Snow and Ice Warning : Thursday/Friday 7th/8th December

pad199207

Rodar08 wrote: »

I’m sorry but I’m confused.. so is this entire thread about the east of Ireland??

Usually with snow threads if it’s for the west and north it’s relatively quiet.

On the other hand if it’s for the east and especially the greater Dublin area it’s usually packed out and provides great entertainment well into the early hours!

thedeere

What are the models saying?

nacho libre

fraxinus1 wrote: »

Time to wrap this thread up folks. Flogging a dead horse at this stage.

Will you revise your position if some parts of the country see snow on Thursday night into Friday? Of course it all go pear shaped, but there does seem to be a window, albeit a small one, for snow in some parts of the country.
Granted it won't lead to anything more than modest accumulations at ground level.
With this in mind It has been said many times before, but we need to get some perspective on snowfall on this island, the amount of snow in 2010 has distorted our expectations, we only occasionally get significant accumulations at lower level in this country , and usually it's gone after a day or two. There were some exceptions in the 80's, but overall
significant snow events are rare here.

JanuarySnowstor

Awesome 00z gfs
Several chances from 2 slider lows over wknd of a serious dumping

kod87

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

Awesome 00z gfs
Several chances from 2 slider lows over wknd of a serious dumping

hmmm, but the same runs are not showing upper temps low enough for snow.

icesnowfrost

kod87 wrote: »

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

Awesome 00z gfs
Several chances from 2 slider lows over wknd of a serious dumping

hmmm, but the same runs are not showing upper temps low enough for snow

Are they not? What charts are u looking at 😊

kod87

icesnowfrost wrote: »

Are they not? What charts are u looking at ��

Just looking at gfs, has -3/-4 uppers over most of country around the timeframe for the slider lows ( and maybe -2 under the associated precipitation not to mention relatively high dam thickness at the same time ), as I said it would need to change drastically for any snowfall from that, even for high ground

Gaoth Laidir

The 00Z GFS has downgraded 850-1000 thicknesses compared to previous runs. Hovering around 1290 m now, compared to sub-1280 before. In Ireland, 1290 m has usually been the threshold for mixed precipitation, and that's more on the cards now. With such low 850 temperatures, this higher thickness is now probably due to its better handling of modification of the lowest layer, which it hadn't done well before this. Coastal locations may just see rain or a mix, but inland a better chance of snow early Friday morning.

munsterlegend

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

The 00Z GFS has downgraded 850-1000 thicknesses compared to previous runs. Hovering around 1290 m now, compared to sub-1280 before. In Ireland, 1290 m has usually been the threshold for mixed precipitation, and that's more on the cards now. With such low 850 temperatures, this higher thickness is now probably due to its better handling of modification of the lowest layer, which it hadn't done well before this. Coastal locations may just see rain or a mix, but inland a better chance of snow early Friday morning.

Thanks for your views. Would heavier precipitation bring a stronger chance of snow and have you any view of these slider lows or is it guesswork at this range?

ninebeanrows

The modification is surely just due to a different structure of the low than an inherient issue with the GFS?

KingdomRushed

I’m not sold on there being much snow anywhere apart from high ground on the basis of what I can see this morning on UKMO, GFS and ECM charts, though there may be rogue snowfalls in one place it will be rain in another. That’s in the next 3-4 days. However I feel we are in a very favorable position all round to see further chances for snow right through December. The models are continuing to take the jet stream south with ever more potent scenarios appearing in FI. So optimistic long term a bit more cynical short term

super_furry

thedeere wrote: »

What are the models saying?

Giselle reckons there'll be snow alright, but Naomi Campbell thinks it's just going to be frost.

Gaoth Laidir

Weathercheck wrote: »

The modification is surely just due to a different structure of the low than an inherient issue with the GFS?

The GFS had been showing lower dewpoints over the whole country compared to the other models, meaning it was underdoing the depth of the modified layer. It's highly unlikely we'll get the -4 values it was progging

Steve F

super_furry wrote: »

Giselle reckons there'll be snow alright, but Naomi Campbell thinks it's just going to be frost.

:D:D You are wasted on this thread.Head over to After Hours.We will welcome you with open arms with a legendary reply like that

Steve F

Controversial post coming up,look away if you are of a sensitive nature

Snow and ice can bugger off until 21st December
The weather can do what it likes then from 22nd Dec to 2nd of Jan as I don't have to drive to work on untreated Local roads
I would assume all the posters on here praying for Snow either :-
1.Don't work
2.Live within walking distance of work
3.Rely on public transport to get to work
4.Get paid if they can't get in due to weather conditions
Sorry to be such a sourpuss but surely you can see my point?.I can't get to work,I don't get paid :0(
(Skulks off back to after hours)

Nettle Soup

Steve F wrote: »

Controversial post coming up,look away if you are of a sensitive nature

Snow and ice can bugger off until 21st December
The weather can do what it likes then from 22nd Dec to 2nd of Jan as I don't have to drive to work on untreated Local roads
I would assume all the posters on here praying for Snow either :-
1.Don't work
2.Live within walking distance of work
3.Rely on public transport to get to work
4.Get paid if they can't get in due to weather conditions
Sorry to be such a sourpuss but surely you can see my point?.I can't get to work,I don't get paid :0(
(Skulks off back to after hours)

I love snow and I also love the challenge of driving in icy/snowy conditions. That might sound weird but it's true. I live in the country and I do have an old banger of a car which helps. The roads in urban areas always tend to be grand.
I remember hitting a few ditches and walls in 2010 at low speed. Great craic!

Macy0161

Work, 40km each way commute, driving, will have to take leave if I can't get in.... Praying for snow!

Steve F

Nettle Soup wrote: »

I love snow and I also love the challenge of driving in icy/snowy conditions. That might sound weird but it's true. I live in the country and I do have an old banger of a car which helps. The roads in urban areas always tend to be grand.
I remember hitting a few ditches and walls in 2010 at low speed. Great craic!

Steve F

Macy0161 wrote: »

Work, 40km each way commute, driving, will have to take leave if I can't get in.... Praying for snow!

JCX BXC

Steve F wrote: »

Controversial post coming up,look away if you are of a sensitive nature

Snow and ice can bugger off until 21st December
The weather can do what it likes then from 22nd Dec to 2nd of Jan as I don't have to drive to work on untreated Local roads
I would assume all the posters on here praying for Snow either :-
1.Don't work
2.Live within walking distance of work
3.Rely on public transport to get to work
4.Get paid if they can't get in due to weather conditions
Sorry to be such a sourpuss but surely you can see my point?.I can't get to work,I don't get paid :0(
(Skulks off back to after hours)

Personally, I don't actually care if the roads are in poor condition, considering how rare snow events are I'd happily take that downfall for the beauty that is snow!

Steve F

JCX BXC wrote: »

Personally, I don't actually care if the roads are in poor condition, considering how rare snow events are I'd happily take that downfall for the beauty that is snow!

Fair play.Good answer

Oneiric 3

I finding it a struggle to muster any excitement about this upcoming spell. Mixed prep with perhaps some watery smatherings by night. I've seen better set ups in May.

George Sunsnow

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

I finding it a struggle to muster any excitement about this upcoming spell. Mixed prep with perhaps some watery smatherings by night. I've seen better set ups in May.

Was thinking the same myself
Models of a Sunday have got to the stage that they’re almost not worth looking at for the following Thursday or Friday in terms of determining things re snow

squarecircles

Met eireann mention accumulations in their forecast

Yipiiiiii I'm so excited at the prospects of snow here across the west and Northwest,to watch the white gold falling,come on people in the east,cheer up, ,I'm sure you will see some snow too at some stage during the winter!!!

Choo choo all aboard the snow train across the west and Northwest WOOOPIIIIIIII....

pistolpetes11

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

I finding it a struggle to muster any excitement about this upcoming spell. Mixed prep with perhaps some watery smatherings by night. I've seen better set ups in May.

After the last few winters at least it’s a taste of something seasonal , I had very very few ground frosts last season ,already had a few to end autumn off and hopefully the NH pattern delivers at some stage this winter .

Oasis1974

JCX BXC wrote: »

Personally, I don't actually care if the roads are in poor condition, considering how rare snow events are I'd happily take that downfall for the beauty that is snow!

People actually worry about driving conditions my friend. Only penguins like snow not any sane minded human being. People lose there lives in poor driving conditions hate to have another fatality on the road even while experiencing the snow buzz :rolleyes:

JCX BXC

Oasis1974 wrote: »

People actually worry about driving conditions my friend. Only penguins like snow not any sane minded human being. People lose there lives in poor driving conditions hate to have another fatality on the road even while experiencing the snow buzz :rolleyes:

Oh I'm sorry, I'll just stop the snow then considering that I personally control the weather.

Ridiculous comment.

Steve F

JCX BXC wrote: »

Oh I'm sorry, I'll just stop the snow then considering that I personally control the weather.

Ridiculous comment.

Oh no,what did I start?:(

JCX BXC

Steve F wrote: »

Oh no,what did I start?:(

Ah ya can't help stupid

cherryghost

Best I can find from some mediocre charts