Manchester United Thread..The Final Chapter of 17? (MOD WARNINGS IN OP)

Mitch Connor

Adamocovic wrote: »

As much as I love Kane and I know many here since he first started reaking out have been calling for us to make the move I'm not sold that it's the case the papers are saying.

They are paraphrasing, it would seem, to make the statement more impactful and blunt.

Kane did say:


That to me just comes across as he meant as long as the club keeps showing the ambition and direction of progress, not the "Spurs may start winning trophies if I am to stay" that papers are selling. He's contracted until 2022, and though he said he's unaware of any negotiations Spurs will surely increase his £100'000 a week salary to keep him happy.

I suppose this is the point where people bookmark this to laugh at me when I'm proven wrong but I do not see him leaving Spurs until he's 27/28.

what ever the spin is that is put on it - it brings me back to the point that I can't for the life of me work out why Spurs show such utter disdain for the league cup.

I get it is a lower priority than anything else, but when you've won nothing I don't get why you wouldn't be trying your best to win anything going.

I personally think that any trophy is a great first step for a squad in terms of building hunger and belief. I think the Europa League last season was a big moment for some of the players and will prove to be a stepping point in their career.

I get Kane would want to win more than the league cup, but surely he'd like to foookin win it!

Discodog

With any supersalary there has to be some safe guard. Imagine paying so much for a player who turns out not be any good. If a player gives 100% then I would be happy to see them paid a lot.

bangkok

Discodog wrote: »

With any supersalary there has to be some safe guard. Imagine paying so much for a player who turns out not be any good. If a player gives 100% then I would be happy to see them paid a lot.

if a player doesn't ever give 100% he should be immediately shipped out of the club

bangkok

bangkok wrote: »

if a player doesn't ever give 100% he should be immediately be shipped out of the club

What? :pac:

RobbingBandit

So we just got yeovil away in FA Cup

wanderer100

Yeovil Town away in the FA

Lowest ranked team left. Happy days

TheDoctor

Relatively quiet Jan (no midweek game the next three weeks) though it is just before Spurs aways. Expect a relatively strong side.

Guaranteed this one will be on tv too.

Mr.Crinklewood

Possebon interview

https://audioboom.com/posts/6583090-uws-podcast-286-rodrigo-possebon

S.M.B.

There's the answer to our midfield problem.

jayo26

Never forget that injury.

bucketybuck

S.M.B. wrote: »

There's the answer to our midfield problem.

You may not be serious but still...

It may be an unpopular opinion but people still vastly overrate any kids at their football club. Do we want to rule Europe or not? Because we won't do it if we turn to the likes of Possebon, McTominay, Pereira, Tuanzebe, Fosu-Mensah.

There is always a place for good players coming through the ranks, but no, they are not the answer to that problem of not having the same quality of players as many of our rivals.

Adamocovic

bucketybuck wrote: »

You may not be serious but still...

It may be an unpopular opinion but people still vastly overrate any kids at their football club. Do we want to rule Europe or not? Because we won't do it if we turn to the likes of Possebon, McTominay, Pereira, Tuanzebe, Fosu-Mensah.

There is always a place for good players coming through the ranks, but no, they are not the answer to that problem of not having the same quality of players as many of our rivals.

I couldn't help myself :pac:

S.M.B.

bucketybuck wrote: »

You may not be serious but still...

It may be an unpopular opinion but people still vastly overrate any kids at their football club. Do we want to rule Europe or not? Because we won't do it if we turn to the likes of Possebon, McTominay, Pereira, Tuanzebe, Fosu-Mensah.

There is always a place for good players coming through the ranks, but no, they are not the answer to that problem of not having the same quality of players as many of our rivals.

Was I being serious about 28 year old Possebon, who's now playing in Vietnam after struggling to make the grade in Portugal, Italy and Brazil, being the answer to our midfield problem?

No, no I wasn't.

jayo26

bucketybuck wrote: »

You may not be serious but still...

It may be an unpopular opinion but people still vastly overrate any kids at their football club. Do we want to rule Europe or not? Because we won't do it if we turn to the likes of Possebon, McTominay, Pereira, Tuanzebe, Fosu-Mensah.

There is always a place for good players coming through the ranks, but no, they are not the answer to that problem of not having the same quality of players as many of our rivals.

Something tells me he wasn't been serious....

jayo26

Jose post a video of warm weather training camp


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bds6HIvAt_3/

Lithium93_

RobbingBandit wrote: »

So we just got yeovil away in FA Cup

wanderer100 wrote: »

Yeovil Town away in the FA

Lowest ranked team left. Happy days

Step on up Mr. Ander Herrera to repeat this goal?

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/950452955316195330

Happy with that FA Cup draw, #MUFC fans?

It brings back fond memories for @AnderHerrera...

Spot Fellani the GOAT

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/950316423955525632

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Jose post a video of warm weather training camp


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bds6HIvAt_3/

That rain is warm though

IamtheWalrus

jayo26 wrote: »

Jose post a video of warm weather training camp


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bds6HIvAt_3/

Is that Jose's personal instagram account or managed by someone else?

Please say the latter

Lord TSC

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is that Jose's personal instagram account or managed by someone else?

Please say the latter

Few times it's cropped up, it strikes me it's usually his daughter running it.

Tylerdurex

If United did sign Kane he wouldn't be partnered with lukaku

Cantona's Collars

Neil Custis: "Fellaini has told Jose that he won't be signing a new contract as he wants a new challenge".

Cotts72

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Neil Custis: "Fellaini has told Jose that he won't be signing a new contract as he wants a new challenge".

Off with him so,replace him with a CM that can actually play ball

pjohnson

Adamocovic wrote: »

I couldn't help myself :pac:

Had to be done

Unearthly

Boards fecked?

Liam O

Cotts72 wrote: »

Off with him so,replace him with a CM that can actually play ball

Fairplay to him. Done enough to prove all the mouth breathers who booed him wrong and scored some of the most important goals in the club's recent history. Always gave everything and outperformed multiple players signed to replace him.

The idea that he is some sort of clogger who can't pass is silly as well considering the most ardent disciple of a passing game(LVG) was won over by him over a Spanish supposedly technically gifted midfielder. Though I did always think they made a very good duo in front of Carrick.

Can't believe some lads think we are signing Kane!
Lukaku is the primary striker. He's only been signed in the Summer.
It's possible a striker may be purchased but only as backup.

On Kane; I suspect Real Madrid will hammer Spurs with dosh in the summer.

secman

Liam O wrote: »

Fairplay to him. Done enough to prove all the mouth breathers who booed him wrong and scored some of the most important goals in the club's recent history. Always gave everything and outperformed multiple players signed to replace him.

The idea that he is some sort of clogger who can't pass is silly as well considering the most ardent disciple of a passing game(LVG) was won over by him over a Spanish supposedly technically gifted midfielder. Though I did always think they made a very good duo in front of Carrick.

A rose tinted view... surely, he was never a " fit " for us and he is right to move on, he needs regular game time for the world cup and he wasn't going to get it at United. Good luck to him.

Cookiemunster

secman wrote: »

A rose tinted view... surely, he was never a " fit " for us and he is right to move on, he needs regular game time for the world cup and he wasn't going to get it at United. Good luck to him.

Who said he was leaving now? The word is that Jose is willing to let him run down his contract as he wants him in the squad for the rest of the season.

Unearthly

Unearthly wrote: »

Boards fecked?

^^See Notices :P

Trigger

M!Ck^ wrote: »

^^See Notices :P

No notices on touch smart shîte!

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/950637704802390016

PSG's asking price for Lucas Moura is €40m, according to Le Parisien.

Liam O

€40m in the current climate would be ok. Though I've never been totally convinced by him and would prefer Mahrez. Think he'd be far better at cutting in which is paramount with Valencia there.

Should say though after seeing what direct pace hound wingers in Sterling and Salah have pulled off this season a player like Lucas could have an effect on stretching defenses a bit more.

IamtheWalrus

I think Kane has a great attitude in his pursuit to be the best (ala Ronaldo) but I'm not sure he'd cut it at somewhere like Madrid.

Cantona's Collars

Transfer spend by the top 6 clubs since City were taken over in 2008.

Arsenal: ......................£444,515,000
Chelsea: ......................£924,559,000
Liverpool: ....................£657,450,000
Man City: ..................£1,261,300,000
Man United:................. £811,650,000
Tottenham: ..................£548,650,000

Cantona's Collars

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Transfer spend by the top 6 clubs since City were taken over in 2008.

Arsenal: ......................£444,515,000
Chelsea: ......................£924,559,000
Liverpool: ....................£657,450,000
Man City: ..................£1,261,300,000
Man United:................. £811,650,000
Tottenham: ..................£548,650,000

:eek:

Trigger

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Transfer spend by the top 6 clubs since City were taken over in 2008.

Arsenal: ......................£444,515,000
Chelsea: ......................£924,559,000
Liverpool: ....................£657,450,000
Man City: ..................£1,261,300,000
Man United:................. £811,650,000
Tottenham: ..................£548,650,000

That’s without the VVD and Keita transfers for Pool

pjohnson

Did someone say Strootman was coming good again?

Per Sky ~ Roma need funds to afford Darmian and Strootman was one of the ones they are willing to listen to offers for.

bangkok

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

I think Kane has a great attitude in his pursuit to be the best (ala Ronaldo) but I'm not sure he'd cut it at somewhere like Madrid.

Why do you say that? Kane is probably one of the best strikers in europe right now and is very level headed. Where ever he goes he will be a huge success

yabadabado

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Neil Custis: "Fellaini has told Jose that he won't be signing a new contract as he wants a new challenge".

If that's true then I'd hope a cm is bought this month. Fellaini and Carrick most likely gone in the summer so 2 CMs needed be good to get one in this window considering the problems in that area this season.

Cantona's Collars

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Transfer spend by the top 6 clubs since City were taken over in 2008.

Arsenal: ......................£444,515,000
Chelsea: ......................£924,559,000
Liverpool: ....................£657,450,000
Man City: ..................£1,261,300,000
Man United:................. £811,650,000
Tottenham: ..................£548,650,000

City have spent a whole arsenal more then us

Mitch Connor

The amount of wastage in what United spent is unreal.

Di Maria being the poster boy of that.

IamtheWalrus

bangkok wrote: »

Why do you say that? Kane is probably one of the best strikers in europe right now and is very level headed. Where ever he goes he will be a huge success

Too white tbh

Mr.H

Deleted User wrote:

City have spent a whole arsenal more then us

To be fair none of those clubs have any excuse. If you spend 444 million you should be able to buy a team good enough to compete for the next ten years.

Ridiculous cash spent by all.

Mitch Connor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

The amount of wastage in what United spent is unreal.

Di Maria being the poster boy of that.

At the time it still was a top class singing. His form prior to signing for us was world class stuff. I remember him in his CL winning season for Real.
Just didn't work out because of his own laziness / attitude and possible because of LVG but who knows for sure.
I would class the wastage going towards spunking money on way too many squad players.

Mitch Connor

Mr.H wrote: »

To be fair none of those clubs have any excuse. If you spend 444 million you should be able to buy a team good enough to compete for the next ten years.

Ridiculous cash spent by all.

40mil per season, or there abouts, wouldn't have been massive spending in 08, never mind now.

I just don't buy your arguement.

Based on that logic, the more you spend the more capable you should be of competing. Which I agree with.

But that means the average league table over that time frame should be:

City.
Chelsea.
United.
Liverpool
Tottenham.
Arsenal.

So, Arsenal have spent 400+ and you feel that should have them competing, but there are clubs that have spent twice or three times that amount, so should be significantly better off.

The dreaded net spend figure though would also be interesting. Liverpools money spent would be offset quite a bit by some very big sales. Same with Spurs (Bale and Walker would account for about 25% of those purchases). United are generally poor at selling (though Ronaldo I think would be in that figure, i dunno) so I would say the net spend of United is even bigger proportionally.

United have wasted some amount of money.

Trigger

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Too white tbh

Jesus :pac:

Trigger

Mr.H wrote: »

To be fair none of those clubs have any excuse. If you spend 444 million you should be able to buy a team good enough to compete for the next ten years.

Ridiculous cash spent by all.

To compete? Not really especially when the 5 teams above you are spending more..

Kerrydude1981

Wait till next summer when the rest of the so called big 4/5/6 go stone mad spending money to try and catch up to City,

Off topic,Anyone watch the BT Sport documentary Sunday evening No Hunger in Paradise? Well worth watching

Adamocovic

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Too white tbh

Too white for the Los Blancos?