Acid attack on Dublin woman

dd972

This has increased exponentially in sh!t parts of London, yuppies who pay £600k plus to live in places like Forest Gate, Dalston, Clapton or Woolwich need their heads seeing to, wouldn't go to these dumps in the daytime.

Hopefully this is a one off and the victim isn't blinded and their injuries are treatable, there should be 15 to 20 year sentences for this, no messing.

tomwaterford

smurgen wrote: »

Blinding someone intentionally is perversely savage.

Tbh if someone is good enough to go out and blind someone deliberately,

Then they deserve all whats coming to them tbh...I have no issue here

The_Kew_Tour

Heard on Newstalk that it maybe related to a love Triangle.

Collie D

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Heard on Newstalk that it maybe related to a love Triangle.

Speculation that the attacker was hired by another woman.

If true this somehow makes it worse in my opinion. That more than one person could be involved in something so maliciously premeditated.

seenitall

Collie D wrote: »

Speculation that the attacker was hired by another woman.

If true this somehow makes it worse in my opinion. That more than one person could be involved in something so maliciously premeditated.

If true, it is very similar to the Katie Piper case, where a third "person" (using the word very loosely, obviously) was hired to throw acid on her at the bidding of her rapist ex.

What a disgusting, terrifying, heartbreaking thing to read about, let alone go through. I really hope the damage done is as little as possible. And I hope to fcuk we don't see more of this in Ireland. Words just fail me.

Help!!!!

So I got a lot of abuse from certain posters on here for saying that some prisoners get the dole while in prison

Well I'm sure some of ye will say this article is not true or whatever but there are plenty more articles online about it

https://extra.ie/news/irish-news/criminals-are-still-getting-dole-in-prison

Help!!!!

Chrongen wrote: »

What have liberals got to do with this or ANYTHING?

You brought it up. You also promoted violent, extra-judicial retribution.

Where did you mention violent vigilantism? Read back. If a scumbag is carrying a bottle of acid for some sickening reasons then you recommended he be forced to drink it.

I'd prefer the guy be jailed and post-haste. But then Are you going to accost a pharmacist bringing Hydrochloric acide from one lab to another? Are you going to ram it down his or her throat? You don't really think before you set fire to witches, do you?

What has being stopped and searched got to do with ANY of this?

Like I said, you brought it up, not me. Do you want everybody searched on a random basis, yourself included? And your granny? Or is it just brown folk.

Ah maybe read back yourself, another poster said maybe the police should make them drink the bottles of water they carry, I agreed it might solve the problem
Rather than jumping on one post & taking it out of context maybe read the posts before so you can see what the conversation is about.
I have no problems with stop & search. It has happened to me a number of times & takes about a minute if you dont act the bollix. & before you start making out its about race go back & read the posts again

corner of hells

Help!!!! wrote: »

So I got a lot of abuse from certain posters on here for saying that some prisoners get the dole while in prison

Well I'm sure some of ye will say this article is not true or whatever but there are plenty more articles online about it

https://extra.ie/news/irish-news/criminals-are-still-getting-dole-in-prison

Your post gave the impression that it was normal to receive benefit in prison.
Another person confirmed the details of the article you posted earlier saying prisoners received a
payment either fraudulently or by error.

A second poster pointed out to you that he was prisoner officer and explained it's fraudulent .I work with ex prisoners myself and most will try anything to keep their claim going.

Nowadays its more difficult with facial recognition technology.

What each poster was trying to say is that legally you cannot make a welfare claim from the state while in prison.

Omackeral

Help!!!! wrote: »

So I got a lot of abuse from certain posters on here for saying that some prisoners get the dole while in prison

Well I'm sure some of ye will say this article is not true or whatever but there are plenty more articles online about it

https://extra.ie/news/irish-news/criminals-are-still-getting-dole-in-prison

Did you read the article? It's fraudulent or erroneous if they get it. You're making out as if it's an entitlement they get.

"A prison source said: ‘When someone is committed to jail, this information is provided to the Department within a week. It is then up to the Department to put a stop to their social welfare payment immediately. Obviously, there is a delay sometimes and payments are made when they should have been stopped."

Help!!!!

corner of hells wrote: »

Your post gave the impression that it was normal to receive benefit in prison.
Another person confirmed the details of the article you posted earlier saying prisoners received a
payment either fraudulently or by error.

A second poster pointed out to you that he was prisoner officer and explained it's fraudulent .I work with ex prisoners myself and most will try anything to keep their claim going.

Nowadays its more difficult with facial recognition technology.

What each poster was trying to say is that legally you cannot make a welfare claim from the state while in prison.

Yes & I pointed out that to a repeat offender they are not going to care & it was confirmed by a guard but was called a liar, was making it up etc
Its usually the same people on here that if they disagree they just name call & try to stop the conversation rather than trying to listen & maybe learn something

dav3

Help!!!! wrote: »

So I got a lot of abuse from certain posters on here for saying that some prisoners get the dole while in prison

Well I'm sure some of ye will say this article is not true or whatever but there are plenty more articles online about it

https://extra.ie/news/irish-news/criminals-are-still-getting-dole-in-prison

Yes, that's what this thread is about. Your fragile ego.

To hell with this woman.

Help!!!!

Omackeral wrote: »

Did you read the article? It's fraudulent or erroneous if they get it. You're making out as if it's an entitlement they get.

"A prison source said: ‘When someone is committed to jail, this information is provided to the Department within a week. It is then up to the Department to put a stop to their social welfare payment immediately. Obviously, there is a delay sometimes and payments are made when they should have been stopped."

I never made out that they were entitled to it. I had heard it before & got it confirmed by a guard that some people get their dole while still inside. I said in the OP that it should be stopped & paid to the prison for their upkeep

Omackeral

Help!!!! wrote: »

And?? You really think a repeat offender cares about going back in because he illegally got his dole? If it is illegally though

You seemed to be insinuating it's legal here.

corner of hells

Help!!!! wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

Your post gave the impression that it was normal to receive benefit in prison.
Another person confirmed the details of the article you posted earlier saying prisoners received a
payment either fraudulently or by error.

A second poster pointed out to you that he was prisoner officer and explained it's fraudulent .I work with ex prisoners myself and most will try anything to keep their claim going.

Nowadays its more difficult with facial recognition technology.

What each poster was trying to say is that legally you cannot make a welfare claim from the state while in prison.

Yes & I pointed out that to a repeat offender they are not going to care & it was confirmed by a guard but was called a liar, was making it up etc
Its usually the same people on here that if they disagree they just name call & try to stop the conversation rather than trying to listen & maybe learn something

To be honest with you I find a lot of your posts daft and your post about claims in prison was vague I.e. a guard confirmed it, so it's difficult to take on board what you're saying.

I'm not looking back through 18 pages of posts but your comment about the repeat offender not caring seems new .

Mr. CooL ICE

Help!!!! wrote: »

I never made out that they were entitled to it. I had heard it before & got it confirmed by a guard that some people get their dole while still inside. I said in the OP that it should be stopped & paid to the prison for their upkeep

Mod: You've shown yourself to be incapable of staying anything close to on topic.

Don't post in this thread again.

Chrongen

BowSideChamp wrote: »

Rape is handed down as punishment by religious courts in other cultures and women are stoned to death for adultery. Yes it is cultural.

Do you have a link for this?

homerjay2005

thoughts go out to the victim, this in my opinion is as bad as it gets.

the judge needs to set an example and give the criminal who did this, 25 years in jail.

splinter65

Chrongen wrote: »

Do you have a link for this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/4653914/naked-woman-raped-beheaded-congo-rebels-drank-blood/amp/

ohnonotgmail

splinter65 wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/4653914/naked-woman-raped-beheaded-congo-rebels-drank-blood/amp/

where is the religious element to this?

Stonedpilot

Do people realize the main supsect now is another woman?.

The misandry loving folk with be furious.

Chrongen

splinter65 wrote: »

Doctors who presumably took the Hippocrates oath, possibly trained outside Iran preparing to blind someone with acid tells you all you need to know about medieval Iran .
Place needs to be nuked.

And THEY'RE the savages? You find it barbaric to intentionally blind someone yet have no problem in immolating millions of people to death.

What a fcking hypocrite.

splinter65

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

where is the religious element to this?

The rebel leader decided that the woman had deliberately fed them fish in the meal and the fish had broken the magic spell (angered the spirits that were protecting them etc). Voodoo, if you will. Not a religion per se ( could be argued though) but a “belief system” for millions none the less.

ohnonotgmail

splinter65 wrote: »

The rebel leader decided that the woman had deliberately fed them fish in the meal and the fish had broken the magic spell (angered the spirits that were protecting them etc). Voodoo, if you will. Not a religion per se ( could be argued though) but a “belief system” for millions none the less.

yeah i dont think voodoo is quite what people are thinking of here when they refer to religion. any relevant examples?

splinter65

Chrongen wrote: »

And THEY'RE the savages? You find it barbaric to intentionally blind someone yet have no problem in immolating millions of people to death.

What a fcking hypocrite.

Removing the u from the abuse doesn’t make you any less abusive you know.
This country stones rape victims to death.
By order of court.
Doctors who have lived abroad return and agree to all manner of barbarism on fellow citizens.
We can do without them.

emo72

splinter65 wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/4653914/naked-woman-raped-beheaded-congo-rebels-drank-blood/amp/

Jaysus, don't read that. That's just savage.We all need to feck off in space ships and nuke the planet from orbit.

splinter65

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

yeah i dont think voodoo is quite what people are thinking of here when they refer to religion. any relevant examples?

...er, yeah, voodoo is a belief system followed by millions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo

ohnonotgmail

splinter65 wrote: »

...er, yeah, voodoo is a belief system followed by millions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo

and completely irrelevant to this thread.

Chrongen

splinter65 wrote: »

Removing the u from the abuse doesn’t make you any less abusive you know.
This country stones rape victims to death.
By order of court.
Doctors who have lived abroad return and agree to all manner of barbarism on fellow citizens.
We can do without them.

WE?

Have you been to the country? I have.
Maybe you should go and find out a bit about the place before you spew out rubbish one would normally hear in a low-income bar.

corner of hells

splinter65 wrote: »

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

where is the religious element to this?

The rebel leader decided that the woman had deliberately fed them fish in the meal and the fish had broken the magic spell (angered the spirits that were protecting them etc). Voodoo, if you will. Not a religion per se ( could be argued though) but a “belief system” for millions none the less.

I think you should have a read up about voodoo before posting crap like that.

Noo

emo72 wrote: »

Jaysus, don't read that. That's just savage.We all need to feck off in space ships and nuke the planet from orbit.

Jesus christ!!! Your comment made me just curious enough to read it, im sorry i did. Heed his warning.

splinter65

emo72 wrote: »

Jaysus, don't read that. That's just savage.We all need to feck off in space ships and nuke the planet from orbit.

From the safety of their cosy Irish sitting rooms posters terribly keen on multiculturalism like to pretend that these things just don’t happen. It’s all lies.

Rory28

Chrongen wrote: »

WE?

Have you been to the country? I have.
Maybe you should go and find out a bit about the place before you spew out rubbish one would normally hear in a low-income bar.

Are you saying that stuff doesnt happen?

Chrongen

splinter65 wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/4653914/naked-woman-raped-beheaded-congo-rebels-drank-blood/amp/

That's not a religious court, that's a mob who are on the lunatic fringe.

Where/when has a court (religious or otherwise) handed down rape as a punishment?

The OP tried to hitch this allegation to the stoning for adultery that has occurred in Saudi Arabia and cynically tried to associate Islamic Law with the use of rape as a legitimate court mandate punishment. A shabby attempt to say the least.

B0jangles

splinter65 wrote: »

Removing the u from the abuse doesn’t make you any less abusive you know.
This country stones rape victims to death.
By order of court.
Doctors who have lived abroad return and agree to all manner of barbarism on fellow citizens.
We can do without them.

Stones, glass houses etc.,

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/12/symphysiotomy-irelands-brutal-alternative-to-caesareans

Couple of sample comments:



Should we be nuked too?

jmayo

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Maybe not all of Sharia Law is a bad thing in cases such as this....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/03/iran-blind-acid-attack-woman-retribution-punishment/

Actually I am no fan of sharia law (as anyone who knows my posting history can testify) but in a way this is justice of sorts for someone who carried out such a heinous crime.
In Ireland we can expect the perp to get 10 odd years in jail and if they admit their guilt and are half way good in prison they can be out in half that time.
Meanwhile the poor victim has to live in sheer hell for the rest of their life.

And yes we do have a problem with immigrants carrying out some awful crimes especially on women.
But that is nothing to do with this incident as far as we know.
The victim is the immigrant, nobody knows where the assailant(s) are from.

And yes acid attacks on women is something that entered this part of the world from some certain parts of the world, but scumbags in this part of the world are often quite willing to adopt foreign practices.

Actually the more I think of the plight of this poor women the more I bloody agree with the Iranians.

Chrongen

splinter65 wrote: »

From the safety of their cosy Irish sitting rooms posters terribly keen on multiculturalism like to pretend that these things just don’t happen. It’s all lies.

That's right folks, don't let any darkies in from the African continent or they'll all start forcing people to engage in public incest before beheading them.

splinter65

corner of hells wrote: »

I think you should have a read up about voodoo before posting crap like that.

Sure. No such thing as voodoo. Fake news.

Collie D

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Do people realize the main supsect now is another woman?.

The misandry loving folk with be furious.

Yeah, there were loads of them in here blaming all men for what happened. Oh wait...no, they weren't

splinter65

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and completely irrelevant to this thread.

Because I’ve shown it’s a religion it’s now irrelevant.

corner of hells

Chrongen wrote: »

splinter65 wrote: »

From the safety of their cosy Irish sitting rooms posters terribly keen on multiculturalism like to pretend that these things just don’t happen. It’s all lies.

That's right folks, don't let any darkies in from the African continent or they'll all start forcing people to engage in public incest before beheading them.

My wife is multicultural, she's of Eastern European Jewish descent but also has some darkie blood in her.
She's deadly with a machete.

corner of hells

splinter65 wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

I think you should have a read up about voodoo before posting crap like that.

Sure. No such thing as voodoo. Fake news.

No I really do think you should read up on the history of voodoo.

splinter65

Chrongen wrote: »

WE?

Have you been to the country? I have.
Maybe you should go and find out a bit about the place before you spew out rubbish one would normally hear in a low-income bar.

Iran. A fantastic place to live as long as your not white a Christian a woman gay or disabled. Top class place.

ohnonotgmail

splinter65 wrote: »

Because I’ve shown it’s a religion it’s now irrelevant.

what relevance does voodoo have to this acid attack?

splinter65

Chrongen wrote: »

That's right folks, don't let any darkies in from the African continent or they'll all start forcing people to engage in public incest before beheading them.

Are you seriously using the expression “darkies” in 2017.
Are you Alf Garnett?

Rory28

splinter65 wrote: »

Iran. A fantastic place to live as long as your not white a Christian a woman gay or disabled. Top class place.

This I dont understand. We have to be tolerant of their intolerance. As a gay guy its in my best interest to be suspicious of Islam.

Chrongen

Rory28 wrote: »

Are you saying that stuff doesnt happen?

There has been a moratorium on ALL stoning deaths in Iran since 2002. Prior to that there have been reports by Amnesty International and HRW that some executions by stoning have occurred in far-flung tribal areas though they couldn't provide any sources or evidence.
It's akin to lynching being carried out in redneck parts of the US with the connivance of the local good 'old boy sherriff.

Stoning is more common in Saudi Arabia, The united Arab Emirates and Nigeria than in Iran. Perhaps those countries should be "nuked" first?

Chrongen

splinter65 wrote: »

Are you seriously using the expression “darkies” in 2017.
Are you Alf Garnett?

You're just clueless aren't you? Don't know why I bother responding to you.

Kimbot

Rory28 wrote: »

This I dont understand. We have to be tolerant of their intolerance. As a gay guy its in my best interest to be suspicious of Islam.

What has Islam got to do with this thread?

Chrongen

splinter65 wrote: »

Iran. A fantastic place to live as long as your not white a Christian a woman gay or disabled. Top class place.

Women in Iran are amongst the most liberated in the entire region with the highest representation in university, outnumbering males.


You know what....fuck this. This discussion is about a woman who suffered an acid attack. I'm not going to be drawn into a blind argument about a society with someone who hasn't a clue what they're talking about.

Skylinehead

Mod: Get this thread on topic or it's gone, possibly with users too. Last warning.