Manchester United Thread..The Final Chapter of 17? (MOD WARNINGS IN OP)

Rayne Wooney

There is no doubting the potential of Rashford and Martial, but they don’t play to a high enough standard now to both be starting for a club with title aspirations. The problem is Lingard, Mata and Mkhitaryan are the extent of our options outside them.

If you are a defender none of those names are going to keep you awake at night.

pjohnson

Business Cat wrote: »

Match threads for their games followed the same trajectory as their form.

It started off with one for every game but when the realisation hit that this year was not going to be their year after a run of poor results they dwindled off, culminating with the wonderful Sevilla match where a 3 nil half time lead was somehow turned into a draw.

Now that we've had a couple of poor results and they have had a couple of wins in a row their little peckers are starting to quiver again but nobody is brave enough to start match threads for them consistently.

You see keeping the discussion of their games within the superthread, it affords them a safe space because comments that one might make with no mod intervention in a match thread could be deemed as being trolling if they were posted in a superthread. Sensitive souls that they are.

It's actually quite a fascinating group think, a hive mind if you will. If David Attenborough got wind of it he'd make a documentary on it, I'd love to get his thoughts on it.

You can see the beginnings of it in here the last week or so, their worker ants beginning to probe the outside world and attempt to start a conflict with the neighbouring ant hills.

It makes for some very entertaining reading.

Extremely early contender for nature-themed post of the year :pac:

redzerdrog

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

There is no doubting the potential of Rashford and Martial, but they don’t play to a high enough standard now to both be starting for a club with title aspirations. The problem is Lingard, Mata and Mkhitaryan are the extent of our options outside them.

If you are a defender none of those names are going to keep you awake at night.

You're not allowed hold that view around here it seems

sigmundv

adox wrote:

I think they are.

Feel free to think that Everton are in much better form than United, but this is not borne out by any facts.

Unearthly

Business Cat wrote: »

Match threads for their games followed the same trajectory as their form.

It started off with one for every game but when the realisation hit that this year was not going to be their year after a run of poor results they dwindled off, culminating with the wonderful Sevilla match where a 3 nil half time lead was somehow turned into a draw.

Now that we've had a couple of poor results and they have had a couple of wins in a row their little peckers are starting to quiver again but nobody is brave enough to start match threads for them consistently.

You see keeping the discussion of their games within the superthread, it affords them a safe space because comments that one might make with no mod intervention in a match thread could be deemed as being trolling if they were posted in a superthread. Sensitive souls that they are.

It's actually quite a fascinating group think, a hive mind if you will. If David Attenborough got wind of it he'd make a documentary on it, I'd love to get his thoughts on it.

You can see the beginnings of it in here the last week or so, their worker ants beginning to probe the outside world and attempt to start a conflict with the neighbouring ant hills.

It makes for some very entertaining reading.

That pretty much sums it up perfectly

Lord TSC

adox wrote: »

On today’s game I fear the worst. We are in a slump and 48 hour isn’t enough to shake it off.

sigmundv wrote: »

Feel free to think that Everton are in much better form than United, but this is not borne out by any facts.

In the last 6 games,we both have 9 points. They actually rank ahead in the form table off the back of having a +2 goal difference to our plus one....

adox

sigmundv wrote: »

Feel free to think that Everton are in much better form than United, but this is not borne out by any facts.

Well not trying to be pendantic but it depends what sample size you take, whether you are talking about results and results only and not taking into account the opposition or the team who’s form you are talking about etc. it’s all relative.

Are you talking about the last 3 games as per your original sample size? If so Utd have 3 points as opposed to Evertons 2. Evertons last 3 games were an away defeat and away draw and a home draw to Chelsea.

Utd have two home draws(against Southampton and Burnley) and an away draw.

All this considered even though Everton have 1more point form the 3 games Id have them in a better run of form considering who the clubs are, expectations and even the opposition and where the games are played.

I’m not saying I’m absolutely right but saying that it isn’t borne out by the facts I think is a little over simplistic

hufpc8w3adnk65

Mahrez with a peach in the Leicester game... I’ve to go hide awhile after my post yesterday

TheDoc

Lord TSC wrote: »

I mean, he's already surpassed his goals and assists tally this year compared to the entirety of last year, but sure, he's "regressing"....

This fixation on goals and assists as if it’s the end all and be all. It’s like the fixation on our good start and how many points or goals we had used as a rebuff to any indicators or critique raised.

Martial has had a splint of decent performances here and there but in general has been anything but what he should be. His goals and assists are just masking up the fact he is not kicking on.

Anyone with two eyes watching the games will see this. Stop burying into stats as a defense mechanism.

Martial is into his third season and still can’t get a string of games together starting where he is in devastating form. His age aside, he has all the attributes and ability to be tearing everything up in front of him. Up front or out wide. And it should be a concern to all fans he is not.

He is well behind the likes of Sterling, Sane and Salah when he really shouldn’t. He is an incredible talent that we are not anywhere near harnessing.

sigmundv

Lord TSC wrote:

In the last 6 games,we both have 9 points. They actually rank ahead in the form table off the back of having a +2 goal difference to our plus one....

So our form results wise is very similar. Both Everton and we are equally inconsistent at the moment.

To say that Everton are in good form is to give them too much credit. They were in good form, but it has tailed off during the past week, as has ours. I think another draw is the most likely result tonight.

GSPfan

MrMac84 wrote: »

Mahrez with a peach in the Leicester game... I’ve to go hide awhile after my post yesterday

Ha ha. I’ll never shut about him if he keeps it up.

Jayop

redzerdrog wrote: »

You're not allowed hold that view around here it seems

Of course you are. It's a perfectly reasonable view to hold not full of hyperbole or non related crap.

hufpc8w3adnk65

GSPfan wrote: »

Ha ha. I’ll never shut about him if he keeps it up.

He assisted their second now aswell

Lord TSC

sigmundv wrote: »

So our form results wise is very similar. Both Everton and we are equally inconsistent at the moment.

To say that Everton are in good form is to give them too much credit. They were in good form, but it has tailed off during the past week, as has ours. I think another draw is the most likely result tonight.

Nah mate, we are going to let in an early Rooney goal and then win 4-2.

GSPfan

Ahhh tits, just seen the Liverpool score. Come on Burnley.

TheDoc

adox wrote: »

On today’s game I fear the worst. We are in a slump and 48 hour isn’t enough to shake it off.

Really isn’t the game I need to start the New Year.

Know exactly what could happen to put me into a spiral

wanderer100

Pogba further up it seems. Good to see

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/947867560455868416

xtal191

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/947867560455868416

Jayop

Martial at center forward.

hufpc8w3adnk65

xtal191 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/947867560455868416

Hi zerks




Martial cf... hopefully he produces today.. like the look of that 11.. seems balanced

Tylerdurex

Hughes head firmly on the chopping block now

jayo26

Looks 4231 with pogba as 10?

adox

Smalling on the bench. Good to see him back so soon.

Speaking of the bench, very little there to come on and change the game with Miki and Rashford being the only two attackers, so Rashford only really. :pac:

jayo26

Jayop wrote: »

Martial at center forward.

MrMac84 wrote: »

Hi zerks




Martial cf... hopefully he produces today.. like the look of that 11.. seems balanced

Hi cantonas collor

Minderbinder

Fancy us today. A bit of expectation on Everton but they still don’t offer much threat. Expect a classic away performance. 0-2.

Lord TSC

That's the three man midfield everyone has been clamouring for, so interested to see how it does.

GSPfan

Lord TSC wrote: »

That's the three man midfield everyone has been clamouring for, so interested to see how it does.

Not sure it is if Pogba plays as a 10 in a 4231. I’d personally rather a 4141 type set up with Pogba alongside say Herrera in this case with Matic mopping up.

Would genuinely love to see Pogba and Martial combine for a few goals.

Mitch Connor

Lingard and mata likely the wide players in a 433, not a great prospect. Would need a lot of width to be provided by the full backs, which Shaw might give us but lindelof won't.

Going to be a very narrow performance. Worrying.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Herrera needs a big game today



Head out for a stroll lads nice evening

Jayop

Don't.... Say..... Anything

Mitch Connor

Lord TSC wrote: »

That's the three man midfield everyone has been clamouring for, so interested to see how it does.

I was calling for it at the start of the season BUT Herrera has been rubbish and our wide threats at both full back and on the wing are not great wide options... So I'm not hopeful for the performances today.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Interested to Lindelof at rb today also. He has a good strike off a ball so interested to see him cross the ball

Mitch Connor

GSPfan wrote: »

Ha ha. I’ll never shut about him if he keeps it up.

He would be a great signing and fill a need. It's annoying that United don't seem to have any interest in signing him.

jayo26

Jayop wrote: »

Don't.... Say..... Anything

Ya clown

bangkok

MrMac84 wrote: »

Herrera needs a big game today



Head out for a stroll lads nice evening

every single one of them needs a big game today

GSPfan

FFS.

We cannot lose. Especially not by 2 goals.

Tylerdurex

FCUK

J. Marston

Second half of this season is going to be fúcking scutter.

wanderer100

Must win this!!

We need to end this horrid run of form and results.

bangkok

its gone from us "challenging" city for the title, to hoping not to lose to Everton by 2 goals so Liverpool will not pass us out :eek:

Quandary

If we drop points today, which lets be honest is very much on the cards, the match thread will be an abomination

adox

Lord TSC wrote: »

That's the three man midfield everyone has been clamouring for, so interested to see how it does.

Still not the personnel there though. An out of form Herrera part of the three. Also the wide players being Mata and Lingard isn’t really what we need either.

Martial hat-trick. Today

Also how long more is Fellaini out for been a big loss especially in games where we were defending leads say what you like about him but he is a man mountain in our own box and I think he has been superb defensively under Jose he has cut out all the rashness out of his game.

I remember under lvg there was a points won lost with him when he played which reflected poorly on him id imagine under Jose a similar table would reflect quite well.

go bears.......

pjohnson

Be hard to drop Lingard from the side. Pogba has to be stuck in at 10 so Jesse has to move wide.

limnam

bangkok wrote: »

its gone from us "challenging" city for the title, to hoping not to lose to Everton by 2 goals so Liverpool will not pass us out :eek:

Better than been 6 points behind arsenal chasing 5th.

But there's plenty of time for that yet.

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

its gone from us "challenging" city for the title, to hoping not to lose to Everton by 2 goals so Liverpool will not pass us out :eek:

Jaysus nothing gets past you pal

Cantona's Collars

Seeing Liverpool get an offside 94th minute winner is a sickener. That gap we had over them only a fortnight ago is pretty much gone. Gonna need our players to get their heads out of their asses and actually play some winning football again.

TitianGerm

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Seeing Liverpool get an offside 94th minute winner is a sickener. That gap we had over them only a fortnight ago is pretty much gone. Gonna need our players to get their heads out of their asses and actually play some winning football again.

When did Liverpool get an offside 94th minute? Seeing as it's you posting I'm guessing it was in September/October

Klavan today definitely didn't look offside.

bangkok

bangkok wrote: »

its gone from us "challenging" city for the title, to hoping not to lose to Everton by 2 goals so Liverpool will not pass us out :eek:

Did someone say this or is this another invented notion

bangkok

GSPfan wrote: »

FFS.

We cannot lose. Especially not by 2 goals.

Deleted User wrote: »

Did someone say this or is this another invented notion

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