The Conor McGregor Thread

arybvtcw0eolkf

khaldrogo wrote: »

Russians are tough fcukers. Even an untrained one is dangerous. They are like travellers, they don't give up.

Some Russians are tough, only some. Just like most other nationalities.

Both Russians and Travelers give up, you're giving both too much respect based on nothing.

khaldrogo

ShowMeTheCash wrote:

Ignoring the russians are tough nonsense... This is the kind of things non trained fighters say.

How long have you been fighting for?

I competed in my youth. I know many Russians. None of them trained. Everyone of them would tear me apart. Its in them from birth to fight. Surrender is weak in their eyes. Surrender is survival in Conors eyes. If you think this inbred determination and an unwillingness to fold isn't going to stand to Khabib against the inflated ego that is Conor then you don't know what you're talking about.

I am a fan of the Conor of 4/5 years ago. I still am a fan of the athlete, not so much the man. I want to see him return to how he was but 160 million would change the best of us.

Khabib by sub or GnP in the third.

khaldrogo

Teresa Long Droplet wrote:

Both Russians and Travelers give up, you're giving both too much respect based on nothing.

Everyone gives up eventually but Conor won't be the man to make Khabib give up.

Teresa Long Droplet wrote:

Some Russians are tough, only some. Just like most other nationalities.

OK buy I personally know or have known over the years maybe 30 proper Russians or Lithuania Russians, I would not fancy my chances against any of them. I have some training and a size advantage over most of them.

Just my opinion people. We'll see in a few months.

Outlaw Pete

The greatest MMA fighter of all time is a Russian. The Siberian Express!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzJDU3n1yU

Hammer89

If McGregor wins this I think he has to be Ireland's greatest ever athlete, if he isn't already. I don't like him - actually I might hate him - but it's very hard to knock him if he musters the motivation to beat this Russian bloke.

arybvtcw0eolkf

khaldrogo wrote: »

OK buy I personally know or have known over the years maybe 30 proper Russians or Lithuania Russians, I would not fancy my chances against any of them. I have some training and a size advantage over most of them.

Just my opinion people.

I don't know what any of that even means.

What's a ''proper Russian or Lithuania Russians''?.

You're not making a whole lot of sense.

As regards this upcoming fight, I'll be honest with you. I don't follow the UFC, no interest in it what so ever.

arybvtcw0eolkf

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Ignoring the russians are tough nonsense... This is the kind of things non trained fighters say..

^^^ This lad is right.

khaldrogo wrote: »

How long have you been fighting for?

I competed in my youth. I know many Russians. None of them trained. Everyone of them would tear me apart. Its in them from birth to fight. .

Rubbish. You're talking rubbish.

khaldrogo

Teresa Long Droplet wrote:

I don't know what any of that even means.

What's a ''proper Russian or Lithuania Russians''?.

You're not making a whole lot of sense.

Of course it doesn't make sense to you.......you don't know what it means. One follows the other!

Teresa Long Droplet wrote:

As regards this upcoming fight, I'll be honest with you. I don't follow the UFC, no interest in it what so ever.

Great thread for you to be posting on so!!!

khaldrogo

Teresa Long Droplet wrote:

Rubbish. You're talking rubbish.

No I'm not.

arybvtcw0eolkf

khaldrogo wrote: »

No I'm not.

You called a guy out with this;

How long have you been fighting for?

Then you went on to say you've competed in your youth, and that's it.

I'll save you asking me, I'll tell you.

I'm fighting over thirty years, I'm 52 and still competing in Judo and coaching both Judo and BJJ.

I'm also coaching, and coaching these 'proper Russian' that you're talking about. And take it from someone who know's, they're no better to anyone else.

Why am I in a thread about a promotion I don't follow ~ if you were around here when we were trying to promote Irish MMA (including CmcG's early years), when we couldn't put bums on sits for €15 to see CmcG and other's fight in scabby little GAA clubs you'd know that I'm an acquaintance of his (not a friend) and just about everyone else who was involved in the early years of MMA in Ireland. So when I see his name in a thread I'm curious.

So don't go calling someone out because you competed when you were younger. You know what almost every guy who walks into a club says to me? "ya I used to box when I was a kid" (or TKD etc). Just about everyone has toyed around with the idea of participating in some form of combat sport, a few have walked into a club and probably about 1% have stayed the course. I include myself in that one percent.

I've also been a bouncer for over 25 years and in that time I've had tonnes of experience with these proper Russians & travelers, both professionally and as adversaries and trust me they're nothing special.

So ya, I think I'm qualified in telling you that you're talking rubbish when you talk about 'proper Russians and travelers and think they're something special, a breed apart. Because they're not.

In fact, and I won't go into detail on this. My experience of Russians and travelers has been overwhelmingly negative.

Enjoy the fight all the same. Personally I hope CmcG wins, its good for the country.

As Khabib is a Judo black belt, like myself (and we both wrestle too). I'll be interested in seeing how he works his take downs. Outside of that I don't really care that much for the lad, but I'll watch the fight all the same (I think they're usually online some hours after the event).

Enjoy.

Rory28

Makikomi by 1st round verbal beatdown. the ref should have stepped in sooner.

Pug160

Conor's achievements and talent are undeniable. But I just cannot really warm to someone who is as lowbrow as he is. I realise that a lot of combat athletes are going to be the rough and ready sorts by nature but Conor goes far beyond that and just has a general lack of class.

khaldrogo

Teresa Long Droplet wrote:

You called a guy out with this;

Who the fcuk did I call out exactly? Are all those digs to the head are starting to show?

I expressed an opinion, a poster refuted said opinion, I refuted their refution.

Its a forum. We are allowed have differing opinions without them being construed as trying to be confrontational.

A poster made an incorrect assumption about me and I corrected that assumption.

If I didn't know you used to be a mod I could have guessed it tbh......

Bored now. We'll see come fight time.

Greentopia

Low class thug who has made use of the one talent he has-physical violence, and thinks splashing around lots of dosh gives him class. Uh no. His whole family are an example of the worst excesses of tacky bling materialism and neauveau riche excess.

Prediction: all that money will end up in the casinos of Vegas, up his nose, and in the pockets of his lawyers, dodgy business associates and managers; those houses, cars and all the other shiny baubles sold off, and within 10 years he'll be back in Lucan fat and broke looking for plumbing jobs down the local Intreo centre. :pac:

Successful boxers/fighters aren't known for their savvy business skills coming from nothing to sudden riches...

khaldrogo

Greentopia wrote:

Prediction: all that money will end up in the casinos of Vegas, up his nose, and in the pockets of his lawyers, dodgy business associates and managers; those houses, cars and all the other shiny baubles sold off, and within 10 years he'll be back in Lucan fat and broke looking for plumbing jobs down the local Intreo centre.

Bitter much?

super_furry

Think Makikomi's beat-down there was far more interesting than the McGregor fight will be.

Think McGregor will need a first round or at the latest a second round KO if he's to win. Don't think he has it in him against Khabib but if he does, he might finally defend a title.

dundalkfc10

Greentopia wrote: »

Low class thug who has made use of the one talent he has-physical violence, and thinks splashing around lots of dosh gives him class. Uh no. His whole family are an example of the worst excesses of tacky bling materialism and neauveau riche excess.

Prediction: all that money will end up in the casinos of Vegas, up his nose, and in the pockets of his lawyers, dodgy business associates and managers; those houses, cars and all the other shiny baubles sold off, and within 10 years he'll be back in Lucan fat and broke looking for plumbing jobs down the local Intreo centre. :pac:

Successful boxers/fighters aren't known for their savvy business skills coming from nothing to sudden riches...

Never going too happen

Greentopia

khaldrogo wrote: »

Bitter much?

Hah no, just don't like the guy for the reasons I gave. That's allowed I think.

BattleCorp

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Never going too happen

I wonder how much money he actually has. I'd say it's much less than people think.

ohnonotgmail

BattleCorp wrote: »

I wonder how much money he actually has. I'd say it's much less than people think.

All those hangers-on cant be cheap.

Greentopia

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Never going too happen

Was only a joke, but I wouldn't bet money on it not to happen.

dundalkfc10

Greentopia wrote: »

Was only a joke, but I wouldn't bet money on it not to happen.

He is higher on the Forbes rich list than Ronaldo!

Doubt he will have any money worries for a while

Greentopia

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

He is higher on the Forbes rich list than Ronaldo!

Doubt he will have any money worries for a while

For a while. At the rate he's burning through it that may not be the case forever. And his career has a short shelf life.

sxt

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Ignoring the russians are tough nonsense... This is the kind of things non trained fighters say.

.

Russian lawyer VS pro Mma fighter. This lad had alot of cojones. Fighting a pro 11years younger. Watched by his wife and kid

https://youtu.be/pX3uMWkNE8s

khaldrogo

Greentopia wrote:

Hah no, just don't like the guy for the reasons I gave. That's allowed I think.

Not according to some on here.......

khaldrogo

Greentopia wrote:

For a while. At the rate he's burning through it that may not be the case forever. And his career has a short shelf life.

How much is a 45ft container of cocaine anyway?

Ush1

super_furry wrote: »

Think Makikomi's beat-down there was far more interesting than the McGregor fight will be.

Think McGregor will need a first round or at the latest a second round KO if he's to win. Don't think he has it in him against Khabib but if he does, he might finally defend a title.

Well he won't in this fight because he's not the current lightweight champion.

Ush1

Greentopia wrote: »

Low class thug who has made use of the one talent he has-physical violence, and thinks splashing around lots of dosh gives him class. Uh no. His whole family are an example of the worst excesses of tacky bling materialism and neauveau riche excess.

Prediction: all that money will end up in the casinos of Vegas, up his nose, and in the pockets of his lawyers, dodgy business associates and managers; those houses, cars and all the other shiny baubles sold off, and within 10 years he'll be back in Lucan fat and broke looking for plumbing jobs down the local Intreo centre. :pac:

Successful boxers/fighters aren't known for their savvy business skills coming from nothing to sudden riches...

A certain Mr Mayweather Jr. seems a decent business man.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Greentopia wrote: »

For a while. At the rate he's burning through it that may not be the case forever. And his career has a short shelf life.

Joe Rogan spoke about Conor's money on a Podcast recently and reckoned Conor could lose/spend it all inside of three years from the time of his retirement.

Mike Tyson and Sugar Ray Leonard speak in their autobiographies about going from rags to riches and how quickly they were back in rags again.

I hope he keeps it, God only know's he's earned it and best of luck to him with it.

BattleCorp

Joe Rogan spoke about Conor's money on a Podcast recently and reckoned Conor could lose/spend it all inside of three years from the time of his retirement.

I'd be surprised if McGregor has €10m.

PlaneSpeeking

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'd be surprised if McGregor has €10m.

Didn't I read somewhere Katie Price has burned through 45m GBP in a few years ?

I'd like to think with a kid and one on the way he's got a wedge invested.

Boom_Bap

I believe that McGregor has previously spoken of his planning for the future and that he has seen enough retired fighters become bankrupt.

I don't see money being a problem for him down the line, or his kids.

Woke Hogan

In ten years, I have no doubt that Conor McGregor will be completely skint and getting into scraps with randomers outside kebab shops. I wonder where the hanger-ons, groupies and "he's smarter than he looks" advocates will be then?

AlmightyCushion

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'd be surprised if McGregor has €10m.

The figure bandied about for the Mayweather fight is around €100m. That was only a year ago. There is no way he's only got €10m left.

PlaneSpeeking

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The figure bandied about for the Mayweather fight is around €100m. That was only a year ago. There is no way he's only got €10m left.

Was that all his - tax, agents fees etc ?

Star Bingo

Woke Hogan wrote: »

In ten years, I have no doubt that Conor McGregor will be completely skint and getting into scraps with randomers outside kebab shops. I wonder where the hanger-ons, groupies and "he's smarter than he looks" advocates will be then?

Interesting. Do think he’ll be availing of the daily two-for-one deal from the Mona Lisa?

Jim Bob Scratcher

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The figure bandied about for the Mayweather fight is around €100m. That was only a year ago. There is no way he's only got €10m left.

But after tax that amounts too 13.5 million :pac:

Woke Hogan

Star Bingo wrote: »

Interesting. Do think he’ll be availing of the daily two-for-one deal from the Mona Lisa?

Definitely. He will have a family to support after all.

BattleCorp

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'd be surprised if McGregor has €10m.

The figure bandied about for the Mayweather fight is around €100m. That was only a year ago. There is no way he's only got €10m left.

He didn't get the colour of €100m. As was already said, taxes, agents, management etc.

AlmightyCushion

BattleCorp wrote: »

He didn't get the colour of €100m. As was already said, taxes, agents, management etc.

I should have actually put the dollar sign in there not the euro sign. Force of habit. Anyways, while it's very true he didn't get the full $100m into his bank account even if he ended up with only half that then to have €10m left over he'd have to have burned everything he earned in the UFC up to that point and many 10's of millions of top of that in just over a year. That seems very unlikely.

brainfreeze

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I should have actually put the dollar sign in there not the euro sign. Force of habit. Anyways, while it's very true he didn't get the full $100m into his bank account even if he ended up with only half that then to have €10m left over he'd have to have burned everything he earned in the UFC up to that point and many 10's of millions of top of that in just over a year. That seems very unlikely.

According to forbes he made $85m on the Mayweather fight (purse + ppv sales) , and made an additional 14 million on endorsements for the fight from Burger King, Beats by Dre, Monster Energy, David August, BSN, Anheuser-Busch, HiSmile and Betsafe. So $99 Million for the fight everything included.

This does not include anything he's made since then. It's also not like he was broke before that, he earned $64 million though fights and endorsements a year previous.

In terms of sports starts, only Mayweather, Messi and Ronaldo earned more than him last year. He ranks #4 on the 2018 rich list that takes in your previous years earnings.


Regarding Taxes, it's not like the U.S Government can take nearly 40% of his earnings like he's working in an office getting a salary. His endorsements and earnings are all funneled through his various companies, not him as a person. Also the fight was in Las Vegas, which he will only get taxed 10% on the $85 Million. He set up these companies years ago to reduce the amount of tax he has to pay.

Kavanagh has also stated tax being the main reason it's unlikely you'll see McGregor fight in Croke Park in the future.

Taxes. Torturous. The fight would generate a nine-figure sum, and in Ireland half of that would go on taxes, while in Las Vegas, he'd only have to pay 10 per cent of tax.

It would also have to be done on Las Vegas time, which is eight hours behind of Ireland, so the event would start at midnight here and finish at 6am. This would cause conflict with local residents and the government.

He's not going broke anytime soon. He made way over 160 million in less than two years and those are outdated figures. Agreed, having only 10 million very, very unlikely.

khaldrogo

BattleCorp wrote:

I'd be surprised if McGregor has €10m.

?

He got over 100mil for the boxing farce.....even after tax etc I'd say he has well over 50mil

pleas advice

how much would a ton of coke set you back...?

arybvtcw0eolkf

brainfreeze wrote: »

Kavanagh

I've often wondered what kind of money JK has made with his cash cow

Milk_Tray

Teresa Long Droplet wrote: »

I've often wondered what kind of money JK has made with his cash cow

a % of his fights...thats it +any kind gestures mc sent him

Muahahaha

Teresa Long Droplet wrote: »

I've often wondered what kind of money JK has made with his cash cow

Isnt there usually a kind of set % for coaches in the fight game? Like perhaps 10 or 15% of the purse. I would say JK only gets a % of the purse, McGregors endorsements & sponsorship money would be excluded from that.

Purse money aside I would say JK has done very well on the gym side of the business. SBG is packed to the rafters and Id imagine the majority of the initial interest is down to McGregor. Once they are in the gym door it is up to JK to retain them but without McGregors fame it wouldnt be near as busy as it is.

ShowMeTheCash

khaldrogo wrote: »

How long have you been fighting for?

Boxing as a kid and MMA until I was 32 or 33, whatever summer it was I had a pretty bad knee tear.


So that was about 5 or 6 years ago.

khaldrogo wrote: »

I competed in my youth. I know many Russians.

Have you lived in Russia?

khaldrogo wrote: »

None of them trained. Everyone of them would tear me apart. Its in them from birth to fight. Surrender is weak in their eyes.

This just sounds like nonsense to me.....

Heart or being "bad" means nothing if you have no training, you put anyone in a ring with someone with a high level of jiu jitsu weather they are Russian or Martian, give it 30 seconds they are going to be asleep!



You ask a guy who thinks he's hard to go toe to toe with a trained boxer within 30 seconds he is going to think he is surrounded.

khaldrogo wrote: »

Surrender is survival in Conors eyes. If you think this inbred determination and an unwillingness to fold isn't going to stand to Khabib against the inflated ego that is Conor then you don't know what you're talking about.

I am a fan of the Conor of 4/5 years ago. I still am a fan of the athlete, not so much the man. I want to see him return to how he was but 160 million would change the best of us.

Khabib by sub or GnP in the third.

This kind of thinking really only happens with people who don't know anything about fighting.



You have not talked about any real fighting skill or style or technique, fast hands or ground game. Just that he is Russian.


Khabib's boxing is below average, go watch any of his fights... His positives is he can eat a punch or two and has robustness, he is strong and bit like the Tito Ortiz of old, his ground and pound is his main strength.....


But like Tito I think he will come undone when he meets a good and powerful striker... Chuck Liddell was a natural precision striker as is Conor. And Chuck made Tito look ordinary



I think this is a dangerous match up for Khabib, if Conor can neutralize the take down and Khabib is forced to stand I cannot see Khabib even coming close to winning this fight....

khaldrogo

ShowMeTheCash wrote:

I think this is a dangerous match up for Khabib, if Conor can neutralize the take down and Khabib is forced to stand I cannot see Khabib even coming close to winning this fight....

Agreed. I never said Conor couldn't win the fight. If they stay on their feet he may well win it but I don't think it will stay on the feet. I think Khabib will look to take him down as early as possible. When it goes to the ground Conor will not be able for what Khabib will dish out.

Training, no training or whatever, I'm entitled to my opinion as you are to yours and trying to suggest that MY personal experiences which have influenced my opinion are of no worth is bollix.

ShowMeTheCash

khaldrogo wrote: »

Agreed. I never said Conor couldn't win the fight. If they stay on their feet he may well win it but I don't think it will stay on the feet. I think Khabib will look to take him down as early as possible. When it goes to the ground Conor will not be able for what Khabib will dish out.

Chad Mendez had the same game plan...... And even if you look at the Diaz fight Conor was totally gassed before it went to the ground.


I don't think Khabib would of taken the punishment that Diaz took and come through the other end.

khaldrogo wrote: »

Training, no training or whatever, I'm entitled to my opinion as you are to yours and trying to suggest that MY personal experiences which have influenced my opinion are of no worth is bollix.

Everyone can have an opinion, but there are informed opinions and ill-informed. Being Russian because you knew or know a few Russians I would put down to anecdotal bias which I would not take too seriously.

khaldrogo

ShowMeTheCash wrote:

Chad Mendez had the same game plan...... And even if you look at the Diaz fight Conor was totally gassed before it went to the ground.

From what I've seen I think he has a better chance of getting it to the ground.

ShowMeTheCash wrote:

I don't think Khabib would of taken the punishment that Diaz took and come through the other end.

I think he will surprise you with the punishment he can take tbh


Don't get me wrong. I want Conor to win and hope he does but I don't think he will.