Gerry Adams finally retires

As expected the 69-year-old TD from Louth has announced his retirement as President of Sinn Féin, having been in the position since 1983. He will also not be running in the next election.

As somebody who vividly remembers the attacks on Adams and Hume and the Peace Process from Independent Newspapers, Kevin Myers, John Bruton and Michael McDowell in the early 1990s. I'm absolutely delighted that he outlasted all the Sticky and Sunday Independent crowd, and even lived to see "Sir" Anthony O'Reilly's bankruptcy. Moreover, I'm proud that with the help of Fianna Fáil, John Hume, Irish-America and Bill Clinton he was allowed to help end conflict in Ireland and thus consign all those opponents to the wrong side of history.

Lovely to see the underdog win, and I look forward to Pearse Doherty, or whoever will annoy the poppy-wearing Empire-glorifying Irish haters most, leading the party towards the reunification of Ireland.

Gerry Adams announces his retirement

BillyBobBS

I wish him all the best. Wonderful man and has moved mountains to remedy the situation on this island.

Todd Gack

This should be good

Hitman3000

*settles down with a big bowl of popcorn*

tomwaterford

Pity Martin mcguiness wasn't there to be with him and ferris and hope he also avoids an indignity of a long goodbye




Wish him the best in retirement,
Unlikely to see another politoan as influencel as him from ireland in our lifetimes..do hope he keeps tweeting!!

SuperSean11

Hitman3000 wrote: »

*settles down with a big bowl of popcorn*

No he doesn’t like popcorn

corner of hells

I just wanna get a few cans and rollies together , could be a long night.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Thanks be to Allah! At last !

He's my local TD. The sooner he's gone the better, as he was useless for us.

Jawgap

Mugabe gone.

Gerry going.

Just yer man in North Korea now.

Jawgap

BillyBobBS wrote: »

I wish him all the best. Wonderful man and has moved mountains to remedy the situation on this island.

Indeed he moved mountains.......mostly so people could be buried in them

Hitman3000

SuperSean11 wrote:

No he doesn’t like popcorn

That's ok, I don't like to share.

corner of hells

Gustavo Uneven Splint wrote: »

Thanks be to Allah! At last !

He's my local TD. The sooner he's gone the better, as he was useless for us.

Gustavo Uneven Splint, ya in a comfy chair ,pal ?

RayM

He's come a long way since the '80s, when he wasn't allowed appear on British television without first inhaling helium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUeauLWEaE

Hitman3000

Gustavo Uneven Splint wrote:

He's my local TD. The sooner he's gone the better, as he was useless for us.

So just like any of the other TD really.

bilbot79

No Gerry Adams no Ian Paisley

What has happened to my life

dd972

Like it or not, our Northern brethren had their backs to the wall around 68-71, Lynch wasn't going to come up and save them, what were they meant to do, quietly and passively be slaughtered by Loyalist thugs like the Jews were in Germany?

Whatever you think about them Adams and McGuinness are the products of their environments and conditions, the days of the B Specials and Orange Hegemony are in the dustbin of history where they belong, 32 county republic or not.

Jayop

Good luck Gerry. Hope you have a longer retirement than Martin.

OldMrBrennan83

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bilbot79

dd972 wrote: »

Like it or not, our Northern brethren had their backs to the wall around 68-71, Lynch wasn't going to come up and save them, what were they meant to do, quietly and passively be slaughtered by Loyalist thugs like the Jews were in Germany?

Whatever you think about them Adams and McGuinness are the products of their environments and conditions, the days of the B Specials and Orange Hegemony are in the dustbin of history where they belong, 32 county republic or not.

This is not lost on me, though it might be for a few people

Gustavo Uneven Splint

Gustavo Uneven Splint wrote: »

Thanks be to Allah! At last !

He's my local TD. The sooner he's gone the better, as he was useless for us.

What were you looking for? Clientilist politics to get your driveway done up with tarmac or what? I wish him well on his retirement. Played an integral role in the peace process.

The_Valeyard

Be weird not seeing him around the political spectrum. He certainly earned his retirement.
Be interesting if P.O'Neill also retires...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Deleted User wrote: »

What were you looking for? Clientilist politics to get your driveway done up with tarmac or what? I him well on his retirement. Played an integral role in the peace process.

Not at all. I'm against parish pump politics but I expect a TD for a constituency to be available to his constituents, and to have some influence and impact on issues affecting the constituency as a whole. Even a slight interest in constituency concerns and the occasional appearance in the area would have been an improvement.

Chrongen

I don't think I know of too many people who could be tortured and shot and have siblings killed and continue.

The common cliche is that every man has his price. I don't think a mountain of diamonds could buy Gerry Adams.

mynamejeff

Jayop wrote: »

Good luck Gerry. Hope you have a longer retirement than Martin.

I hope he is punished for all the crimes he committed and was complicit in committing

mynamejeff

Chrongen wrote: »

I don't think I know of too many people who could be tortured and shot and have siblings killed and continue.
.

how about Jean McConville's family or Jerry McCabe's family?

they managed to keep going didnt they ?

Hitman3000

mynamejeff wrote:

I hope he is punished for all the crimes he committed and was complicit in committing

If you have evidence of any crimes he committed the PSNI would love to hear from you.

Owryan

Fair play to him taking the spotlight off poor Al.

Army_of_One

I think he done great things for the peace process ,largely over shadowed my Martin McGuinness. Fair play to him.

Having said that I don'l like Sinn Fein the party , their policies or the people who support them . A bit simple with populist ideas.

mynamejeff

Hitman3000 wrote: »

If you have evidence of any crimes he committed the PSNI would love to hear from you.

in the post, but a copy to the Gardai would also be relevant unless you bevel that old republican fairy tail that he wasn't in the IRA

Gustavo Uneven Splint

Gustavo Uneven Splint wrote: »

Not at all. I'm against parish pump politics but I expect a TD for a constituency to be available to his constituents, and to have some influence and impact on issues affecting the constituency as a whole. Even a slight interest in constituency concerns and the occasional appearance in the area would have been an improvement.

He’s topped the poll in the last 2 elections. As well as that SF got a 2nd seat in Louth the last time out. Must be doing something right......

Hitman3000

mynamejeff wrote:

in the post, but a copy to the Gardai would also be relevant unless you bevel that old republican fairy tail that he wasn't in the IRA

Proof is what's required by a court not 'I think or I believe'.

corner of hells

It would be pretty honourable if he turned around now and admitted being in the IRA instead of denying it constantly.
Imagine the respect he'd garner from the families of IRA who died or the individuals who spent year after year in prison looking at him on the world's stage.
Still I suppose he can't now or he'd be a liar.

mynamejeff

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Proof is what's required by a court not 'I think or I believe'.

Is it?

thanks Judge .

its a wonder he never sued any of the many many creditable sources who have openly accused him of membership

tomwaterford

corner of hells wrote: »

It would be pretty honourable if he turned around now and admitted being in the IRA instead of denying it constantly.
Imagine the respect he'd garner from the families of IRA who died or the individuals who spent year after year in prison looking at him on the world's stage.
Still I suppose he can't now or he'd be a liar.

Are you really worried about his standing amoung militant republicans and their families??

Chrongen

mynamejeff wrote: »

how about Jean McConville's family or Jerry McCabe's family?

they managed to keep going didnt they ?

Perhaps they did. I don't see the point you're making. If you are attempting to equate apples and oranges then I don't really know how to reply.

But I will try. Adams devoted his life to a cause and position from which he has never veered. Within that personal and political trajectory he has been tortured, imprisoned, shot, threatened, vilified and otherwise lambasted on and of camera. He has endured banning orders, death threats, death ATTEMPTS. The list is quite extensive. His family members have been killed. And this over the course of him being from his teens to his sixties.

I can't recall such an iron spine in anyone. I can't even imagine it.

Hitman3000

mynamejeff wrote:

thanks Judge .

No not a judge but for courts proof is what's required.

mynamejeff wrote:

its a wonder he never sued any of the many many creditable sources who have openly accused him of membership

Why bother, let them tie themselves up in knots and laugh from the sidelines. He seems to be weathly enough.

mynamejeff

Chrongen wrote: »

Perhaps they did. I don't see the point you're making. If you are attempting to equate apples and oranges then I don't really know how to reply.

But I will try. Adams devoted his life to a cause and position from which he has never veered. Within that personal and political trajectory he has been tortured, imprisoned, shot, threatened, vilified and otherwise lambasted on and of camera. He has endured banning orders, death threats, death ATTEMPTS. The list is quite extensive. His family members have been killed. And this over the course of him being from his teens to his sixties.

I can't recall such an iron spine in anyone. I can't even imagine it.

he is and continues to be a criminal , that is a part of the life he choose for himself and his family . He is very far from a innocent victim

my sympathy is reserved for them.

Understand now ?

tomwaterford

mynamejeff wrote: »

he is and continues to be a criminal , that is a part of the life he choose for himself and his family . He is very far from a innocent victim

my sympathy is reserved for them.

Understand now ?

Holding political beliefs is not a crime?


He's afaik only been convicted of partaking in an escape,while being interned

Hitman3000

tomwaterford wrote:

Holding political beliefs is not a crime?

I guess it depends on
the party you are a member of.

endacl

Does this mean Mary Lou will have to grow a beard?

mad muffin

But he just opened a Snapchat account?!

mynamejeff

Hitman3000 wrote: »

No not a judge but for courts proof is what's required.



Why bother, let them tie themselves up in knots and laugh from the sidelines. He seems to be weathly enough.

Many of his accusers are committed and long term comrades of Gerry Adams. why tie them up in knots ?

Ie Brendan Hughes and Dolours Price

Hitman3000

mynamejeff wrote:

Many of his accusers are committed and long term comrades of Gerry Adams. why tie them up in knots ?

How can you describe someone as a comrade and also an accuser?

mynamejeff

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I guess it depends on
the party you are a member of.

depends what jurisdiction you live in

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1939/act/13/section/21/enacted/en/html

Crime in Ireland where Gerry a elected Representative

Hitman3000

mynamejeff wrote:

Crime in Ireland where Gerry a elected Representative

So why isn't he in prison ?

tomwaterford

tomwaterford wrote: »

He's afaik only been convicted of partaking in an escape,while being interned

Be realistic here, Gerry has been the SF chief since 1983. If the British security services wanted rid of Gerry they could have done it long ago.

He could have been imprisoned, murdered, accidentally shot, car crash etc etc, perhaps a major scandal, an allegation of sexual abuse / child abuse.... These people do have the power to do these things.

They have plenty information on him, Id be pretty sure that if Gerry farts MI5 knows how it smells. They have watched his every move for years.

But Gerry has been well protected, he is a known quantity for them, they didnt want Martin and him replaced by anybody else.

mynamejeff

Hitman3000 wrote: »

So why isn't he in prison ?

as i originally said hopefully some day soon he will be

Gatling

Our very own northern Mugabe ,
He's not retiring or anything like it , simply a publicity stunt ,
He's won't let go till he's put in the ground

Odhinn

I hope during the first few ardfheiseanna as leader, Mary lou wears a fake beard. Just for the transition period.

Hitman3000

mynamejeff wrote:

as i originally said hopefully some day soon he will be

He's 69, I think much to your dislike that ship has sailed.

mynamejeff

mynamejeff wrote: »

as i originally said hopefully some day soon he will be

Not. Gonna. Happen.

(Far too valuable an agent )



*** Im having a laugh with him being an actual paid agent by the way :-)