Ibrahim Halawa radio interview.

end of the road

Omackeral wrote: »

Sums you up perfectly.

It's right there in black and white and living colour and you simply refuse to see it. You've zero credibility if that's your stance.

i've 100% credibility. always have had always will have, no matter what.
at the end of the day ibriham was acquited of all charges and ultimately that is all that matters. everything else is inconsiquential.

darkdubh

Just watched on the player the bit on the LLS where he talks about his hand. He is very clearly speaking in the present tense and stating that he can't currently bend it. He is not speaking retrospectively.

deco nate

end of the road wrote: »

i've 100% credibility. always have had always will have, no matter what.
at the end of the day ibriham was acquited of all charges and ultimately that is all that matters. everything else is inconsiquential.

Tbf, you have no credibility to the majority of the posters on here at this stage. You chop and change "the truth" as you see fit from video that others have posted showing you "finger gate" and then you run backwards. Think i'm wrong. Read back.

Ulysses Gaze

Omackeral wrote: »

Sums you up perfectly.

It's right there in black and white and living colour and you simply refuse to see it. You've zero credibility if that's your stance.

EOTR is the Arsene Wenger of After Hours.

dreamliner

This thread has gone to the dogs, like all the other threads on this topic that ever existed, it needs to be shut down.

Omackeral

end of the road wrote: »

i've 100% credibility. always have had always will have, no matter what.

Nope. Wrong. Proof.

deco nate

dreamliner wrote: »

This thread has gone to the dogs, like all the other threads on this topic that ever existed, it needs to be shut down.

Pray tell why? Because it not going The way you want it to?

Newsflash, it doesn't work that way.
Please stop with the back seat moding

Omackeral

end of the road wrote: »

at the end of the day ibriham was acquited of all charges and ultimately that is all that matters. everything else is inconsiquential.

I agree that Ibrahim was acquited. I hope he can get on with his life and put all that behind him. I believe he was young and naive. I believe he went through a horrible time. I'm glad he's home.


I just can't stand your blind lying is all.

Vladimir Poontang

end of the road wrote: »

i've 100% credibility. always have had always will have, no matter what.
at the end of the day ibriham was acquited of all charges and ultimately that is all that matters. everything else is inconsiquential.

Just like OJ.

darkdubh

dreamliner wrote: »

This thread has gone to the dogs, like all the other threads on this topic that ever existed, it needs to be shut down.

Jesus not you again.

Naos

end of the road wrote: »

he never claimed that he couldn't close his hand now, in 2017.

end of the road wrote: »

i'm satisfied that it was exactly as i said it was.

I have not posted in this thread, nor will I after this - but here is what he said, verbatim:

"Look, that's my hand. I took a bullet you know, it's in there, you can see it there, I can't bend it properly, it doesn't close more than that, you know."

Omackeral

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

EOTR is the Arsene Wenger of After Hours.

See that's the problem with EOTR, he always tries to walk it in.

PeterParker957

Just FYI the definition in the dictionary of "credibility" is "the quality of being trusted or believed".

Make of that what you will!

dreamliner

darkdubh wrote: »

Jesus not you again.

You have an issue with facts and reason do you? I'm sorry, I'm not sorry.

dreamliner

Omackeral wrote: »

See that's the problem with EOTR, he always tries to walk it in.

I received a warning ( ) earlier for allegedly 'attacking' a poster. I haven't a clue how what I said is 'attacking', but on the point of insulting posters and not their posts ... why are things like this allowed?

Same standards should apply to all.

Omackeral

Naos wrote: »

I have not posted in this thread, nor will I after this - but here is what he said, verbatim:

"Look, that's my hand. I took a bullet you know, it's in there, you can see it there, I can't bend it properly, it doesn't close more than that, you know."

Ah it's obvious to any person with full cognitive abilities what he said.

You're asked for proof, you give it, still not good enough. You can lead a horse to the water at the end of the road, but you can't make it drink.

darkdubh

dreamliner wrote: »

You have an issue with facts and reason do you? I'm sorry, I'm not sorry.

That was at least the second time you asked for this thread for to be taken down.

deco nate

dreamliner wrote: »

I received a warning ( ) earlier for allegedly 'attacking' a poster. I haven't a clue how what I said is 'attacking', but on the point of insulting posters and not their posts ... why are things like this allowed?

Same standards should apply to all.

It does, you attack the post, not the poster.

Ie, you show the post up for what it is.
You never try to make out the poster is a fool.
How hard is that to understand?
STOP trying to drag the thread ot. If you have a problem with a mod pm him/her. Don't bring it onto the thread.

Omackeral

dreamliner wrote: »

I received a warning ( ) earlier for allegedly 'attacking' a poster. I haven't a clue how what I said is 'attacking', but on the point of insulting posters and not their posts ... why are things like this allowed?

Same standards should apply to all.

You'd have to ask the Moderators that I'm afraid. To be fair, I think the poster in question famously asks for proof a lot of the time. It was given to him and he blindly refuses it. So I think a bit of criticism is warranted.

PeterParker957

dreamliner wrote: »

darkdubh wrote: »

Jesus not you again.

You have an issue with facts and reason do you? I'm sorry, I'm not sorry.

Facts are great. Like the several lies he has been caught up in already.

I admire you actually. I'd want my friends to obfuscate situations when I was guilty of lying to the country that saved me.

JP Liz V1

smokingman wrote: »

Is that Prendervil guy the fella that was jacking off in front of everyone on a plane a few years back?

Yes Nurofen Neil Prendeville :P but to be fair, he asked the questions that Halawas didn't want or like but that needed to be asked

Mark Humphrys also was on with Neil

Omackeral

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Mark Humphrys also was on with Neil

Mark is actually on thread here with us and has offered to debate one of Ibrahim's biggest supporters on boards but that supporter hasn't got the courtesy to even resond. I personally suspect it's because he'll be tied up in knots by Humphrys, if not by himself. A rare wise move.

deco nate

Omackeral wrote: »

Mark is actually on thread here with us and has offered to debate one of Ibrahim's biggest supporters on boards but that supporter hasn't got the courtesy to even resond. I personally suspect it's because he'll be tied up in knots by Humphrys, if not by himself. A rare wise move.

Said supporter does not reply to other posters that point what has happened before, instead posts his/hers crazy take on what has happened.
The posts come across as so funny. The poster discredit himself/ herself with every post

Omackeral

dreamliner wrote: »

I received a warning ( ) earlier for allegedly 'attacking' a poster. I haven't a clue how what I said is 'attacking', but on the point of insulting posters and not their posts ... why are things like this allowed?

Same standards should apply to all.

Just on this, how do you construe that as attacking a poster? I provided a link top a video of Ibrahim being caught out on a basic enough lie. Everyone sees it. That poster pleads ignorance to it. Another poster likens him to Arsene Wenger, who often used the same tactic ''I didn't see it''. All I did was follow on with a well estabhlished little joke about Arsenal (Wenger's team) walking it in. No attack on eotr at all.

end of the road

deco nate wrote: »

Tbf, you have no credibility to the majority of the posters on here at this stage. You chop and change "the truth" as you see fit from video that others have posted showing you "finger gate" and then you run backwards. Think i'm wrong. Read back.

i have been consistent on my view in relation to how i believe the events in relation to his hand played out.

Omackeral wrote: »

Mark is actually on thread here with us and has offered to debate one of Ibrahim's biggest supporters on boards but that supporter hasn't got the courtesy to even resond. I personally suspect it's because he'll be tied up in knots by Humphrys, if not by himself. A rare wise move.

i wouldn't be tied up in knots. i'm just not going to go over old ground as it's availible in previous threads. there is also nothing to debate considering ibriham is home and was acquited. if there was evidence he did something he shouldn't have over there he would still be in jail.

Omackeral

end of the road wrote: »

there is also nothing to debate considering ibriham is home and was acquited.

Ok then bye bye

PeterParker957

end of the road wrote: »

deco nate wrote: »

Tbf, you have no credibility to the majority of the posters on here at this stage. You chop and change "the truth" as you see fit from video that others have posted showing you "finger gate" and then you run backwards. Think i'm wrong. Read back.

i have been consistent on my view in relation to how i believe the events in relation to his hand played out.

Omackeral wrote: »

Mark is actually on thread here with us and has offered to debate one of Ibrahim's biggest supporters on boards but that supporter hasn't got the courtesy to even resond. I personally suspect it's because he'll be tied up in knots by Humphrys, if not by himself. A rare wise move.

i wouldn't be tied up in knots. i'm just not going to go over old ground as it's availible in previous threads. there is also nothing to debate considering ibriham is home and was acquited. if there was evidence he did something he shouldn't have over there he would still be in jail.

You can be 100% consistently wrong.

May I please get your responses to these ?

1. Which is true - Halawa went to Egypt on holiday and was accidentally caught up in a protest whilst at the cinema OR he went to protest ?

2. Which is true - Halawa was shot in the hand, had both and entrance and an exit wound and extensive damage which was fixed by both an orthopaedic and a plastic surgeon whilst being held in solitary OR he lied.

Omackeral

Originally Posted by end of the road

i wouldn't be tied up in knots.

Proof please.

deco nate

PeterParker957 wrote: »

You can be 100% consistently wrong.

May I please get your responses to these ?

1. Which is true - Halawa went to Egypt on holiday and was accidentally caught up in a protest whilst at the cinema OR he went to protest ?

2. Which is true - Halawa was shot in the hand, had both and entrance and an exit wound and extensive damage which was fixed by both an orthopaedic and a plastic surgeon whilst being held in solitary OR he lied.

He was refused medical treatment for the egyptian government. And by some miracle he ended up sharing a cell with a doctor that repaired his hand without Any medical instruments. According to his sister's amazing eh? Seems like a made up story...

PeterParker957

deco nate wrote: »

PeterParker957 wrote: »

You can be 100% consistently wrong.

May I please get your responses to these ?

1. Which is true - Halawa went to Egypt on holiday and was accidentally caught up in a protest whilst at the cinema OR he went to protest ?

2. Which is true - Halawa was shot in the hand, had both and entrance and an exit wound and extensive damage which was fixed by both an orthopaedic and a plastic surgeon whilst being held in solitary OR he lied.

He was refused medical treatment for the egyptian government. And by some miracle he ended up sharing a cell with a doctor that repaired his hand without Any medical instruments. According to his sister's amazing eh? Seems like a made up story...

I'd swear I saw that very episode of MacGyver!!!

JP Liz V1

deco nate wrote: »

He was refused medical treatment for the egyptian government. And by some miracle he ended up sharing a cell with a doctor that repaired his hand without Any medical instruments. According to his sister's amazing eh? Seems like a made up story...

Is this the same cell he went on hunger strike to get painted

And how was his mother able to get food into him? Did she bring him taytos and black puddings from Ireland?

PeterParker957

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

deco nate wrote: »

He was refused medical treatment for the egyptian government. And by some miracle he ended up sharing a cell with a doctor that repaired his hand without Any medical instruments. According to his sister's amazing eh? Seems like a made up story...

Is this the same cell he went on hunger strike to get painted

And how was his mother able to get food into him? Did she bring him taytos and black puddings from Ireland?

And Galtee cheese. Obvs!

A Little Pony

The claim that his hand was shot to pieces and barely hanging on, absolutely laughable and if you believe that, you will literally believe anything. I know to some people they feel they have to defend anything Islamic, anything which you feel must align with your leftist views which isn't the same thing as liberal views. His story is bollocks, I'd stop believing it if I was you.

dreamliner

If people remained on topic it would be a lot easier to sift through the mumble jumble. What have 'lefties' got to do with Ibrahim's interview in Cork?

Rather this 'liberal lefty snowflake' rhetoric epitomises everything about the people here that are attempting to find lies and deceit when there is no evidence.

If he was guilty, you can bet your bottom dollar the Egyptians would have seen to it that he was taken to the cleaners. If even they found no fault, when it was all on their land in front of them ... what does Paddy in Mayo know that the judges in charge of the case didn't know?

Again, you are more than welcome to go and talk to him after one of his events, you can ask HIM directly. Staying up on boards till all hours attempting to solve a non existent mystery won't solve a thing.

JP Liz V1

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I'd swear I saw that very episode of MacGyver!!!

Or Burn Notice

Hitman3000

Can anyone provide an answer was he shot or was this another lie from his sisters?

deco nate

dreamliner wrote: »

If people remained on topic it would be a lot easier to sift through the mumble jumbo. What have 'lefties' got to do with Ibrahim's interview in Cork?

Rather this 'liberal lefty snowflake' rhetoric epitomises everything about the people here that are attempting to find lies and deceit when there is no evidence.

If he was guilty, you can bet your bottom dollar the Egyptians would have seen to it that he was taken to the cleaners. If even they found no fault, when it was all on their land in front of them ... what does Paddy in Mayo know that the judges in charge of the case didn't know?

Again, you are more than welcome to go and talk to him after one of his events, you can ask HIM directly. Staying up on boards till all hours attempting to solve a non existent mystery won't solve a thing.

The only mumbo jumbo is coming from you trying hard to shut down this topic.

I really hope it doesn't happen.

dreamliner

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Can anyone provide an answer was he shot or was this another lie from his sisters?

I'd be careful about using 'another' lie, I'm not sure it's legal to accuse someone of a string of lies with no evidence.

He was shot anyway for sure.

deco nate

dreamliner wrote: »

I'd be careful about using 'another' lie, I'm not sure it's legal to accuse someone of a string of lies with no evidence.

He was shot anyway for sure.

Proof please.

deco nate

dreamliner wrote: »

I'd be careful about using 'another' lie, I'm not sure it's legal to accuse someone of a string of lies with no evidence.

He was shot anyway for sure.

And now you are a solicitor?

dreamliner

deco nate wrote: »

dreamliner wrote: »

I'd be careful about using 'another' lie, I'm not sure it's legal to accuse someone of a string of lies with no evidence.

He was shot anyway for sure.

Proof please.

Ok send me your address and I'll post you the bullet ...

What on earth do people want

JP Liz V1

Expert Plumber wrote: »

He needs to write a book. He missed out on this Christmas.

He should do an AMA on here

deco nate

dreamliner wrote: »

Ok send me your address and I'll post you the bullet ...

What on earth do people want

Don't start.

PeterParker957

dreamliner wrote: »

deco nate wrote: »

dreamliner wrote: »

I'd be careful about using 'another' lie, I'm not sure it's legal to accuse someone of a string of lies with no evidence.

He was shot anyway for sure.

Proof please.

Ok send me your address and I'll post you the bullet ...

What on earth do people want

Him to stop lying and treating the Irish people like idiots.

Omackeral

dreamliner wrote: »

people here that are attempting to find lies and deceit when there is no evidence.

Except for, you know, the evidence of the whole hand thing being a lie posted here.

Omackeral

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

He should do an AMA on here

Can you actually imagine?

dreamliner

Really and truly all that needs to be said has been said.

The whole nation have forgotten him except for a few people here with a major axe to grind. I really see no point in this discussion, but carry on, it's just not gonna achieve anything. It's actually old news at this stage and he has moved on and is focussing on his new lease of life. The only ones getting wound up are to be found on here. No one else cares anymore ... it is yesterday's news.

dreamliner

Omackeral wrote: »

dreamliner wrote: »

people here that are attempting to find lies and deceit when there is no evidence.

Except for, you know, the evidence of the whole hand thing being a lie posted here.

The lad was shot. I don't think not being shot would have reduced the priority of his case in the eyes of the government. And I doubt the government are stupid to accept a blind lie.

He was shot and it did happen, that's all ye need to know.

Hitman3000

dreamliner wrote:

I'd be careful about using 'another' lie, I'm not sure it's legal to accuse someone of a string of lies with no evidence.

Perfectly legal to accuse someone of being a liar when they have lied. So anyway was he shot yes or no?

PeterParker957

dreamliner wrote: »

Really and truly all that needs to be said has been said.

The whole nation have forgotten him except for a few people here with a major axe to grind. I really see no point in this discussion, but carry on, it's just not gonna achieve anything. It's actually old news at this stage and he has moved on and is focussing on his new leaf of life. The only ones getting wound up are to be found on here. No one else cares anymore ... it is yesterday's news.

I really do respect you standing up for your school friend but the discussion is not over

Questions remain unanswered, obvious lies are not addressed and the more he remains a public figure we, as the public, have every right to discuss him like any other public figure.