Graham Lenihan "no good right wing comedians"

applehunter

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/931880210257141765

Is funny now filtered through a political prism?

Most comedians are libetarians I would have thought.

The Black Oil

I thought he threw a tantrum and deleted his Twitter on principle. So much for that...

tigger123

applehunter wrote: »

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/931880210257141765

Is funny now filtered through a political prism?

Most comedians are libetarians I would have thought.

Jim Davidson and Bernard Mathews are the only two right wing comedians I can think of. Both horrendously ****e.

JMNolan

I'm pretty sure right wing people working in the entertainment industry keep their opinions to themselves out of fear. Same as a lot of us to be honest. Ballot box is the only place you can be honest these days.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Seems a bit of an excuse that comedians would be "scared" into keeping quiet. Real comedians aren't scared of a bit of backlash. If you're genuinely funny, someone will pay you to get up on stage and be funny regardless of your political slant and people will buy tickets to watch you.

If you're controversial and you piss people on the opposite side of the political specturm off, it's a bonus.

That said, I disagree: Donald Trump is ****ing hilarious. So was Sarah Pailn.

Wibbs

Someone like Bill Burr is very popular and he's not exactly left wing.

suicide_circus

There are definitely factors at play that keep right wing people out of the media other than Fox News. The Entertainment industry is a bastion of left leaning "progressive" thinking.

He may have a point in so far as those on the left tend to be more sarcastic,cynical, insincere, crass and more given to whinging which lends itself more to comedy than the traits of people on he right. Mockery and tearing at the fabric of society gets more laughs.

Rumpy Pumpy

Wings. Fûck wings. Comedians should tell jokes.

brevity

The wings seemingly have gone to extremes these days.

Just because someone is left wing doesn't mean they are a tree hugger and "soft on crime" and if someone is right wing doesn't mean they are a Nazi.

There are a lot of noble values in both conservative and liberal mindsets, people just don't want to engage each other anymore.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Wibbs wrote: »

Someone like Bill Burr is very popular and he's not exactly left wing.

He is the funniest comedian around. And he doesn't seem like he has weird sex issues.

BillyBobBS

Ronald Reagan said, "If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism."

What we are now seeing in America and indeed the world over is people afraid to express their political views in fear of how others will react. It's a genuine fear and a horrible state of affairs for us all.

9or10

tigger123 wrote: »

Jim Davidson and Bernard Mathews are the only two right wing comedians I can think of. Both horrendously ****e.

Did you mean Bernard Manning? The other guy was stuffing Turkeys - probably quite funny in its own way though probably not a barrel of laughs for the Turkeys

myshirt

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Ronald Reagan said, "If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism."

What we are now seeing in America and indeed the world over is people afraid to express their political views in fear of how others will react. It's a genuine fear and a horrible state of affairs for us all.

Yes, you are right. There is a massive gap between what popular culture and media wants you to believe, and what people think at home when all the noise has stopped.

By far the most prominent one at the moment is left wing feminist hysteria. One might laugh, by these are very, very dangerous people indeed.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Ronald Reagan said, "If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism."

What we are now seeing in America and indeed the world over is people afraid to express their political views in fear of how others will react. It's a genuine fear and a horrible state of affairs for us all.

The problem with conservative viewpoints I have is that they sometimes tend to be more an attack on the left than an expression of right-wing ideals, I's just loony left this, soft touch left that; and I'm supposed to take this as a comprehensive well-thought-out viewpoint.

myshirt wrote: »

By far the most prominent one at the moment is left wing feminist hysteria. One might laugh, by these are very, very dangerous people indeed.

That said, I would totally agree with this: but I've had several occasions where I've had to point out the fourth-wave feminism and liberalism are actually not the same thing.

SeanW

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The problem with conservative viewpoints I have is that they sometimes tend to be more an attack on the left than an expression of right-wing ideals, I's just loony left this, soft touch left that; and I'm supposed to take this as a comprehensive well-thought-out viewpoint.

You've never seen Seth Meyers. (US "Comedian") his show is basically left-wing propganda (constant G.O.P bashing) masquerading as comedy.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

SeanW wrote: »

You've never seen Seth Meyers. (US "Comedian") his show is basically left-wing propganda (constant G.O.P bashing) masquerading as comedy.

True, I haven't but you've done nothing to counter my point. What exactly does he say? What are examples of his propoganda? Does he just show up and say "right wing, huh?" and get a few lsughs?

You're presenting this as fact and expecting me to go off and watch a few youtube clips (which I don't have time for or access to right now), I presume, without even giving me examples of what he has said that ilustrate your point.

Are you judging his show purely based on his political stance?

Harry Palmr

The right wing tend to be flummoxed by humour anyway. God won't let them laugh except in that "yuk yuk yuk ye-haw" way if someone falls over on the ice.

The_Valeyard

Graham Lenihan seems so bitter these days.

Dunno. It's probably hard to be funny... and be a nazi.

biko

I did not know Graham Lenihan existed before this thread.
I will go back to not caring about him after I browse away.

Halloween Jack

suicide_circus wrote: »

There are definitely factors at play that keep right wing people out of the media other than Fox News. The Entertainment industry is a bastion of left leaning "progressive" thinking.

He may have a point in so far as those on the left tend to be more sarcastic,cynical, insincere, crass and more given to whinging which lends itself more to comedy than the traits of people on he right. Mockery and tearing at the fabric of society gets more laughs.

Haha, Humourless and bitter, a winning combo on the right

17larsson

Wibbs wrote: »

Someone like Bill Burr is very popular and he's not exactly left wing.

Well he's not right wing either

darkdubh

I'm not a fan of dividing everyone into left and right political camps. As someone said earlier many comedians would be regarded as more libertarian. Its part of a wider trend taking in identity politics and tagging people as white male, straight white male, people of colour non binary this and that etc.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

suicide_circus wrote: »

There are definitely factors at play that keep right wing people out of the media other than Fox News. The Entertainment industry is a bastion of left leaning "progressive" thinking.

He may have a point in so far as those on the left tend to be more sarcastic,cynical, insincere, crass and more given to whinging which lends itself more to comedy than the traits of people on he right. Mockery and tearing at the fabric of society gets more laughs.

That's mostly because artists (not just conedians) tend to be expressive and that means liberal thinking.

Collie D

It seems all the right do these days is whinge about being downtrodden by the liberal elites. Doesn't exactly make good comedy.

And they call the left snowflakes.

Harry Palmr

biko wrote: »

I did not know Graham Linehan existed before this thread.
I will go back to not caring about him after I browse away.

What? Fr Ted, Black Books, IT Crowd, Motherland, Count Arthur Strong. Where have you been since about 1994?

darkdubh

Harry Palmr wrote: »

What? Fr Ted, Black Books, IT Crowd, Motherland, Count Arthur Strong. Where have you been since about 1994?

Don't forget his masterpiece Val Falvey TD.

Gwynplaine

I still don't know what it means to be left wing or right wing.
Anyone else?

20Cent

Gwynplaine wrote: »

I still don't know what it means to be left wing or right wing.
Anyone else?

Left wing care about others.
Right wing only care about yourself fcuk everyone else.

GerryDerpy

Was at a gig recently where the comedian asked for a show of hands from those who think Idris Elba should play James Bond. He then shamed those who didn’t show hands.

Tom Mann Centuria

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Was at a gig recently where the comedian asked for a show of hands from those who think Idris Elba should play James Bond. He then shamed those who didn’t show hands.

Long show was it?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

20Cent wrote: »

Left wing care about others.
Right wing only care about yourself fcuk everyone else.

As we've descended into the left v right crap, I think I'll unsubscribe from the thread. Shame, it was an interesting topic.

GerryDerpy

20Cent wrote: »

Left wing care about others.
Right wing only care about yourself fcuk everyone else.

They don’t actually care about others. They care what others think about them.

Ulysses Gaze

Gwynplaine wrote: »

I still don't know what it means to be left wing or right wing.
Anyone else?

Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism. Right wing politics embraces social or economic conservatism.

However, both have splinter groups which drag their good names into the mud.

1. Far Left Wing = Everyone who doesn't believe in everything we say 100% is a Fascist Scumbag who deserves to be smashed in the face with rocks.

2. Far Right Wing = Everyone who doesn't look like us and believe what we say 100% is a Traitor to their country, and white people, and deserves to be smashed in the face with rocks.

Everyone else on the Left and Right generally just gets on with things and looks at those two groups and thinks

"What the **** is wrong with these two groups of idiots?"

But this is dragging this thread off course.

Anyway on Linehan....

I wish someone who stated that they were leaving Twitter for good would actually have the courage of their convictions and...you know... leave it for good.

GerryDerpy

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Long show was it?

I’d say less than 2% kept their hands down.

20Cent

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I’d say less than 2% kept their hands down.

How is who plays James Bond left wing?

Also what do you mean by "shame"? he told some jokes!!

GerryDerpy

20Cent wrote: »

How is who plays James Bond left wing?

Also what do you mean by "shame"? he told some jokes!!

Idris Elba be black. It is considered a progressive left viewpoint that a black man plays Bond.

Shame as in “so we still have racism in modern Ireland”. No jokes.

20Cent

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Idris Elba be black. It is considered a progressive left viewpoint that a black man plays Bond.

Shame as in “so we still have racism in modern Ireland”. No jokes.

Comedy show with no jokes should've got your money back.

So thinking Elba shouldn't play Bond is a regressive right wing viewpoint.

johnnyskeleton

20Cent wrote: »

Left wing care about others.
Right wing only care about yourself fcuk everyone else.

By that you mean left wing views tend towards collectivism and the rights of the state and right wing favours the protection of individual rights against the state?

GerryDerpy

20Cent wrote: »

Comedy show with no jokes should've got your money back.

So thinking Elba shouldn't play Bond is a regressive right wing viewpoint.

It was an awful show.

Not caring about the colour of Bond’s skin is not racist, of that I am sure.

20Cent

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

By that you mean left wing views tend towards collectivism and the rights of the state and right wing favours the protection of individual rights against the state?

Big simplistic.
Right wingers tend to be the ones who want most state intrusion into peoples lives.

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john.han

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Idris Elba be black. It is considered a progressive left viewpoint that a black man plays Bond.

Shame as in “so we still have racism in modern Ireland”. No jokes.

It's only considered a progressive left viewpoint by left wing idiots and right wing idiots are threatened for some reason by this. Point is idiots on both ends of the spectrum are ruining it for everyone else.

AllGunsBlazing

What is it about Irish people in the entertainment industry that turns us into such boorish, self-important blowhards?

Back when Father Ted was riding high he always came across as very self effacing and witty. Now he just seems like a bit of a twat.

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johnnyskeleton wrote: »

By that you mean left wing views tend towards collectivism and the rights of the state and right wing favours the protection of individual rights against the state?

The left has been more likely to be socially liberal than the right. That the economic right didn’t want the government increasing taxes, interfering with business etc didn’t mean it didn’t want the government interfering with sexuality. It was the left that supported decriminalisation of homosexuality and gat marriage and more.

GerryDerpy

john.han wrote: »

It's only considered a progressive left viewpoint by left wing idiots and right wing idiots are threatened for some reason by this. Point is idiots on both ends of the spectrum are ruining it for everyone else.

I agree. I think anyone that follows an ideology is an idiot. Evidence based policies is the way to go.

Rumple Stillson

I think the easiest way to think of right wing and left wing is in terms of wealth. There is an inherent selfishness in human behaviour so people will lean towards the viewpoint which best serves their needs.

I know I'm making a rather large generalisation but people with money want their money and property protected and tend to be conservative in their outlook.

People with little personal wealth tend towards the left which aims for more redistribution of wealth.

On a lot of the left/right wing issues, things are not as clear cut. Many people of the right will be in favour of "left" causes and vice versa.

VinLieger

20Cent wrote: »

Big simplistic.
Right wingers tend to be the ones who want most state intrusion into peoples lives.

Thats also a very simplistic statement, the extremes of both sides which are by far the loudest voices in any political discorse these days probably want about the same levels of state control, its just in different aspects or areas of society

Vlad Kelly

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

As we've descended into the left v right crap, I think I'll unsubscribe from the thread. Shame, it was an interesting topic.

Odd comment, seeing as you contributed to precisely that with your posts.

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That said modern “liberalism” is a virtue signalling mess of crackpots.

I’d turn some of the criticism around - why is it that it is the more politically correct pro feminist comedians who are more likely to **** off in front of women?

Some comedians are left wing. Most are apolitical. I’d say Larry David doesn’t exactly come across as a feminist but I’d also be surprised if he were found out to be abusing his power over women.

It’s a general rule that people in public life that are keen to make us aware how right on they are about any subject are the ones to watch on that very subject.

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