The 2018 World Cup Superthread

yourdeadwright

MarkY91 wrote: »

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Eh they were in a group with Tunisia and Panamá, then they played a Colombia side without their star man so I don't buy the supposed to be already home stuff. However I agree with you that they have an "easier"route to the final than other teams.

Well before the Colombia game, many people were showing they have no hope against Colombia.

People written off England are just a bit thick,
Sweden and the winner of Croatia and Russia , your off your rocker if you think England can't beat these, they have a huge chance , Its not that England are amazing its that the others are worse,

The Talking Bread

I wouldn't say Croatia are "worse than England " Quite the opposite. I think they could find a way to get past them though if they can recover from that game. The last 20 minutes and Extra time they geadually struggled stamina wise

Ultimate Seduction

Sprinter Sacre wrote: »

When did you place the bet? Odds currently are @4.5, @3.5, @4.5 and @3.75 on PP. 5er returns 1328. I can't imagine line movement will have been too drastic either but a bit of a sick move to catch for you if prices have steamed in that much. Paddy's odds are woeful in general. Same 5er will return 1684 with Bet365. Marathon seem to be the best with a return of 1740 although they don't accept Irish business.

Maybe my calculations are well off, did it yesterday is all, got Russia and either Belgium or Sweeden at 7/2 as far as I can remember I'll check when I get home

yourdeadwright

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I wouldn't say Croatia are "worse than England " Quite the opposite.  I think they could find a way to get past them though if they can recover from that game. The last 20 minutes and Extra time they geadually struggled stamina wise

Croatia are they most over hyped team I nthe tournament because they beat Argentina 3-0 , and Argentina where awful .
Other than that they have been totally average, They also finished second in qualifying behind Iceland, and are miles behind England in the world ranking,
England have a huge advantage on Croatia and its a chap called Harry Kane,  International football is pretty poor if you have someone who gets goals you can go a long long way ,

Laois_Man

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Praying this crazy world cup gets a lil crazier.

I keep seeing this and I'm a bit baffled. I don't see anything unusually crazy about this world sup compared to others

The Germany 2006 word cup is the only one that it can be said was devoid of many shocks. Going all the way back to Italia '90....


Italia 90
Defending champions Argentina scraped thru as one of the best 3rd placed teams - Would have been out if it were this world cup. Same for Holland (by virtue of a draw of lots with Ireland). The other Euro 2008 finalists (Russia) eliminated in round 1

Last 16: Yugoslavia beat Spain, Cameroon beat Colombia


USA 94

Eliminated in the first round: Colombia (supposed to be a dark horse to win it outright),

Again Argentina & Italy scraped thru as one of the best 3rd placed teams. Would have been out of this world cup

Last 16 shocks: Romania beating Argentina
QF Shok: Bulgaria beat Germany (defending champions) - Sweden got to the semi-final also

France 98
Out in the first round: Spain, Colombia
Croatia hammered Germany in the quarter finals
France hammering Brazil in the final was a shock result at that time

Japan / S. Korea 2002
First round eliminatins for France (defending champions), Uruguay, Portugal, Argentina,
last 16: USA beat Mexico, South Korea beat Italy,
Quarter Finals: South Korea knock Spain out on pens - Turkey also in the semi-final


South Africa 2010

Defending champions (Italy) went home in round 1 along with France. Holland beat Brazil

Brazil 2014:
Defending champions again went home in round 1 (Spain) along with both Italy and England from the same group, Portugal also eliminated in round 1.

eagle eye

Ricardo Gareca has pretty much said he is interested in the Argentina job. He has the option right now to leavethe Peru job or stay on. He has said he is going to take a little time to consider his position and stated that as of now he is 'free coach'.
I'd love to see him get the job. I have been saying this first five years now and spoke about it before the World Cup.

Ultimate Seduction

Laois_Man wrote: »

I keep seeing this and I'm a bit baffled. I don't see anything unusually crazy about this world sup compared to others

The Germany 2006 word cup is the only one that it can be said was devoid of many shocks. Going all the way back to Italia '90....


Italia 90
Defending champions Argentina scraped thru as one of the best 3rd placed teams - Would have been out if it were this world cup. Same for Holland (by virtue of a draw of lots with Ireland). The other Euro 2008 finalists (Russia) eliminated in round 1

Last 16: Yugoslavia beat Spain, Cameroon beat Colombia


USA 94

Eliminated in the first round: Colombia (supposed to be a dark horse to win it outright),

Again Argentina & Italy scraped thru as one of the best 3rd placed teams. Would have been out of this world cup

Last 16 shocks: Romania beating Argentina
QF Shok: Bulgaria beat Germany (defending champions) - Sweden got to the semi-final also

France 98
Out in the first round: Spain, Colombia
Croatia hammered Germany in the quarter finals
France hammering Brazil in the final was a shock result at that time

Japan / S. Korea 2002
First round eliminatins for France (defending champions), Uruguay, Portugal, Argentina,
last 16: USA beat Mexico, South Korea beat Italy,
Quarter Finals: South Korea knock Spain out on pens - Turkey also in the semi-final


South Africa 2010

Defending champions (Italy) went home in round 1 along with France. Holland beat Brazil

Brazil 2014:
Defending champions again went home in round 1 (Spain) along with both Italy and England from the same group, Portugal also eliminated in round 1.

It's a world cup semi final without Italy, Spain Netherlands ,Germany , Argentina and one of Brazil or France.



One of Sweeden Russia Croatia or England will be in the final.

It's crazy world cup

gimli2112

From the DM
But Stones is adamant his team are staying within the rules. He said: 'I say it's clever. I think it is about having a great footballing brain and knowing when to do that without being called a cheat or diver.

'Being clever and buying a smart foul is something that we've got as a team and it can help us through the tournament.'

I think if the shoe ends up on the other foot it will be called something else.

jacool

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Croatia are they most over hyped team I nthe tournament because they beat Argentina 3-0 , and Argentina where awful .
Other than that they have been totally average, They also finished second in qualifying behind Iceland, and are miles behind England in the world ranking,
England have a huge advantage on Croatia and its a chap called Harry Kane,  International football is pretty poor if you have someone who gets goals you can go a long long way ,

Croatia are unbeaten, have a midfield containing Modric, Rakitic and Perisic, all of whom would walk into the English side. An English side who lost to Iceland, the team you mention finishing ahead of Croatia in the qualifiers.
England have only beaten Sweden once in their last 8 meetings.
For World rankings #57 beat #1 in this tournament so that's a moot point.
I'm seeeing Harry Maguire getting sent off and 1-0 Sweden, and England won't have to worry about Croatia.

eagle eye

jacool wrote:

Croatia are unbeaten, have a midfield containing Modric, Rakitic and Perisic, all of whom would walk into the English side. An English side who lost to Iceland, the team you mention finishing ahead of Croatia in the qualifiers. England have only beaten Sweden once in their last 8 meetings. For World rankings #57 beat #1 in this tournament so that's a moot point. I'm seeeing Harry Maguire getting sent off and 1-0 Sweden, and England won't have to worry about Croatia.

As he said Croatia are overrated by a lot of people and you are among them.
Based on his performances in the World Cup you would have Peresic in most teams but prior to it he certainly wouldn't be getting into the English team.

eagle eye

Today's game is hard to call. France have a great panel but haven't looked that good to me to this point.
Cavani is a huge loss for Uruguay.

This could be 0-0 for a long time.

Two best centre backs and beat full back in the World Cup to this point for me are in this game. Giminez and Godin for Uruguay and Hernandez for France. All of them from the same club too.

Corholio

Uruguay have been a smarter Colombia physically wise. They are a dirty team, but do it more sneakily, while also exaggerating tackles on themselves.

eagle eye

Two great free kicks. France score there's and Lloris makes a great save to deny Uruguay.

StringerBell

This french team aren't great, Cavani could make such a big difference here shame he won't be involved.

yourdeadwright

eagle eye wrote: »

jacool wrote:

Croatia are unbeaten, have a midfield containing Modric, Rakitic and Perisic, all of whom would walk into the English side. An English side who lost to Iceland, the team you mention finishing ahead of Croatia in the qualifiers. England have only beaten Sweden once in their last 8 meetings. For World rankings #57 beat #1 in this tournament so that's a moot point. I'm seeeing Harry Maguire getting sent off and 1-0 Sweden, and England won't have to worry about Croatia.

As he said Croatia are overrated by a lot of people and you are among them.
Based on his performances in the World Cup you would have Peresic in most teams but prior to it he certainly wouldn't be getting into the English team.

Peresic isn't great at all, At 29 he is still at Inter he has 31 goals in the last 3 season and he should be in his prime .
Sterling at 22 has 44 goals in the last 3
Ali at 22 has 46 goals in the last 3
How on earth is he a better player

retalivity

Stuani having a mare

circadian

Goals aren't everything. He's a solid player, hard working and has a hand in a lot of attacks. Just because he's not as big a goalscorer as others doesn't mean he's useless.

eagle eye

Tolisso is worse than Neymar for acting injured.

StringerBell

These keepers be shocking yo

eagle eye

Oh no Muslera.

Iused2likebusts

That's a Packie Bonner world cup moment

shamrock55

Why in god's name don't keeper's just catch the ball,why are they not being coached to catch it,it's happening to every keeper now,they party or punch balls they should be catching

Corholio

Uruguay struggle when they might have to come out and play some football. France have been average enough but the first goal was always going to be big.

StringerBell

Suarez getting up in a heap about perceived playacting is absolutely hilarious

AdamD

How did Mbappe end up booked? Refs haven't a clue

The_Kew_Tour

The good news for Uruguay is that they can blame head injury and pretend they would have won the game:D

Corholio

They didn't show a great replay but on first view it looks embarrassing from Mbappe.

StringerBell

Corholio wrote: »

They didn't show a great replay but on first view it looks embarrassing from Mbappe.

Yeah that's what I thought first time around, not seen a replay but looked like he made a meal out of some accidental contact with yer man's arm.

MD1990

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

The good news for Uruguay is that they can blame head injury and pretend they would have won the game:D

good one :rolleyes:

Utopia Parkway

Ref in this game definitely fancies himself as a bit of a hard man.

RTE miserable over France winning again

Raging they are

Now it's all Pogba fault
Hah

I'd nearly want them to lift the World Cup to see what excuses are made by Dunphy and Co.

ERG89

Corholio wrote: »

Uruguay struggle when they might have to come out and play some football. France have been average enough but the first goal was always going to be big.

From what I saw in between bouts of sleepiness Uruguay were toothless & slow up top without Cavani l, bar the occaasional chance at a set piece.

Berserker

Fred The Red wrote: »

RTE miserable over France winning again

Raging they are

What did the French do on them? They were worth their victory today. Looked very good. Good bet for the overall WC in my opinion.

The_Kew_Tour

MD1990 wrote: »

good one :rolleyes:

Thanks

The_Kew_Tour

France v Brazil semi would be spicy

blueser

eagle eye wrote: »

Tolisso is worse than Neymar for acting injured.

NOBODY is worse than Neymar for playacting. I wonder, if he's watching a replay of himself on his own, with no one else in the room, is he embarrassed with the theatrics? I'd imagine he would maintain the charade if there were others in the room.

Vicxas

Did anyone else see the fella in the the Irish jersey in the middle of the Brazilians?!

Trigger

Berserker wrote: »

What did the French do on them? They were worth their victory today. Looked very good. Good bet for the overall WC in my opinion.

Aul Thierry broke their hearts

Turtyturd

Fellaini trademark.

Sprinter Sacre

This is going to be a great game now

kerplun k

Now lets see what Brazil are made of.

FixdePitchmark

Who are people up for in this ?

Both not the most lovable teams.

But I think as European football fans we should be up for Belgium

They play great ball and great hope for smaller European nations.

yourdeadwright

How in gods name is Jesus starting he has been crap , Firmino is better at every part of the game

adox

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Who are people up for in this ?

Both not the most lovable teams.

But I think as European football fans we should be up for Belgium

They play great ball and great hope for smaller European nations.

Belgium without a doubt. Neymar’s presence defaults me to cheer for the opposition.

Quazzie

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Who are people up for in this ?

Both not the most lovable teams.

But I think as European football fans we should be up for Belgium

They play great ball and great hope for smaller European nations.

Nah. Really overrated team, and there is a single player in their team I think is likable. Even Neymar wouldn't stop me picking Brazil over them

raiders11

Up for Belgium too....wee bet on 3-2 to both teams and 3-3..

FixdePitchmark

adox wrote: »

Belgium without a doubt. Neymar’s presence defaults me to cheer for the opposition.

Yes you should typically love Brazil team - but just something about this bunch.

It could be the Neymar factor.

All about him - it sums up some of the more recent teams.


Funny enough Belgium have a bit of that in them

Gbear

yourdeadwright wrote: »

How in gods name is Jesus starting he has been crap , Firmino is better at every part of the game

He's done more in 30 minutes of cameos than Jesus has in 4 games.

I get the "if it ain't broke don't fix it approach", but I think they've been winning despite Jesus so far.

IncognitoMan

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Who are people up for in this ?

Both not the most lovable teams.

But I think as European football fans we should be up for Belgium

They play great ball and great hope for smaller European nations.

Brazil because I'd rather watch Brazil v France in the semi's