Formuler F1 Twin Satellite Tuner plus hdd for sat and saorview.

greasepalm

if you have to flash box manually get a working kingston 8gb as e2 boxes are fussy yours is too large and may not flash box.

Jurgen Klopp

greasepalm wrote: »

if you have to flash box manually get a working kingston 8gb as e2 boxes are fussy yours is too large and may not flash box.

Oh interesting, I'll add one of them too sure

greasepalm

ahh just looked no mention of kingston but world of sat so no idea on that.
i have used kingston,cruzer and integral 8gb for flashing and 8gb kingston micro usb needing a pliers to remove.

STB.

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

I have a few 32GB cruzers lying around thankfully

The cruzers work fine with e2 boxes.

greasepalm

now now stb you know size matters for flashing:eek::D:D

martin6651

Plugged in my Formuler F1 and tried to tune in the box. what appears on the screen after I go through the menu

Clean before scan
Network scan
Scan Tuner A(DVB-S) 28.2 Astra2E Astra2E/2F/2G
Scan Tuner C(DVB-C) Dungarvan(ie)

My Sat.dish is tuned into Astra 2A so I'm not picking up channels
Not plugged into saorview yet.

What do I need to do ?

eezipc

martin6651 wrote: »

Plugged in my Formuler F1 and tried to tune in the box. what appears on the screen after I go through the menu

Clean before scan
Network scan
Scan Tuner A(DVB-S) 28.2 Astra2E Astra2E/2F/2G
Scan Tuner C(DVB-C) Dungarvan(ie)

My Sat.dish is tuned into Astra 2A so I'm not picking up channels
Not plugged into saorview yet.

What do I need to do ?

I know it's no use to you now but I had the same issue. It was not as straight forward as I thought but I got it in the end.
When I get home I'll retrace what I did and post it here.

martin6651

Thanks will await your reply.

martin6651

EEZIPC Have you found the info. for me

dubrov

Saorview needs a DVB÷T tuner. Try to find a moment caked something like tuner configuration and change tuner C to DVB-T or DVB-T2. The scan fur you local transmitter.

I am not sure about the satellite end. Is it picking up any channels at all?

Thurston?

martin6651 wrote: »

Plugged in my Formuler F1 and tried to tune in the box. what appears on the screen after I go through the menu

Clean before scan
Network scan
Scan Tuner A(DVB-S) 28.2 Astra2E Astra2E/2F/2G
Scan Tuner C(DVB-C) Dungarvan(ie)

My Sat.dish is tuned into Astra 2A so I'm not picking up channels ...

The dish isn't pointed at Astra 2A, it's pointed at 2E, 2F, & 2G, the satellites that are now at 28 degrees east. Astra 2A is an old satellite, so forget about it, even if it comes up in the menus of other receivers.

STB.

Martin. You have to setup both tuners. (one of your tuners is currently setup as a cable tuner rather than a dvb-t). You need to change that in the menus below, by going to the entry and right arrowing and it will change from dvb-c to dvb-t.

Press Menu Settings Tuner, Basic Settings. You will see both your tuners displayed. Use the North South East and West Arrows around the OK button to move between each. Press OK button on remote to change and then arrows to change the entries which are predefined.

The pictures below are from a Teamblue image but most images follow the same pattern. You'll see this first. Now arrow down to pick it and press ok.



Change the tuner settings so they match these.
(DVB-S2 Tuner - Satellite)


Saorview (DVB-T Menu)


I have the 5v turned on for an indoor aerial. Turn that to off if you are using a house aerial.
In each case press green (save) and it will save the config.

You can now go into the tune menu and make it tune both.

martin6651

STB Thank you I will try to set as shown. Dubrov I got a saorview tuner installed when ordered. When tuning the 2 sat tuners will both have the same channels.
Thurston I have no problems getting channels on an Nordmende TV. so the Astra is ok.

greasepalm

yes have both setup as simple and single as on 28.2 and box has 2 sat feeds needed?

STB.

martin6651 wrote: »

When tuning the 2 sat tuners will both have the same channels.

You will only have to scan the satellite channels once. The tuners use one channel list.

Are you any good with computers ? If you have this connected to the internet you will find it easier to sort the channels into one favourite list using your browser rather than a remote.

martin6651

Thanks I have the internet point beside the box so will try and use the browser. Will do all the suggestions tomorrow hopefully and will report back.

martin6651

Got the channels downloaded so now I have to figure out how to get the lap connected to get some deleting done and setup my favorites . Also when I look at the channel I notice that there is an ABC at the bottom of the screen ant it switch's between A and C when I move from sat. to saorview but nothing on B is this normal.

STB.

When you say downloaded you mean you have scanned both the saorview (dvb-t) and satellite channels (Dvb-s2) ?

I'm guessing you have a scanned lists of both.

If you wish you can do this with a remote control if you think you are not up to the networking of the box.

Dont worry we can make the second satellite tuner read from the channel list as soon as I get Gerry Wicklows attention as I dont have this box. Im sure its something as simple as making tuner a and b equal to each other in a config change.

So lets concentrate on making a favourite list of both dvb-t and dvb-s2 sources.

Gerry Wicklow

Agreed, normally you would have satellite tuner B = A so they share the same channel lists

STB.

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

Agreed, normally you would have satellite tuner B = A so they share the same channel lists

Jaysus. Without a PM that was quick.

Can you explain it for Martin. You have an F1.

PS might be an idea to either merge this with the other thread or rename it a support/questions thread. I'll ask ICDG.

Gerry Wicklow

STB. wrote: »

Jaysus. Without a PM that was quick.......

Killing time before Falcon Heavy launch

Anyway....



NB ignore the bits about DISEQC A/B/C/D and 19.2E Astra

icdg

Merged

martin6651

Still having problems with tuner B
here is what I'm doing
1 tuner conf. :- I set tuners A/B the same.
tuner C :- switchable type DVB-T2,DVB-C
Enabled : BVD-T, DVB-C

2 Automatic scan :What appears on screen
Clean before scan
Network scan
Scan Tuner A(DVB-S) 28.2 Astra2E Astra2E/2F/2G
Scan tuner C (DVB-C) Marienfeld-MM Duisburg
Scan Tuner C(DVB-T) Clare Maghera,Europe
NO Tuner B

3 Press scan(green button on remote)
What appears :- Cable DVB-C
Pass 1/3(tuner C) no channels found
Terrestrial
Pass 2/3 (tuner C)37 channels found
28.2E Astra
Pass 3/3(tuner A)920 channels found

Strawberry HillBilly

Struggling to get Kodi working as there is no PVR add on available or loaded on the box. How do I resolve ? (First time E2 box owner)

Gerry Wicklow

martin6651 wrote: »

Still having problems with tuner B
here is what I'm doing
1 tuner conf. :- I set tuners A/B the same.
tuner C :- switchable type DVB-T2,DVB-C
Enabled : BVD-T, DVB-C

2 Automatic scan :What appears on screen
Clean before scan
Network scan
Scan Tuner A(DVB-S) 28.2 Astra2E Astra2E/2F/2G
Scan tuner C (DVB-C) Marienfeld-MM Duisburg
Scan Tuner C(DVB-T) Clare Maghera,Europe
NO Tuner B

3 Press scan(green button on remote)
What appears :- Cable DVB-C
Pass 1/3(tuner C) no channels found
Terrestrial
Pass 2/3 (tuner C)37 channels found
28.2E Astra
Pass 3/3(tuner A)920 channels found

Just to confirm.. You have tuner A set as single and tuner B is set as "B = A" which is an actual setting. I don't mean just set identical to A. Finding 920 sat channels sounds about right. You could also swap them about to confirm that sat B is actually working. In other words sat B is single and sat "A = B" If a scan of sat B finds 920 then your good to go.
From memory you wont see separate channel listings for both sat tuners as they share the same data. It wont say A found 920, B found XXX or whatever, simply 920 sat channels found.

Apogee

martin6651 wrote: »

Still having problems with tuner B
here is what I'm doing

3 Press scan(green button on remote)
What appears :- Cable DVB-C
Pass 1/3(tuner C) no channels found
Terrestrial
Pass 2/3 (tuner C)37 channels found
28.2E Astra
Pass 3/3(tuner A)920 channels found

If Tuner A=Tuner B, then the box shouldn't need to scan Tuner B.

Try recording one satellite channel and see if you can watch any other sat channels - if you can, both A and B are fine.

Michael_Myers

I Was about to buy the Formuler F1 but I am now wondering about the Tiviar Alpha +


Aside from having space for an internal drive are there any advantages / disadvantages between these boxes ?

Gerry Wicklow

Apogee wrote: »

If Tuner A=Tuner B, then the box shouldn't need to scan Tuner B.

Try recording one satellite channel and see if you can watch any other sat channels - if you can, both A and B are fine.

Not forgetting, of course, that you can always use the satellite finder option to check signal levels per tuner on any TP.

martin6651

Gerry tried the signal for the 2 tuners and they are SNR 65%.

Gerry Wicklow

Should be good to go so.

martin6651

Gerry can you please tell me how I can dwindle the 900+ channels to a useful 100 or even less.

Gerry Wicklow

martin6651 wrote: »

Gerry can you please tell me how I can dwindle the 900+ channels to a useful 100 or even less.

Two easy choices:-
1) Enter the box's network address (192.168.xxx.xxx) into any web browser on the same network to open the WEBIF. Use this to create a favourites bouquet.
The WEBIF function lets you edit all sorts of things as well as streaming, setting timers etc.

2) install DREAMBOXEDIT program on a PC and use it to edit channels.

Michael_Myers

Michael_Myers wrote: »

I Was about to buy the Formuler F1 but I am now wondering about the Tiviar Alpha +


Aside from having space for an internal drive are there any advantages / disadvantages between these boxes ?

Any recommendations?

Gerry Wicklow

Michael_Myers wrote: »

Any recommendations?

I haven't seen any feedback for the Tiviar yet. The specs are similar so I guess it's a case of paying a bit more if you really want an internal drive. Many F1 users (and other makes) already had an external HDD knocking around.

Do you want to volunteer as our guinea pig? I'm sure the feedback would be welcomed.

Strawberry HillBilly

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Struggling to get Kodi working as there is no PVR add on available or loaded on the box. How do I resolve ? (First time E2 box owner)

Any hints or tips here guys and gals ?

STB.

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Any hints or tips here guys and gals ?

I dont use it myself.

https://kodi.wiki/view/Add-on:VU%2B_/_Enigma2_Client

SteM

Kodi on E2 is the ugliest thing going, don't bother with it. If you're desperate to use Kodi then get an android box or similar, so much easier to set up and maintain.

rkdub

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

I haven't seen any feedback for the Tiviar yet. The specs are similar so I guess it's a case of paying a bit more if you really want an internal drive. Many F1 users (and other makes) already had an external HDD knocking around.

Do you want to volunteer as our guinea pig? I'm sure the feedback would be welcomed.

I'm in the same boat looking between the 2.
although I'd prefer to have an internal HDD, I think I'm going for the formuler based on better distro support.. openpli is also supported officially.
I guess its another consideration.

STB.

rkdub wrote: »

I'm in the same boat looking between the 2.
although I'd prefer to have an internal HDD, I think I'm going for the formuler based on better distro support.. openpli is also supported officially.
I guess its another consideration.

I think this is the most important consideration.

How long will the OE alliance teams and indeed the manufacturer support the box. I know for certain that the Formuler F1 manufacturer released new drivers for certain enc protocols only recently.

martin6651

I think I have sorted the channels using bouquet editor, so now I need help with the recording process. I have looked in the recording settings but cant see where I can set up a recording of any of the channels. I remember seeing some thing when I was trying to set the box but I cant find it again. Thank you all for your help and patience in this learning curve.

Michael_Myers

rkdub wrote: »

I'm in the same boat looking between the 2.
although I'd prefer to have an internal HDD, I think I'm going for the formuler based on better distro support.. openpli is also supported officially.
I guess its another consideration.

Noticed something else - The Formuler doesn’t have a scart socket , if you wanted to use a modulator to distribute the signal to other TVs ( similar to RF2 on Sky) you would need a HDMI modulator as opposed to the cheaper Scart modulator. The Tiviar has a scart socket.

Gerry Wicklow

martin6651 wrote: »

I think I have sorted the channels using bouquet editor, so now I need help with the recording process. I have looked in the recording settings but cant see where I can set up a recording of any of the channels. I remember seeing some thing when I was trying to set the box but I cant find it again. Thank you all for your help and patience in this learning curve.

You set recordings from the EPG. Use the coloured buttons at the bottom of the EPG screen to select a "quickrecord" which uses the default settings and just does it. The "timer" button opens a screen to change the settings from the default if you really want to. There is also the "autotimer" button which allows you set up the equivalent of series recording.

rkdub

Michael_Myers wrote: »

Noticed something else - The Formuler doesn’t have a scart socket , if you wanted to use a modulator to distribute the signal to other TVs ( similar to RF2 on Sky) you would need a HDMI modulator as opposed to the cheaper Scart modulator. The Tiviar has a scart socket.

But it has composite out which is the same right? (just need the right cable).
I bet on Formuler in the end. should be here tomorrow. the external disk is a pain.

Michael_Myers

rkdub wrote: »

But it has composite out which is the same right? (just need the right cable).
I bet on Formuler in the end. should be here tomorrow. the external disk is a pain.

I don’t think you can convert ‘composite out’ in order to distribute the signal in the same way as RF2. Would be interested if there is a solution to this , other than an expensive HDMI modulator.

rkdub

Michael_Myers wrote: »

I don’t think you can convert ‘composite out’ in order to distribute the signal in the same way as RF2. Would be interested if there is a solution to this , other than an expensive HDMI modulator.

I get you now - the second RF output. but I don't know how scart fixes that? Would have thought either of these might do it?

Technomate RF Modulator https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B018LKA4LK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_5A0GAbB61VCDC
Or
http://www.freetv.ie/proception-rf-modulator/

STB.

Michael_Myers wrote: »

I don’t think you can convert ‘composite out’ in order to distribute the signal in the same way as RF2. Would be interested if there is a solution to this , other than an expensive HDMI modulator.

Of course you can. Its just another source input, just like Scart.

Most modulators are set up to do exactly that as well as carry a UHF feed. The combining is done by the RF Box.


This is the back of an Analogue €20 RF Modulator

martin6651

Thanks Gerry tried this today, was looking in the wrong place.

martin6651

Another question. I set box to record which I think it did but I cant find where to view recording.

wiz569

martin6651 wrote: »

Another question. I set box to record which I think it did but I cant find where to view recording.

Try the playlist button maybe? Not sure I've never recorded with the box.

martin6651

no good tried playlist