Do You Believe Dogs Have Feelings?

whoopsadoodles

bigar wrote: »

Feelings no. They have primal reactions just as most animals like fear, anger and joy. .

You mean....fear, anger and joy aren't feelings?

whoopsadoodles

diomed wrote: »

. I noticed that when I decide to share a biscuit with a dog but have made no move he senses it and approaches.

My dog knows "all gone". I didn't even mean teach it but she knows it well!

"All gone pupsicles" and off she toddles. So cute

diomed

Dogs or cats never get upset or teary eyed when someone gets knocked out on the X factor.
They have no feelings.

kylith

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I think what he's getting at is the utter hypocrisy and anthropomorphism involved with dog lovers who eat animals yet share stories about dog meat in Asia on Facebook

(I just wanted any excuse to say anthropomorphism again)

Who doesn't love an excuse to say anthropomorphism?

I can understand being annoyed at the hypocrisy. I've eaten horse. I would eat dog or cat, if it was humanely reared and killed.

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Ah yes cos that knocker bolt driven into them is pleasant eh;). LOL

Again: they never feel it. Even if the animal hasn't been stunned the brain is destroyed before it has time to register the impact on the skull.

Fear and panic produce hormones which ruin the taste of the meat, plus you don't want a tonne of beef cow rampaging around in a panic. It is in the meat industry's interest to have the animals as calm as possible.

_Brian

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

really? jeesus how could you.

Eat dog ?
Meah, it’s just meat and I’m kinda curious about these things when they’re there in front of me.

Many people visiting Asia bawk to see chickens killed street side and then cooked and served at their table, that’s stupid, if your willing to eat the meat you should be willin to see it killed. I’d rather see the chicken killed than wonder was it really chicken.

Was talking to a friend last time there and he said “ when westerners see an animal they see how cute it is, Asians see it and think, how will I cook that”, I really laughed as it indeed seems to be true.

dealornodeal23

bigar wrote: »

Feelings no. They have primal reactions just as most animals like fear, anger and joy. But feelings like guilt, shame or pride are just something humans want to see in them. A lot of people say dogs and cats have facial expressions as well which is also no true but still people believe it.

Hope you don't own a pet

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

It's a question that will get more serious and informed answers on the animal forum really.

I suppose the main reason I posed the question was basically to kind of know why our dog seems to show more affection to one member of the family over the other though we all love him just as much. It's just one of those things i've wondered about for a very long time so I suppose I should have posted my question on the animal forum. I find some of the answers very informal and interesting so far.

pheasant tail

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I think what he's getting at is the utter hypocrisy and anthropomorphism involved with dog lovers who eat animals yet share stories about dog meat in Asia on Facebook

(I just wanted any excuse to say anthropomorphism again)

I agree, 99% of people are pet lovers, not animal lovers

s15r330

bigar wrote: »

Feelings no.

You are wrong

Ande1975

They absolutely have feelings... this gets me everytime

Edward M

Natalie Purple Racism wrote: »

I suppose the main reason I posed the question was basically to kind of know why our dog seems to show more affection to one member of the family over the other though we all love him just as much. It's just one of those things i've wondered about for a very long time so I suppose I should have posted my question on the animal forum. I find some of the answers very informal and interesting so far.

Our dogs have feelings of course.
Our older dog, a Jack Russell, is very fond of our second oldest son, he was bought as a puppy when his older brother started school to keep him company. He is twelve now (the dog) and he is always brighter and happier when our second lad is with him. He is,also quite jealous of our 3 year old king Charles, who has quite an attachment to myself. They regularly by for attention from us all.
Anyone who thinks dogs have no feelings, doesn't know dogs.

_Dara_

kylith wrote: »

Balderdash.

I've been to slaughterhouses. They saunter into them grand and the most 'suffering' they feel is being nervous about being someplace new. Then they get an electric shock that knocks them out before they know what's happening.

I don't think it always works out so smoothly. The above is the ideal but with the sheer volume of animals to be slaughtered, it can be rushed and therefore not done right. I'm not so naive as to think that every cow slaughtered has a painless death. And let's not even get started on pigs and chicken. Welfare standards for sheep and cows are pretty good in this country. Pigs and chickens on the other hand...

mad muffin

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Yes, I believe dogs have feelings but I think peoples are more important!

How is that even possible?! All dogs go to heaven. All people do not.

RasTa

I'd have no problem eating a dog if it turned into sustainable meat.

faceman

Some people in this thread have no feelings!

sonofenoch

If an animal can feel pain it has feelings, so all animals have feelings ........emotions? maybe not or not as we know it


the emotion of hate is only found in one animal, guess who

whoopsadoodles

Ande1975 wrote: »

They absolutely have feelings... this gets me everytime

I can watch most things but I had to stop that after half a second. That's far too upsetting. Jesus.

Floki

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

So why do people have a problem with dogs being eaten and not pigs?

Do people have a problem with dogs eating pork or beef or chicken?

Even better. Would people kill a pig for their dog??

McCrack

Ande1975 wrote: »

They absolutely have feelings... this gets me everytime

It appears to be having a seizure

corner of hells

In times like this I always think of my grandfather's JRT. Bought as pup when gramps retired to be his companion as he moved into his senior years.
Absolutely devoted to each other ,however turned out the bastard dog was a psychopath.
He bit everyone , me and 26 cousins and various aunts and uncle.
Things came to a head when he bit a doctor on a house call to visit my grandfather.
So the day came when he was brought to the pound where he bit two more staff .So yes I do believe dogs have feelings , rage comes to my mind.

I now have my own JRT and he likes a fry for breakfast on the weekend.

kylith

McCrack wrote: »

It appears to be having a seizure

Looks like heatstroke.

Dogs don't cry like humans do. Tho difficulty breathing that that dog is having is very serious and worrying.

Dr Crayfish

I didn't watch the video but how does the dog know its owner is in the grave? Can it distinguish the smell of decomposing flesh down to the individual?

MilesMorales1

I assume these people who think they don't have emotions don't have pets. Like **** they don't have emotions and empathy with us.

Fuzzy Clam

kylith wrote: »

Course they do. My dog was in a sulk with me for days after I went on holiday and left him in kennels.

Most animals have feelings, at least basic ones.

Likewise.
I collected my dog, a lab, after leaving her in the kennels for a couple of days when I had to go abroad for my dads funeral , and she had a massive sulk. Wouldn't aknoweledge me when I collected her and it was hours later before she would "speak" to me.
Yes, dogs have feelings.
They also have a sense of humour. But that's for a different thread.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

100%

I have 2 and if the older one gets upset he'll poop on the floor. If I'm away from him for any length of time he'll poop, if he gets given out to he'll poop, if he isn't played with or given enough attention he'll poop.

They worry, they sulk, they get excited, they know when they're bold. They have lots of feelings

Miss Demeanour

Saul Scary Velcro wrote: »

100%

I have 2 and if the older one gets upset he'll poop on the floor. If I'm away from him for any length of time he'll poop, if he gets given out to he'll poop, if he isn't played with or given enough attention he'll poop.

They worry, they sulk, they get excited, they know when they're bold. They have lots of feelings

Sooooo......they feel like they want to poop lots.







I jest!

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Miss Demeanour wrote: »

Sooooo......they feel like they want to poop lots.







I jest!

Haha if I upset him he takes a dump on my polished porcelain tiles

Miss Demeanour

Saul Scary Velcro wrote: »

Haha if I upset him he takes a dump on my polished porcelain tiles

Shoesday if ever I was expecting a reply to a thread it was yours

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Miss Demeanour wrote: »

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Miss Demeanour

Saul Scary Velcro wrote: »

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Lucy8080

diomed wrote: »

Dogs or cats never get upset or teary eyed when someone gets knocked out on the X factor.
They have no feelings.

Not true. My dog watches X factor. He often had to hit the "paws" button on the remote,and take a moment for himself ,that year that Jedward kept getting through.

He's alright now, but he found it upsetting at the time.

borderlinemeath

This chart gives a good example of the emotions and feelings that dogs experience. It's widely understood that dogs develop to the mental ability of a 2yr old child, so basically having a dog is like owning a hairy toddler - needs toilet training, feeding, mental stimulation, praise, guidance etc.

It's quite important to note what they don't experience - guilt being one of them, but one that lots dog owners believe their dogs capable of. What tends to happen is that dogs learn that their owners are angry, or give out to them based on an association, be that their owners tone, body language or worse (if they hit the dog. We misinterpret what we perceive as guilt, but is actually fear.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

corner of hells wrote: »

In times like this I always think of my grandfather's JRT. Bought as pup when gramps retired to be his companion as he moved into his senior years.
Absolutely devoted to each other ,however turned out the bastard dog was a psychopath.
He bit everyone , me and 26 cousins and various aunts and uncle.
Things came to a head when he bit a doctor on a house call to visit my grandfather.
So the day came when he was brought to the pound where he bit two more staff .So yes I do believe dogs have feelings , rage comes to my mind.

I now have my own JRT and he likes a fry for breakfast on the weekend.

My grandfather had a Jack Russell and I remember he was a vicious little fecker. Anytime the postman would come to the door he would act like a lunatic and my grandfather would have to leave him out the back yard even though he was classed as a house dog and was very calm around family members. What is it with dogs and postman.

Voodoo_rasher

I believe that dogs have a Soul.

Crea

McCrack wrote: »

It appears to be having a seizure

My father went away for a week and I was minding his German Shepard. She did this a couple of evenings. She was able to walk around and jump up on the couch for a cuddle while doing it so definitely not a seizure or heatstroke. She pined like crazy for him.

kylith

Crea wrote: »

My father went away for a week and I was minding his German Shepard. She did this a couple of evenings. She was able to walk around and jump up on the couch for a cuddle while doing it so definitely not a seizure or heatstroke. She pined like crazy for him.

Could be a temper tantrum. My friend's dog fakes fits when she's frustrated.

borderlinemeath

Natalie Purple Racism wrote: »

My grandfather had a Jack Russell and I remember he was a vicious little fecker. Anytime the postman would come to the door he would act like a lunatic and my grandfather would have to leave him out the back yard even though he was classed as a house dog and was very calm around family members. What is it with dogs and postman.

Territoriality.

Dogs love their home and their family, some dogs take it to another level guarding their territory and JRTS are well known for it. Basically the postman serves as a daily reminder that the dog is doing a good job. He or she approaches the house so doggy barks his little head off. Postman leaves letters and walks away and isn't invited in. Doggy is completely reassured that they did a good job scaring Postman away. Gates, doorbells/ doorknobs are all triggers for the behaviour.

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borderlinemeath wrote: »

Territoriality.

Dogs love their home and their family, some dogs take it to another level guarding their territory and JRTS are well known for it. Basically the postman serves as a daily reminder that the dog is doing a good job. He or she approaches the house so doggy barks his little head off. Postman leaves letters and walks away and isn't invited in. Doggy is completely reassured that they did a good job scaring Postman away. Gates, doorbells/ doorknobs are all triggers for the behaviour.

Funny enough you should say that my dog always barks when the door bell rings or if the courier drops off a parcel. I suppose It's a good reminder if you have some uninvited guests trying to break into your home.

andekwarhola

Think dogs can feel ashamed or at least approximate it.

My friend had a dog that found a load of easter eggs that he'd stashed away. Walked in and immediately heard said mutt scooting upstairs sharpish. Leaving a scene of wrappers, half eaten eggs and carnage. Mutt was found hiding under bed with an extremely hangdog look on his face.

Also puked afterwards, of course.

borderlinemeath

andekwarhola wrote: »

Think dogs can feel ashamed or at least approximate it.

My friend had a dog that found a load of easter eggs that he'd stashed away. Walked in and immediately heard said mutt scooting upstairs sharpish. Leaving a scene of wrappers, half eaten eggs and carnage. Mutt was found hiding under bed with an extremely hangdog look on his face.

Also puked afterwards, of course.

Again if you refer back to the chart I posted on the previous page - it's not shame/guilt - even though they do a brilliant job of putting on a demeanor that we associate with it - but it is primarily Fear. Fear of the reaction because they recognise/hear their human is angry, and when human gets angry, bad things might happen, so best to put on the avoidance behaviour look, because they've learned in the past that it slightly appeases their humans.

Lucky that he puked, chocolate, or to be precise theobromine, is very poisonous to dogs. A high cocoa content bar of chocolate (probably about half a bar of dark Green and Blacks organic) can kill a dog. Although most of our regular milk chocolate is far higher in sugar and less cocoa so caused sickness rather than poisoning. Not worth the risk though.

Hammer89

natashaob6 wrote: »

When i'm on the phone and i put it on loud speaker as soon as he hears my sons voice he stands on all fours with he's ears pricked up and sometimes runs around the sitting room with excitement. So I was wondering does anyone else out there have a pet dog that might react in a similar way and if so do you believe a dog has feelings.

Is it definitely a dog ye?

faceman

borderlinemeath wrote: »

This chart gives a good example of the emotions and feelings that dogs experience. It's widely understood that dogs develop to the mental ability of a 2yr old child, so basically having a dog is like owning a hairy toddler - needs toilet training, feeding, mental stimulation, praise, guidance etc.

It's quite important to note what they don't experience - guilt being one of them, but one that lots dog owners believe their dogs capable of. What tends to happen is that dogs learn that their owners are angry, or give out to them based on an association, be that their owners tone, body language or worse (if they hit the dog. We misinterpret what we perceive as guilt, but is actually fear.

It’s a theory but it’s difficult to say for certain that’s is accurate given the complexity of those emotions.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

Hammer89 wrote: »

Is it definitely a dog ye?

Of course it is. Well i think so it has four legs a tail and it barks.

Hammer89

natashaob6 wrote: »

Of course it is. Well i think so it has four legs a tail and it barks.

It wasn't standing on all fours though. Or maybe it was. I don't know if a standing dog, equates to just a normal dog, like when it's walking, or when a dog gets up on its hind legs.

Hector Bellend

I'm pretty sure my dog had feelings the last time i kicked him in the bollix

dealornodeal23

Hector Bellend wrote: »

I'm pretty sure my dog had feelings the last time i kicked him in the bollix

Have you nothing better to do than posting this awful stupid comment.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

Hector Bellend wrote: »

I'm pretty sure my dog had feelings the last time i kicked him in the bollix

You could do with a good kick in the nuts.

finno

Hector Bellend wrote: »

I'm pretty sure my dog had feelings the last time i kicked him in the bollix

Aren't you hard as nails :rolleyes:

skylight1987

I feel my dog is like a mute human . sometimes I think he is going to scream NO !!!!!!!! like Ceaser the ape in Rise of Planet of the Apes........

davidk1394

All animals are sentient beings which means they have the same basic feelings as us. Cows sheep, pigs are a lot like dogs. If you feed them or care for them they will remember you and follow you around. Dogs also have primal insticts such as hunting. So when dogs attacked our sheep they were full of adrenaline and only had one thing on their mind but when caught he knew the jig was up but it was too late for apology at that stage.