PSNI Recruitment 1710 Campaign

Banterbus28 · 24-03-2018 5:35pm

Homer01 wrote: »

Rossco22 wrote: »

Does anyone know what the familiarisation specifically entails? Is it a mock test were we go for it and see what time we get or do you just look at each station individually?

If you've never been before I HIGHLY recommend it.

They show you the actual course but you get to try the various obstacles. You can't do a timed lap as everyone is there trying bits out.

Plus getting to know the venue and layout will help the nerves on the big day

If you can go then do go.

Keys to the castle and all that lol.

Ash1008 · 24-03-2018 10:48pm

I assume everyone has seen the PCA on YouTube? It looks like if you're even reasonably fit and agile it wouldn't be a problem. I'd say only people with agility/mobility/weight issues would find it to be a stumbling block.

NiK9 · 24-03-2018 10:57pm

Ash1008 wrote: »

I assume everyone has seen the PCA on YouTube? It looks like if you're even reasonably fit and agile it wouldn't be a problem. I'd say only people with agility/mobility/weight issues would find it to be a stumbling block.

Don't forget though it's 3 laps. The video is one lap at 1.12, after 3 laps she would only have 16 seconds to spare. And that's with no mistakes and the person in video knows the course inside out.
Doesn't matter how fit someone is, there isn't a chance anyone is going to keep a consistent speed for all 3 laps. Everyone will slow after each lap.
Everyone will need to push themselves.

Robocop2k16 · 24-03-2018 11:13pm

If I am lucky enough to do it my tactic would be to go flat out like the flash in the straights, the crawl (right to the end of the mat to avoid that last pole) and the jump. Then take extra caution on the stairs and cone weave. I would not want to have to redo those...

Balance beam shouldnt be an issue. Bag drag likewise if I am looking at where to drop it each way.

Never done it before though and if I went to a familiarisation I might not think the same lol

NiK9 · 24-03-2018 11:23pm

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

If I am lucky enough to do it my tactic would be to go flat out like the flash in the straights, the crawl (right to the end of the mat to avoid that last pole) and the jump. Then take extra caution on the stairs and cone weave. I would not want to have to redo those...

Balance beam shouldnt be an issue. Bag drag likewise if I am looking at where to drop it each way.

Never done it before though and if I went to a familiarisation I might not think the same lol

Bit I'm worrying about most is the steps and ducking under the poles. The rest is basic movements, but when in day to day life do you ever go up and down steps while bent over lol.

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 12:04am

NiK9 wrote: »

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

If I am lucky enough to do it my tactic would be to go flat out like the flash in the straights, the crawl (right to the end of the mat to avoid that last pole) and the jump. Then take extra caution on the stairs and cone weave. I would not want to have to redo those...

Balance beam shouldnt be an issue. Bag drag likewise if I am looking at where to drop it each way.

Never done it before though and if I went to a familiarisation I might not think the same lol

Bit I'm worrying about most is the steps and ducking under the poles. The rest is basic movements, but when in day to day life do you ever go up and down steps while bent over lol.

You're a lanky one aren't you? Lol

Adam West · 25-03-2018 12:10am

Something which I hope to instill in some people who are currently awaiting the PCA.

You shouldn't just be training for just the PCA.

Short term you should be training for the PCA.

Medium term you should be training for the training college.

Long term you should be training for being a constable.

Your approach to fitness training should be that one day your life may depend on how physically fit and capable you are. Especially in the role of a PSNI constable. Therefore you should train with that in mind. You may need to fight off a gang of people physically assaulting you or may need to run to the aid of a colleague. You should train with that in mind. Doing the bare minimum to pass the PCA isn't good enough.

Train as if your life depended on it. Because it very well might one day.

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 12:12am

NiK9 wrote: »

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

If I am lucky enough to do it my tactic would be to go flat out like the flash in the straights, the crawl (right to the end of the mat to avoid that last pole) and the jump. Then take extra caution on the stairs and cone weave. I would not want to have to redo those...

Balance beam shouldnt be an issue. Bag drag likewise if I am looking at where to drop it each way.

Never done it before though and if I went to a familiarisation I might not think the same lol

Bit I'm worrying about most is the steps and ducking under the poles. The rest is basic movements, but when in day to day life do you ever go up and down steps while bent over lol.

Yeah at 6ft I was never any good at limbo never mind with steps included lol gonna be tricky

NiK9 · 25-03-2018 12:13am

Adam West wrote: »

Something which I hope to instill in some people who are currently awaiting the PCA.

You shouldn't just be training for just the PCA.

Short term you should be training for the PCA.

Medium term you should be training for the training college.

Long term you should be training for being a constable.

Your approach to fitness training should be that one day your life may depend on how physically fit and capable you are. Especially in the role of a PSNI constable. Therefore you should train with that in mind. You may need to fight off a gang of people physically assaulting you or may need to run to the aid of a colleague. You should train with that in mind. Doing the bare minimum to pass the PCA isn't good enough.

Train as if your life depended on it. Because it very well might one day.

Couldn't agree with you more!!!

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 12:13am

Adam West wrote: »

Something which I hope to instill in some people who are currently awaiting the PCA.

You shouldn't just be training for just the PCA.

Short term you should be training for the PCA.

Medium term you should be training for the training college.

Long term you should be training for being a constable.

Your approach to fitness training should be that one day your life may depend on how physically fit and capable you are. Especially in the role of a PSNI constable. Therefore you should train with that in mind. You may need to fight off a gang of people physically assaulting you or may need to run to the aid of a colleague. You should train with that in mind. Doing the bare minimum to pass the PCA isn't good enough.

Train as if your life depended on it. Because it very well might one day.

Fitter you are the better you cope with the shift work. Plus you may be wearing a ballistic vest for 10-14 hrs a day...

Good fitness will help you be a peeler.

Good fitness also will hekp you keep going and keep focus when others are fading.

Adam West · 25-03-2018 12:15am

As well as that GV sounds like its gonna be a melter.

Physical fitness training is one aspect of GV so why not put in the work now in preparation of GV so its one less thing you have to worry about when you get there.

NiK9 · 25-03-2018 12:20am

Adam West wrote: »

As well as that GV sounds like its gonna be a melter.

Physical fitness training is one aspect of GV so why not put in the work now in preparation of GV so its one less thing you have to worry about when you get there.

The fitness at GV is one of the things im looking forward to most. Getting into a decent routine of mon-fri and training before or after classes. At the min I train as soon as I get up but that's only because my shifts are all over the place. E.g. i finish tomorrow for 3 days (That's alot for me in a row) but then I have 8x 12hour nightshifts in a row. Terrible for trying to have a decent training and eating routine.

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 12:23am

NiK9 wrote: »

Adam West wrote: »

As well as that GV sounds like its gonna be a melter.

Physical fitness training is one aspect of GV so why not put in the work now in preparation of GV so its one less thing you have to worry about when you get there.

The fitness at GV is one of the things im looking forward to most. Getting into a decent routine of mon-fri and training before or after classes. At the min I train as soon as I get up but that's only because my shifts are all over the place. E.g. i finish tomorrow for 3 days (That's alot for me in a row) but then I have 8x 12hour nightshifts in a row. Terrible for trying to have a decent training and eating routine.

Mate that’s horrendous. You get your arse around that bloody obstacle course.

Adam West · 25-03-2018 12:23am

NiK9 wrote: »

The fitness at GV is one of the things im looking forward to most. Getting into a decent routine of mon-fri and training before or after classes. At the min I train as soon as I get up but that's only because my shifts are all over the place. E.g. i finish tomorrow for 3 days (That's alot for me in a row) but then I have 8x 12hour nightshifts in a row. Terrible for trying to have a decent training and eating routine.

I get that. Its tough. I have a fairly regular work schedule and its tough to come home from work where I'm tired, then try motivate myself to go for a run. Its hardgoing. One thing I have done which is a bit of craic is to do a 5k run then for the last 200m pretend I'm chasing a suspect. You'd be surprised how fast you can move, even at the end of a run when you give yourself a bit of motivation like that, gets the adrenaline going.

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 12:25am

Nah just race your dog...

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 12:26am

rekcuF wrote: »

Disband the RUC now they've had their fúckin' day!

Cool story bro.

majgreen · 25-03-2018 12:30am

Guys, the PCA is incredibly straightforward, so long as you stop over complicating things in your head. Take obsticles one at a time and dont be worrying about the next one until you get to it. Quite frankly, you can complete the PCA at a very brisk pace. The first time i did it, i went hell for leather and by the third lap I had blurry vision, couldnt control my breathing and was about to puke. I went too fast too quick and nearly burnt out. Every time i did it after this, i got quicker and quicker. During probation I completed it twice again, and once again was faster than the last time. My final PCA was 3:00 and I didnt even break a sweat. During the last 2.5 years I have done literally ZERO fitness. I've eaten absolute crap cause, lets face it, takeaways are easier to munch on shift. You dont need to be SUPER fit to pass, you just need to be calm and collected. I've seen guys weighing near 15-20 stone (not the good kind of heavy either!) beat their PCA on numerous occaisions. My advice is this; take it calm, focus, concentrate. Dont go too quick at the start, the PTI's will tell you if you're not going quick enough. Make sure you've had breakfast, make sure you warm up. Dont overcomplicate and dont think too far ahead. Its easily achievable.

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 12:30am

About 17 years late to the party.

GV2018 · 25-03-2018 1:59pm

The fitness once you're in GV really isn't that difficult, you don't get all that many sessions with the PTIs unless you actually book them. The onus is more on yourself which can be good or bad.

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 2:05pm

Use exercise to relive the exam stress. Worked for me at uni.

Two birds one stone.

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 2:05pm

GV2018 wrote: »

The fitness once you're in GV really isn't that difficult, you don't get all that many sessions with the PTIs unless you actually book them. The onus is more on yourself which can be good or bad.

GV2018 were there any serving officers from the mainland in your squad or any others you may be aware of? If so what was the circumstances surrounding keeping their salary.

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 2:43pm

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

GV2018 wrote: »

The fitness once you're in GV really isn't that difficult, you don't get all that many sessions with the PTIs unless you actually book them. The onus is more on yourself which can be good or bad.

GV2018 were there any serving officers from the mainland in your squad or any others you may be aware of? If so what was the circumstances surrounding keeping their salary.

As long as there is no break in service i think you should keep your current scale or the closest PSNI scale. (PSNI have had no pay award as of late)

I think this is a question for HR. Just ring 101 and ask.

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 2:50pm

They may try and say that when thr time comes it will be considered on it's individual merits. But if you explain that this is your life and you need some kind of guidance as to what to expect then they should be sympathetic.

"What is the usual practice"...

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 3:49pm

Banterbus28 wrote: »

They may try and say that when thr time comes it will be considered on it's individual merits. But if you explain that this is your life and you need some kind of guidance as to what to expect then they should be sympathetic.

"What is the usual practice"...

Yeah gonna give them a call and see what the craic is. Don’t fancy cutting from £30k to 19

GV2018 · 25-03-2018 3:52pm

No one in your boat that I'm aware of mate sorry

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 3:55pm

GV2018 wrote: »

No one in your boat that I'm aware of mate sorry

No problem bud thanks for getting back to me.

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 4:19pm

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

Banterbus28 wrote: »

They may try and say that when thr time comes it will be considered on it's individual merits. But if you explain that this is your life and you need some kind of guidance as to what to expect then they should be sympathetic.

"What is the usual practice"...

Yeah gonna give them a call and see what the craic is. Don’t fancy cutting from £30k to 19

You are forgetting NITA

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 4:23pm

£3195 tax free paid monthly danger money. "NI Transitional Allowance"

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 4:25pm

Yeah it's a nice little boost. Although, call me greedy I want to keep my current + NITA

Homer01 · 25-03-2018 5:01pm

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

GV2018 were there any serving officers from the mainland in your squad or any others you may be aware of? If so what was the circumstances surrounding keeping their salary.

You should be able to keep it. Obviously you'll not get the increments that others do as you're already there.

NiK9 · 25-03-2018 5:06pm

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

Yeah it's a nice little boost. Although, call me greedy I want to keep my current + NITA

If you don't mind me asking what's the main reason you want to leave your current force and go to PSNI? Are you from here origionally?

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 5:07pm

Homer01 wrote: »

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

GV2018 were there any serving officers from the mainland in your squad or any others you may be aware of? If so what was the circumstances surrounding keeping their salary.

You should be able to keep it. Obviously you'll not get the increments that others do as you're already there.

Happy days, puts my mind at ease a little thanks!

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 5:24pm

NiK9 wrote: »

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

Yeah it's a nice little boost. Although, call me greedy I want to keep my current + NITA

If you don't mind me asking what's the main reason you want to leave your current force and go to PSNI? Are you from here origionally?

No problem at all. Yes I’m from NI and applied in 1405 but was knocked out at IST. Then that campaign froze and I thought to hell with it and applied to police Scotland, made the move over when I was successful.

One of the main reasons for me is that it is a lot more expensive over here. That and, if I am honest, the PSNI is such a unique force with some of the best intel and survellience units in the world. NI is the most challenging operational policing environment in the uk and for me that is where I want to be.

Homer01 · 25-03-2018 5:48pm

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

No problem at all. Yes I’m from NI and applied in 1405 but was knocked out at IST. Then that campaign froze and I thought to hell with it and applied to police Scotland, made the move over when I was successful.

One of the main reasons for me is that it is a lot more expensive over here. That and, if I am honest, the PSNI is such a unique force with some of the best intel and survellience units in the world. NI is the most challenging operational policing environment in the uk and for me that is where I want to be.

I know a few who have gone down a very similar path. Most looking back for the cost of living, home sick and of course PSNI are the best #upapeelers

Banterbus28 · 25-03-2018 6:11pm

280K for a house in the south east that would cost you 150K max here...

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 6:18pm

Yeah and as a PC you earn pretty much the same (slightly more in NI due to NITA) anywhere in the UK. So living in NI doing the job makes you much wealthier compared to here.

GV2018 · 25-03-2018 6:29pm

Robocop you don't by any chance have a brother in training at the minute do you?

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 6:31pm

GV2018 wrote: »

Robocop you don't by any chance have a brother in training at the minute do you?

No mate not me

majgreen · 25-03-2018 7:27pm

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

GV2018 wrote: »

The fitness once you're in GV really isn't that difficult, you don't get all that many sessions with the PTIs unless you actually book them. The onus is more on yourself which can be good or bad.

GV2018 were there any serving officers from the mainland in your squad or any others you may be aware of? If so what was the circumstances surrounding keeping their salary.

You keep your salary and get to skip probationary period depending on the length of your current service. Atleast that's what's happened with previous candidates in your position

Robocop2k16 · 25-03-2018 7:46pm

majgreen wrote: »

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

GV2018 wrote: »

The fitness once you're in GV really isn't that difficult, you don't get all that many sessions with the PTIs unless you actually book them. The onus is more on yourself which can be good or bad.

GV2018 were there any serving officers from the mainland in your squad or any others you may be aware of? If so what was the circumstances surrounding keeping their salary.

You keep your salary and get to skip probationary period depending on the length of your current service. Atleast that's what's happened with previous candidates in your position

That's what I was hoping thank you

Banterbus28 · 26-03-2018 9:33am

Juat to give thw guys waiting to hear that taste and to give those who have to waiti to next like us.

Serving officers and student officers what is your favourite part of GV and the job?

Least favourite part

And what do you find the most challenging?

Banterbus28 · 26-03-2018 9:34am

Wait to next time like me*

NiK9 · 26-03-2018 10:36am

PSNI wouldn't answer my FOI as I hadn't supplied a real/proper name. So made a name up and resubmitted lol.

jwhdkl5736 · 26-03-2018 1:13pm

I’m assuming no fast track emails today folks for those of you who have finished 1710 assessment centre?

mrlovalova22 · 26-03-2018 1:16pm

See just on the back of maxi's question, do we have a rough idea how many folk actually got "fast tracked"? Just to work out if it was enough for a full course to rolled into GV by May/June.

Robocop2k16 · 26-03-2018 1:35pm

mrlovalova22 wrote: »

See just on the back of maxi's question, do we have a rough idea how many folk actually got "fast tracked"? Just to work out if it was enough for a full course to rolled into GV by May/June.

Nik9 has just submiited a FOI request asking how many candidates were progressed forward. Won't know exact figures until that comes back.

What we know so far is that it is people who "performed to the highest standard", "psni will be contacting a limited number of candidates that this stage" and that it includes a handful of boardies.

Rookie23 · 26-03-2018 2:02pm

Maxi515 wrote: »

I’m assuming no fast track emails today folks for those of you who have finished 1710 assessment centre?

Do you think there will be more fast tracked or just the few they have in already?

Robocop2k16 · 27-03-2018 2:48pm

If there is and I don't get the email it will certainly affect my sanity. Might not make to the 4th ;D

mrlovalova22 · 27-03-2018 2:59pm

It is driving me mental how they marked the assessment day based on that alone, HOW LIKE F@#@ING HOW!!!! just put us all out of our misery AND TELL US!!!!!

Banterbus28 · 27-03-2018 3:03pm

mrlovalova22 wrote: »

It is driving me mental how they marked the assessment day based on that alone, HOW LIKE F@#@ING HOW!!!! just put us all out of our misery AND TELL US!!!!!

Obviously they had a threshold score for the expedited progression. Porbably based on the invigilator's score sheets. These score sheets would have been passed on to be officially recorded immediately to ensure integrity of the data.

The main body is still going through AC and so they won't release scores until all candidates are through

PSNI Recruitment 1710 Campaign

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