Formula 1 2018: General Discussion Thread

Anjobe

The main weak link on Sky is obviously David Croft's commentary, mind you for me no F1 commentary team will ever come within a country mile of Murray Walker/James Hunt, anyone else is just different levels of inferiority.

+1 for Ted's notebook. I think we have to accept that the spectacle of the racing in F1 is often not that great and a nerdy interest in the technical/engineering side is needed to love the sport, and Ted covers that side of it pretty well.

My main issue with C4 is the lack of HD coverage. Maybe I'm missing something but on Sky+HD there is no C4 HD channel. More4 & E4 are in HD, and the C4 catchup service, but not C4 itself. Hopefully when SkyQ gets the HDR upgrade next year Sky will broadcast F1 and other live sports in HDR, might be worth the upgrade then.

Harika

Seb still shows allegiance to RedBull

GarIT

I've never seen anyone as far up their own hole as DC, and I've never seen anyone that desperately wants to be one of the british boys as much as Chandhok.

Brundle is the best of the lot IMO. Rosberg is excellent. Webber is very good. EJ has his days. I wouldn't like to see much of Ted during a race but he really is a star for pre and post race content.

I used to hate Di Resta he was a whiny child as a driver but he's grown on me a bit as a commentator.

I'm excited to see Sky getting Button next year.

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OSI wrote: »

I've just never seen someone so utterly devoid of charisma and entertainment get such a prominent role as Simon Lazenby. He must have some serious dirt on someone high up.

Prior to him joining Sky I never heard of him. What did he do previously?

Frank Bullitt

Albon confirmed at TR.

ELM327

Gintonious wrote: »

Albon confirmed at TR.

Yup:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/albon-confirmed-toro-rosso-2019/4304672/

Cool_CM

Addyson Gray Glue wrote: »

OSI wrote: »

I've just never seen someone so utterly devoid of charisma and entertainment get such a prominent role as Simon Lazenby. He must have some serious dirt on someone high up.

Prior to him joining Sky I never heard of him. What did he do previously?

He was on Sky's rugby coverage.

skipper_G

Gintonious wrote: »

Albon confirmed at TR.

skipper_G wrote: »

I've been having a good think, and there's also an outside bet. Alex Albon is a former Red Bull junior driver, currently 3rd in F2. Previously he's done well in both Formula Renault & GP3 and all he needs for a super licence is a top 5 finish in the F2 championship

I do believe my outside bet was a winner, shame I didn't put any cash on it

Harika

Albon kyvat is definitely the weakest driver line-up next year on the grid.
Formula 2 should be interesting with the top 3 moving to F1 and Schumacher and ticktum moving up.

Jordan 199

Two day post season testing begins today.

Harika

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Two day post season testing begins today.

Will RedBull test with the Honda engine already?

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Harika wrote: »

Will RedBull test with the Honda engine already?

Be interesting to see will Renault allow it, after all, Red Bull have blocked Ricciardo testing the Renault on contractual grounds.

pjohnson

Despite no confirmation still Stroll is now in a Force India.

pjohnson

HighLine

Welcome to Sauber Kimi

https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1067427581572476934

Frank Bullitt

Formula 3 European champion Mick Schumacher will graduate to Formula 2 next year with Prema Racing.

The 19-year-old took eight wins and a further six podiums on his way to his first major title this season in European F3 with Prema Racing's sister outfit Prema Powerteam.

A Schumacher at racing weekends with F1 again...warms my heart.

Just wondering if anyone has asked virgin if they will have the sky f1 channel next year? If you don't have Skype it's looks like your screwed, now tv only does full package as well

Cool_CM

LeClerc in the Ferrari tomorrow, should be fun!

GarIT

Jon Clever Cashew wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone has asked virgin if they will have the sky f1 channel next year? If you don't have Skype it's looks like your screwed, now tv only does full package as well

No they won't.

I haven't paid to watch a race since 2014 but watch them online in full HD every weekend without issue.

pjohnson

I hope Leclerc and Gasly are on the same compound today.

Charlie-Bravo

GarIT wrote: »

No they won't.

I haven't paid to watch a race since 2014 but watch them online in full HD every weekend without issue.

I have been too used to watching on satellite (C4/eir) that whenever I use online content, I find the 30-40 delay doesn't sync with the F1 app info. But now that all the important app info information is already on screen, I'm sure this slight delay will not impact on my viewing experience.

FWIW, NowTV isn't eactly now, its more like Now+40secs but i won't be using that one.

pjohnson

Leclerc has beaten Vettels fastest time already at halfway through the second day and tops the charts.

Gasly is 1.5 seconds behind Leclerc in 2nd.

mickdw

Was leclerc on the same tyres as vettel and same sort of weather?

Jordan 199

pjohnson

mickdw wrote: »

Was leclerc on the same tyres as vettel and same sort of weather?

Wasn't released at time of posting which was only midway through. As rubber was being put down times should have naturally improved.


Edit final times. Gasly never closed in on Leclerc. It was the same compound.



Edit 2:

The Honda engine seems to hold its own now. Gelael and Kvyat both went for 150 Laps without issue afaik.

Burkie1203

pjohnson wrote: »

Wasn't released at time of posting which was only midway through. As rubber was being put down times should have naturally improved.


Edit final times. Gasly never closed in on Leclerc. It was the same compound.



Edit 2:

The Honda engine seems to hold its own now. Gelael and Kvyat both went for 150 Laps without issue afaik.

2.4 sec deficit how much of that can be clawed back by red Bull

mickdw

Impressive from leClerc.

Faugheen

Russell putting down an early marker against Kubica too

muckwarrior

Faugheen wrote: »

Russell putting down an early marker against Kubica too

According to Autosport, Kubica wasn't setting representative times. He didn't even match his time from the previous day.

Also, I wouldn't read too much into LeClerc beating Vettel. The track can easily account for a few tenths given it was on different days. Winter testing will give a slightly better view, but Melbourne Qualifying is when we'll really find out who's quickest.

vectra

muckwarrior wrote: »

Also, I wouldn't read too much into LeClerc beating Vettel. The track can easily account for a few tenths given it was on different days. Winter testing will give a slightly better view, but Melbourne Qualifying is when we'll really find out who's quickest.

I agree,
This testing should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Nobody knows what fuel loads etc. that drivers/teams were using among other aspects.

LollipopJimmy

Faugheen wrote: »

Russell putting down an early marker against Kubica too

I'd said this a while back and I hope I'm proved wrong but Kubica returning is not going to be a fairytale.

flazio

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

I'd said this a while back and I hope I'm proved wrong but Kubica returning is not going to be a fairytale.

Depends on definition of fairy-tale. Race wins, not likely.
Some decent points scores on some of the slower tracks, Still possible.
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of racing technology, so that the cream of the driving talent can show us what they can do, if that means being adaptable to disabilities then that puts the sport into a higher plinth of achievement. Just look at how much support Billy Monger is getting.

LollipopJimmy

flazio wrote: »

Depends on definition of fairy-tale. Race wins, not likely.
Some decent points scores on some of the slower tracks, Still possible.
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of racing technology, so that the cream of the driving talent can show us what they can do, if that means being adaptable to disabilities then that puts the sport into a higher plinth of achievement. Just look at how much support Billy Monger is getting.

Billy Mongers injuries are different and from a racing standpoint easier to overcome that Kubica's.

It also needs to be said that Kubica is the second oldest driver on the grid after Kimi who seems to be just staying on for the craic

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LollipopJimmy wrote: »

I'd said this a while back and I hope I'm proved wrong but Kubica returning is not going to be a fairytale.

Even if it isn’t a fairytale it still shows that someone with a permanent disability can compete equally amongst those who don’t have a disability,

He’ll fare ok until the likes of Monaco, only then will it become clear just how big the limitations are.

vectra

flazio wrote: »

Depends on definition of fairy-tale. Race wins, not likely.
Some decent points scores on some of the slower tracks, Still possible.
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of racing technology, so that the cream of the driving talent can show us what they can do, if that means being adaptable to disabilities then that puts the sport into a higher plinth of achievement. Just look at how much support Billy Monger is getting.

Also look at how Alex Zanardi is getting on.

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Billy Mongers injuries are different and from a racing standpoint easier to overcome that Kubica's.

It also needs to be said that Kubica is the second oldest driver on the grid after Kimi who seems to be just staying on for the craic

Where in the hell did you get that notion from?
I know I am a Kimi fan, but to say a driver who came 3rd in the wdc is a fairly harsh statement.

LollipopJimmy

vectra wrote: »

Where in the hell did you get that notion from?
I know I am a Kimi fan, but to say a driver who came 3rd in the wdc is a fairly harsh statement.

Because he's gone to far inferior car that will have little to no chance of scoring a podium finish in 2019 so he's not doing it for glory so it's either money or craic he's doing it for. I've much respect for a driver who goes out just for the love it btw, like I said about Schumacher a few weeks back, he returned to Merc just to race and I have much respect for that.

vectra

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Because he's gone to far inferior car that will have little to no chance of scoring a podium finish in 2019 so he's not doing it for glory so it's either money or craic he's doing it for. I've much respect for a driver who goes out just for the love it btw, like I said about Schumacher a few weeks back, he returned to Merc just to race and I have much respect for that.

My initial reading and understanding of Kimi's move was to help to develop the team further up the ranks.
He still enjoys racing,plus the reigns are now let loose.
Who would have thought he would have done so well in 2012 when he was free to race?
He has been handcuffed since.

billybonkers

I thought silly season was over.....

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/a1elry/i_did_a_shoey_with_my_own_piss_because_i_bet/

Frank Bullitt

vectra wrote: »

My initial reading and understanding of Kimi's move was to help to develop the team further up the ranks.
He still enjoys racing,plus the reigns are now let loose.
Who would have thought he would have done so well in 2012 when he was free to race?
He has been handcuffed since.

Explain.

vectra

Gintonious wrote: »

Explain.

If this needs to be explained to you, then you are watching the wrong sport.

Frank Bullitt

vectra wrote: »

If this needs to be explained to you, then you are watching the wrong sport.

Haha, good man.

You have nothing so, nothing new there. :rolleyes:

pjohnson

Oh dear are some people still trying to pedal the Old Man Kimi thing :pac:

vectra

Gintonious wrote: »

Haha, good man.

* EDIT *
You know what,
I did put and answer here but decided I wouldn't waste my time replying to someone trying to be a troll.

skipper_G

Stroll finally announced by Racing Point
https://twitter.com/ForceIndiaF1/status/1068506521443725317

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skipper_G wrote: »

Stroll finally announced by Racing Point
https://twitter.com/ForceIndiaF1/status/1068506521443725317

That boy is tainted by arrogance & money. Very hard to like him.

Inviere

Addyson Gray Glue wrote: »

That boy is tainted by arrogance & money. Very hard to like him.

Don’t like the guy at all, hope Perez smashes him next season.

muckwarrior

Inviere wrote: »

Don’t like the guy at all, hope Perez smashes him next season.

I'm glad to see him go up against an established driver again. Perez is no slouch, so if Stroll manages to match or beat him then I'll have to eat my words. Can't see it happening though.

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muckwarrior wrote: »

I'm glad to see him go up against an established driver again. Perez is no slouch, so if Stroll manages to match or beat him then I'll have to eat my words. Can't see it happening though.

Perez will destroy him.

I can see it leading to a lesser version of the Alonso/Hamilton 2007 spat. Stroll being destroyed in a team that is effectively his via his father, daddy won't want little Stroll shown up by Perez. Wouldn't surprise me if they tried to find a way to get Perez out hence he was talking to other teams, Daddy was trying to get Kubica in as the second driver initially until he realised Perez was going nowhere.

If it doesn't get as bad as Alonso/Hamilton then it won't be a million miles from Alonso/Vandoorne.

AMKC

I see Williams have got a new Sponsor and also that there was a mock up of how the rich energy Haas car livery will look. I would say Haas are in for a shock sometime in the first half of next season when they realise they have been conned bu a conman. How they have not seen it yet is beyond me.

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AMKC wrote: »

there was a mock up of how the rich energy Haas car livery will look.

https://twitter.com/rich_energy/status/1068100695935631371