes across as mean spirited. I hope his sub par Julian Clary act is shown the door after this.

Did he drop the hand on you too ? It's okay, you're in a safe place now

pjohnson

cisk wrote: »

You’re spot on. He really knew how to work his background and sexuality to his advantage. I can just imagine all the media managers bending over backwards to get him on their show.

That was Porters only talent. Hes apparently well known for stealing his better comic material (ie. anything actually funny) from other lesser known comedians. Porters background got him known and he borrowed jokes from actual comedians.

Cazale

Rikand wrote:

Did he drop the hand on you too ? It's okay, you're in a safe place now

No but I'm still in counseling after seeing June Rodgers in the Red Cow one Christmas if that counts?

seamus

That's the end of him. He's not established enough yet to come back from this.

Pity, I did like him. Maybe not great at the scripted comedy, but pretty good at back and forth banter. Like Dermot & Dave except clearly more rapey than them.

TheChizler

What are the actual reported allegations against him? Haven't seen any details, the times is behind a paywall. Slight hyperbole (only slight) but the general reaction seems to be pretty much "I don't like his comedy/persona so it must all be true".

pjohnson

TheChizler wrote: »

What are the actual allegations against him? Haven't seen any details, the times is being a pay wall. Slight hyperbole (only slight) but the general reaction seems to be pretty much "I don't like his comedy/persona so it must all be true".

Check twitter. Davey Reilly and George Fox provide details amongst others. Dunno if they are part of the Times thing or not. And I have shag all clue how to post tweets. Groping repeatedly to sumise.

TheChizler

pjohnson wrote: »

And I have shag all clue how to post tweets.

And I have about as much of a clue on how to search Twitter. I'll give it a go but I take anything I see on Twitter with a massive pinch of salt.

pjohnson

TheChizler wrote: »

And I have about as much of a clue on how to search Twitter.

Damn. We make a fine team haha

RocketRaccoon

TheChizler wrote: »

What are the actual reported allegations against him? Haven't seen any details, the times is behind a paywall. Slight hyperbole (only slight) but the general reaction seems to be pretty much "I don't like his comedy/persona so it must all be true".

Allegedly instead of shaking hands like a normal person he tried to shake a cock and slip a sly finger in a bumhole.

Needs Must

Could be a show in this...Touched by Al.

RocketRaccoon

Needs Must wrote: »

Could be a show in this...Touched by Al.

The sad thing is that he probably will attempt to get a show to get him back in the good books of people.

pjohnson

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

The sad thing is that he probably will attempt to get a show to get him back in the good books of people.

Given how Hook was treated for mere words you'd hope not.

suicide_circus

Al should just publicly attack and disparage the character of his accuser. You know, the Clinton defence.

Snowfire

Wonder will tv3 pull his show tomorrow..?

suicide_circus

Snowfire wrote: »

Wonder will tv3 pull his show tomorrow..?

Squeeky bum time in the management office at the moment!

Jerichoholic

Well he certainly looks like the biggest gimp in the universe.

Saint_Mel

Snowfire wrote:

Maybe she's joking....

Female comedians are rarely funny!

Brego888

TheChizler wrote: »

What are the actual reported allegations against him? Haven't seen any details, the times is behind a paywall. Slight hyperbole (only slight) but the general reaction seems to be pretty much "I don't like his comedy/persona so it must all be true".

https://twitter.com/IrishBrian420/status/931789191553404929

splinter65

Ush1 wrote: »

Am I the only one who finds his stand-up funny?

To me, 3 minutes of it is funny, then I’m conscious that there’s a bitter nasty malicious side to him that’s quite common amongst a lot of older, hard bitten, more cynical “queens” who can no longer conceal their loneliness and discontent .
I think the truth is that Al really doesn’t like a lot of people and these “assaults” were not sexual advances badly managed, but actual physical attempts to physically hurt other men.
I think he might have been fairly confident, and still might be, that if anyone actually complained or fought back he could twist it about to make himself a victim of homophobia.
The current atmosphere here would support him in that.

GerryDerpy

I’m sorry I can’t take this serious. Some gay lad drops the hand on me and he gets dropped. Alleging sexual assault would be the last thing I’d do.

BorneTobyWilde

You hear stories of old couples talking about how they met, and so many times I hear the one
'' he just would not take no for an answer'' How the guy would pursue the girl he wants and in time they'd date and fall in love.
Today it's sexual harassment.

jimosterberg

splinter65 wrote: »

To me, 3 minutes of it is funny, then I’m conscious that there’s a bitter nasty malicious side to him that’s quite common amongst a lot of older, hard bitten, more cynical “queens” who can no longer conceal their loneliness and discontent .
I think the truth is that Al really doesn’t like a lot of people and these “assaults” were not sexual advances badly managed, but actual physical attempts to physically hurt other men.
I think he might have been fairly confident, and still might be, that if anyone actually complained or fought back he could twist it about to make himself a victim of homophobia.
The current atmosphere here would support him in that.

To me your post comes across as homophobic and angry. I've never bothered much with Al Porter on TV or radio. If these allegations are true then he's a disgrace and it will be the end of his career.

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

You hear stories of old couples talking about how they met, and so many times I hear the one
'' he just would not take no for an answer'' How the guy would pursue the girl he wants and in time they'd date and fall in love.
Today it's sexual harassment.

think theres a difference between persistently asking a couple of times for a date or groping someone's genitals

smurgen

Brego888 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/IrishBrian420/status/931789191553404929

Pretty bad stuff and the same.louis ck never actually touched anyone and his career is in tatters.

Eggonyerface

Hammer89 wrote: »

Something about the royal family and a bread bin.

Hiya!

duffman13

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I’m sorry I can’t take this serious. Some gay lad drops the hand on me and he gets dropped. Alleging sexual assault would be the last thing I’d do.

I think you need to take the context of these situations into account, each time appears to have been in a comedy club environment and they've worked together. Id say they were more shocked it happened as oppposed to throwing a dig.

wakka12

splinter65 wrote: »

To me, 3 minutes of it is funny, then I’m conscious that there’s a bitter nasty malicious side to him that’s quite common amongst a lot of older, hard bitten, more cynical “queens” who can no longer conceal their loneliness and discontent .
I think the truth is that Al really doesn’t like a lot of people and these “assaults” were not sexual advances badly managed, but actual physical attempts to physically hurt other men.
I think he might have been fairly confident, and still might be, that if anyone actually complained or fought back he could twist it about to make himself a victim of homophobia.
The current atmosphere here would support him in that.

Older? He's 24, you know , haha

AttentionBebe

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I’m sorry I can’t take this serious. Some gay lad drops the hand on me and he gets dropped. Alleging sexual assault would be the last thing I’d do.

When someone gropes you out of nowhere you're in shock for a moment and most people just freeze. Very easy to say you'd deck him or whatever but in reality it's over before your brain processes what happened. That's why so many get away with it.

GerryDerpy

duffman13 wrote: »

I think you need to take the context of these situations into account, each time appears to have been in a comedy club environment and they've worked together. Id say they were more shocked it happened as oppposed to throwing a dig.

Oh I’d be shocked too. But deal with it there and then. Or next time you see him. Why come out publicly as an assault victim? How does that deal with the conflict better?

pjohnson

duffman13 wrote: »

I think you need to take the context of these situations into account, each time appears to have been in a comedy club environment and they've worked together. Id say they were more shocked it happened as oppposed to throwing a dig.

Plus if you hit him it'd be "XX is a gay basher" and XX would have their career ended while Al milks the publicity.

ricero

Fair play to them men for having constraint and not knocking the ****e out of porter when he touched them

GerryDerpy

AttentionBebe wrote: »

When someone gropes you out of nowhere you're in shock for a moment and most people just freeze. Very easy to say you'd deck him or whatever but in reality it's over before your brain processes what happened. That's why so many get away with it.

Man groping woman 100% I agree.

Hammer89

Eggonyerface wrote: »

Hiya!

splinter65

jimosterberg wrote: »

To me your post comes across as homophobic and angry. I've never bothered much with Al Porter on TV or radio. If these allegations are true then he's a disgrace and it will be the end of his career.

So your not really aware of the personality I’m referring to or the character that he portrays but because he’s gay and I’ve criticized him you’ve decided that I’m being homophobic (I’m not even remotely afraid of Al Porter) and that I’m angry.

eviltwin

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Oh I’d be shocked too. But deal with it there and then. Or next time you see him. Why come out publicly as an assault victim? How does that deal with the conflict better?

How would you deal with it? You throw a punch at him you get done for assault, if you are trying to make a career in comedy and you are violent to an established name it's bye bye career.

paulbok

Don Kiddick wrote: »

You should be ashamed of yourself

Ah leave his mum alone

splinter65

wakka12 wrote: »

Older? He's 24, you know , haha

Yes. The nasty side can be common amongst older performers and is unusual in people his age, that’s what I meant to say.
I have a lot of experience in the performing arts.

GerryDerpy

eviltwin wrote: »

How would you deal with it? You throw a punch at him you get done for assault, if you are trying to make a career in comedy and you are violent to an established name it's bye bye career.

Grab the Cnut by the throat and make him regret it. His word against mine. No scars. Look I’m not a hard man but I would defend myself if physically touched.

splinter65

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Grab the Cnut by the throat and make him regret it. His word against mine. No scars. Look I’m not a hard man but I would defend myself if physicallg touched.

Sindo headline “brave Al Porter tells Barry Egan how he coped with vile attempt to choke him to death in violent homophobic attack”.

pitifulgod

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Oh I’d be shocked too. But deal with it there and then. Or next time you see him. Why come out publicly as an assault victim? How does that deal with the conflict better?

Well by coming out about it, it might prevent the individual doing it to other people and prevent any escalation in such behaviour in the future. I don't know how I'd react in a scenario like that, I'd probably be shocked and be very nervous of seeing the person again rather than punching them on another occasion.

GerryDerpy

splinter65 wrote: »

Sindo headline “brave Al Porter tells Barry Egan how he coped with vile attempt to choke him to death in violent homophobic attack”.

I accept i don’t have a public reputation to protect.

But still.. “yeah I choked the ducker because he groped me.”

Richard Bingham

Unbelievable that that both social and traditional media so quiet on Ireland's sex scandal this morning - not a dicky bird on rte.ie. MORE UN-FNCKING-BELIEVABLE BIAS IN OUR MEDIA.

Ireland gets it's own sex scandal, with allegations far worse than some of the recent sh1t storms in the US (as someone referenced above - Louis CK who didn't lay a hand on anyone for example). It breaks late on Friday evening and it's not even trending on Twitter the next morning? All the big mouthed liberals on Twitter have literally disappeared overnight. Amazeballs

The Liberal sh1theads didn't think that one of their own would get caught in their nasty little trap when they were priming it a few weeks back.

GerryDerpy

pitifulgod wrote: »

Well by coming out about it, it might prevent the individual doing it to other people and prevent any escalation in such behaviour in the future. I don't know how I'd react in a scenario like that, I'd probably be shocked and be very nervous of seeing the person again rather than punching them on another occasion.

I suppose there is more that one way of dealing with each situation. God though I’d nearly kill him.

suicide_circus

^^^^the silence is deafening.

wakka12

Richard Bingham wrote: »

Unbelievable that that both social and traditional media so quiet on Ireland's sex scandal this morning - not a dicky bird on rte.ie. MORE UN-FNCKING-BELIEVABLE BIAS IN OUR MEDIA.

Ireland gets it's own sex scandal, with allegations far worse than some of the recent sh1t storms in the US (as someone referenced above - Louis CK who didn't lay a hand on anyone for example). It breaks late on Friday evening and it's not even trending on Twitter the next morning? All the big mouthed liberals on Twitter have literally disappeared overnight. Amazeballs

The Liberal sh1theads didn't think that one of their own would get caught in their nasty little trap when they were priming it a few weeks back.

Its definitely not bias on the part of the national media. The only bias they are guilty of is only reporting on what people respond to. If the general public do come to care about this, which i agree with you that they probably wont due to him being gay, the media will report on it . They don't care about the story themselves either way

jimosterberg

splinter65 wrote: »

So your not really aware of the personality I’m referring to or the character that he portrays but because he’s gay and I’ve criticized him you’ve decided that I’m being homophobic (I’m not even remotely afraid of Al Porter) and that I’m angry.

"there’s a bitter nasty malicious side to him that’s quite common amongst a lot of older, hard bitten, more cynical “queens” who can no longer conceal their loneliness and discontent"

That bit came across as homophobic to me. It was nothing to do with you criticizing Al Porter and him being gay, more that it's common for "Queens" to be "bitter, nasty, malicious .....hardbitten, cynical"