Fancies For Today III

zimmermania

Backed 3 ew today at Ascot Flaming Rib 3.05

Mangoustine 4.20 French horses often underbet in th UK and has form with Cachet and is a bigger price.

5.0c Persist lightly raced and may well improve a lot.

3 we singles and an optimistic ew trixie.

zimmermania

Got a few quid as Paddy was paying 7 places and Persist managed 7th,Flaming Rib 2nd at 14/1 and Mangoustine only 9th.

zimmermania

CAMPANELLE is a very good sprinter who has won at Royal Ascot for the past 2 years,done me a good turn last year when getting the race from the stewards having been pushed wide by the winner in the final furlong.

This is a very competitive race but the ew value at 10 or 11/1 (freely available) and 6 places must be CAMPANELLE and the fact that she can go from the front or come late makes her the days best bet ew,she also stays further than 6 furlongs is a plus on this stiff track.A drop of rain would be a help. Ascot 4.20.

GULLIVER always runs well here in big field handicaps and is worth a little ew at 20s and 25s in places in the 5.oc Ascot where PP and some others go 7 places.

I suggested RESHOUN was worth backing in the Ascot stakes a few days ago and we got the place money at 14s when RESHOUN stayed on well to be placed over two and a half miles.

He runs again tomorrow over even further, two miles 6 furlongs (the longest flat race in the UK or Ireland).

He would be getting weight from quite a few of the runners if this were a handicap and it looks a tall order for him to be competitive in the 6.10.

Because he stays so well and if none the worse for his run a few days ago i believe he is worth a few quid ew at 33s and maybe more, i hope to see him running on when others have had enough and outrunning his odds and rating.

crushproof

2 out of 3, covers a few beers tonight. Cheers Zimmer.

zimmermania

My non punter son gave me this today,for the craic I said I have no use for a gift voucher

Son thinking I did not fully understand explained that I would use the 100 to bet with,I laughed and said "sure i never lose". If only

FLOOPER

Be careful Zimmer.

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zimmermania

Thanks for your concern Flooper,i do not know what procedures to get paid on winning tickets in Australia but i can assure you i will be able to lodge the gift voucher to my account as long as i am in possession of the physical printed voucher.

I will probably be in my local PP shop in the next few days and i will lodge it to my account.

zimmermania

The Irish derby gets most attention this weekend but the other one,the Pitmens Derby where the local proletariat come out in force in Newcastle to watch one of the richest handicaps in Europe.

Its official title is the Northumberland Plate and despite the fact that its run on the AW for the last 6 years it is still one of the toughest handicaps to unravel and the draw has a part to play despite the race being run over 2 miles.

Like many valuable handicaps this race is now attracting more classy runners and the days of finding one lurking at the bottom of the handicap are long gone.

I have a good look at the race and when i finalise my selection or selections i will post here if anyone is interested.

zimmermania

Hidden Pearl 4.40 Nottingham might be worth a few quid ew today.

Trained by the enigmatic John Berry in Newmarket Hidden Pearl has never won a race but if held up today might get his in front I backed it ew.

zimmermania

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119239645#Comment_119239645

I will be interested to see what the stewards say to the bunch of apprentices who refused to close up on the front runner who won by 26 lengths,i am just happy that Hidden Pearl got 2nd to give me a small profit.

zimmermania

My attempt to find the winner of the Northumberland Plate has resulted in me backing a horse tonight at 16/1 b.o.g 5 places.

I got a friend of mine to have 20 ew on ALRIGHT SUNSHINE at 16s,i dont have an account with Boyles and PP does not go b.o.g until 8 oc saturday morning.

I backed him tonight just to play safe but i do not expect the horse to be backed and he may well be at bigger odds and maybe 6 places somewhere and in that case i will back him again.

When i looked at the race i was hoping to drop on a young (4 or 5 year old) horse on the way up and there are a few like that in the race,but my search led me to the 7 year old ALRIGHT SUNSHINE who has done most off his racing on turf but he has form here and was unlucky off the same mark last year.

The formbook says he was out the back and ran on to finish 10th btn 4 and a half lengths but thats only half the story.

Drawn 18 he was in the last half dozen for most of the race and when moving up to challenge about 2 and a half furlongs out he was denied a run 2 or 3 times and when finally getting a run ran on really well into 10th 4 and a half lengths off the winner.

Off the same mark now and after 3 very good runs this year inc an excellent 4th at Royal Ascot last time running on strongly over two furlongs shorter than saturdays race.

Drawn 7 this year he will not have to travel so wide and with any luck in running should be competitive.

One thing to note the finishing straight i Newcastle is narrow enough and some runners will be short of room but that is factored into the price and more so if the horse drifts in price.

Timberrrrrrrr

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Sky bet paying 7 places, currently @16/1 on there.

zimmermania

Sky and 365 are probably the best i have a dormant 365 account but at this stage of my life i am not going to have too many accounts,my only online account is with PP though i am thinking of opening an account with Boyles simply because they are BOG the night before.

If we are having any success with" live ones"we will be restricted or have accounts closed so i am mainly a cash punter for many of my bets that are a result of information and if i do bet online i keep it to a minimum on that type bet.

I like the PP play card because one can use it as a cash card for withdrawls and it means trips to the hole in the wall are much less nowdays and PP shops are much easier to find,put cash in over the counter and withdraw over the counter and no fees.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119242477#Comment_119242477

In fairness I've never had any issues with sky bet limiting bets, also like the fact that when you cash out that's it, no option for the next 24 hours to cancel any a cash out and money is usually in my bank account within 24 hours.

zimmermania

My bet in the Plate is already on and with PP now going 5 places i will have a saver on Alan Kings Rainbow Dreamer at 16/1.

My other bets are BRANCASTER 1.15 Newcastle who was a good 3rd at York following a layoff of 529 days has bottom weight and if he does not bounce has a very good chance at 6/1.

GLEN SHEIL has plenty of group form and in 5 runs at Newcastle has 3 wins a 2nd and a3rd and can play a part in the 2.25.

At Chester THE NEW MARWAN can win the 2.30,his owner loves to win here and he is the best of his 3 entries and can make up for a narrow defeat here last time at 6/1.

The Irish Derby looks beween the top two in the betting and its not easy to predict whether the filly can beat the colt and i will not get involved.

However i have a small ew on Jim Bolgers at 50/1,he is highly regarded and could run a good race.

bassy

3.45 lionel 10/1 curragh EW

zimmermania

A bad day at the office,i cant remember when my fancies ran as badly,

But that happens and i am sure i will recover.

bassy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119250686#Comment_119250686

it happens zimmer,but you are the top man here :) :)

zimmermania

Texas Boy 5.10 Roscommon.

bassy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119259948#Comment_119259948

no write up zimmer,would that be a win or ew ?.

zimmermania

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119259979#Comment_119259979

I always prefer to bet ew if the horse is an ew price as anything can go wrong and a horse may be unlucky some prefer win only,this is a strong bet today although the price is gone since yesterday evening when 18/1 was available.

zimmermania

Ground has come right for Eshaada,a good bet at 5 to2 in the 2.40 Haydock.

A couple of outsiders that can give us a return today

Achnamara 20 to1 2.05 Haydock was drawn badly last time but ran well before that and is worth a little ew today.

Vindolanda is 40 to 1 in the 3.15 Haydock and that price is way too big,runs best at this time of year if there is some cut in the ground.

Just gets in as a reserve and is way better than a rank outsider so well worth an ew bet.

Youthful King was backed from 8s to 7 to 4 12 days ago and duly won.

Raised 3 lbs and could do well again today in the 2.45 at Sandown at 5 to1 we.

jobeenfitz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119279485#Comment_119279485

Hi Zimm, youthful King is in 4.45 he's at 10s now.

ShamoBuc

Favorite Moon 6/1 pp 5.05 Bellewstown e/w

realdanbreen

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I had to chance a little ew on Zimmerman in the 2.05 Haydock!

naughto

Did the same

crushproof

Likewise a small cheeky e/w in honour of Zimmer!

crushproof

Got Youthful King at 9/1, saved the day! Nice one Zim

zimmermania

Hi guys,was rushing when posting today,Youthful King was 8 to 1 when I posted and was the only one I got right but saved the day and I got a small profit.

Had visitors staying and did not have much time hence the wrong price and time but at least the horse cruised to victory.

zimmermania

There are a couple of races worth looking at Pontrefact today (i may see them on the phone as i will be at the JP extravaganza in Adare).

The fillies and mares listed race at 3.15 is not the best listed i ever saw and it may be worth backing dubai Love to return to something like her best.

She has run ok in her last 2 runs and the track may suit her.

The other bet is Chairmanofthe board in the 3.45 who can be excused a poor run in the Wokingham last time but has generally been in good form.

Two ew singles and an ew double.

Chancer3001

The mouse doctor runs in the 2nd today at fairyhouse. 9 horse race, I'm hoping he can manage a place. Available around 9 or 10/1. Im gonna have a small cut ew.

23 places in 59 runs according to skybet.

Likes fast ground. Bitta sunshine be ideal

Chancer3001

Well he drifted from 7s to 22/1... if he'd shown up missing a leg it wouldn't have drifted as much. Told its own story. A poor 6th or 7th

zimmermania

Tony Martin who trains the Mouse Doctor trained the winner NIBURU who is owned by a guy called Breslin who loves a winner in Galway and it may be worth keeping an eye the horse.

I was at the meeting this evening and it was obvious that the Mouse Doctor was not going to be competitive.

My visit to the track was rewarding as one i have an interest in came with a late run to win the 6.25 by a neck despite being drawn in stall 12 and having to concede ground most of the way around.

zimmermania

A couple of Heritage handicaps at Newmarket tomorrow worth more than £56,000 each offer two value bets imo.

This type of handicap is attracting better type horses these than many listed races and we have to look for a classy type on the way up rather than the traditional seasoned handicapper to get the job done.

In the 1.50 i fancy YONAFIS who won 3 AW races around a mile before running in the Britannia handicap at Royal Ascot,finishing 8th beaten 4 and a half lengths.

YONAFIS ran on steadily that day without ever threatening but that is not surprising because being by Golden Horn (derby winner) he will be suited by further and he was doing his best work at the finish and will be suited by the extra 2 furlongs and rates a strong ew bet.

Quite a few bookies are paying 4 places but PP is only paying 3 places but 1/4 odds and 4/1.

The other big handicap is the 3.oc and Candleford who hosed up by 6 lengths at Royal Ascot is hot favourite and with his trainer (Haggas) in great form Candleford could be hard to beat.

However he was raised 13 lbs for that win and could be vunerable to an improver.CONTACT was 7 and 1/4 lengths behind Candleford in Ascot but ran wide all the way and was staying on steadily without being slaughtered and looks to be suited by the extra two furlongs tomorrow.

At 7/1 and most books paying 5 places and a few paying 6 places CONTACT looks a very solid ew bet.

Two ew singles and an ew double for me and i am reasonably confident that both are decent bets.

realdanbreen

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Am I dreaming or did pp pay out on contact as a winner in the 3 o clock? On line bet .

Hibbert

Paid me out as a place anyways online

zimmermania

Most shops were paying 5 places and a few were paying 6 as i said in my post,i did not look at my account but i will now but i doubt very much if i will get more than i am entitled to.

zimmermania

Plenty racing sat and it may not be easy to get winners,i will try to put up a couple worth backing before lunch but to amuse myself tonight i had a look at the big handicaps at 3 different meetings and heres what i came up with a bit of fun might had for smallish stakes with whatever bookie pays the most places.

John Smiths Cup 4.05 York 23 runners.BRILLIANT LIGHT with Danny Tudhope up for the in-form Suroor,Danny finds it dificult to do less than 9 stone and with 9 one this is perfect.

Was hampered a couple of times when 4th at Royal Ascot over further and has a chance in this at 10/1 EW PP 6 PLACES.

In the 3.50 Newmarket JUMBY must have a chance over 7 furlongs though he mainly runs over 6 in the top handicaps he has won over 7 and was staying on when 3rd in a big handicap at Ascot last time,with a top class french jockey on board and the trainer in excellent form JUMBY must have a big chance,because i am not absolutely certain he is as good over seven furlongs i may have a little on RHOSCOLYN who was 3rd of 29 over 7 furlongs at Ascot last time and looks sure to run well 6 places PP.

Finally in the 3.oc Ascot if EQUALITY can break on level terms he will take beating in the 20 runner 5 furlong dash.

He was just held after a slow start in the big Epsom sprint at the derby meeting,5 places here and is a nice ew bet so heres hoping for a good break.

zimmermania

Tir Fairngire in the first ew and Reinforce in the 2nd at Navan

zimmermania

Boundless Ocean is well regarded,did notstay over the mile and a half and todays trip much more suitable.

I will not be surprised if he is up with the pace today and kicks on turning in getting those behind in trouble.

zimmermania

COUNT D'ORSAY, 3.08 Chester looks a decent ew bet in a valuable handicap over 5 furlongs,a low draw is important here but the 4 draw suits COUNT D'ORSAY as he likes to come from behind and i would not want him locked in on the rail.

The horse is reasonably well handicapped with Copper Knight,Gabrial the Devil and Look out Louis who he met recently,unusually for a sprinter he can get outpaced before running on strongly and the likely fast pace should suit.

Bet 365 go 9/1 and 4 places and that looks very good value, most other firms go 7/1 and as the horse runs well at this quirky track he is worth a decent bet.

zimmermania

3 more selections for today and I will leave it at that.

MARIA BRANWELL is short enough for the 3.30 super sprint worth a 100,000 to the winner but is impossible to oppose.

She would be giving lumps of weight away if this were a handicap but the weights are by how much horses cost at auction and Maria looks a"good thing" at around 2 to 1.

Two big races at Market Rasen and a bit of value to be had we with Pp going 4 places.

In the 2.41Galata Bridge seems to have been laid out for the race by Richard Newland and is the bet ew at 5 to1.

In the 3.14 Mahlers Promise is on a good mark and has won twice here and looks value at 8 to 1 ew,he has a handy weight,won over c and d last time out and should be competitive.

zimmermania

The 3 oc at Ascot is a valuable hotly contested handicap worth £77,310 to the winner.

My 4 against the field are CHIEFOFCHIEFS,ROPEY GUEST, TACTICAL and JUMBY.

I will probably have a few quid ew on CHIEFOFCHIEFS who runs well in this type of handicap but i have already invested 12 euro on a full perm tri-cast,that is 24 50 cent bet to get the first 3 in any order.

It seems a crazy bet but for small money its a bit of fun with the chance of a very big return.

The 4 horses mentioned above are all big field performers over 7 furlongs and i feel confident a couple of them at least will be placed (many books go 6 places).

realdanbreen

Anyone got a reliable one for Galway?

realdanbreen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119384542#Comment_119384542

Thanks for all the feedback. My own ew longshot is hdb' nuits st George in the 6.40, 28-1

realdanbreen

Galway, c'mon folks,day 3,anyone got anything??

zimmermania

Hard to get winners i Galway with fierce competitive racing,was there on monday and not going again until saturday and the crowds seemed bigger than ever before.My view is that we should enjoy the racing and keep stakes on the small side because this meeting is normally a bookies bonanza.

I,just like most punters like to get involved in too many races and at least by keeping stakes on the small side not too much damage will be done.

5.10 lightly raced COUNTRY QUEEN can feature.

5.40 SHOOT FIRST 8/1 will be trying for the shrewd Charlie Byrne and is worth an ew bet at 8s 5 places.

6.10 I backed TULLYPOLE ANNIE a week ago and can repay ew support at 8s.

6.40

7 year olds have won 6 of the last 11 Galway Plates and there are only three 7 year olds in todays race.

TWO have more weight than ideal (HEWICK 11.7 and GABYNAKO 11.7) of the two HEWICK is an exciting chaser trained by Shark Hanlon and is not without an ew chance at 14/1.However as most winners carry less than 11 stone one with a very good chance is FIRE ATTACK 10.7 inc claim and being the correct age must have a good chance.

7.50

DAIRERIN won on monday and it is worth looking at winners who are turned out again in Galway and that one is worth a few quid to win again.

If anyone has an appetite or punting at Goodwood i like the lightly raced SAMAHRAM IN THE 2.25 ew at 8/1,french trained runners do well here and at 8/1 is a good ew bet with Frankie on board and a reasonable draw.

zimmermania

Frankie got into a lot of trouble and with a clear run we would have collected.

At least we got the place money.

zimmermania

Main fancy Fire Attack came down in the lead when going well enough but the 7 year old Hewick dud the biz and a small bet landed.

realdanbreen

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Great to see Shark win the plate, with a horse bought for €850!