Al Porter Scandal

Creol1

I recommend not engaging with "WHIP IT!" There are plenty of aspects of sexual assault such as what causes it, how it should be punished, etc., that are up for debate. The fact that touching someone's private parts against their consent is sexual assault is not up for debate and I have reported this poster on two occasions because it is simply unacceptable that someone on this forum is actually defending sexual assault; however, as far as I can tell no action has been taken so I would suggest that other posters who agree report the issue as well.

Posters have been suspended or banned for far less.

WHIP IT!

Creol1 wrote: »

I recommend not engaging with "WHIP IT!" There are plenty of aspects of sexual assault such as what causes it, how it should be punished, etc., that are up for debate. The fact that touching someone's private parts against their consent is sexual assault is not up for debate and I have reported this poster on two occasions because it is simply unacceptable that someone on this forum is actually defending sexual assault; however, as far as I can tell no action has been taken so I would suggest that other posters who agree report the issue as well.

Posters have been suspended or banned for far less.

Can you point out the posts where I have defended sexual assault?

EDIT: Several posters have disagreed with my position on this particular case. But they have debated their points and we have largely agreed to disagree. You have actually reported someone simply because they disagree with you. Hence, no action has been taken. Open your eyes and read my posts. And when you fail to find any posts where I have defended sexual assaults, then I trust you will be as quick to correct your sickening statement above as you were to fling the mud in the first place.

Bob_Marley

Creol1 wrote: »

I recommend not engaging with "WHIP IT!" There are plenty of aspects of sexual assault such as what causes it, how it should be punished, etc., that are up for debate. The fact that touching someone's private parts against their consent is sexual assault is not up for debate and I have reported this poster on two occasions because it is simply unacceptable that someone on this forum is actually defending sexual assault; however, as far as I can tell no action has been taken so I would suggest that other posters who agree report the issue as well.

Posters have been suspended or banned for far less.

According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ? So much for so called equality.

WHIP IT!

Bob_Marley wrote: »

According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ?

You're right. There are no opinions. It's all a big conspiracy.
We're allllll out to get ya, Bob...

Bob_Marley

WHIP IT! wrote: »

You're right. There are no opinions. It's all a big conspiracy.
We're allllll out to get ya, Bob...

I suppose if you have no true points you can always resort to attacking the poster instead.

Beechwoodspark

Did he really do a stand up routine in the George last night or is it a silly rumour

WHIP IT!

Bob_Marley wrote: »

I suppose if you have no true points you can always resort to attacking the poster instead.

I'll decline, thanks... have a read of your previous post though if that's what you're into.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Did he really do a stand up routine in the George last night or is it a silly rumour

He doesn't appear to be the sharpest tool in the box, it sounds like something he'd do!

Bob_Marley

WHIP IT! wrote: »

I'll decline, thanks... have a read of your previous post though if that's what you're into.

So again other than attacking the poster still you still have nothing.

Ulysses Gaze

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Did he really do a stand up routine in the George last night or is it a silly rumour

Posted by The George...

https://twitter.com/TheGeorgeBar/status/981205899938291712

Contrary to erroneous reports on social media, Al Porter was not booked to perform in the bar last night and was in attendance as a regular customer.

He appeared briefly on the stage after his name was picked randomly out of a hat in one of the games involving audience participation organised by the entertainment act that had been booked.

Our focus continues to be on ensuring that all our guests enjoy a great night out when they visit The George.

Bob_Marley

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Posted by The George...

https://twitter.com/TheGeorgeBar/status/981205899938291712

Funny. That's just what happened Ibrahim Halawa as well, he just happened to wander by accident onto the stage of a Muslim Brotherhood protest.
These poor lads have no luck.

WHIP IT!

Bob_Marley wrote: »

So again other than attacking the poster still you still have nothing.

You're having a stormer, Lad... one of these days you might actually have an opinion on something

blade1

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Did he really do a stand up routine in the George last night or is it a silly rumour

Oh no he didn't!

Mongfinder General

blade1 wrote: »

Oh no he didn't!

Watch out, he’s behind you!

SEPT 23 1989

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Posted by The George...

https://twitter.com/TheGeorgeBar/status/981205899938291712

Would he not have been booed off the stage in that case?

optogirl

Bob_Marley wrote: »

According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ? So much for so called equality.

Well then speak up about it - who are you blaming here?

kunst nugget

Bob_Marley wrote: »

Funny. That's just what happened Ibrahim Halawa as well, he just happened to wander by accident onto the stage of a Muslim Brotherhood protest.
These poor lads have no luck.

How are these things even remotely similar?

blade1

kunst nugget wrote: »

How are these things even remotely similar?

One goes around doing stuff he shouldn't and the other is .... Oh!

kunst nugget

Bob_Marley wrote: »

According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ? So much for so called equality.

Al Porter's downfall came as a direct result of people coming out and speaking about their experiences in response to the #metoo movement. I don't really feel that what he did was swept under the carpet either. Nobody wants to be associated with him.

razorblunt

kunst nugget wrote: »

Al Porter's downfall came as a direct result of people coming out and speaking about their experiences in response to the #metoo movement. I don't really feel that what he did was swept under the carpet either. Nobody wants to be associated with him.

I don't think that's necessarily true, while there hasn't been any massive outpouring of support, none of (from what I can see) of the RTE and TodayFM crowd have distanced themselves from him.

The recent front page on a rag, of his "changed ways" shows there's a bit of an open door still.

wakka12

Bob_Marley wrote: »

According to the approved narrative today sexual assaults on males, and in particular homosexual assaults on males are always to be downplayed and swept under the carpet in comparison to sexual assaults on women. There's no me too or big speeches or agenda at the Oscars when it comes to sexual assaults on men. Can you imagine the outcry if a male RTE celebrity allegedly sexually assaulted a vulnerable female psychiatric patient at a psychiatric hospital while doing a celebrity mental health PR stunt ? So much for so called equality.

Well its up to men to create those me too hashtags and spur male celebrities into doing things like that. But men dont genuinely care enough about male sexual assault victims for that to happen, nobody is stopping this movement other than men, women certainly arent. Women did it because they care

kunst nugget

razorblunt wrote: »

I don't think that's necessarily true, while there hasn't been any massive outpouring of support, none of (from what I can see) of the RTE and TodayFM crowd have distanced themselves from him.

The recent front page on a rag, of his "changed ways" shows there's a bit of an open door still.

I seriously don't see there being an open door for him. Look at how quick the George were to distance themselves from him.

Triceratops Ballet

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Assuming that the question is do I believe the above to be true?

It's an impossible question to answer. Every situation is different. In the case we're talking about, would it have been more serious if the victims were women? Yes, to me, it would have been more serious.

I'm not sure if that's more disrespectful to men or women

K.Flyer

kunst nugget wrote: »

I seriously don't see there being an open door for him. Look at how quick the George were to distance themselves from him.

I don't think their statement was anything like that, but more of clarifying what actually happened on the night and that anything else was just erroneous chinese whispers.

EIREDriver

https://www.joe.ie/life-style/the-george-releases-statement-621301

Statements from The George and Al Porter's team.

blade1

EIREDriver wrote: »

https://www.joe.ie/life-style/the-george-releases-statement-621301

Statements from The George and Al Porter's team.

Picked from the audience randomly! Ha!
Poor Al, trying to enjoy his quiet night out and to go through being dragged up on stage!:rolleyes::pac:

conorhal

kunst nugget wrote: »

How are these things even remotely similar?

I suppose they're similar in regard to the fact that they both involve an idiot that the press seem inexplicably determined to paint as a victim of circumstance and rehabilitate their image by promoting positve stories about them, despite the fact that the general public at large just wishes they'd just "£$^*! off.

Keyzer

More nonsensical social media mob outrage.

Guy went for a drink with his mates, big deal.

DEFTLEFTHAND

In reference to Porter in the George on Monday night.

A comedian made inappropriate comments on stage as part of his act?

Jesus Christ no wonder comedy is dead. Are people that mentally fcked up these days that they cannot understand the concept of satire. How do they cope in the world.

B.A._Baracus

kunst nugget wrote: »

It's not really splitting hairs though is it. A tax avoidance scheme is a million miles away from being branded a sexual predator - especially when you're known for a 'nudge nudge, wink wink' sexual innuendo brand of comedy.

You do realise I'm saying they both did the same things AFTER to try and move past it? (ie incorporating the scandal into their act) read my post.

**** me. People think I just came out and said both scandals were the same!!
Look, I'll put it in a very easy to read way. Jimmy Carr handled it by making fun of it. Porter is trying to do the same. In 6 months another comedian will try to do the same. All I meant.

I know people on boards (and the Internet) like to twist posts so they can argue. But that's what I said. That's what I meant. That's what's in my previous posts for everyone to read.

Or does anyone else wanna twist things further?

Yer Da sells Avon

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Look, I'll put it in a very easy to read way. Jimmy Carr handled it by making fun of it. Porter is trying to do the same.

I'm sure his victims don't appreciate him making a joke out of it.

Muahahaha

The statement from Porter’s agent in relation to his appearance at The George said: “Al categorically denies criminal wrongdoing, and he has not been charged or contacted by gardaí.

Above quote reveals that Porter intends a come back into the public eye in some form or other. I cant think of any other reason for retaining the services of an agent?

Secondly what are the Gardai doing if they have not even contacted him?

B.A._Baracus

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

I'm sure his victims don't appreciate him making a joke out of it.

Am sure you're probably right.
But I didn't drop the hand. I didn't make the jokes the other night. So if you have an issue blame porter.

BattleCorp

Muahahaha wrote: »

Above quote reveals that Porter intends a come back into the public eye in some form or other. I cant think of any other reason for retaining the services of an agent?

Secondly what are the Gardai doing if they have not even contacted him?

A complaint needs to be made to the Gardaí. I'm assuming nobody has formally made a complaint.

Muahahaha

BattleCorp wrote: »

A complaint needs to be made to the Gardaí. I'm assuming nobody has formally made a complaint.

Yeah perhaps. Not sure what happened with the guy in St.Patricks Hospital. iirc though the hospital themselves were obliged to report any allegation they became aware of.

WHIP IT!

Triceratops Ballet wrote: »

I'm not sure if that's more disrespectful to men or women

That would be because it's disrespectful to neither, Lad (we really need a thumbs up emoji on boards... I'd put one here if there was one... sort it out, Mods!)

Buford T. Justice XIX

WHIP IT! wrote: »

That would be because it's disrespectful to neither, Lad (we really need a thumbs up emoji on boards... I'd put one here if there was one... sort it out, Mods!)

Feedback thread or, better yet, maybe the help desk?:)

Bob_Marley

wakka12 wrote: »

Well its up to men to create those me too hashtags and spur male celebrities into doing things like that. But men dont genuinely care enough about male sexual assault victims for that to happen, nobody is stopping this movement other than men, women certainly arent. Women did it because they care

Men don't care about being sexually abused, assaulted or raped ?
Imagine this claim was made about women, there would be an explosion of mass hysterics and outrage, shrieks of sexism, yet it's perfectly ok to claim this about men.

and me too is for women only now ? why ?

Roger Hassenforder

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

I'm sure his victims don't appreciate him making a joke out of it.

We're all victims of his "jokes"

Ash.J.Williams

No sign of any charges yet?

Joeseph Balls

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

No sign of any charges yet?

If the above quote is accurate, the guards have not even contacted Al

blade1

Apparently Al said he is entitled to a private life.
So what does he do?
He gets up on stage and makes cringeworthy inappropriate jokes to the public.

Beechwoodspark

blade1 wrote: »

Apparently Al said he is entitled to a private life.
So what does he do?
He gets up on stage and makes cringeworthy inappropriate jokes to the public.

Seemingly a number of ppl were quite hostile to him in the crowd and also some started posting on social media negatively about it. I know as my friends partner works in the G and was there on Monday night.

blade1

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Seemingly a number of ppl were quite hostile to him in the crowd and also some started posting on social media negatively about it. I know as my friends partner works in the G and was there on Monday night.

I can see why.

Ash.J.Williams

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

If the above quote is accurate, the guards have not even contacted Al

Let him on so

Captain Flaps

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

In reference to Porter in the George on Monday night.

A comedian made inappropriate comments on stage as part of his act?

Jesus Christ no wonder comedy is dead. Are people that mentally fcked up these days that they cannot understand the concept of satire. How do they cope in the world.

...I don't think you know what Satire is lad.

Blazer

Poor Al Porter...still the persecution complex and trying to make what he's accused of seem little by comparing it to the referendum.

"the timing, in the midst of a hugely significant referendum is awful,"


https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/al-porter-issues-a-statement-regarding-allegations-of-misconduct-at-dublin-hospital-845178.html

Fr_Dougal

Nice bit of deflection by the scumbag.

It’s his word against the victims.

Ash.J.Williams

So he said he did nothing, if he did something the complainant would surely make a statement... So it looks he did nothing

retalivity

Was bad news friday yesterday...with the referendum and gdpr going on, was the day to get stuff out under the radar

ButtersSuki

Cynical PR move in the timing, and disgusting to even mention the referendum in it.

As for the investigation in St. Pat’s, it’s one person’s word v another’s and the outcome was always likely to be this in the abscence of any 3rd part witnesses.

Now if only this was the first and only allegation it might carry some weight.....