Will or would you donate your water refund?

Edward M

I see three homeless charities are targeting anyone getting water charge refunds to donate all or some of it.
Now I paid my charge, I may well donate some to some charity, but given all the talk of high paid execs in these charities, I'd be dubious as to which I'd support.
And also i dont think it is fair to pick on just this section or put a campaign in place targeting it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017/1201/924209-charities-water-refund-homelessness/[/QUOTE]

hawkelady

Don't do it ...... it's a scam !

Toots

I won't, I'm broke as feck so will need that refund to buy food at the end of the month.

c montgomery

**** em, sick to death of the homeless

xabi

Anyone remember how much we paid?

lawred2

Nope.

Dr Turk Turkelton

I remember they sent me a cheque for about a hundred euros a couple of years ago and I kindly donated it to my local barkeep almost immediately.

FrancieBrady

Great idea.
It was dead/spent money anyway.
Love an initiative that helps and doesn't really affect me. It's only money.

waffleman

Id rather buy hot food / drinks.with it and hand it out

I cant help thinkin charities in Ireland these days waste most of any donation

FrancieBrady

waffleman wrote: »

Id rather buy hot food / drinks.with it and hand it out

I cant help thinkin charities in Ireland these days waste most of any donation

Never bothered me that people made a career of helping people.
Some get paid excessively though.
But, fair play to those who are on the frontline.

brightspark

A year old wonder if they have had pay increases or decreases?

http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-charity-ceo-salaries-spending-best-practice-2659408-Mar2016/

10. Patrick Quinn, Head of National Office, Simon
€85,000 salary
Oversees six staff at the Simon Community’s head office, and revenue of €731,347 in 2014.

Simon is a network of regional communities. CEO of the Dublin Simon Community, Sam McGuinness, has a salary of €93,338.

That's just two of the bosses in Simon.

touts

Not a chance. Many of the bleeding heart media attention seeking lefties now telling me that the money could be better spent on the homeless were the very people telling me not to pay the charges a few years ago and that water should be paid for out of general taxation. Well had we all paid for water like we should have then there would be more money in general taxation to help the homeless properly. Next time some lad on the street asks me for something I'm giving him a piece of paper with Paul Murphy's phone number.

Anyway most of the money donated in this scam will just go to pay the wages of the rag tag group of rejects from the media, sports and politics who have reinvented themselves as some of the highest paid charity "administrators" in the world.

Avatar MIA

Just looked up Simon Communities Ireland.

For year ending 31/12/16

Income €934k

Wages and Salaries €380k (6 staff)

Tangible assets €2.3m

Cash €268k

Bank O/D & LT loans €2.3m

Vision - "A society without homelessness"

This org is the umbrella org for the various Simon organisations around the country.

Patrick Quinn receives a salary of €80k. Two other staff received salaries of between €60 and €70k. Separately, pensions of €16.5k were paid.

Apart from €90k from Pobal, the rest was pretty much Donations/charity.

FrancieBrady

touts wrote: »

Not a chance. Many of the bleeding heart media attention seeking lefties now telling me that the money could be better spent on the homeless were the very people telling me not to pay the charges a few years ago and that water should be paid for out of general taxation. Well had we all paid for water like we should have then there would be more money in general taxation to help the homeless properly. Next time some lad on the street asks me for something I'm giving him a piece of paper with Paul Murphy's phone number.

Anyway most of the money donated in this scam will just go to pay the wages of the rag tag group of rejects from the media, sports and politics who have reinvented themselves as some of the highest paid charity "administrators" in the world.

I think you probably know most of that is not true. I didn't object to the principle of paying for water, I objected to the typical FF FG way of doing it
That is why I have no problem donating to help alleviate the typical FG FF reaction to homelessness.

brightspark

Why so many charities dealing with the same issues?

The charity regulator should be forcing any charities with paid CEOs and other admin staff to merge, keeping only the most efficient ones, reducing the need for high paid CEOs (if they were good they would probably have jobs in the private sector anyway)

Those that want to remain separate should loose any "charitable status".

juneg

Charity begins at home, so no.

Mint Sauce

I'm giving it to my local Simon, wasn't expecting it, so not going to miss it.

deandean

Homeless charities are awash with money at this stage. Money is not the problem. I certainly will not be giving my refund to them.

gifted

Not a cent...I used but not anymore...not after Rehab scandal

HONKEY TONK

xabi wrote: »

Anyone remember how much we paid?

I got a cheque for €324 in the door yesterday

bottlebrush

The reason I have a home is because I had to make choices all my life and do without so many other things which others take for granted in order to make it possible. for me having a home is not due to good luck or being helped out by parents or anybody else. it involved sacrifices, choices, working long hours in unpleasant jobs not to mention the anxiety and stress about paying the mortgage and household bills when I was unemployed and didn't get any help.

I think what's lost in all of this is that home ownership has its duties as well as its rights but that's a debate for another day.

So I'm holding on to the refund to treat myself to a certain something I always wanted and felt bad about buying because the money was always needed for something house-related!

But fair play to anybody who does donate the refund. and I hope in your time of need it will come back to you ten fold!

liam7831

I'm going on the beer with it for Xmas so its will be the same as donating it only I get to piss it against the wall

gctest50

Name: Adi Roche

Rank: CEO, Chernobyl Children International

Salary: € 0

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vicwatson

Poll needed

Avatar MIA

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

I got a cheque for €324 in the door yesterday

juneg wrote: »

Charity begins at home, so no.

Thinly veiled I've got a home

touts

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think you probably know most of that is not true. I didn't object to the principle of paying for water, I objected to the typical FF FG way of doing it
That is why I have no problem donating to help alleviate the typical FG FF reaction to homelessness.

Off you go so. And I think you probably know most of your €300 will get lost in administration costs long before any of it reaches the streets.

brightspark

@gctest50

We could do with a few more CEOs like Adi Roche

Edward M

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think you probably know most of that is not true. I didn't object to the principle of paying for water, I objected to the typical FF FG way of doing it
That is why I have no problem donating to help alleviate the typical FG FF reaction to homelessness.

I'd say that's just bunkum, with all due respect!

zl1whqvjs75cdy

**** no. Wouldn't trust Irish charities as far as I'd throw them. Thieving bastards.

touts

brightspark wrote: »

@gctest50

We could do with a few more CEOs like Adi Roche

Is that your one whose presidential campaign was derailed when past employees of her charity spoke to the media about what she was like to work for?

SEPT 23 1989

The homeless charity industry receives over 120million a year in government funding

Enough to build houses for all the homeless since the crisis began

amcalester

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The homeless charity industry receives over 120million a year in government funding

Enough to build houses for all the homeless since the crisis began

Can’t pay the wages if the money is spend on houses.

SEPT 23 1989

amcalester wrote: »

Can’t pay the wages if the money is spend on houses.

Exactly a business no different than any other

Avatar MIA

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The homeless charity industry receives over 120million a year in government funding

Enough to build houses for all the homeless since the crisis began

And put themselves out of business? Turkeys voting for Christmas a more likely prospect.

amcalester

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The homeless charity industry receives over 120million a year in government funding

Enough to build houses for all the homeless since the crisis began

Not to mention that many councils (including DCC whhere most homeless are) voted to reduce the LPT by 15%, money which could have been spent providing much needed services.

august12

Always thought Adi Roche would have been a fine President, probably would have donated all her salary to the Chernobyl fund, she truly is one in a billion.

Merowig

I will definitely donate it to my bank account.

SEPT 23 1989

My philosophy is if you have a few bob to spare and if you are in town give a couple of notes directly to source have a chat with them and wish them well

Bypass the industry

by8auj6csd3ioq

Won't get refund as did not pay bill. But if i did i would not give apeny to any charity with their big salaried bosses. They must think people are stupid. If i want to give money i would give it to some deserving person themselves not through a "keep the CEO in champagne and holidays" so called 'charity'

whoopsadoodles

What I give to charity, I give to charity.

That's not going to change because I get a tax refund or a cheque back from irish water.

If people want to/can give money to charity, they'll do it regardless and shouldn't be made to feel bad about keeping the money they've been refunded.

Jawgap

Quite simply, no.

We have a charity we make donation to as a family at Christmas we'll stick to that.

Personally, I thought the campaign was a silly one.......this isn't a windfall. We're just getting money back we paid that others didn't.......where's the campaign targeting the people who didn't pay (on the basis they 'benefitted' by not paying).

by8auj6csd3ioq

Is that your one whose presidential campaign was derailed when past employees of her charity spoke to the media about what she was like to work for?

yes it is

mad muffin

It’s going to the Mad Muffin benevolence fund.

snowflaker

I gave €100 to a fund for a local baby born with cancer.

The water refund will go into my bank account.

nice_guy80

can't believe people actually paid that money

Mint Sauce

nice_guy80 wrote: »

can't believe people actually paid that money

And we get to keep the €100 grant on top of the refund.

WIN WIN!!

jimmycrackcorm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote:

The homeless charity industry receives over 120million a year in government funding

Exactly. As the anti water people were foud of telling us, we already pay for water and the homeless in our taxes.

So why pay twice?

OldMrBrennan83

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Hitman3000

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

Exactly. As the anti water people were foud of telling us, we already pay for water and the homeless in our taxes.

It cost 94 million to to pay out the conservation grant. That would have provided a lot of homes, instead of trying to get people to sign up to a quango. Btw no aware of anyone who is anti water.

DoozerT6

No.

I'm not going to pontificate about why not. I just want my tree fiddy.

anewme

We get 150 Christmas voucher in work. I give mine to the local animal rescue. They do great work. This year their luck is in as they'll get a voucher and a water refund.