moving cattle using agfood

50HX

applying to move some cattle from my farm to a neighbour for feeding only and bring them back in march

in the rule details it asks for feedlot or holding, i assume feedlot is wht i select

it then asks for movement from feedlot yes/no...any1 know what this is or whati should select

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50HX wrote: »

applying to move some cattle from my farm to a neighbour for feeding only and bring them back in march

in the rule details it asks for feedlot or holding, i assume feedlot is wht i select

it then asks for movement from feedlot yes/no...any1 know what this is or whati should select

I always understood the option foř feedlot was if the herd they were moving into had feedlot status (only one way out/can buy from uncleen herd etc) and all other normal herds were consider holdings

I am not an expert on this issue

Lady Haywire

Feedlots are different to normal herd numbers as the animals can only go to the factory out of it. So you'd be looking more for B&B movement which I think is just farm to farm (holding) on CMMS.
This is the one showing up on the Dept site (it'll download if you click so maybe wait unless you're at a laptop)

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/animalhealthwelfare/animalidentificationandmovement/cattlemovementmonitoringsystem/NBAS31B200117.doc

50HX

makes sense

holding is now farm-farm, counts as a permenant movement then

Lady Haywire

50HX wrote: »

makes sense

holding is now farm-farm, counts as a permenant movement then

AFAIK if you do go the B&B route over the holding to holding, it means that you remain the owner or keeper of the stock. Whereas if you do the full holding transfer it will appear that your neighbour is the full owner for the period of time that they're in his number. Either way it still shows up as a movement but you get a bit of added security with the B&B permit.

50HX

Thanks LH

how do i do a b&b movement then on agfood.......i'd confuse a nation:D

Lady Haywire

50HX wrote: »

Thanks LH

how do i do a b&b movement then on agfood.......i'd confuse a nation:D

I don't know if you can......with the archaic IT system the dept has it's surprising we can even do movements online at all. That link above is the form that you can send in the post though.

Base price

In a B&B scenario - As far as I know both herds have to apply to their local/respective DVO's to be approved prior to any movement of stock.

50HX

rang the dvo on this

select move to feedlot

select option no in the movement from feedlot yes/no section below this

Pidae.m

50HX wrote: »

applying to move some cattle from my farm to a neighbour for feeding only and bring them back in march

in the rule details it asks for feedlot or holding, i assume feedlot is wht i select

it then asks for movement from feedlot yes/no...any1 know what this is or whati should select

We put cattle into a b&b in the summer,(stud farm) our dept vet said just transfer them normally & transfer them back when your finished. It’s easier & less messy than applying for b&b.

Don’t choose thefeedlot option I’m 99% that’s wrong.

50HX

Pidae.m wrote: »

We put cattle into a b&b in the summer,(stud farm) our dept vet said just transfer them normally & transfer them back when your finished. It’s easier & less messy than applying for b&b.

Don’t choose thefeedlot option I’m 99% that’s wrong.

how do you tally your cattle movements then at the end of the year for tax if they go down as permenant movements

Water John

Are you not adding 2 movements on the cattle ID if you don't use B & B?