Kirwin Action Group

schemingbohemia

Zzippy wrote: »

Ross Hill? Are you talking about the woefully inadequate train service from Oranmore? If we're going to provide real alternatives to get people out of cars and onto public transport it needs to be quicker, cheaper and more efficient than sitting in traffic. The train service is none of those things.

Can you drive from Oranmore to Ceannt in less than 10 minutes? I thought there was a traffic issue in Galway - are you on a hoverboard?

How cheap would that service need to be for you to use it?

xckjoo

Zzippy wrote: »

Ross Hill? Are you talking about the woefully inadequate train service from Oranmore? If we're going to provide real alternatives to get people out of cars and onto public transport it needs to be quicker, cheaper and more efficient than sitting in traffic. The train service is none of those things.

There's a bit of a chicken and egg situation with public transport. People don't take it cause it's crap and it's crap because people don't take it. I think they should just convert large parts of the existing road structure to bus and cycle lanes and let people decide between 20min bus trip or 1hr car trip in traffic, but I'm probably in the minority with this opinion. I think most people would go nuts if we replaced existing lanes with bus lanes. Sure the problem is all the other people on the road, not ourselves

Zzippy

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Can you drive from Oranmore to Ceannt in less than 10 minutes? I thought there was a traffic issue in Galway - are you on a hoverboard?

How cheap would that service need to be for you to use it?

Fair point, but how often does the train run at rush hour? The first train is not until 0800, with another one at 0828. That's no use to someone who has to be in work at 8, as many people do. A single ticket is €5.95, return €8.85. That's not cheap. Public transport needs to be cheap, frequent and reliable to provide a realistic alternative. As long as the government declines to subsidise public transport, people will continue to favour their cars. AFAIK Irish public subsidy to public transport is one of the lowest in Europe.

schemingbohemia

Could be more journeys for sure. Price is less than 5.95 if you buy online. If you get a taxsaver ticket (which if you're going to commute regularly is a no-brainer) it's cheap as chips - it would €1290 which if you're on the higher rate would cost you just over a tenner a week.

what_traffic

Zzippy wrote: »

Ross Hill? Are you talking about the woefully inadequate train service from Oranmore? If we're going to provide real alternatives to get people out of cars and onto public transport it needs to be quicker, cheaper and more efficient than sitting in traffic. The train service is none of those things.

No I am talking about the existing road infrastructure here. It is a fact that you have not one, but two dual carraigeways from Oranmore side towards the City + the OLD Dublin Road (the Coast Road) and yet still people will rat run through Ross Hill at peak car traffic times to avoid using all the these roads.

biko

Any more posts will only be about the topic at hand - protesters protesting possible increase traffic through Menlo, Tirellan, and Ballinfoile.

No other area may be discussed as it only the dilutes the efforts of the protesters with general complaints and bickering.

what_traffic

The Oral Hearing taking place in the Maldron Hotel until Thursday I believe.
Anybody able to attend it?

biko

http://www.pleanala.ie/lists/oralhearings.htm

Galway City Council
302533: Bothar na dTreabh, Kirwan Roundabout upgrade, Galway City
Case Type: Compulsory Acquisition - Housing Act (Board Reference: PL61.302533)
Description: Galway City Council CPO - Multi Modal improvement scheme
Date lodged: 06/09/2018
Decide By: 26/02/2019
location: Maldron Hotel Sandy Road, Galway
Date: 10:00, 17/01/2019

what_traffic

https://connachttribune.ie/residents-fear-of-being-land-locked-by-roundabout-removal-101/

Don't get the landlocked idea? Has anybody seen detailed plans for the proposal?

The decision has been made, the CPO's are going ahead

https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/an-bord-pleanala-confirms-compulsory-purchase-order-for-kirwan-roundabout-upgrade/

In making its decision, An Bord Pleanala considered a number of areas including the city development plan, the community need, the overall design and the submissions received.

It stated that the permanent and temporary acquisition of the lands in question and the extinguishment of the public right of way is necessary and the objections cannot be sustained having regard to the said necessity.

what_traffic

Deleted User wrote: »

In making its decision, An Bord Pleanala considered a number of areas including the city development plan, the community need, the overall design and the submissions received.

Wonder when it will get listed here? Next week?
http://www.pleanala.ie/lists/2019/decided/index.htm

what_traffic

what_traffic wrote: »

Wonder when it will get listed here? Next week?
http://www.pleanala.ie/lists/2019/decided/index.htm

Not sure, not overly familiar with abp timelines

what_traffic

what_traffic wrote: »

Wonder when it will get listed here? Next week?
http://www.pleanala.ie/lists/2019/decided/index.htm

Here its is:
http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/302533.htm

302533: Bóthar na dTreabh, Kirwan Roundabout upgrade, Galway City ()