The Conor McGregor Thread

Alf Veedersane

mad muffin wrote: »

I might not be into sports but I think I understand what a sportsman is better than you.

You have a very narrow and basic understanding of what a sportsman is. He might be a sports professional. He might be good at his chosen sport. That doesn’t make him a sportsman.

He demands respect without giving it. He doesn’t respect his opponents. He doesn’t respect his sport. If he did he wouldn’t carry on like he dose. He might bring in the crowds with his crassness. With his casual racism. With his flashy outfits and fast cars. Still doesn’t make him a sportsman.

A sportsman wouldn’t behave like he does. A sportsman wouldn’t be arrested for destroying property and threading people.

No. He’s definitely not a sportsman.

Tl;dr

Sportsman = people in sports you like.
Not a sportsman = people in sports you don't lile

Sunny Disposition

Don’t really know anything about MMA, but why did McGregor tap out instead of waiting for a stoppage? Why not be carried out on your shield so to speak? Or do I have it wrong, is there no fault in quitting in that way?

mad muffin

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Do yourself and all of us a favour and look at how he reacts to his opponents after every single fight.

Yes even after the Khabib fight, he sat and took his loss like a man until all the other nonsense happened and I am sure he would have offered a handshake after Khabibs hand was raised.

I highly doubt Khabib would have shook his hand after McGregors carryon. Why do you think he lost his shît after he won? Not for McGregors sportsman like behaviour.

RocketRaccoon

mad muffin wrote: »

I highly doubt Khabib would have shook his hand after McGregors carryon. Why do you think he lost his shafter he won? Not for McGregors sportsman like behaviour.

I didn't say Khabib would have, I said he would have been offered a handshake.

RocketRaccoon

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Don’t really know anything about MMA, but why did McGregor tap out instead of waiting for a stoppage? Why not be carried out on your shield so to speak? Or do I have it wrong, is there no fault in quitting in that way?

Because with the hold that was applied there's a high risk of a broken jaw. If you can't get out of it then tap, absolutely no shame in it.

mahoney_j

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Do yourself and all of us a favour and look at how he reacts to his opponents after every single fight.

Yes even after the Khabib fight, he sat and took his loss like a man until all the other nonsense happened and I am sure he would have offered a handshake after Khabibs hand was raised.

He sat and took his loss because he was well beaten and maby concussed ,as for offering kabib a handshake that was never going to happen

Noveight

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Because with the hold that was applied there's a high risk of a broken jaw. If you can't get out of it then tap, absolutely no shame in it.

Also am I right in saying that if they don't tap and end up passing out they can't fight again for a number of months or something?

Vaguely remember hearing something similar to that.

RocketRaccoon

mahoney_j wrote: »

He sat and took his loss because he was well beaten and maby concussed ,as for offering kabib a handshake that was never going to happen

Exactly, he knew he was beaten by a better man. Just like against Nate Diaz and Floyd Mayweather, how did he react after those fights?

Sofiztikated

mad muffin wrote: »

I might not be into sports but I think I understand what a sportsman is better than you.

You have a very narrow and basic understanding of what a sportsman is. He might be a sports professional. He might be good at his chosen sport. That doesn’t make him a sportsman.

He demands respect without giving it. He doesn’t respect his opponents. He doesn’t respect his sport. If he did he wouldn’t carry on like he dose. He might bring in the crowds with his crassness. With his casual racism. With his flashy outfits and fast cars. Still doesn’t make him a sportsman.

A sportsman wouldn’t behave like he does. A sportsman wouldn’t be arrested for destroying property and threading people.

No. He’s definitely not a sportsman.

Anthony Joshua, with his time in prison for assault and community service for possession with intent to supply? Is he a sportsman?

What about Floyd Mayweather? Time inside for domestic violence.

Eric Cantona? Assault and was once banned from international football

Tiger Woods? DUI's


And on and on.

RocketRaccoon

Noveight wrote: »

Also am I right in saying that if they don't tap and end up passing out they can't fight again for a number of months or something?

Vaguely remember hearing something similar to that.

Medical suspensions are a thing.

mad muffin

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Anthony Joshua, with his time in prison for assault and community service for possession with intent to supply? Is he a sportsman?

What about Floyd Mayweather? Time inside for domestic violence.

Eric Cantona? Assault and was once banned from international football

Tiger Woods? DUI's


And on and on.

Yes. I didn’t say they were perfect. They made mistakes and are more humble for it. They conduct themselves with dignity in their respective sport. What did McGregor learn from his altercation in New York? Absolutely nothing.

RocketRaccoon

mad muffin wrote: »

Yes. I didn’t say they were perfect. They made mistakes and are more humble for it. They conduct themselves with dignity in their respective sport. What did McGregor learn from his altercation in New York? Absolutely nothing.

Mayweather is humble hahahahahahahaha

mad muffin

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Mayweather is humble hahahahahahahaha

Yes. He was very humble with his match against McGregor. Can you say the same about McGregor?

RocketRaccoon

mad muffin wrote: »

Yes. He was very humble with his match against McGregor. Can you say the same about McGregor?

They were both as bad as each other in the buildup to their fight(not match). Both were ultra respectful afterwards.

Cupatae

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Don’t really know anything about MMA, but why did McGregor tap out instead of waiting for a stoppage? Why not be carried out on your shield so to speak? Or do I have it wrong, is there no fault in quitting in that way?

Because if you dont tap they keep going till ur asleep or theres permanent damage done, arm bar with no tap = broke arm.

awec

In fairness Mayweather has earned the right to be a bit of a mouthpiece, he has a fight record that McGregor can only dream of.

RocketRaccoon

awec wrote: »

In fairness Mayweather has earned the right to be a bit of a mouthpiece, he has a fight record that McGregor can only dream of.

He has that record because by and large he has beaten tin cans to get to that 50-0 record.

mad muffin

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

They were both as bad as each other in the buildup to their fight(not match). Both were ultra respectful afterwards.

As usual McGregor made it personal. Later after getting his ass handed to him he said it was only business.

We can spar (is that the right term? Are we sparing? Don’t want to get the terminology wrong again) all night.

awec

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

He has that record because by and large he has beaten tin cans to get to that 50-0 record.

:pac:

#50 definitely a tin can anyway.

RocketRaccoon

mad muffin wrote: »

As usual McGregor made it personal. Later after getting his ass handed to him he said it was only business.

We can spar (is that the right term? Are we sparing? Don’t want to get the terminology wrong again) all night.

I'm not sure why you keep trying to discuss sports considering you've already admitted you've no interest in it.

mad muffin

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I'm not sure why you keep trying to discuss sports considering you've already admitted you've no interest in it.

Last I checked. This is after hours. Not the sports forum. Perhaps you are the one who is lost?

RocketRaccoon

mad muffin wrote: »

Last I checked. This is after hours. Not the sports forum. Perhaps you are the one who is lost?

It is indeed but you've admitted you have no interest in sport. So why try to discuss it and be wrong so consistently? Mayweather being humble is a classic though hahaha

AlmightyCushion

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

It is indeed but you've admitted you have no interest in sport. So why try to discuss it and be wrong so consistently? Mayweather being humble is a classic though hahaha

The guy trademarked the term 'the best ever'. He's as humble as they come.

mad muffin

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

It is indeed but you've admitted you have no interest in sport. So why try to discuss it and be wrong so consistently? Mayweather being humble is a classic though hahaha

Compared to McGregor yes. Very humble. Mayweather is an absolute legend. Worth more than McGregor could earn in 10 lifetimes. McGregor won’t even warrant a cliff note in the annals of history.

RocketRaccoon

mad muffin wrote: »

Compared to McGregor yes. Very humble. Mayweather is an absolute legend. Worth more than McGregor could earn in 10 lifetimes. McGregor won’t even warrant a cliff note in the annals of history.

How do you know? You've no interest in sport.

mad muffin

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

How do you know? You've no interest in sport.

It’s simple mathematics really.

right, so I deleted my psycho-analysis post, although its too late as I have been quoted several times now.

I admire Connor because he is a self made mega success, and he has done so through sheer hard work, single-minded focus and talent... plus a huge amount of self belief.

This time around he went to the dark side though. I wonder did he have a few shots of whiskey before the press conference. Was the bus incident for the same reason? This fight brought out the worst in both contestants.

J Mysterio

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

He has that record because by and large he has beaten tin cans to get to that 50-0 record.

Mayweathers last 12 victories:

Conor McGregor
Manny Pacquiao
Marcos Maidana
Marcos Maidana
Canelo Álvarez
Robert Guerrero
Miguel Cotto
Victor Ortiz
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Márquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya

Cupatae

J Mysterio wrote: »

Mayweathers last 12 victories:

Conor McGregor
Manny Pacquiao
Marcos Maidana
Marcos Maidana
Canelo Álvarez
Robert Guerrero
Miguel Cotto
Victor Ortiz
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Márquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya

A great record, but your not telling the full story, you list off the victory but leave out the fact of when he chose to face these fighters, his a smart man and picked his fights wisely!

Joe Don Dante

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

How do you know? You've no interest in sport.

Get The Strap

Ultimate Seduction

J Mysterio wrote: »

Mayweathers last 12 victories:

Conor McGregor
Manny Pacquiao
Marcos Maidana
Marcos Maidana
Canelo Álvarez
Robert Guerrero
Miguel Cotto
Victor Ortiz
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Márquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya

And the 38 before that?

RocketRaccoon

J Mysterio wrote: »

Mayweathers last 12 victories:

Conor McGregor
Manny Pacquiao
Marcos Maidana
Marcos Maidana
Canelo Álvarez
Robert Guerrero
Miguel Cotto
Victor Ortiz
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Muez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya

Someone already got there before me, it's his choosing of when to fight most of those guys.

Vincent Vega

Odhinn

Cupatae wrote: »

A great record, but your not telling the full story, you list off the victory but leave out the fact of when he chose to face these fighters, his a smart man and picked his fights wisely!

He did, but he's still undoubtedly one of the greatest boxers of all time - extraordinary foot work, focus, timing and technical excellence.

Too Tough To Die

Mayweather is without doubt the best of his generation but since the De La Hoya fight he always had a lot of control and stacked the deck in his favour in ways that are just not possible in the UFC. He made sure to stay away when Pacquiao was on the type of streak Khabib is on now. I think Mayweather would've beaten a peak Pacquiao too.

Odhinn

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Mayweather is without doubt the best of his generation but since the De La Hoya fight he always had a lot of control and stacked the deck in his favour in ways that are just not possible in the UFC. He made sure to stay away when Pacquiao was on the type of streak Khabib is on now. I think Mayweather would've beaten a peak Pacquiao too.

Certainly I don't think either he or pacquiao thought of it as anything other than an exhibition match. Who would have beaten who at their peak is one of those things debated after a few jars amongst fans of the sport.

Pug160

I'm not an expert - just somewhat of a casual - but the boxer in recent times (pound for pound) who looked the most unbeatable was Roy Jones Jr in his prime years. Outrageous speed and agility. Just the athleticism in itself was a sight to behold.

FTA69

Mayweather was mustard, like him or not he was the best of his generation. The Paquiao stuff was moot to be honest, he's actually older than Manny so the idea he waited for him to be past his prime and all of that is cobblers. He beat pretty much the best of the best during his 30s and that's fair enough.

RocketRaccoon

Odhinn wrote: »

He did, but he's still undoubtedly one of the greatest boxers of all time - extraordinary foot work, focus, timing and technical excellence.

Definitely in the top 5 of all time, nobody can question that. But the 50-0 record he has is very skewed in his favour due to the timing of certain fights, that's all.

Ash.J.Williams

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Can't believe that was posted and the following posts are by a bunch of bitches discussing mayweather

arybvtcw0eolkf

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Respect to Khabib for that one.

CmcG way overstepped the mark in the run up to this one. Now he's discovering what its like to be the bully brought back down to earth.

I hope Conor retires and fecks off.

RocketRaccoon

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Can't believe that was posted and the following posts are by a bunch of bitches discussing mayweather

That's being discussed in the other McGregor threads by people who have a clue about MMA which is much better than the clueless fools on this thread.

mad muffin

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

That's being discussed in the other McGregor threads by people who have a clue about MMA which is much better than the clueless fools on this thread.

Oh snap! Sweet burn niggit!

RocketRaccoon

mad muffin wrote: »

Oh snap! Sweet burn niggit!

Not down with the lingo I'm afraid. Niggit?

Blanco100

There were certain fights at certain times that Mayweather swerved.

He stayed away from Margarito and Paul Williams at welterweight, he was better than both clearly but they would have been wrong for Floyd.

Manny Pacquiao in 2009/2010 was also avoided particularly having seen what he did to Cotto. Firmly believe Mayweather didnt want any part of him at that stage

arybvtcw0eolkf

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Not down with the lingo I'm afraid. Niggit?

Niggit

brainfreeze

For the "McGregor threw the first punch" crowd:

https://youtu.be/6NxF3i-PkTo?t=168

Chael Sonnen is a friend of Khabibs and regularly trains with him, as recently as last week before the fight.

weldoninhio

brainfreeze wrote: »

For the "McGregor threw the first punch" crowd:

https://youtu.be/6NxF3i-PkTo?t=168

Chael Sonnen is a friend of Khabibs and regularly trains with him, as recently as last week before the fight.

"if you're engaging me aggressively" - No one "engaged" McGregor aggressively or otherwise on top of the cage. Khabibs cousin was trying to get over it the same as McGregor, someone from security had McGregors leg so he couldn't leave the cage so he took a swipe at the nearest member of Khabibs team.

brainfreeze

weldoninhio wrote: »

"if you're engaging me aggressively" - No one "engaged" McGregor aggressively or otherwise on top of the cage. Khabibs cousin was trying to get over it the same as McGregor, someone from security had McGregors leg so he couldn't leave the cage so he took a swipe at the nearest member of Khabibs team.

That's wimp talk!

Mr. CooL ICE

mad muffin wrote: »

No. He’s definitely not a sportsman.

I think you've gotten mixed up with 'being a sportsman' and 'having sportsmanship'. The two are different and not mutually exclusive. Until you recognise the difference between the two, maybe you shouldn't claim that a man who competes in a sport at a high level isn't a sportsman.