Manchester United Thread..The Final Chapter of 17? (MOD WARNINGS IN OP)

fergiesfolly

bangkok wrote: »

cantona ahead of Ronaldo?? go home astradave ur drunk

Cantona had sublime first touch, was two footed, great header, brilliant passer, and for a big fella, was quick enough. Could hold the ball up and bring players into the game and was selfless on the pitch.
Was also loved and respected by all his teammates and never ever went missing during a game, or bawled like a baby when he missed a penalty( which iirc happened only once)
His name is still chanted in the stadium, 20 years after retirement and always will be.

God, I miss that man.
F**king legend.

Anyway, 5 a side

Schmeichel
Keane
Charlton
Scoles
Cantona

Subs: Robson

Cantona's Collars

J. Marston wrote: »

Michael Oliver with another shítshow today. How that clown gets the big games all the time blows my mind.

How the hell is this a straight red?

https://imgtc.com/w/lzD2fj1

Seems like the penalty he awarded was a poor decision too.

bangkok

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Cantona had sublime first touch, was two footed, great header, brilliant passer, and for a big fella, was quick enough. Could hold the ball up and bring players into the game and was selfless on the pitch.
Was also loved and respected by all his teammates and never ever went missing during a game, or bawled like a baby when he missed a penalty( which iirc happened only once)
His name is still chanted in the stadium, 20 years after retirement and always will be.

God, I miss that man.
F**king legend.

ronaldo was still miles better than him, his name is also still sung in old trafford and slagging a player for crying when missing a penalty is actually sad

fergiesfolly

bangkok wrote: »

ronaldo was still miles better than him, his name is also still sung in old trafford and slagging a player for crying when missing a penalty is actually sad

No, crying when missing is sad.
I'd say he was upset for himself rather than the team.
He is the definition of Snowflake.
Me. Me. Me.
Great player, but a pathetic human being.

bangkok

fergiesfolly wrote: »

No, crying when missing is sad.
I'd say he was upset for himself rather than the team.
He is the definition of Snowflake.
Me. Me. Me.
Great player, but a pathetic human being.

ah will you stop.

An absolute legend at old trafford. One of the greatest players to ever play the game.

done tonnes of charity work off the field and is the ultimate professional

if thats what a pathetic human being is, theres no hope for anyone

fergiesfolly

bangkok wrote: »

ah will you stop.

An absolute legend at old trafford. One of the greatest players to ever play the game.

done tonnes of charity work off the field and is the ultimate professional

if thats what a pathetic human being is, theres no hope for anyone

And as I write this, I'm watching him get tackled during World Club final. Rolling around like he got shot and thirty seconds later, he's showing the ref his bruise, not a bother on him.
All that talent. He doesn't need the antics.He actually disgusts me.

Wouldn't swap him for Cantona in a million years.

QikBax

fergiesfolly wrote: »

No, crying when missing is sad.
I'd say he was upset for himself rather than the team.
He is the definition of Snowflake.
Me. Me. Me.
Great player, but a pathetic human being.

Just when you think you've read all the worst takes.

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Looking at that City team, they don't even have an outrageous 11 or anything.

De Gea over Ederson
Young/Shaw over Delph
Jones over Mangala
Bailly over Otamendi
Valencia equal to Walker

Matic over Fernandino
Pogba over Gundongan
De Bruyne over Herrera

Sterling marginally over Rashford
Martial just behind Sane
Aguero much better than Lukaku

fergiesfolly

QikBax wrote: »

Just when you think you've read all the worst takes.

He's not a team player. Doesn't give a damn for anyone on the pitch bar himself. Maybe it's what makes him a great player, but he's a shoddy human being.
Watching him when Bale scored for Madrid the other night. Was nearly going to try and claim the goal and looked like he was sucking lemons when all the other player went to congratulate Bale.
Not arguing against his talent, ability or success. The man has achieved an awful lot.
But,Christ Almighty, don't make him out to be something he's not

Trigger

bangkok wrote: »

ah will you stop.

An absolute legend at old trafford. One of the greatest players to ever play the game.

done tonnes of charity work off the field and is the ultimate professional

if thats what a pathetic human being is, theres no hope for anyone

Legend at United? Hardly.. he is one of the greatest to ever play the game but his best was away from Old Trafford..

If you said Legend of the Bernabeu I’d agree alright

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astradave wrote: »

Legend at United? Hardly.. he is one of the greatest to ever play the game but his best was away from Old Trafford..

If you said Legend of the Bernabeu I’d agree alright

Disagree. He is in the top 3 players to play for United and may go down as the best player of all time.

Mitch Connor

fergiesfolly wrote: »

He's not a team player. Doesn't give a damn for anyone on the pitch bar himself. Maybe it's what makes him a great player, but he's a shoddy human being.
Watching him when Bale scored for Madrid the other night. Was nearly going to try and claim the goal and looked like he was sucking lemons when all the other player went to congratulate Bale.
Not arguing against his talent, ability or success. The man has achieved an awful lot.
But,Christ Almighty, don't make him out to be something he's not

You're the one making him out to be a shoddy HUMAN BEING based on being selfish on the pitch.

Let's just ignore the stuff he does off the pitch. Let's forget his charity work or being a good dad. Let's forget all the people who have met him and said he's been so nice.

SHODDY HUMAN BEING.

imagine if he had many times just assaulted people on the pitch, or once in the stands

pjohnson

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Disagree. He is in the top 3 players to play for United and may go down as the best player of all time.

Since 2000's maybe...otherwise not a hope in hell

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pjohnson wrote: »

Since 2000's maybe...

Nope all time.

pjohnson

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Nope all time.

Best
Schmeichel
Cantona
Charlton
Law
Keane

off the top of my head better. Sure others can think off more.

bangkok

astradave wrote: »

Legend at United? Hardly.. he is one of the greatest to ever play the game but his best was away from Old Trafford..

If you said Legend of the Bernabeu I’d agree alright

He is a united legend, a madrid legend and a portugese legend

Lithium93_

bangkok wrote: »

He is a united legend, a madrid legend and a portugese legend

Well astradave's opinion would beg to differ to yours my friend.

bangkok

pjohnson wrote: »

Best
Schmeichel
Cantona
Charlton
Law
Keane

off the top of my head better. Sure others can think off more.

Yes schmeichel was a better goalkeeper than ronaldo was. 100% agree

bangkok

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Well Astradave's opinion would beg to differ to yours my friend.

http://www.manutd.com/en/History/Legends/Cristiano-Ronaldo.aspx

pjohnson

bangkok wrote: »

Yes schmeichel was a better goalkeeper than ronaldo was. 100% agree

Oh so when someone says top 3 players of all time to play for Mancheter United it refers to just outfield players then? Does the goalkeeper not count as a player?

Lithium93_

bangkok wrote: »

http://www.manutd.com/en/History/Legends/Cristiano-Ronaldo.aspx

Whoopy for you, you linked to Ronaldo's page on the United website :rolleyes:

Of course the club would class him as a Legend, just because astradave doesn't think he's one, doesn't mean you've to go stark raving mad at him :P

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has ONE.

O'shea
Irwin
Evra
Henize
Silvestre

jayo26

Great to have the old Bangkok back... all them new amateurs should watch and learn if your gonna stirr it up do it properly

pjohnson

bangkok wrote: »

http://www.manutd.com/en/History/Legends/Cristiano-Ronaldo.aspx

That list has Gregg and Stepney, two goalkeepers surely this cant be right?

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[Deleted User] wrote: »

O'shea
Irwin
Evra
Henize
Silvestre

Forgot about O'Shea. O'Shea Ronaldo Messi

pjohnson

jayo26 wrote: »

Great to have the old Bangkok back... all them new amateurs should watch and learn if your gonna stirr it up do it properly

I wonder his views on Fellaini.

Pheonix10

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Forgot about O'Shea. O'Shea Ronaldo Messi

Ah here JOS possibly played every position at the club at one stage or another Biggest legend to ever play for the club above Cantona, Ronaldo and Bebe even

brinty

pjohnson wrote:

That list has Gregg and Stepney, two goalkeepers surely this cant be right?

Gary Bailey too
And Edward van der Saar

pjohnson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah here JOS possibly played every position at the club at one stage or another Biggest legend to ever play for the club above Cantona, Ronaldo and Bebe even

pjohnson

pjohnson wrote: »

was that his Champions league Debut? twas his breakout season for the club anyways I remember thinking he was going to be unreal after watching that game

jayo26

I hate stupid arguments who is better player. Total different circumstances and different eras. Eric cantona probably single handily turned around the fortunes of United he brought the swagger into the team. Ronaldo did just as much the season we won the champions league he added that extra level to the team that no other player could do.

For me they both go into the top bracket of players to ever play for United. There is no better or worse I love them both.

As for Mr perfect judging what Ronaldo is personally

jayo26

pjohnson wrote: »

I wonder his views on Fellaini.

At least he actually gave him credit for improving to be fair.

Trigger

Well I reckon a one former striker will be getting sacked in the Morning

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

Well I reckon a one former striker will be getting sacked in the Morning

Hughes? Haven't watched much stories today.

J. Marston

At least Spurs will drop points this weekend.

Trigger

jayo26 wrote: »

Hughes? Haven't watched much stories today.

They were awful, don’t think they had a shot on target at all.. West Ham could have had Hart in goal and they still would have won

deaddonkey15

Ronaldo is obviously a United legend. How is that even up for debate.

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

They were awful, don’t think they had a shot on target at all.. West Ham could have had Hart in goal and they still would have won

Pulis do a good job there

That'll be hughes done in the premiership you would think

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[Deleted User] wrote: »

That'll be hughes done in the premiership you would think

Hopefully!!!

GSPfan

brinty wrote: »

Jennifer Lawrence
Scarlett Johansson
Anna Kendrick
Rachel Riley
Hayley McQueen

Cmon folks this was agreed long ago...

Id still swap out Kendrick for Scholes.

fergiesfolly

Mitch Connor wrote: »

You're the one making him out to be a shoddy HUMAN BEING based on being selfish on the pitch.

Let's just ignore the stuff he does off the pitch. Let's forget his charity work or being a good dad. Let's forget all the people who have met him and said he's been so nice.

SHODDY HUMAN BEING.

imagine if he had many times just assaulted people on the pitch, or once in the stands

I'll be honest. Personally, I'm not all that impressed when incredibly rich people give to charity. And Ronaldo's is always in the public eye, so I'm not sure how much of it charity and how much PR. Is he a good dad? Maybe, I don't know him personally, so I couldn't say. And what if he is.. that's the least one can expect when you bring children into the world.

Anyway, I'm done with this. I've made my point. Some agree. Others disagree. I'm not one for rehashing the same argument over and over for the sake of it.

Mitch Connor

fergiesfolly wrote: »

I'll be honest. Personally, I'm not all that impressed when incredibly rich people give to charity. And Ronaldo's is always in the public eye, so I'm not sure how much of it charity and how much PR. Is he a good dad? Maybe, I don't know him personally, so I couldn't say. And what if he is.. that's the least one can expect when you bring children into the world.

Anyway, I'm done with this. I've made my point. Some agree. Others disagree. I'm not one for rehashing the same argument over and over for the sake of it.

LOL, what a bunch of rubbish.

You call him a shoddy human being, not an annoying or selfish player, an actual bad human being - and then bleat about how you don't know enough about him personally to talk to that side of him.

Absolutely f**King laughable.

AidoEirE

fergiesfolly wrote: »

I'll be honest. Personally, I'm not all that impressed when incredibly rich people give to charity. And Ronaldo's is always in the public eye, so I'm not sure how much of it charity and how much PR. Is he a good dad? Maybe, I don't know him personally, so I couldn't say. And what if he is.. that's the least one can expect when you bring children into the world.

Anyway, I'm done with this. I've made my point. Some agree. Others disagree. I'm not one for rehashing the same argument over and over for the sake of it.

Your spouting nonsense to be honest, your opinion of the guy which is fair enough, to say charity work is for PR is rubbish when Ronaldo and Messi are the most prolific footballers around.

And i wouldnt be impressed if rich people didnt give to charity which i say outweighs more

bangkok

fergiesfolly wrote: »

I'll be honest. Personally, I'm not all that impressed when incredibly rich people give to charity. And Ronaldo's is always in the public eye, so I'm not sure how much of it charity and how much PR. Is he a good dad? Maybe, I don't know him personally, so I couldn't say. And what if he is.. that's the least one can expect when you bring children into the world.

Anyway, I'm done with this. I've made my point. Some agree. Others disagree. I'm not one for rehashing the same argument over and over for the sake of it.

nobody agrees with that absolute crap you just posted

J. Marston

Kane and Alli have committed almost identical tackles to Pogba today and only got yellows.

limnam

J. Marston wrote: »

Kane and Alli have committed almost identical tackles to Pogba today and only got yellows.

Alli's was far worse than pogba's IMO

Hococop

Can they be banned still or as they were booked that's it

Whatsisname

Hococop wrote: »

Can they be banned still or as they were booked that's it

Seen as it’s been dealt with the ref so no further action iirc.

Trigger

Whatsisname wrote: »

Seen as it’s been dealt with the ref so no further action iirc.

Unless it’s classed as violent conduct then it can be reviewed I think