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Once great brands ...... now junk.

  • 28-11-2017 3:17am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,042 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Reading the Black Friday thread, and Polaroid was mentioned, got me thinking about some of the old names of my youth who were once innovative brands.

    Back in the day, Blaupunkt was a brand you always fancied owning.
    Or Alpine car stereos.

    I know now that many famous brands have sold their rights to be used by other companies, so you buy a Hitachi, JVC, Sharp TV now at your peril.


    Any others spring to mind?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Mitsubishi Black Diamond,used to be great until they were sold off to some Turkish company (Vestel I think)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Sanyo was once a good quality brand name. Not sure if I can even say their new products are bad as they have pretty much disappeared over here.


  • Posts: 18,962 [Deleted User]


    Fianna Fail


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    I remember back when the only Samsung you'd see was a microwave oven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Crosby Wailing Haircut


    Liverpool Fc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,042 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    glasso wrote: »
    Fianna Fail

    We have a winner.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Back in the day, we had a Pye telly. And a Ferguson. (Not the tractor).

    Kodak would probably be the sort of brand in this category.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,042 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    If I was to buy a TV now, I wouldn't think about any manufacturer that isn't in this list:

    Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, LG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Lucozade!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Russell and Joe.

    Not sure if they were ever great though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Any brand that Sports Direct have got their paws on.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭jrmb


    Kodak would probably be the sort of brand in this category.
    Polaroid, Kodak, Memorex, Praktica, Maxell


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    The Catholic Church


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Thought this said bands, not brands. I was slightly confused reading the replies for a few seconds.

    Anyway, probably all of them. Things don't seem to last the way they used to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭ambasite


    Tommy Tiernan


  • Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭SpatialPlanning


    Tommy Hilfiger. Used to do really high quality, durable clothes. I had jumpers that lasted years. Now the stuff is pure crap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭SuperS54


    Philips, used to be a good brand, moved pretty much everything to China and outsourcing and are peddling tat these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Greybottle


    Nokia.

    Still around, but still make excellent phones, but are nowhere near as prominent as a few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭magentis


    NIMAN wrote: »
    If I was to buy a TV now, I wouldn't think about any manufacturer that isn't in this list:

    Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, LG.

    Even some of the lower end Panasonic's are made by vestel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    Sketchers. Their shoes only last a few months


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,337 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Cadburys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Its called 'profit maximisation', get over it, it's good for us, apparently!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Mercedes Benz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Hoover


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Reading the Black Friday thread, and Polaroid was mentioned, got me thinking about some of the old names of my youth who were once innovative brands.

    Back in the day, Blaupunkt was a brand you always fancied owning.
    Or Alpine car stereos.

    I know now that many famous brands have sold their rights to be used by other companies, so you buy a Hitachi, JVC, Sharp TV now at your peril.


    Any others spring to mind?

    Alpine are still a top brand in car audio and are not junk. Blaupunkt was always an overrated brand which had very poor quality head units, especially towards the end of the 90's, unreliable and terrible sound quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    Nordmende and Telefunken


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,450 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    One that still successful but makes products that just don't last as well as their competitors is Gillette. In fact they probably dominate their market place but man those razors are bad.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    As with the many other once great brands toshiba tvs are also now made by vestel. Before I think some of the higher end models were a toshiba design with the lower end stuff being made by vestel for years. I think all European toshibas are made by vestel nowadays.


  • Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭md23040


    The irony of the name - Quality Street.

    Really cheap choclate that's excessively sweet. Pure muck.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭md23040


    The irony of the name - Quality Street.

    Really cheap choclate that's excessively sweet. Pure muck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Panaphonics and Sorny, they've really dropped off the map.


  • Registered Users Posts: 962 ✭✭✭James 007


    Dell, Gateway 2000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Greybottle wrote: »
    Nokia.

    Still around, but still make excellent phones, but are nowhere near as prominent as a few years ago.

    This...

    What a fall from grace.

    3210 and 3310 were amazing phones.

    And not only did they have great phones, they had a patent on the "Nokia Charger" which basically charged conceivable device..... And then the went and changed it/made it obsolete! biggest mistake ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Sony is a good brand and is far from junk but imo it's not the last word in quality as it once was. Anyone remember the trinitron flat screen tv's? They were pure quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭greenttc


    Back in the day, we had a Pye telly. And a Ferguson. (Not the tractor).

    Kodak would probably be the sort of brand in this category.

    Your pye telly would have been made in dundrum where the shopping centre now stands!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Mercedes Benz.

    You can close the thread now, Merc's are gone to fook :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Oracle Database.... 12.1.0.2 in particular....

    Greatest heap of SH*TE!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭no.8


    Sketchers. Their shoes only last a few months



    Have owned 2 different models (casual shoe and runners). I'm not one for selecting one brand over another but tbh I didn't have any problems with them. V comfortable. Not the hardest wearing but certainly well above average to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    In a lot of cases, certainly with the electrical and electronics brands, it's just some modern day cheapo company cashing in on some long-since-closed-down company's brand legacy.

    For example, The Hoover Company hasn't existed since 1995. You're actually buying products from Candy in Europe or Techtronic (China) in the US.

    A lot of the other whitegoods brands that are out there are made by a Turkish company called Arçelik (yes that's really its name). It's a division of Koç Holding (which is pronounced Coach...) and known usually as BEKO in Ireland, the UK and much of Europe .... for obvious reasons.

    In case you think I'm making those names up:

    https://www.arcelik.com.tr/default.aspx?lang=en-US https://www.koc.com.tr/en-us/

    Some of them are just store brands / local relabelers who own an old legacy brand, sometimes they're owned outright by Arçelik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    As RobaMerc posted, Nordmende was once a top class brand. And you can add Ferguson and Bush to the list of once respected audio makers.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭Ciaran_B


    md23040 wrote: »
    The irony of the name - Quality Street.

    Really cheap choclate that's excessively sweet. Pure muck.

    So much chocolate like this now. Most Cadbury is barely edible, Roses especially.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    The Nordmende brand is owned by KAL Kitchens in Ireland and sources appliances from various companies.

    It's a weird one, as it's owned by Technicolor (Thomson SA) everywhere else, although I'm not aware of them still using it.

    Also, Nordmende was a high end audio/visual/radio brand originally, it didn't make domestic appliances.

    Bush is a trademark of Sainsbury's / Argos group now and used as an own brand.

    Ferguson seems to be used by Thomson SA in some markets, but they've totally moved away from making appliances and are far more focused on their core businesses around IP and telecommunication stuff.

    You need to be careful to check behind brands before you actually buy. In a lot of cases you've people buying products that are nothing to do with the original companies at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Ciaran_B wrote: »
    So much chocolate like this now. Most Cadbury is barely edible, Roses especially.

    The incredibly shrinking box of Roses....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Levi's jeans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Levi's jeans.

    They're pretty much unchanged, they just went out of fashion.

    It's amazing how Levi's went from being the essence of cool to something your granddad might wear in a very short space of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Do Mitsubishi even make TV's now? The Black Diamond was THE set to have 20 years ago.
    And I remember when Texas Instruments on your calculator ment you had a prestigue brand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Do Mitsubishi even make TV's now? The Black Diamond was THE set to have 20 years ago.
    And I remember when Texas Instruments on your calculator ment you had a prestigue brand.

    Mitsubishi moved away from that kind of stuff in this market anyway quite some time ago. They're a huge conglomerate though and very much still in existence. They've just changed focus.

    Texas Instruments is still very much alive and well, they just no longer operate in the consumer space very much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    flaneur wrote: »
    They're pretty much unchanged, they just went out of fashion.

    It's amazing how Levi's went from being the essence of cool to something your granddad might wear in a very short space of time.

    No, the quality went to sh!te as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    No, the quality went to sh!te as well.

    Could have been one of those cases of over-marketing too like CK underpants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    The one that I really notice is Cadbury's. None of their products taste the same anymore and I just don't buy them, which is probably good for my health.

    The old foil wrapped Dairy Milk bars and cream eggs and all of those things used to actually taste reasonable quality. Now they just taste like absolute junk.


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