PW Boards Draft XI - Discussion Thread!

Necro

5 Posts Max

LeeJM wrote: »

I will take #8 for RR draw. And I love this stip picking for somebody else and seeing how they use that person. Already have a list in my head for picks for Liz

Yeah I have a couple in mind for Kolido as well. Also share the sentiments of liking this stip, always good to see whether others thoughts align with your own.

A Brad Maddox Guy

4 Posts Max

I think I know who I'm taking this round but want to review my list first so it'll be after I get home from work. Also love these stips, really makes you look at someone else's roster in detail. And I'll take the number 6.

Necro

5 Posts Max

A Brad Maddox Guy wrote: »

I think I know who I'm taking this round but want to review my list first so it'll be after I get home from work. Also love these stips, really makes you look at someone else's roster in detail. And I'll take the number 6.

Not acceptable Brad, I demand you make your pick now!

(Just kidding, take your time )

paulie21

5 Posts Max

I’ll take lucky number 27

Spongey1975

6 Posts Max

Hoping this number is available i choose Legs 11

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Numbers gone for round 11 Rumble draw :

1. Necrominus
2. .
3. .
4. .
5. .
6. A Brad Maddox Guy
7. DM_7
8. LeeJM
9. .
10. Kolido
11. Spongey1975
12. .
13. JP Liz
14. Mr Guppa
15. Beakerjoe
16. .
17. Furious Red
18. .
19. .
20. Shagnasti
21. Connemara Man
22.
23. Daithi1989
24. .
25. Bounty Hunter
26. .
27. paulie21
28.
29. Slickric
30. Uncle Walt

3 guys left to pick..... MNG, Lord TSC and Alfred Borden

Also if Lord TSC and Alfred borden had a baby it would be Lord Alfred (Hayes)..... that is all

Necro

5 Posts Max

Ah dammit. This Enzo story has kinda put a kibosh on some of my plans. May have to consider a different direction.

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

Pick made and PM sent.

Edit: I was so excited with my research picking Race and Jannetty together that I miscounted.
In 1985 they tagged 14th Sept, 26th Sept, 23rd Oct and 14th Nov. I guess that's technically 3 months, but it's a fairly thin argument.
They also tagged on three six-man tags earlier that September.

Spongey1975

6 Posts Max

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Pick made and PM sent.

Edit: I was so excited with my research picking Race and Jannetty together that I miscounted.
In 1985 they tagged 14th Sept, 26th Sept, 23rd Oct and 14th Nov. I guess that's technically 3 months, but it's a fairly thin argument.
They also tagged on three six-man tags earlier that September.

I really need clarification on the 3 month rule. From the 14th September to the 14th November is exactly 2 months in duration. Are we counting half of September as one month and half of November as another month?

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

Spongey1975 wrote: »

I really need clarification on the 3 month rule. From the 14th September to the 14th November is exactly 2 months in duration. Are we counting half of September as one month and half of November as another month?

Well it's 2 months and a day technically. There was a similar pick earlier that was let go I think.

I don't mind. If it's an issue I'll change the pick.

Spongey1975

6 Posts Max

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Well it's 2 months and a day technically. There was a similar pick earlier that was let go I think.

I don't mind. If it's an issue I'll change the pick.

If its fine with the rest i dont mind. I have no interest in Jannetty but i just need clarification on this rule

Mr. Guappa

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Spongey1975 wrote: »

If its fine with the rest i dont mind. I have no interest in Jannetty but i just need clarification on this rule

I'll change it to just Race. He's the one I wanted anyway. I've had Marty in mind for a story all along, figuring I'd take him late, so when I saw they'd tagged I thought I'd kill 2 birds with one stone, but I genuinely miscounted the dates. 2 months and 1 day is against the spirit of the rule, so I'll change it.

ShagNastii

5 Posts Max

Hate to open another can of "three month tag team" worms but just for clarity I'll point out that my most recent pick (Suzuki & ZSJ) have teamed a couple times in New Japan since Sabre joined Suzuki Gun in September. Only last week they won the RevPro tag titles in the U.K.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

The Tag team rules as per OP. Rules which have been used since I first played 5 years ago
:

Tag Teams:
Tag Teams come as a package so for example if you want the DIY , you don'y have to pick Johnny Gargano in one round and Tommaso Ciampa in another. Both can be picked up together in one pick. The rules for tag teams are as follows:

- Cannot have a world champion in them ie You can't draft The Rockers as a tag team, as Shawn Michaels has had held a World Championship (World Championships are defined above so read carefully)
- Must have tagged together for at least 3 months (if in doubt, ask myself or BH)
- Inter gender tag teams not allowed
- Members of factions, ie Saturn and Malenko, are not deemed valid picks as they are not classed as legit tag teams under the criteria for the game

- 5 tag teams is the maximum amount of teams for each roster


So based off these rules, I shall address the following

ShagNastii wrote: »

Hate to open another can of "three month tag team" worms but just for clarity I'll point out that my most recent pick (Suzuki & ZSJ) have teamed a couple times in New Japan since Sabre joined Suzuki Gun in September. Only last week they won the RevPro tag titles in the U.K.

Im sorry Shag but your team are NOT eligibile. Please change as soon as you can.

Despite them winning tag titles, they still need to tag for 3 months. They havent tagged as a duo enough from what i can see.

If you supple evidence to say otherwise, I will consider the evidence like WALTER / Axel last round.... but right now I cant allow them as a team.

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

I'll change it to just Race. He's the one I wanted anyway. I've had Marty in mind for a story all along, figuring I'd take him late, so when I saw they'd tagged I thought I'd kill 2 birds with one stone, but I genuinely miscounted the dates. 2 months and 1 day is against the spirit of the rule, so I'll change it.

The 3 month rule was never really clarified this year. Id rathe rhave it at a clear 90 days, but this yeara nd last i have allowed teams once they tagged at least 1 in consecutive months, ie once in Jan, once in Feb and once in March would be fine. So based on that, I would allow the Race and Jannetty tea.

Alfred Borden

6 Posts Max

Ill have number 16!

Pick ready to go after Shag changes/argues his pick.

ShagNastii

5 Posts Max

No problem Joe. As stated it's the three month rule that is in question.

09.10.2017 New Japan Pro Wrestling CHAOS (Hirooki Goto & Toru Yano) defeat Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki & Zack Sabre Jr.) by Count Out (9:18)
NJPW King Of Pro-Wrestling 2017 - TV-Show @ Ryogoku Kokugikan in Tokyo, Japan

09.11.2017 Revolution Pro Wrestling New Japan Pro Wrestling CHAOS (Hirooki Goto & Will Ospreay) defeat Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki & Zack Sabre Jr.) (22:20)
RevPro/NJPW Global Wars 2017 - Tag 1 - Event @ York Hall in Bethnal Green, Greater London, England, UK

05.01.2018
Suzuki-gun (Davey Boy Smith Jr., Lance Archer, Minoru Suzuki & Zack Sabre Jr.) defeat War Machine (Hanson & Raymond Rowe), Hiroshi Tanahashi & Michael Elgin (11:36)
NJPW New Year Dash !! 2018 - TV-Show @ Korakuen Hall in Tokyo, Japan

Two established tag teams V Two established tag teams


20.01.2018 RevPro British Tag Team Title: Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki & Zack Sabre Jr.) defeat Moustache Mountain (Trent Seven & Tyler Bate) (c) (20:58) - TITLE CHANGE !!!
RevPro High Stakes 2018 - Event @ York Hall in Bethnal Green, Greater London, England, UK

That's the best I could find to argue my case. ZSJ only fought five times in DEC17.

I probably should concede in interest of not holding up the draft but I'd equate them somewhat to Rusev/English. It isn't a John Cena/David Otunga like TT. They haven't been together that long but people would class them as a tag team all day long.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

They havent tagged enough yet shag, and not in at least 3 consecutive months. I cant allow it buddy, im sorry.

DM_7

5 Posts Max

Let me know if I missed any;



Uncle Walt: HBK Shawn Michaels; Brian Pillman; Legion of Doom; Hayes and Gordy The Fabulous Freebirds; Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard; The Dynamite Kid; The Big Show; Bam Bam Bigelow;

Lord TSC: Brock Lesnar; Big E and Xavier Woods; Shinsuke Nakamua; Dean Ambrose; Bobby Lashley; Kofi; Ken Shamrock and Steve Blackman; Hardcore Holly and Crash Holly;

JP Liz V1: Daniel Bryan; Christopher Daniels and Kazarian; Ethan Carter III aka Derrick Bateman; John Morrison and Joey Mercury; Austin Aries; Tyson Kidd and DH Smith; Fit Finlay;

Spongey1975: The Undertaker; Ricky The Dragon Steamboat; Ted Di Biase and Irwin R Schyster; Bray Wyatt; The Revival (Dash and Dawson); War Machine; Booker T; The Iron Shiek;

DM_7: The Rock; Jake The Snake Roberts; Tetsuya Naito; Alberto Del Rio; Corey Graves and King Neville; Charlotte Flair; Trish Stratus; Matt Riddle & Jeff Cobb;

Mr. Guappa: Stone Cold Steve Austin; The Young Bucks; Cesaro and Chris Hero; Becky Lynch; Marty Scurll; Asuka; Stephanie McMahon; Harley Race;

Bounty Hunter: Roman Reigns; Dusty Rhodes; Kazuchika Okada; Kenta Kobashi and Mitsuharu Misawa; The Usos; Jimmy Snuka & Jesse Ventura, Val Venis & The Godfather; Nick Bockwinkle and Dory Funk Jr;

beakerjoe: Bret Hitman Hart; Samoa Joe; Chris Benoit; Rey Mysterio; Gargano and Ciampa; Paul Heyman; Andrade Cien Almas; Davey Richards and Roderick Strong;

Furious-Red: Seth Rollins; Jeff Hardy; Sami Zayn; Aleister Black; Cody Rhodes; Wade Barrett; Paul London and Brian Kendrick; Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley;

Necrominus: Batista; Ultimate Warrior; Braun Strowman; Authors of Pain; Antonio Inoki; Big Cass & Enzo Amore; The Bludgeon Brothers (Erick Rowan and Luke Harper); Chyna;

Mr.Nice Guy: Chris Jericho; Broken Matt Hardy; Kenny Omega and Kota Ibushi; Scott Steiner; Rob Van Dam; Stan Hansen and Bruiser Brody; William Regal and Lance Storm; Kerry Von Erich and David Von Erich;

ShagNastii: Triple H; Vincent Kennedy McMahon; Pete Dunne and Trent Seven; Tyler Bate; Goldust; John Bradshaw Layfield; Yokozuna;

paulie21: Kurt Angle; Goldberg; Bobby Roode; Rusev and Aidan English; Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas; Sheamus; Shane McMahon; Tazz and Spike Dudley;

connemara man: John Cena; The Miz; Kevin Owens; Vader; Bo Dallas and Curtis Axel (Miztourage); Bayley; Lita; Mark Henry and MVP;

A Brad Maddox Guy: Hulk Hogan; Eddie Guerrero; Andre The Giant; Dolph Ziggler; Kyle O'Reilly and Adam Cole; Jason Jordan and Chad Gable; Raven and Tommy Dreamer; Keiji Mutoh & Masahiro Chono;

daithi1989: Randy Orton; AJ Styles; Finn Balor; Gallows and Anderson; Bully Ray (Dudley); Alexander Wolfe and Killian Dane; Diamond Dallas Page DDP; Drew McIntyre and Jinder Mahal;

Kolido: Edge; Scott Hall (Trade for Sting); Kevin Nash; Billy Gunn and Road Dogg - New Age Outlaws; Christian; Sycho Sid; Beefcake and Valentine; Damien Sandow & Titus O'Neil;

LeeJM: Macho Man Randy Savage; Sting (Trade for Scot Hall); Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig; Shibata and Goto; Will Ospreay; Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA; Bobby "The Brain" Heenan; Jushin Thunder Liger; WALTER & Axel Dieter Jr;

Alfred Borden: "Rowdy" Roddy Piper; Ric Flair; Owen Hart and British Bulldog; Ravishing Rick Rude; Kane; Lex Luger; Jeff Jarrett;

SlickRic: Mick Foley; CM Punk; Hiroshi Tanahashi; Terry Funk; Umaga; Jerry 'The King' Lawler; Bruno Sammartino; Jay Briscoe and Mark Briscoe;

JP Liz V1

4 Posts Max

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Ill have number 16!

Pick ready to go after Shag changes/argues his pick.

I've my pick ready too, can I pm someone in case I'm gone off line please to throw up

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

You guys can pm me.....or bh

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

beakerjoe wrote: »

The 3 month rule was never really clarified this year. Id rathe rhave it at a clear 90 days, but this yeara nd last i have allowed teams once they tagged at least 1 in consecutive months, ie once in Jan, once in Feb and once in March would be fine. So based on that, I would allow the Race and Jannetty tea.

Cool. Cheers. I've edited my pick again there so to include Jannetty.

ShagNastii

5 Posts Max

Sorry about the delay guys. I'll change my pick there now.

The countless NJPW multi man tags are killer in terms of finding a tag team. Personally think Suzuki/ZSJ are a more solid tag team than many that are classed as such (especially this side of the pond). They have teamed for AT LEAST three months.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

ShagNastii wrote: »

Sorry about the delay guys. I'll change my pick there now.

The countless NJPW multi man tags are killer in terms of finding a tag teams. Personally think Suzuki/ZSJ are a more solid tag team than many that are classed as such (especially this side of the pond). They have teamed for AT LEAST three months.

No they teamed 4 times over 2 months and once more. They may tag more as the months pass but right now they havent met the criteria. They fall under the faction for now

Sorry dude, i feel you but i have already declined other team that had similar issues and i have to remain consistant

LeeJM

5 Posts Max

ShagNastii wrote: »

Sorry about the delay guys. I'll change my pick there now.

The countless NJPW multi man tags are killer in terms of finding a tag teams. Personally think Suzuki/ZSJ are a more solid tag team than many that are classed as such (especially this side of the pond). They have teamed for AT LEAST three months.

I'm gonna disagree Shag. IMO they are members of a stable who sometimes tag together. Yes they just won the Rev Pro Tag Titles but I'm not sure that that wasn't there first time as a team in Rev Pro. And the NJ 6-8 man tags really shouldn't be considered "teaming" otherwise I could make some pretty spectacular teams from NJ and All Japan history.

I will say I have a couple of suggestions to help iron out the problems with teams for the discussion after this years draft.

A Brad Maddox Guy

4 Posts Max

ZSJ is still a great pick on his own I think, I likely would have taken him in the next round had he been available. Was gutted when Marty got picked earlier cos I wanted to pair them up in MWA again

LeeJM

5 Posts Max

How many rounds are we doing this year?

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

15 rounds guys

Bounty Hunter

6 Posts Max

Cheers for the pm Al and good work on the updated list of picks DM. Might have to wait till late am (your time) to make my pick and update the op of the other thread as I'm at work on my phone and don't have a list of picks in front of me while a few of my planned ones (top of the list was Sheiky) went over night.

Necro

5 Posts Max

Flick it anyways. X-Pac was gonna be my pick for Kolido

Back to the drawing board in that regard.

Kolido

5 Posts Max

I have 2 in mind for MNG so pretty sure at least one will be available.

Necro

5 Posts Max

Bonus picks not kind to Necro thus far... I wanted Paige for myself

Bounty Hunter

6 Posts Max

Pick made PM sent

Didn't plan on Nigel but he can probably fill the role I had in mind for Shieky

Hope Al is happy with Paige though. Top women with a different character than most and storyline potential as a result, could always hang around with bulldog too if you want British stable too for example.

Bounty Hunter

6 Posts Max

Necrominus wrote: »

Bonus picks not kind to Necro thus far... I wanted Paige for myself

So tempted to post that south park BP gif :pac:

Well at least that shows I wasn't taking the P!sh with who I gave to the fellah before me

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Liz wont be happy with the Nigel pick me thinks

Bounty Hunter

6 Posts Max

beakerjoe wrote: »

Liz wont be happy with the Nigel pick me thinks

Ha that is a thought that went through my head, he is one of her boys:

Christian, Edge, Heenan, a celeb, Daniels & Kazarian, Nigel

could probably do up a list like that for a few of us though, so far probably only the Kobashi/Misawa tag pick from me is standard, maybe Ventura too cos I know i've booked him at least once in a big way.

Necro

5 Posts Max

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

So tempted to post that south park BP gif :pac:

Well at least that shows I wasn't taking the P!sh with who I gave to the fellah before me

Haha, I would deserve it too

I was gonna draft her last round but went for Chyna first, doubted she would have made it around to me tbh but with my pick so close I had started getting my hopes up... the joys of the draft

Bounty Hunter

6 Posts Max

It was an unplanned pick so I would imagine she like a few people picked for others this round could be trade-able... waits to see what unplanned pick he gets before backtracking on that

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

Pick made and PM sent. Debated the pick for BH more than my own. I've nothing set in stone for Elias, but he is a fun character, and could be set for big things over the next year.

Picked Naomi for BH. Strikes me as a bit of an obvious one, hopefully not a complete dud anyway!

Bounty Hunter

6 Posts Max

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Pick made and PM sent. Debated the pick for BH more than my own. I've nothing set in stone for Elias, but he is a fun character, and could be set for big things over the next year.

Picked Naomi for BH. Strikes me as a bit of an obvious one, hopefully not a complete dud anyway!

I actually considered giving Al Elias among others as yeah it was nice to focus a bit on someone elses roster but decided he didn't have any women so he will probably be able to find a space for one more easily in any plans... probably should have expected the same logic might apply to myself. Thanks for going with a roster connection though, it'll make it much easier to add to ideas already in motion and if some picks later on come off I might already have a place in mind for her. Was kind of expecting a member of that extended family but for some reason not her (happy with her though).

JP Liz V1

4 Posts Max

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Ha that is a thought that went through my head, he is one of her boys:

Christian, Edge, Heenan, a celeb, Daniels & Kazarian, Nigel

could probably do up a list like that for a few of us though, so far probably only the Kobashi/Misawa tag pick from me is standard, maybe Ventura too cos I know i've booked him at least once in a big way.

Nigel Mc is a great pick BH, I am thinking potential feud between him and Roman Reigns but with your roster's quality which ever way he is used will be tops

I did try picking guys/gals I have not had before but sometimes relying on old faithfuls that are still available is hard to pass up

Necro

5 Posts Max

Agreed Liz... trying to resist the temptation to draft an NCW stalwart since round 5 or so. Resistance is waning with each passing round they are left undrafted.

Mr.Nice Guy

4 Posts Max

I'll have my pick up shortly.

Update: Pick made and PM sent. Happy to finish off my fifth and final tag pick with them.

Spongey1975

6 Posts Max

Ouch.....planned to pick Morton & Gibson this round to complete my tag team division....onto plan C....time to think of a plan C

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

MNG with a hell of a pick for himself but an even more awesome pick for mr guppa.

Very generous and well within the spirit of the stip.

That said 2 names gone from my list

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I'll have my pick up shortly.

Update: Pick made and PM sent. Happy to finish off my fifth and final tag pick with them.

Can you pick a number for the rumble sweep draw .....

Mr.Nice Guy

4 Posts Max

beakerjoe wrote: »

Can you pick a number for the rumble sweep draw .....

Sorry, completely missed that. I'll have 19 if it's available.

A Brad Maddox Guy

4 Posts Max

Yis are giving away too many good people :pac:

Kolido

5 Posts Max

Pick made, pm sent. Hope mng is happy with it.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

A Brad Maddox Guy wrote: »

Yis are giving away too many good people :pac:

I just hope Walt likes One of Braun strowmans squash guys

Mr.Nice Guy

4 Posts Max

Kolido wrote: »

Pick made, pm sent. Hope mng is happy with it.

Funnily enough I was watching Buff and Steiner in the 98 Nitros and enjoying their act so I would have made a move for Buff down the line. You saved me a pick so cheers.