Will or would you donate your water refund?

NIMAN

sozbox wrote: »

If the charities can’t solve the issue with the €120m or so they already have I doubt my €200 will make a difference.

Of course if they did solve the problem they would no longer exist and we can’t be having that can we. CEO needs his 90k package.

You can't solve homelessness. Every country in the world has it.

You can improve it, but never eradicate it.

suicide_circus

sozbox wrote: »

If the charities can’t solve the issue with the €120m or so they already have I doubt my €200 will make a difference.

Of course if they did solve the problem they would no longer exist and we can’t be having that can we. CEO needs his 90k package.

No charity (except those 100% staffed by volunteers) have the slightest interest in "solving" the cause they champion. Quite the reverse.

Edward M

I helped out the local st vdp one year locally to deliver a few Xmas hampers. I was genuinely shocked by some of the people that got them. I'm certainly not saying they didn't deserve them, probably really did need them, but it seems there are a great deal of hidden poor families out there.
Maybe local based charities are the best to help if you have doubts about the bigger ones.
I give food parcels to local groups who collect them, one nearby town has a toy scheme whereby you buy a toy for a child's name on an Xmas card on a big tree. You can give something and know what you give ultimately has to be going to a worthy recipient.

Hotblack Desiato

We have cash benefits among the highest in the world. What are these people spending the money given to them on?

DeanAustin

SterlingArcher wrote: »

Yeah but did you film all that and yourself giving a homeless man a scone for likes on Facebook.

Does anyone actually do this? Serious question.

Satts

I'll be doing a Jesus on it and turning water in to wine.

freshpopcorn

I find when charities say things like this it sort of turns me off them. My father gave money to a homeless charity and every so often they'd send him a letter looking for money but once they putting a little hand written sticky note in it saying remembers us in your will!

corner of hells

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I find when charities say things like this it sort of turns me off them. My father gave money to a homeless charity and every so often they'd send him a letter lucking for money but once they putting a little hand written sticky note in it saying remembers us in your will!

A couple of charities are moving towards legacy donations by asking people to donate something from their estate after they pass.
It's surprisingly popular with a number of individuals leaving thier houses to homeless charities.

freshpopcorn

corner of hells wrote: »

A couple of charities are moving towards legacy donations by asking people to donate something from their estate after they pass.
It's surprisingly popular with a number of individuals leaving thier houses to homeless charities.

I totally understand this. It was just the way the note was written didn't sound good!

Pithythefool

The government should have held onto it themselves, and then, very publicly, donated it to the charities.

The people who bought into the scam of Irish water deserve nothing but a hard lesson. They were willing to bend over and take it, and by doing so, drag the rest of us down with them.

Giving them the money back will mean they learn nothing, and then when the next scam is dreamed up by the government they will probably buy into that one too....

oh, wait...

Kivaro

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I find when charities say things like this it sort of turns me off them. My father gave money to a homeless charity and every so often they'd send him a letter lucking for money but once they putting a little hand written sticky note in it saying remembers us in your will!

Doesn't surprise me; they will do anything and say anything to squeeze money out of you. There must be tremendous pressure on charity staff/volunteers to get money in order to pay the inordinate salaries of the charity executives.

And I'm fed up with the constant barrage of charity commercials on television during this 'festive' season. One has to wonder whether the ad money could have been put to better use.

This initiative for people to donate water refunds just shows how detached these charities are from the real world. Of course RTE was all over this (as you might expect) and watching the interviews of charity heads/reps talking about the refunds; you get a sense that they feel entitled to get that money.
They have no consideration of people possibly needing the refunds themselves, and their methods of trying to make us feel guilty should not be rewarded.

I keep charity local and will never again contribute to any large charity organisation.

alan partridge aha

The government should have got revenue to collect the charges, a major bags up on their behalf. Us in rural areas payed thousands to get water in and dirty water out and pay everyday for its upkeep.
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suicide_circus

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The homeless charity industry receives over 120million a year in government funding

Enough to build houses for all the homeless since the crisis began

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Exactly. As the anti water people were foud of telling us, we already pay for water and the homeless in our taxes.

So why pay twice?

touts wrote: »

Not a chance. Many of the bleeding heart media attention seeking lefties now telling me that the money could be better spent on the homeless were the very people telling me not to pay the charges a few years ago and that water should be paid for out of general taxation. Well had we all paid for water like we should have then there would be more money in general taxation to help the homeless properly.

Hitman3000

alan partridge aha wrote:

The government should have got revenue to collect the charges, a major bags up on their behalf. Us in rural areas payed thousands to get water in and dirty water out and pay everyday for its upkeep. .

Ever wonder why Revenue wasn't involved? Think about it.

corner of hells

Hitman3000 wrote: »

alan partridge aha wrote:

The government should have got revenue to collect the charges, a major bags up on their behalf. Us in rural areas payed thousands to get water in and dirty water out and pay everyday for its upkeep. .

Ever wonder why Revenue wasn't involved? Think about it.

Oh Jesus, please don't.

anewme

corner of hells wrote: »

A couple of charities are moving towards legacy donations by asking people to donate something from their estate after they pass.
It's surprisingly popular with a number of individuals leaving thier houses to homeless charities.

I'm leaving something to charity when I go above or below! I've no children and a house and a few bob and my nieces will be crippled by tax by what I leave so can only give them so much. Am defo looking into charity options as no way am I leaving SFA to the taxman out of my after tax income.

Estate planning is so important and people don't pay enough attention to it!

Cody montana

My housemates have moved out since.
All for Silas.

wakka12

Why would you give to a charity? Hundreds of homeless people all around town with cups out. But a tenner in a few of their cups and you know its 100% going to charity then

OldMrBrennan83

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anewme

Patww79 wrote: »

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I intend hiring a Penthouse suite in The Bellagio Vegas with a private performance from Chippendales drinking vintage Champagne from my eighty year old wrinkled belly button, I'm going to burn it, but in case there is anything left, I'd like to help a genuine cause, no fat cat salaries, someone who works on the ground, they really still exist. And they are losing out because of the bad press.

jonon9

The only charity I be doing is buying food and blankets for the local animal rescue places. The amount of animals that get thrown out or abused is fcuking shocking.

corner of hells

anewme wrote: »

Patww79 wrote: »

I'd rather have it burnt than pay for a holiday or mistress for some charity CEO if I'd nobody else to leave it to.

I intend hiring a Penthouse suite in The Bellagio Vegas with a private performance from Chippendales drinking vintage Champagne from my eighty year old wrinkled belly button, I'm going to burn it, but in case there is anything left, I'd like to help a genuine cause, no fat cat salaries, someone who works on the ground, they really still exist. And they are losing out because of the bad press.

What's happening now is that if a charity particularly one that's a housing association involved with homelessness are left a property are assessing and housing people themselves and not involving local authorities directly.

anewme

corner of hells wrote: »

What's happening now is that if a charity particularly one that's a housing association involved with homelessness are left a property are assessing and housing people themselves and not involving local authorities directly.

I suppose 50 homeless dogs could live in my house and crap on the neighbours lawn!

corner of hells

anewme wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

What's happening now is that if a charity particularly one that's a housing association involved with homelessness are left a property are assessing and housing people themselves and not involving local authorities directly.

I suppose 50 homeless dogs could live in my house and crap on the neighbours lawn!

They could.

LynnGrace

anewme wrote: »

I intend hiring a Penthouse suite in The Bellagio Vegas with a private performance from Chippendales drinking vintage Champagne from my eighty year old wrinkled belly button, I'm going to burn it, but in case there is anything left, I'd like to help a genuine cause, no fat cat salaries, someone who works on the ground, they really still exist. And they are losing out because of the bad press.

Agreed. They do exist.

And as mentioned already upthread, buying food and giving it directly to volunteers who work with people in need, homeless or otherwise, is something I prefer to do, when I can.

A lot of charities have been badly damaged by what was allowed to happen in the likes of REHAB and Console. It will take a long time for that damage to be repaired.

Geuze

We spend 120m on homelessness in Dublin.

http://www.homelessdublin.ie/funding-homeless-services

Last year, 2016, we spent 96m.

In 2016 we spent 73m on emergency accomm in Dublin.

47m was paid to hotels.

I suggest we spend some of that on building houses instead.


This is public spending, and it excludes voluntary charity spending.

Geuze

Even if there were thousands of empty houses, many of the 200 or so rough sleepers in Dublin would still sleep rough.

So for them, shortage of houses is not the issue.

Alcohol, drugs, mental illness, chaotic lifestyles are the problems.


Now, more houses would help the thousands in emergency accomm.

anewme

Geuze wrote: »

Even if there were thousands of empty houses, many of the 200 or so rough sleepers in Dublin would still sleep rough.

So for them, shortage of houses is not the issue.

Alcohol, drugs, mental illness, chaotic lifestyles are the problems.


Now, more houses would help the thousands in emergency accomm.

I'd rather help the rough sleepers and get to the root of their issues, than contribute towards single parents or families with 3 or 4 children and no means to support themselves. I don't want to psy towards these irresponsible People who think homeless Gets you something's for nothing. The word 'homeless' is very much abused in my opinion.

snowflaker

snowflaker wrote: »

I gave €100 to a fund for a local baby born with cancer.

The water refund will go into my bank account.

I now have given more than the refund. The shave was tonight. I gave her €10 directly and she was so delighted - only 1 year old - I was in bits seeing her earlier.

Sephiroth_dude

freshpopcorn wrote: »

but once they putting a little hand written sticky note in it saying remembers us in your will!

The cheeky Feckers!

mikeysmith

I've decided to donate my water refund

I need lots of bottles and containers for the donation,if any has some going spare please

Beasty

nice_guy80 wrote: »

can't believe people actually paid that money

I actually overpaid in the hope it would help keep Irish Water afloat...

Any refund will go to a charitable cause with a non-paid hard working CEO. Hopefully DeV will be even harder working as a result!

deandean

I am going to donate my Irish water refund to boards.ie
That is a worthy cause. It is a genuine service to the people of Ireland. And no fat cat salaries (unfortunately for those involved in boards.ie) :P

fullstop

Why don't they tap up the people who didn't bother paying for water, look for donations off them?

Hitman3000

fullstop wrote:

Why don't they tap up the people who didn't bother paying for water, look for donations off them?

IW tried that, didn't work out too well.

Teyla Emmagan

No, it will nearly cover my Local Property Tax which is now due so I am keeping if for myself!

smurgen

I don't think ordinary joe soaps should be guilt tripped into paying it to charities.i didn't pay out of principle.some paid out of fear eveny though money was tight.those people deserve to spend their money on their own households.

Gwynplaine

Got mine today. Straight into the bank. Why would I give it away.

bottlebrush

are people receiving refunds yet? I haven't received mine yet. I have an empty money box on my mantlepiece with the slogan "charity begins at home' waiting for the refund with baited breath so I can treat myself before Christmas

dan1895

I booked a hotel I'm Madrid last week costing €122. Cheque from IW came in the post a couple of days later for €122. If that's not a sign I don't know what is.

ben.schlomo

Not a fcuking notion of giving it to charity, shtop will you OP.

pl4ichjgy17zwd

bottlebrush wrote: »

are people receiving refunds yet? I haven't received mine yet. I have an empty money box on my mantlepiece with the slogan "charity begins at home' waiting for the refund with baited breath so I can treat myself before Christmas

You can check when you'll get yours

https://www.water.ie/for-home/refunds/

MysticMonk

Give them nothing..i pay enough tax and then got bullied into paying this water charge...when i get it back i'm drinking it.

suicide_circus

MysticMonk wrote: »

Give them nothing..i pay enough tax and then got bullied into paying this water charge...when i get it back i'm drinking it.

Precisely - as has been pointed out, anyone who pays tax already contributes financially to people who are homeless.

MysticMonk

suicide_circus wrote: »

Precisely - as has been pointed out, anyone who pays tax already contributes financially to people who are homeless.

Charities will always make sure they pay their CEOs and directors and staff first and foremost.

My tax money is going towards homeless accommadation (how about that for an oxymoron) as well as the dole for them to spend on drink and drugs once they're there.

We must be mad...might as well be working for a bowl of soup and even that the "charaties" want to take off you.

PeterParker957

fullstop wrote: »

Why don't they tap up the people who didn't bother paying for water, look for donations off them?

Jesus no chance - give that **** Murphy another cross ???

CeilingFly

No

cos I had to have the septic tank emptied last week (€180 - once every two years)

It needed annual servicing too - €80

Pump was on the last legs - new pump = €210

So less the €130 water refund (water supply only), the total charge for me this year is a net €340.

RobertKK

I won't be getting a refund as I supply and pay for my own water supply...despite paying taxes...

topper75

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I'm giving it to my local Simon, wasn't expecting it, so not going to miss it.

It goes back into the economy anyway.

Because when CEO gets the new indoor pool in their house, materials will be bought at the local supplier's yard and local tilers will get wages, which they in turn will spend in local shops etc.

It's all good. Feeling very positive today.