Fingal councillor opposes flying Irish tricolour above county hall

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Fingal councillor opposes flying Irish tricolour above county hall, saying it could offend foreign nationals

Solidarity-People Before Profits Cllr Matthew Waine has suggested not flying the flag but suggested flying the red flag of Marxism & socialism instead

Firstly I'm sorry, if you come to Ireland & you feel offended by our national flag then feel free to leave, we should not make the same mistakes as the UK & its usually not even the foreign nationals complaining but some idiot like this Cllr

Secondly why the hell would we fly a flag of an ideology that killed more people than the Nazi's? Why not go the whole hog & stick the ISIS flag up there

What do people think of this?

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/fingal-councillor-opposes-flying-irish-13946267?ICID=FB_DublinLive_Main

lukesmom

I think its bloody ridiculous. You come to IRELAND, you will see our IRISH flag. End of story and if you don't like it, p!ss off back to your own country.

whiskeyman

Waines World!
Waines World!
Marxist Party time!
Excellent!

Help!!!!

lukesmom wrote: »

I think its bloody ridiculous. You come to IRELAND, you will see our IRISH flag. End of story and if you don't like it, p!ss off back to your own country.

I think its more to do with his own agenda than to do with foreign nationals. We cant keep making the same mistakes as the UK has made. They are fcuked because of all this crap

enricoh

Read it earlier, if it was closer to April I'd have thought it was an aprils fool joke! Clown.

Help!!!!

whiskeyman wrote: »

Waines World!
Waines World!
Marxist Party time!
Excellent!

Do people actually vote for the guy?

Peregrine

lukesmom wrote: »

I think its bloody ridiculous. You come to IRELAND, you will see our IRISH flag. End of story and if you don't like it, p!ss off back to your own country.

I've never met a foreigner offended by the Irish flag. Who are you shouting at? Calm down for **** sake.

Some gob****e councillor talks ****e (probably just to put his flag up there instead) and it's still the foreigners that get the abuse.

Skylinehead

lukesmom wrote: »

I think its bloody ridiculous. You come to IRELAND, you will see our IRISH flag. End of story and if you don't like it, p!ss off back to your own country.

Mod: Calm down, jaysis

corner of hells

Skylinehead wrote: »

lukesmom wrote: »

I think its bloody ridiculous. You come to IRELAND, you will see our IRISH flag. End of story and if you don't like it, p!ss off back to your own country.

Mod: Calm down, jaysis

Now jaysis is brought into it , can we not have religion just once in an argument.

Help!!!!

What would be the difference between flying the red flag & the Nazi flag? Both have killed millions but for some reason the red flag gets a pass

Richard Hillman

Peregrine wrote: »

I've never met a foreigner offended by the Irish flag. Who are you shouting at? Calm down for **** sake.

Some gob****e councillor talks ****e (probably just to put his flag up there instead) and it's still the foreigners that get the abuse.

People come and stay in Ireland because they like Ireland. These AAA-PBP folks are just trying to divide us.

Jim Bob Scratcher

What a bellend

Collie D

I think every council in Ireland must have one gob****e councillor that makes the news at some point with a mad statement - probably for the purpose of making the news.

Apart from Kerry...they send theirs to Leinster House.

Ken.

To paraphrase Charlton Heston, You'll have to pry my flag from my cold dead hands.

corner of hells

If we're arguing about flags , should they not be called "flegs" ?

s3rtvdbwfj81ch

Help!!!! wrote: »

What would be the difference between flying the red flag & the Nazi flag? Both have killed millions but for some reason the red flag gets a pass

No true scotsman.

Your Face

I think a lot of these socialist/workers groups put potential voters off with these types of stunts.

For Forks Sake

Help!!!! wrote: »

Do people actually vote for the guy?

He actually only got 435 votes in the last local election and failed to be elected.

He was co-opted onto the council as Ruth Coppingers replacement (why am I not surprised) when she got elected to the Dail

s3rtvdbwfj81ch

he's an absolute idiot - wanting to fly the flag that many of the immigrants would ACTUALLY find intimidating, having lived and suffered under it for decades.

These champagne socialists are a stain on actual socialist ideas.

Little children playing at politics.

Who votes for these imbeciles?

flaneur

That’s absolutely ridiculous.
The Irish flag has, thankfully, not been hijacked as a symbol of right wing extremist or ultra nationalists. It's a positive, open, friendly, symbol of Ireland.

It's also a symbol of a republic that defines citizenship in the modern sense and not by some blood right. If you're Irish, be it by birth, or by naturalisation, you’re Irish and that flag represents all of us who have an attachment to this wind swept, rainy island in the North Atlantic!

Even the symbolism behind it is about peace between green and orange.

The very suggestion that the flag is offensive to minorities is weirdly trying to paint it as being somehow a symbol oppression or ultra nationalism. It absolutely is not and I'm offended by the suggestion!

It's an utterly ridiculous suggestion.

As for flying the red flag. Why?
It's not representative of Ireland or the council he stands for! It's not less ridiculous that someone suggesting the council fly the US flag or the British flag.

Absolute, complete and utter nonsense!

Help!!!!

corner of hells wrote: »

If we're arguing about flags , should they not be called "flegs" ?

You may need to ask Sheldon

For Forks Sake

corner of hells wrote: »

If we're arguing about flags , should they not be called "flegs" ?

Flegs is for them above in nordieland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8JqKxrloQQ

corner of hells

flaneur wrote: »

That’s absolutely ridiculous.
The Irish flag has, thankfully, not been hijacked as a symbol of right wing extremist or ultra nationalists. It's a positive, open, friendly, symbol of Ireland.

Even the symbolism behind it is about peace between green and orange.

Even suggesting that the flag is offensive to minorities is weirdly thing to paint it as being somehow a symbol opptrssion or ultra nationalism. It absolutely is not.

It's an utterly ridiculous suggestion.

As for flying the red flag. Why?
It's not representative of Ireland or the council he stands for! It's not less ridiculous that someone suggesting the council fly the US flag or the British flag.

Absolute, complete and utter nonsense!

It's "fleg".

flaneur

corner of hells wrote: »

It's "fleg".

Oh probably...

Rumpy Pumpy

Never trust a Trot.

Ulysses Gaze

Leroy Tasteless Arc wrote: »

he's an absolute idiot - wanting to fly the flag that many of the immigrants would ACTUALLY find intimidating, having lived and suffered under it for decades.

These champagne socialists are a stain on actual socialist ideas.

Little children playing at politics.

Who votes for these imbeciles?

He's nothing more than a Student Union Socialist who maybe spent a few weeks in sunny Cuba and thinks it's a bastion of prosperity.Without seeing the real poverty and real suffering of the people there

I have as much respect for these type of bellends as I do for bellends like Richard Spencer and his ilk on the Far Right.

None whatsoever.

The Hill Billy

As a proud Irishman & Fingallian I would respectfully suggest that the councillor refrain from assuming what may or may not offend foreigners, & shove his socialist flag where the sun don't shine. Gobsh1tery of the highest order!

PeterParker957

The Hill Billy wrote: »

As a proud Irishman & Fingallian I would respectfully suggest that the councillor refrain from assuming what may or may not offend foreigners, & shove his socialist flag where the sun don't shine. Gobsh1tery of the highest order!

+1

And the flagpole too!!! Well said sir!!

P_1

Our gombeen politicians seem to want an election soon. Brace yourselves for more similar idiocy from those who will surely stand but be unlikely to get within an asses roar of getting their deposit back.

Hector Bellend

This guy should be sterilised. Immediately.

uck51js9zml2yt

I'm not sure what's worse. It being proposed or its acceptance by 34 gombeens.

minidazzler

Nataly Fat Maple wrote: »

I'm not sure what's worse. It being proposed or its acceptance by 34 gombeens.

He was one of the 2 to vote against the motion - Thankfully the 34 were the ones with a small bit of sense !

uck51js9zml2yt

minidazzler wrote: »

He was one of the 2 to vote against the motion - Thankfully the 34 were the ones with a small bit of sense !

Had a feeling I read it wrong;)

Oldtree

He is quoted as saying

doesn’t see the country of your birth as being anything significant.

Maby he needs some time in an Egyptian prison to appreciate the point.

K.Flyer

Thank god common sense prevailed.
I think the Irish Flag needs to be flown with pride from each and every government or council building around the country. And anyone who takes offence to it can just fcuk right off.

The Legend Of Kira

Matt Waine sure is a fellow who can,t take criticism as evidenced by all the critical comments he deleted from people on his public facebook page in recent days .

diomed

My guess if foreign nationals would be alarmed to see the red flag of Marxism flown in Fingal.
Some had real experience of socialism, unlike that fool.

Ulysses Gaze

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

Matt Waine sure is a fellow who can,t take criticism as evidenced by all the critical comments he deleted from people on his public facebook page in recent days .

I'm sure in his idealised Socialist Utopia he'd have all those negatively posting about him sent to Labour Camps or Gulags for punishment.

Annasopra

Help!!!! wrote: »

What would be the difference between flying the red flag & the Nazi flag? Both have killed millions but for some reason the red flag gets a pass

I didnt know flags actually killed people

Omackeral

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I didnt know flags actually killed people

Remember this gobsh*te drowning a couple of years ago trying to remove an Irish tricolour on a lake island?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/man-drowns-trying-to-remove-irish-flag-from-armagh-island-1.1881470%3fmode=amp

Annasopra

Omackeral wrote: »

Remember this gobsh*te drowning a couple of years ago trying to remove an Irish tricolour on a lake island?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/man-drowns-trying-to-remove-irish-flag-from-armagh-island-1.1881470%3fmode=amp

Was he killed by the flag?

arayess

Your Face wrote: »

I think a lot of these socialist/workers groups put potential voters off with these types of stunts.

they cant help themselves
I went on several water protest marches and the socialists were there . The day was about water but they were trying to canvas new members (ok) , trying to get people to sign a petition against racism (not the day for it) , and then collecting money for their party - I think this was pre AAA (not on)

I saw a family beside me being badgered for a donation to the party because the kid asked the socialist gang at the side of the road for a banner to wave about..the kid was about 5.
It was cringe stuff....

their unwavering belief in dogma mean they can't do politics and they also can't focus on the task at hand.,

Wheeliebin30

Ahhh, life under the left wing of sinn fein, aaa, pbp, Palestinian flags, blah blah.

Ulysses Gaze

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Ahhh, life under the left wing of sinn fein, aaa, pbp, Palestinian flags, blah blah.

It'd make what happened in Venezuela look like a picnic.

suicide_circus

I'd invite the councillor to go and try get elected in one of the countries currently practising forms of Maxism;

China
Vietnam
Laos
Cuba
North Korea
Venezuela

Ulysses Gaze

suicide_circus wrote: »

I'd invite the councillor to go and try get elected live in one of the countries currently practising forms of Maxism;

China
Vietnam
Laos
Cuba
North Korea
Venezuela

FYP

Help!!!!

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I didnt know flags actually killed people

Its a new phenomenon in the USA, why do you think they started burning them:D

Help!!!!

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Ahhh, life under the left wing of sinn fein, aaa, pbp, Palestinian flags, blah blah.

What is the fascination with the Palestinian flag? I dont get it

A Little Pony

flaneur wrote: »

That’s absolutely ridiculous.
The Irish flag has, thankfully, not been hijacked as a symbol of right wing extremist or ultra nationalists. It's a positive, open, friendly, symbol of Ireland.

It's also a symbol of a republic that defines citizenship in the modern sense and not by some blood right. If you're Irish, be it by birth, or by naturalisation, you’re Irish and that flag represents all of us who have an attachment to this wind swept, rainy island in the North Atlantic!

Even the symbolism behind it is about peace between green and orange.

The very suggestion that the flag is offensive to minorities is weirdly trying to paint it as being somehow a symbol oppression or ultra nationalism. It absolutely is not and I'm offended by the suggestion!

It's an utterly ridiculous suggestion.

As for flying the red flag. Why?
It's not representative of Ireland or the council he stands for! It's not less ridiculous that someone suggesting the council fly the US flag or the British flag.

Absolute, complete and utter nonsense!

You must never have visited Ulster then.

Odhinn

Help!!!! wrote: »

Fingal councillor opposes flying Irish tricolour above county hall, saying it could offend foreign nationals

Solidarity-People Before Profits Cllr Matthew Waine has suggested not flying the flag but suggested flying the red flag of Marxism & socialism instead

Firstly I'm sorry, if you come to Ireland & you feel offended by our national flag then feel free to leave, we should not make the same mistakes as the UK & its usually not even the foreign nationals complaining but some idiot like this Cllr

Secondly why the hell would we fly a flag of an ideology that killed more people than the Nazi's? Why not go the whole hog & stick the ISIS flag up there

What do people think of this?

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/fingal-councillor-opposes-flying-irish-13946267?ICID=FB_DublinLive_Main

No foriegn people seem to have been involved thus far.

As for the red flag, I can't imagine too many from eastern and central Europe being overly assured by the sight of it.

Atoms for Peace

The left really have jumped the shark with this one, Leo is diffinetly bot going anywhere soon.