The 2018 World Cup Superthread

Loafing Oaf

Quazzie wrote: »

That simply HAS to be a red card.

Wasn't there a tweak to the rule that if you make a serious attempt to get a ball it's not a red?

raiders11

That keeper for Ireland u17s that got sent off in peno shoot out at euros, must be real sickened watching games today....Schmicheal was off line saving that peno n Russian keeper earlier today was same....

Alonso77

Corholio wrote: »

Isn't the rule if it's last man and a penalty is given it's only a yellow, so as to not double punish them?

I think if it's a genuine attempt at a tackle it's a yellow, if it's blatant hack or foul it's red

Quazzie

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Wasn't there a tweak to the rule that if you make a serious attempt to get a ball it's not a red?

That's news to me, but it appears you're right. Fair rule in most circumstances, except in this it was a guaranteed winner and now they might be out :eek:

bantee

Lol it was a blatant foul to deny a clear goal scoring opportunity

Loafing Oaf

Quazzie wrote: »

That's news to me, but it appears you're right. Fair rule in most circumstances, except in this it was a guaranteed winner and now they might be out :eek:

Red wouldn't have been much use to Croatia at that stage. Bit like the Suarez-Ghana scenario in 2010...

Kaspar would want to be careful
Be mad if he got sent off during the shoot out

The Talking Bread

Most of these penalties, even some of the ones scored have been well below par

FourFourRED

Silly run up

The Talking Bread

WORST

SHOOTOUT


EVER

Rossi IRL

Kasper must of pissed on Brian Kerr's cornflakes. Both keepers coming off the line but he just kept whining about Kasper.

Must of had a few shillings on Croatia.

blueser

Had to laugh at Schmeichel complaining about the Croat's run up when he was way off his line for every spot kick.

blueser

Alonso77 wrote: »

I think if it's a genuine attempt at a tackle it's a yellow, if it's blatant hack or foul it's red

There seems to be a few on here who are ignorant of the ruling.

Loafing Oaf

Seems like the goalie encroachment rule is like overcarrying in GAA. The rule says 4 steps but you have to take at least 8 before you're penalised...

Drumpot

No Germany, no Argentina , no Spain.... No South American team has ever won in Europe...... It’s happening....

Greybottle

Drumpot wrote: »

No Germany, no Argentina , no Spain.... No South American team has ever won in Europe...... It’s happening....

Brazil won in Sweden in 1958

Skylinehead

Drumpot wrote: »

No Germany, no Argentina , no Spain.... No South American team has ever won in Europe...... It’s happening....

Eh, look at who won in Sweden 1958...:pac:

madalig12

Corholio wrote: »

Isn't the rule if it's last man and a penalty is given it's only a yellow, so as to not double punish them?

No, it has to be a genuine atrempt to win the ball. A blatent trip or push or pull is a red.

Akrasia

Plus, is Russia even in Europe? Its 77% in Asia

Drumpot

Greybottle wrote: »

Brazil won in Sweden in 1958

Good spot....

So it’s not happening.....

blueser

Akrasia wrote: »

Plus, is Russia even in Europe? Its 77% in Asia

In the football world anyway, it's in Europe. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying

MisterAnarchy

Martin o Neill and Slaven Bilic almost came to blows on Itv.
Two very intense men.

Turtwig

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Martin o Neill and Slaven Bilic almost came to blows on Itv.
Two very intense men.

O'Neill talking about the Ireland U17 thing?

Stephen15

blueser wrote: »

In the football world anyway, it's in Europe. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying

And all the host cities are in Europe bar one

ArmaniJeanss

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Well we assumed all of Russia were doping in other sports - and they were. How would soccer players avoid a state program in a country like Russia run by a totalitarian leader ?

I guess if you don't want to be part of a state doping program then it's relatively easy to say No if you are a footballer on €2M a year, as opposed to being say a javelin thrower or a rhythmic gymnast surviving on state grants.

Okon

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Martin o Neill and Slaven Bilic almost came to blows on Itv.
Two very intense men.

Bilic hitting him would be more interesting than anything O'Neill has to say anyway.

ERG89

MisterAnarchy wrote:

Martin o Neill and Slaven Bilic almost came to blows on Itv.

If Bilic clipped him I wouldn't be too upset....... Sorry

eagle eye

Bilic always comes across as a bit of a clown to me.

Will I Am Not

One of England, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, Croatia, Denmark or Colombia is going to be in the WC final. Mad.

eagle eye

Am I right in saying that only one of them has been in a final before?

Actually scratch that Sweden were beaten at home by Brazil in '58.

The Talking Bread

eagle eye wrote: »

Am I right in saying that only one of them has been in a final before?

Sweden and England have

Roanmore

eagle eye wrote: »

Am I right in saying that only one of them has been in a final before?

2, England in 66, Sweden in 58

The Talking Bread

Will I Am Not wrote: »

One of England, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, Croatia, Denmark or Colombia is going to be in the WC final. Mad.

Make Denmark the 9th team in the QF

eagle eye

At this stage I still fancy Brazil. I feel they haven't hit top form yet but are growing into the tournament. Neymar needs to hit form, understandable that he is still a bit rusty.
For me the best player in the tournament to this point has been Coutinho.

Will I Am Not

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Make Denmark the 9th team in the QF

Whoops :pac:

Stephen15

eagle eye wrote: »

At this stage I still fancy Brazil. I feel they haven't hit top form yet but are growing into the tournament. Neymar needs to hit form, understandable that he is still a bit rusty.
For me the best player in the tournament to this point has been Coutinho.

Brazil, France or Belgium for me

irishman86

eagle eye wrote: »

At this stage I still fancy Brazil. I feel they haven't hit top form yet but are growing into the tournament. Neymar needs to hit form, understandable that he is still a bit rusty.
For me the best player in the tournament to this point has been Coutinho.

He really hasnt, best Brazilian wouldnt be inaccurate. Ronaldo has been the best attacker in the world cup and Godin the best player both better than Coutinho

MisterAnarchy

Turtwig wrote: »

O'Neill talking about the Ireland U17 thing?

No .
It started when Bilic was saying that Croatia resting players for the last group match had made the performance tonight patchy but O'Neill was arguing the opposite ,that the players should have been fresher tongith after the break.
Then later ITV showed Bilics reactions to the major incidents in the match and he was getting a bit agitated that ITV had been taping him.
Then this happened,Bilic ,having a cut at O'Neill and Ireland .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fx8AEKbaxw

MisterAnarchy

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

No .
It started when Bilic was saying that Croatia resting players for the last group match had made the performance tonight patchy but O'Neill was arguing the opposite ,that the players should have been fresher tongith after the break.
Then later ITV showed Bilics reactions to the major incidents in the match and he was getting a bit agitated that ITV had been taping him.
Then this happened,Bilic ,having a cut at O'Neill and Ireland .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fx8AEKbaxw

We actually have a bigger population. And we used to be able to match them,we deservedly beat them in the Euro 2000 qualifiers after their 1998 World Cup run. Sadly we are so very obviously light years behind them now that it was silly of MON to have any dig at all.

Stephen15

Tough game for Brazil tommorrow against Mexico. Remembering Ochoa's heroics from their game in 2014 to keep the game at 0-0. Looking forward to what should be a good game.

StringerBell

The description of them almost coming to blows had me more excited than was warranted. Not exactly an apt description of events tbf

FatherTed

StringerBell wrote: »

Just vitamin injections sure, nothing to see here *shifts eyes left and right*

Adamocovic

I know were not done yet and maybe it's just because it's so fresh but this for me as been one of the most unpredictable WCs I have watched.

That second side of the draw, I don't think anyone (or very few at least) would have picked any of them to make it to the final.

And again, no team looks unstoppable or clear favourites, all have weaknesses. The Colombia and England game will be so good now I think. Both will be absolutely gunning for it as they know whoever wins that realistically should be the favourite to progress to the final.

Can see a hectic match. Now let's wait for Brazil to get knocked out and it to get ever weirder :P

NIMAN

Love that dig by Bilic on MON. He done right. MON was trying to be a smart @rse saying you can't play this 'small nation' thing any more, yet we are bigger than both Croatia and Uruguay, yet we are regressing in our footballing ability and they push on.

When you leader is a dinosaur of football, what do you expect?

pjohnson

NIMAN wrote: »

Love that dig by Bilic on MON. He done right. MON was trying to be a smart @rse saying you can't play this 'small nation' thing any more, yet we are bigger than both Croatia and Uruguay, yet we are regressing in our footballing ability and they push on.

When you leader is a dinosaur of football, what do you expect?

Ah and I thought we were maybe growing up after yesterday. Oh well.

NIMAN

pjohnson wrote: »

Ah and I thought we were maybe growing up after yesterday. Oh well.

Am I wrong?

pjohnson

NIMAN wrote: »

Am I wrong?

Give me a dinosaur who tries scoring goals than a modern moron wanting 1000+ passes.

ThunbergsAreGo

pjohnson wrote: »

Give me a dinosaur who tries scoring goals than a modern moron wanting 1000+ passes.

What about a dinosaur who doesn't try to score goals or pass :P

Adamocovic

Didn't realise we were in the WC. How are we getting on?

NIMAN

pjohnson wrote: »

Give me a dinosaur who tries scoring goals than a modern moron wanting 1000+ passes.

Who says we must play like that?

Believe me, our players are not technically good enough to keep possession for more than 5 passes, let alone 50 or 60 like Spain.

Why not try to play like Uruguay or Croatia? They don't overly pass for no reason.