Should my friend make a complaint ?

OMW

Hi everyone.

My friend had domestic incident on friday night.
Basically me and him were having few drinks in his house (his room).
Until another guy that shares house camedown and hit my friend twice in the face for making so much noise - (we were watching notorius documentary and wasant loud at all). Lad that hit my friend in the face was also drinking elsewhere earlier that night so he was drunk too.

Anyway I can understand where he was coming from but hitting someone in the face is not right.
We had garda on the scene (i know its a bit too much but my friend was really upset).
Gardas calmed down both parties involved and said they will ring my friend next day when he sobers up. (they never did tho)

I know it sounds ridicolous to go see gards and make complaint for getting couple slaps for making too much noise, but as far as I know the other lad has never apologised and keeps intimidating my friend that shares same house.

What he should do?

Thanks

endacl

Move?

Atlantic Dawn

Perhaps get a UFC cage fitted in the living room for future events, will help increase the peace through sport.

OMW

endacl wrote: »

Move?

Yes my friends is looking for a place to move to.

DivingDuck

He can either move or make a complaint.

Sharing a house with someone you've made a complaint against to the police doesn't really sound like enjoyable living conditions?

andekwarhola

In my admittedly and thankfully brief experience of house sharing, when I see a claim that somebody wasn't making that much noise drinking with their mates at XAM, they usually really were.

The Backwards Man

Notorious documentary?

Death On The Rock?

jamesbere

Sweet chin music will sort him out

stevek93

Tell your friend to contact the landlord. Advise landlord you are seeking legal advise

OMW

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Perhaps get a UFC cage fitted in the living room for future events, will help increase the peace through sport.

Domestic incidents have always been very random and funny I get it.
I just feel sorry for my friend that he had to take few punches.

MissMayo

They need to make a complaint to the landlord for the other tenants anti-social behaviour and intimidation. Make sure that it is in writing and keep a copy. If nothing satisfactory comes off it then they can consider taking the landlord to the RTB.

Directly from Thresholds site regarding anti-social behaviour -

"This could be:

A)Committing an offence which is reasonably likely to affect directly the well-being of others.

B)Engaging in behaviour that causes or could cause fear, danger, injury, damage or loss to any person living, working or otherwise in the dwelling or its vicinity."

https://www.threshold.ie/advice/dealing-with-problems-during-your-tenancy/antisocial-behaviour-and-noise-issues/

The other tenant should have done the above if he believed the was a noise issue rather than punching your friend.

OMW

MissMayo wrote: »

They need to make a complaint to the landlord for the other tenants anti-social behaviour and intimidation. Make sure that it is in writing and keep a copy. If nothing satisfactory comes off it then they can consider taking the landlord to the RTB.

Directly from Thresholds site regarding anti-social behaviour -

"This could be:

A)Committing an offence which is reasonably likely to affect directly the well-being of others.

B)Engaging in behaviour that causes or could cause fear, danger, injury, damage or loss to any person living, working or otherwise in the dwelling or its vicinity."



The other tenant should have done the above if he believed the was a noise issue rather than punching your friend.

So what are my friends options?
Is it worthwhile going trough all that or just leave it?

Thanks

splinter65

Best thing to do is find somewhere else to live ASAP. Either way this is not going to be a happy house to live in from now on, and could get quite dangerous.

OMW

splinter65 wrote: »

Best thing to do is find somewhere else to live ASAP. Either way this is not going to be a happy house to live in from now on, and could get quite dangerous.

What Im trying to find out for him is could he press charges for assault.
Would he get anything out of it?

splinter65

OMW wrote: »

What Im trying to find out for him is could he press charges for assault.
Would he get anything out of it?

Victims of assault don’t “press charges” in Ireland.
He goes to Garda and makes a formal complaint. The Garda then makes a report and the report may be sent to the DPP.
If the DPP thinks that the incident was serious enough and that there is enough evidence to possibly secure a conviction then your friends assailant will be arrested and charged .
This all takes a considerable amount of time.
What do you mean would he get anything out of it? What has it cost him so far?

OMW

OMW wrote: »

Until another guy that shares house camedown and hit my friend twice in the face for making so much noise

Press the matter.

Anyone who goes straight for punching into the face for noise? No no no no, next time he may not need a reason, next time your friend may not be ready, next time he may get a broken jaw or eye socket. What the other guy did is waaaaaaaay over the line.

DivingDuck

MissMayo wrote: »

They need to make a complaint to the landlord for the other tenants anti-social behaviour and intimidation.

If I was at the house-share stage of life and wasn't on the paperwork for utility bills, I would just move in this scenario.

Simply put, if I'd gotten them kicked out of their accommodations, I wouldn't feel safe living at an address known to the sort of person who would come downstairs and punch someone because they had the TV on too loudly.

Someone who would behave like that is obviously not afraid to be on the wrong side of the law, so if I thought they had a grudge against me, I'd want to be living somewhere unfamiliar to them.

I would make the landlord aware of the situation, quietly and privately, as I was leaving, and ask that he not disclose that I'd told him what happened. Cowardly? Sure, but better safe than sorry.

Was the housemate working in the morning?

rafatoni

Your mate should just deck him next time.

Especially after you were watching notorious. He will do nothing.

thedeere

Extract or blast urine. Use whatever resources you have had hand.

Fr_Dougal

Shenanigans.

1/10

Tylerdurex

If someone did that to me he's be getting a few slaps and more back

Mr.Crinklewood

I sing. I sing. I sing

RobbingBandit

Steel cage match NO HOLDS BARRRRRRRRRED

kaymin

OMW wrote: »

Basically me and him were having few drinks in his house (his room).
Until another guy that shares house camedown and hit my friend twice in the face for making so much noise

Can you fill us in what happened between him coming down and the fisticuffs? No provocation other than the tv on? :cool:

Roger Hassenforder

OMW wrote: »

What Im trying to find out for him is could he press charges for assault.
Would he get anything out of it?

Would he get some form of satisfaction or compensation is it?

And what does your friend want out of this?

OMW

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Would he get some form of satisfaction or compensation is it?

And what does your friend want out of this?

He just wants revenge for being punched i think. Hes not looking for claim or anything just thinks its not right. He lived in this house prior that other man and now being bullied out of the house.

OMW

kaymin wrote: »

Can you fill us in what happened between him coming down and the fisticuffs? No provocation other than the tv on? :cool:

After first hit he took his glasses off and said go on hit another time or something like that.
I didnt want to interfere unless it was full on fight

the_syco

OMW wrote: »

Hi everyone.

My friend had domestic incident on friday night.
Basically me and him were having few drinks in his house (his room).
Until another guy that shares house camedown and hit my friend twice in the face for making so much noise - (we were watching notorius documentary and wasant loud at all). Lad that hit my friend in the face was also drinking elsewhere earlier that night so he was drunk too.

And you weren't shouting at the TV?

OMW

Deleted User wrote: »

Was the housemate working in the morning?

No, as I mentioned he was on the lash somewhere else

kaymin

OMW wrote: »

After first hit he took his glasses off and said go on hit another time or something like that.
I didnt want to interfere unless it was full on fight

Ok, but what happened between him coming down and just before the first hit?

OMW

kaymin wrote: »

Ok, but what happened between him coming down and just before the first hit?

He knocked the door really loudly and shouted to open it, so my friend opened it. He then went for his computer to turn it off and my friend asked what r u at ect. and then he hit him

wakka12

stevek93 wrote: »

Tell your friend to contact the landlord. Advise landlord you are seeking legal advise

Poor landlord getting caught up in something that should have nothing to do with him

0ph0rce0

Two of you go in and beat the **** out of him and tell him he's moving.

Get Real

I personally wouldn't make an official complaint. It happened in the house, there's no cctv, and it could be possible that the house mate would make a complaint in return ( an untrue one out of maliciousness/revenge)

Then it's more or less a he said, he said scenario. In which case it is anyway, despite the fact you'd be a witness, depends on how good the other guy explains his "side" of the story.

If the guy has never been in trouble before, it probably won't be worth going through it all for what the judge will give him

hatrickpatrick

He should definitely make a complaint to the Gardai and also to the landlord.

Facepalm @ all the "move out" comments while we're in the middle of a rental hyperinflation crisis...

hatrickpatrick

wakka12 wrote: »

Poor landlord getting caught up in something that should have nothing to do with him

Maybe this is just me, but if I owned a property that was being rented and one of my tenants violently assaulted another tenant, I'd want to know about it ASAP so I could get the f*ck rid of them. I'd imagine most landlords wouldn't want a scumbag living in their property...

Mrs OBumble

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Maybe this is just me, but if I owned a property that was being rented and one of my tenants violently assaulted another tenant, I'd want to know about it ASAP so I could get the f*ck rid of them. I'd imagine most landlords wouldn't want a scumbag living in their property...

And given that there were no sober witnesses, how would you have any idea what the f*** actually went on.

The LL is in an impossible situation if s/he gets dragged into this situation.

OP - who chose the other guy as a tenant, the LL, your friend or someone else? Who does your friend hand his rent to? Who has signed the lease?

andekwarhola

Wouldn't bother giving the landlord a headache over it.

If I had sharing tenants and they came to me with some big unsubstantiated domestic mess (which sounded like it could well escalate further) like this, I'd just immediately start thinking of a legal way to get them all out.

Contrary to what people are saying here, the landlord isn't going to be able to ascertain who's right or wrong and will just think, 'drinking, noise, fights'.

justfillmein

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Facepalm @ all the "move out" comments while we're in the middle of a rental hyperinflation crisis...

of course there is a rental crisis, but there is no way they can live together after what happened.

the landlord isn't getting dragged into anything, they are being informed of the behaviour of one of their tenants towards another paying tenant.
i'm sure they would want to know.

also i certainly wouldn't want to live in that house if the other man has to leave. you don't know where he will move on to, but he'll know where you live

riffmongous

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

And given that there were no sober witnesses, how would you have any idea what the f*** actually went on.

The LL is in an impossible situation if s/he gets dragged into this situation.

OP - who chose the other guy as a tenant, the LL, your friend or someone else? Who does your friend hand his rent to? Who has signed the lease?

Well if the Guards were called there should be some record

andekwarhola

riffmongous wrote: »

Well if the Guards were called there should be some record

The Gardai seem pretty uninterested from the OP account, which would point to the fact that nobody was injured, there's completely no evidence and perhaps that they sensed at the time that maybe there was two sides to it.

Are Am Eye

never complain, never explain.

OMW

andekwarhola wrote:

The Gardai seem pretty uninterested from the OP account, which would point to the fact that nobody was injured, there's completely no evidence and perhaps that they sensed at the time that maybe there was two sides to it.

I agree with you here. We were making noise my friend getting 2 slaps for it gards have better things to do. Since my friend is still not over it he will report that the lad that hit him drives his car under fake driving license and bogus insurance anonymously. I hope it makes him feel better

OMW

Also Landlord is aware of the situation and said "one more time this happens all of yas gonna have to move out."

Autochange

Why didnt you help your friend out? 2 of you v 1 of him.

screamer

Life's too short....move...
And watch your documentaries more quietly in the next place.

screamer

OMW wrote: »

I agree with you here. We were making noise my friend getting 2 slaps for it gards have better things to do. Since my friend is still not over it he will report that the lad that hit him drives his car under fake driving license and bogus insurance anonymously. I hope it makes him feel better

Pure childishness..... Your friend sounds like a joy to share a house with.

justfillmein

screamer wrote: »

Pure childishness..... Your friend sounds like a joy to share a house with.

is that childish?


his friend was punched in the face by someone that shares with him.

it's a shared house not his own home to be throwing his weight around like that.

now it seems he's a bit more dodgy.

i think it shows the character of the other tenant and that he has no regard for anyone.

screamer

justfillmein wrote: »

is that childish?


his friend was punched in the face by someone that shares with him.

it's a shared house not his own home to be throwing his weight around like that.

now it seems he's a bit more dodgy.

i think it shows the character of the other tenant and that he has no regard for anyone.

So...move as a load of people have said already. TBH sounds like it's a matter of when the landlord turfs them all out and I'd jump and have somewhere else lined up than be pushed and get no references. There are 2 sides to every story and we're only getting one here.

Kimbot

MOD After Hours isnt the place for this type of thread OP, there are other sections on boards that would be a better fit for your questions.