PW Boards Draft XI - Discussion Thread!

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for Spongey1975 -

Firstly the build-up show and I'm liking the story for Storm/Santana and King Booker/Sin Cara and keen to find out what Sin Cara does. Nice line by King Booker about Sin Cara being his property. Really liked the Bachelorette build with Sunny; that's one of the most original storylines I've seen in the game and much like Sin Cara, I'm keen to see what Sunny does at the PPV. War Machine vs Revival should be a great contest. I enjoyed how you wrote the metamorphosis from Husky to Bray and look forward to seeing how it ends. You've done a good job making Iron Sheik unlikeable and Steamboat as we know is the ultimate babyface. Curious to see who leaves with the belt.
Main event build was again well done and I'm wondering will Taker get his soul or does Dibiase have an ace up his sleeve. Time to find out on the PPV...

Spongemania PPV - Strong opener to the show with Revival winning and the Taker appearance would get the crowd very fired up. I enjoyed how you booked King Booker cowardly tagging in and out and was pleased Sin Cara turned on him. Love the visual image of Booker's crown filled with beer on his head. The Bray/IRS match was well done and I liked the touch of Bray not being afraid of Taker. Very nice twist with Barker getting Sunny which I didn't see coming but I liked it. I was pleased to see Steamboat win but based on the ending it seems Iron Sheik isn't done with him yet.
Loved the ending of the show with Bearer selling out to Dibiase. That would be an epic moment. I didn't see this coming either. I was wondering maybe would Bray interfere but Bearer is a much better guy to be involved since it's a betrayal of Taker which would hurt far more.

Big fan of this write-up. You tend to deliver strong shows and I can see this being in the mix for the title. Great work.

Mr.Nice Guy

4 Posts Max

Feedback for SlickRic -

I like Punk having to claw his way up the ladder and wanting to prove himself. Tanahashi and The Briscoes are a good choice for title holders.

SWF: End of Days PPV – Ultimo Dragon vs Tanahashi – Great opening match to kick off proceedings. I enjoyed how you wrote it and the nearfalls towards the finish. The title change would get a great pop and the manner of the win would for sure have fans keen on a rematch.

Enjoyed the turn of Funaki leading to the Rios win. Based on what happens later I’m sensing a violent rematch between those two; Lawler using Damien was a nice touch and gives Jake a tougher challenge in future when it comes to his usual mind games.

Kennedy winning was done well and I like the image of him, sore throat and all, still announcing his name at the end.

Tag elimination match was very well written and the build up at the start got over well what a physical match we were in for. Particularly liked the touch of Funk getting the sledgehammer stuck in the Chamber wall. I think Funks winning was the right call.

Main event was great and I think again you booked it right because Punk being so arrogant needed to be taught a lesson. Especially liked the spit from Punk to Bruno’s face. That would get tremendous heat.

A thoughtful summing up at the end too which I agree with. Very strong PPV as I knew it would be. Great work.

Feedback for ShagNastii -

Very impressive level of detail in your back story for the authority figures. You put over British Strong Style very well. Liked Dunne's line that Hunter was a wolf in sheep's clothing. Nice shot by Trump on Ted's Fake News CNN too. Love the American Brave concept.

Very strong opening show. Curious to see what the plans would have been going forward. I'm thinking maybe Hunter aligns with British Strong Style in the end? Or might there have been a swerve and they side with Vince? JBL vs Zack Sabre Jr would have been great.

Feedback for daithi1989 -

Nice opening show and it seems the direction is Mahal vs Drew which is a cool idea given their history. Great angle with The Club turning on Balor and siding with AJ. That would be a super moment. Also enjoyed DDP doing the diamond cutter and it looks perhaps like it will be DDP and Orton; Diamond Cutter vs RKO which would be excellent.

On the second show, got a kick out of DDP telling Orton he will have to be quicker using his move against him. Great line. Balor causing a distraction made sense after what happened last show. You've done well building Nia vs Ronda. Loved the ending with DDP getting hit with the RKO from out of nowhere.

PPV - Young retaining surprised me but I like it. Club beating Cryme Time I think makes sense. Ronda vs Nia would be a great bout and I like that Ronda won. The Club winning the belts is a nice swerve and leaves them looking strong. Orton retaining I didn't see coming and the way it happened with you interfering gives DDP a reason to want revenge - and a rematch. Balor beating Style I think was the correct call and it sends the fans home happy.

Really enjoyed your build-up shows and I thought you booked the PPV intelligently. Great work. I'm wondering though who wins the chairs match between Drew and Jinder?

Mr. Guappa

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Feedback: Bounty Hunter

Roman Reigns as a heel is great. Okada is a great opponent for him too, probably the most marquee match-up of the competition for me.

I love The Usos, so having them feature strongly gets the thumbs up from me. Aligning them with Reigns works really well.

Everyone on your roster was showcased well, and all matches had a good backstory. I liked the stories for your 2 bonus picks, D-Lo and Naomi.

The Batman/Bane stuff would not be my cup of tea at all, but I love the originality and creativity of the picks.

A Brad Maddox Guy

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Necro -

Nice opening show, does a good job of setting the stage. Making Enzo GM seems a good move and you've written him & Hurricane very well. Heel Batista is always a good move.

I enjoyed the PPV; I could imagine myself being fully invested in Hurricane vs Enzo (investment in an Enzo match is something that NXT only managed once I believe) and I loved the finish. AoP vs Harper & Rowan would be an absolute war. D&D was very random but exactly the kind of thing heel Batista would hate.

I think you did a great job with Warrior promos; it's something I found very difficult to write in the past, due to lack of cocaine I assume :pac:
Great finish in the iron man match, despite all the cheating I think Lou comes out brilliantly for not tapping.

So much star power in the main event and you're right, Braun winning catapults him to the top & combining that with leading the ex Wyatts gives you a very credible champion. I think the toughest part of the next stage would be finding someone that can actually beat him.

This was longer than I realised, likely that most other feedback will be shorter but since Necro has had everything submitted for nearly two months now it's only fair :pac:

JP Liz V1

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Necrominus - NCW Natural Selection III

Wow that was an epic, well written PPV, so much effort and detail, JR and Jiminy Billy were great as commentary team, Strowman as champion winning against Warrior and Batista was a good move, definitely a top contender

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for A Brad Maddox Guy -

Excellent opening with an easy-to- read presentation. Really enjoyed how you built up the intrigue over who had been responsible for the attack and a nice twist from that. Love how you're using The Mountie as well.

MWA Supremacy - Good opening promo and I liked the Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum line. You're using your women's division well and I got a kick out of the Grapplemania rematch and Mayu later turning on Shirai. I like the story behind Williams and Simmons a lot. Main event was well written also as Eddie pulls out the win. Hogan failing to slam Andre was a nice touch.

Wrestlerama V - Two physical, hard-hitting contests to open the show which I liked. The No Holds Barred match felt like a war. I liked the detail of the sequences in the Shirai/Iwatani match, particularly the Tigerplex counter. I enjoyed the Hardcore match which had a real ECW style to it. Mountie getting put through the table would get a great pop. Mutoh winning was a cool moment. Love the Battle of the Crazy Chicks as an idea and that would go over really well. Didn't see Hogan's actions coming and that would generate big heat. Great feel-good moment to end the show with Eddie winning.

You booked everything thoughtfully and it was fun to read. Great work. I can see you doing well.

Mr. Guappa

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Feedback for Mr.Nice Guy

DELIGHTFUL - The Matt Hardy/Steiner match was excellent.
I found myself reading Matt's lines in his Broken voice. You captured the character and laid out the match superbly. Big Poppa Pump and his crew were ideal adversaries for Matt.

Elsewhere, that PPV would have delivered some great matches, with a nice mix of styles from brawls to high-flying contests.

I liked the Barry Windham heel turn. It tied two matches and stories together and made perfect sense.

You used you preview show well to tell the story of how the card came together. All matches are logical, and make good use of what is an excellent roster.

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for Necrominus -

Year in Review - Loved how you ended Hassan's reign in the style of Warrior vs Honky Tonk Man. Uncorrupted is a cool name for a faction and looking forward to seeing what they get up to.

Tuesday Night Destruction - I like that Rising Star Championship clause. Cool concept. You really managed to capture Enzo as a character and I could picture him saying every word. Great back-and-forth with him and Hurricane. Big Cass involvement was well done too. Heel Lou Thesz is such an interesting idea. Really liking this. The build for Chyna vs Beth was great and I liked Beth saying she based much of herself on Chyna. Great ending to the show with Braun getting involved and that is going to be a hell of a main event.

NCW Natural Selection III - Good opening match and I think Cass winning was the right call. Liked the segment where you played Dungeons and Dragons. Big Daddy turning was a cool moment; the little ones would be heartbroken about that. Got a laugh out of Jiminy pointing out Hurricane's cables! You booked the ladder match very well and the chokeslam through the table would be brilliant. I agree with your reasoning behind Bludgeon Brothers getting the win and I think you called it right.

Thesz winning was deadly. Loved the tease spot where Inoki goes ahead only for the referee to reverse the decision. That was great. Really digging this new side of Thesz you've created. Beth winning was well handled and doing it with the pedigree was a cool element. Nice show of respect at the end. The main event was a great read and I enjoyed the battle of strength early between Braun and Warrior. Loved the near falls at the end. At one stage I was convinced Warrior had won it. This match reminded me of that great Summerslam fatal 4 way last year. Nice touch at the end with Strowman standing alongside his old colleagues The Bludgeon Brothers.

Overall, a great read and I reckon this is your best show in the Draft. You really made the land of giants roster work very well and can see you polling strongly. Well done.

beakerjoe

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Hi Guys,

Man Im still hungover sleep wise from Mania weekend so sorry for any absence.

Voting cards will be sent out today and Voting can begin.

Hows everyone doing on reading shows? Shall we say Friday 4pm as teh deadline for vote sto be submitted?

On a personal note this year was the first year that the game felt like a chore. My heart just wasnt in it as it was in previous years and I felt burnt out and as a result my work is not on a level Im happy with. That said Ive read some great work from others thus far (still reading and feedback is coming) and that makes me really happy. Already some great choices for slammy awards emerging and I some really fun reads that will make the overall winner votes a tough call.

Mr.Nice Guy

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Friday sounds good to me. I believe I've six entries that I've still to read.

I've been very impressed with the write-ups I've read so far.

Necro

5 Posts Max

Friday is fine by me.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Voting cards being sent out

Furious Red, if you read thsi you have PMs turned off or a full mailbox, cant PM you

Bounty Hunter

6 Posts Max

Friday would be better for me too, have felt a bit burned out myself and think my imput suffered a bit this year and still have a lot to read atm

Necro

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beakerjoe wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Man Im still hungover sleep wise from Mania weekend so sorry for any absence.

Voting cards will be sent out today and Voting can begin.

Hows everyone doing on reading shows? Shall we say Friday 4pm as teh deadline for vote sto be submitted?

On a personal note this year was the first year that the game felt like a chore. My heart just wasnt in it as it was in previous years and I felt burnt out and as a result my work is not on a level Im happy with. That said Ive read some great work from others thus far (still reading and feedback is coming) and that makes me really happy. Already some great choices for slammy awards emerging and I some really fun reads that will make the overall winner votes a tough call.

I found the lag between draft picks and the show deadlines really killed the momentum again.

The new writing format was tough, I'd have like to flesh out a couple of my feuds a lot more but was pretty happy with how my end product turned out. I think any further changes would have me questioning whether I'd be interested in partaking tbh, as I sign up more for the writing than the roster selection.

Have most of my decisions made, although I'm struggling with the Double Pick Slammy, tbh.

I'll have to re-read the draft pick thread I think and compare to write-ups so that vote from me might be a bit later than the rest.

I found it a shame some folks still didn't submit any work (I know work commitments etc can get in the way), even a basic outline. That's the way it goes though, I guess.

beakerjoe

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Necrominus wrote: »

I found the lag between draft picks and the show deadlines really killed the momentum again.

The new writing format was tough, I'd have like to flesh out a couple of my feuds a lot more but was pretty happy with how my end product turned out. I think any further changes would have me questioning whether I'd be interested in partaking tbh, as I sign up more for the writing than the roster selection.

Have most of my decisions made, although I'm struggling with the Double Pick Slammy, tbh.

I'll have to re-read the draft pick thread I think and compare to write-ups so that vote from me might be a bit later than the rest.

I found it a shame some folks still didn't submit any work (I know work commitments etc can get in the way), even a basic outline. That's the way it goes though, I guess.

Regarding the lag between picks and deadline, I will take the blame on this. It was my call and while I had the best intentions, I feel I got it wrong with this call.

In relation to my own work, I will admit that a combination of burnout and personal life busy-ness resulted in my standard of work dropping. But I will say that when I did get around to writing, I felt the restrictions of posts took some of the fun away from me as I felt i had to squeeze alot of information and compress a lot of my storylines. I would rather the freedom to write as many posts as I like rather than the restrictions.

That said I would like to think those restrictions aided the burden on others who felts it was too daunting to compete in previous years. I would love to get peoples thoughts on the post restrictions now that the game is over.

I will go on record now that personally Im not a fan of the restictions.

Necro

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beakerjoe wrote: »

Regarding the lag between picks and deadline, I will take the blame on this. It was my call and while I had the best intentions, I feel I got it wrong with this call.

In relation to my own work, I will admit that a combination of burnout and personal life busy-ness resulted in my standard of work dropping. But I will say that when I did get around to writing, I felt the restrictions of posts took some of the fun away from me as I felt i had to squeeze alot of information and compress a lot of my storylines. I would rather the freedom to write as many posts as I like rather than the restrictions.

That said I would like to think those restrictions aided the burden on others who felts it was too daunting to compete in previous years. I would love to get peoples thoughts on the post restrictions now that the game is over.

I will go on record now that personally Im not a fan of the restictions.

You'll find I wrote about this at length in a PM just sent, but I HATE them. Killed any form of enjoyment I got from the Draft the past two years.

beakerjoe

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Necrominus wrote: »

You'll find I wrote about this at length in a PM just sent, but I HATE them. Killed any form of enjoyment I got from the Draft the past two years.

For me, from a writing perspective, i enjoy writing 4 shows in the lead up to a PPV, the twists and turns, swerving the reader in different directions, building turns and pay offs. Its what I love. After I wrote my Year in Review post, I felt my work and motivation went off a cliff as I was shoehorning everything into a single post. Condensing the work really took the fun out of it for me and My work shows thats.

On teh otherside, I love reading others shows in the format too. Yeah its more reading, but its so much more enjoyable. The reason I got into this game was reading MNGs work in 2013. The ups and downs with his Flair/Horsemen Del Rio feud got me hooked and itching to take part. I feel that edge of the game is gone with the restirctions.

Necro

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Nail on head for me too. Before I was a prolific poster on Boards (mainly Forum Games but that's beside the point) I lurked a lot on boards and the PW Draft was my favourite thing. I followed along the comps in 2014 and 2015 and loved the work put in to shows by some.

When I came in as a sub in 2016, I was really excited to put my Cena/Hardy main event out there to be read, it was something I had worked on for ages and is still my favorite piece of my own work. If I had to shoehorn that into four posts I would have been very disappointed as it was something that needed to be built over a number of shows.

I also enjoy reading the longer format, and I feel I can get a better grasp of people's rosters over a longer period rather than everything being crammed into a preview, one show and a two post PPV.

Maybe there's an option of seperating out the competitions?

Do the Draft as is, the involvement on that is still at a great level.

Then people vote on best roster.


Seperately then, you have the creative writing competition which is optional entry, and back to the old format. So we get the best of both worlds and those more interested in the write ups than the rosters get to express themselves without being limited to increase involvement.

Just an idea of course.

beakerjoe

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Well one idea I had was to have a diifuculty level.

Those who cant commit to a big post count could go into a Plate division similar to the rule sof last year, while those who want to go balls to the wall like me Necro and the like, battle it out in the Championship division where there are no restrictions.

Thos ewho post only 3 shows and under at the deadlines passing are only eligible for the Plate and those over that post threshold will be eligible for the Championship

Necro

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beakerjoe wrote: »

Well one idea I had was to have a diifuculty level.

Those who cant commit to a big post count could go into a Plate division similar to the rule sof last year, while those who want to go balls to the wall like me Necro and the like, battle it out in the Championship division where there are no restrictions.

Thos ewho post only 3 shows and under at the deadlines passing are only eligible for the Plate and those over that post threshold will be eligible for the Championship

No restrictions?

:eek::eek:

The possibilities...

I love it.

beakerjoe

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Necrominus wrote: »

No restrictions?

:eek::eek:

The possibilities...

I love it.

Its an outline of an idea, maybe some restrictions or we will have you posting 104 shows a year plus 12 ppvs. :eek:

With more people submitting work this I wouldnt want to revert to the old way and exclude anyone that way either. I feel this idea could be the best of both worlds.

Necro

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beakerjoe wrote: »

Its an outline of an idea, maybe some restrictions or we will have you posting 104 shows a year plus 12 ppvs. :eek:

With more people submitting work this I wouldnt want to revert to the old way and exclude anyone that way either. I feel this idea could be the best of both worlds.

:(:(

I shouldn't have said anything, but yes - that may very well have been my plan.:p

Seems like a great idea actually.

Mr. Guappa

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For me the write-ups format worked perfectly this year.
Four shows felt like an attainable total, and the 6 week limit suited my circumstances.
I would have struggled to get 4 shows together in less time, and similarly would not have completed any more than 4 shows in the 6 weeks.
So, selfishly, the format this year suited me down to the ground, and I felt 4 posts gave me plenty room to get all my ideas out there. Maybe I'm just not as creative as others :pac:

As I read it, the limit on posts was to encourage more write-ups. Given that the number of posters who submitted work is up considerably on last year, it seems to me that the changes worked as intended.
However, it seems that an unintended side-effect of that limit has been to limit the enjoyment of those who would previously have been the most active posters in the write-up phase.

As I mentioned, I felt that we got the balance right this year. But, the last thing we want to do is kill the game for those who have put the most into it in previous years, including running the thing.
I like Beakerjoes idea of a plate, but could that just turn into "elite vs plebs" for lack of a better phrase?
I have no answers by the way, just to add that I thoroughly enjoyed every aspect of the competition this year.

beakerjoe

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Mr. Guappa wrote: »

For me the write-ups format worked perfectly this year.
Four shows felt like an attainable total, and the 6 week limit suited my circumstances.
I would have struggled to get 4 shows together in less time, and similarly would not have completed any more than 4 shows in the 6 weeks.
So, selfishly, the format this year suited me down to the ground, and I felt 4 posts gave me plenty room to get all my ideas out there. Maybe I'm just not as creative as others :pac

Firstly its not selfish, its what suited you, so I am delighted that the rule changes aided your submissions. And believe me, from what ive read of yours, you are creative my friend, love what ive read thus far.

As I read it, the limit on posts was to encourage more write-ups. Given that the number of posters who submitted work is up considerably on last year, it seems to me that the changes worked as intended.

However, it seems that an unintended side-effect of that limit has been to limit the enjoyment of those who would previously have been the most active posters in the write-up phase.

As I mentioned, I felt that we got the balance right this year. But, the last thing we want to do is kill the game for those who have put the most into it in previous years, including running the thing.
I like Beakerjoes idea of a plate, but could that just turn into "elite vs plebs" for lack of a better phrase?
I have no answers by the way, just to add that I thoroughly enjoyed every aspect of the competition this year.

Well I wouldnt call it that, but it would be the players choice what division they ended up in. Its a a rough outline, and anything anyone could add, even if its just thoughts is greatly appreciated.

Mr.Nice Guy

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It's a double-edged sword really. I agree that in previous years you could flesh out feuds more - the problem though is you're doing that for an increasingly diminishing readership since most aren't prepared to read through that large level of content. The last few years proved that.

Personally I would rather have 3-4 posts being read by circa 15 people than 5-7 posts being read by maybe 8 people.

I don't think different tiers is the answer really because it will reduce things to a very dedicated core of about 5-6 people which will feel like the "main prize" and those who don't fancy they can devote the time to doing that may not bother entering anything.

I think the goal should be to find a way to broaden out the involvement as much as possible.

Mr. Guappa

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beakerjoe wrote: »

Well I wouldnt call it that, but it would be the players choice what division they ended up in. Its a a rough outline, and anything anyone could add, even if its just thoughts is greatly appreciated.

On further thought, the idea of a plate is growing on me. It could be a "best of both worlds" solution.

At the end of the day, the goal is to keep people engaged and keep participation high. You don't want to impose limits that are going to drive people away, for whatever reason. Having 20 people for the pick phase is a key element of the game, any less and it dilutes the fun of padding out your roster.

DM_7

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While I was glad of the reduced posts, I was concerned it would hurt the core posters.

I think an increase in posts but a reduction elsewhere would be best. Smaller roster or (my suggestion) limit number of PPV bouts.

Shag had a great idea about a smaller roster for next time, say 12 rounds instead of 15? That would allow an extra post or two but with less feuds to write about.

Limit PPVs to 6 bouts would limit the amount of writing people need to do. NXT Takeover New Orleans was only 5 matches.

That way the number of allowable posts could increase but volume of writing within each post is naturally reduced.

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for paulie21:

You did a good job establishing what happened after Pauliemania II. It's good to see Rusev featuring in a big match and him vs Angle is one I've always wanted to see. Some great matches set for the PPV. Honky Tonk Man vs Aiden English is a clever idea.

Wednesday Night Carnage - I like that you've kept Aiden English and Rusev together. I enjoyed the reference to Nikki and Brie's history at the previous event. Ryback laying out Goldberg would be a big moment. I'm enjoying how you're using your celebrity pick Hugh Jackman. Also liked how you handled the main event and how Angle and Rusev plus Sheamus and Tazz wound up getting involved. Sets things up perfectly for the PPV...

Pauliemania III - Great opener for the show and a cool way for Sheamus to win with a sudden Brogue Kick. You've done a very good job booking Giant Gonzalez. I thought Breezango were going to win for a moment. Honky Tonk Man getting his revenge was the right call. I like American Alpha winning the tag match. Nice way for Alexa to grab the title and I like the visual image of Brie locking in the yes lock on the ladder. Jackman winning made sense but I didn't predict that ending. Loved the booking for Goldberg vs Ryback and that's exactly how I would have done it too. Main event was well written and that was a good way for Rusev to get the win with Angle passing out. Also liked the spot where Angle paid tribute to Eddie with the frog splash.

Overall a high quality PPV write-up and all of the matches were interesting, which is impressive as I think you had one of the biggest cards. Great job.

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for Mr. Guappa:

Episode 1 - I really like how different this style is. It was well written and it provided a good insight into the characters like Austin and Long. Also liked how Becky is being presented as a promising up and comer. The Cesaro segment and then the end segment with Bucks and Scurll left the show on a great cliffhanger.

Episode II - I like the story you're telling with Stephanie. Curious how it ends up. Cool way to introduce Sasha. Nice use of Harley Race and the tease of who his partners will be. Becky challenging Asuka was well done. Great ending to the show with Cesaro attacking Austin. I've heard it said that the best villains are those with understandable motives and that's what you've made here for Cesaro. Looking forward to the fallout of this.

Episode III - Loved Austin's reaction to the private jet home idea. Awesome twist with Scurll aligning with Race. Didn't see it coming but I like it. Also enjoyed how you set up Ishii vs Elias, plus the return of Bill Alfonso in Sabu's corner. Cool way to reunite Jannetty and Snow for the PPV. You set up the Becky and Asuka match perfectly. Great ending and loved Teddy having to tell Steph that Austin was heading to the ring. Keen to see who emerges on top at March Madness.

March Madness PPV - Good way to start things off with the news Stephanie is arriving and the TMZ article emphasizes the stress she's facing. Nice opening match to kick things off and I agree with your logic on Ishii getting the win. I liked Candice getting the win which would be huge for her career. Good to see the young guys Ali and Cedric getting the tag win and also Sabu getting his moment after previous setbacks. Smart booking of Scurll and Race and I like the plans you have going forward for Harley. The Becky/Asuka match was well thought out and I agree Becky would gain a lot in defeat by the manner of the result. The main event delivered and I didn't see the twist coming. I like the visual of Long giving the middle finger to Steph as well! As you said afterwards it gives Austin an opponent going forward and I can imagine it would be great watching Austin hunting after Long looking to give him a stunner.

You did a great job with your write-up which was unique and distinctive, and I liked the focus on the characters and the issues that were affecting them. I can see you polling strong. Well done.

Mr. Guappa

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Feedback DM_7

The podcast format of your 2nd and 3rd shows worked well, and I thought it allowed you to put feuds over, and explain backstories in a concise fashion. Corey Graves was a natural fit as host.

For your PPV the Twitter format was unique, and definitely caught the eye. I thought it worked well and helped the flow of the PPV.

I liked a lot of your undercard. Riddle/Neville was a great feud, and given the results you could envisage both moving up the card together. I also thought that Pentagon had an interesting story, and was booked well. Toni Storm needed the PPV win after earlier losses. I also like that Tyson was used in a relatively low-profile match. Putting him in a higher spot may have jarred a bit with that roster.
Charlotte/Trish and Rock/Naito are dream matches. I liked that the winners in all 3 top matches was the younger, full-time talent. All results make sense. This promotion would be great to watch going forward, with Naito as Champion being chased by Riddle, Neville, maybe Pentagon in time.

JP Liz V1

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connemara man - wrestlemadness 2018

Vader was build up impressively and even if did not get the ppv win against heel Cena, still a main event star, also like the idea of Kevin Owens sticking up for Vader, I think a few tag matches with them would have been likely, good women's match too

JP Liz V1

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Spongey1975 - SPONGEMANIA 2K18

The Bachelorette match for Sunny with Barker winning was funny, Taker taking all Ted's gang before their match made me think he would win but no Ted proves everyone has a price with Bearer turning, Bray against his daddy and Steamboat vs. Sheikh also very well done

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for beakerjoe:

Well written preview post detailing the back story of the past year and offering an insight into the mindset of the characters.

Shows recap - love the idea of Rey vs Almas. The disgruntlement on the part of Almas towards Rey is believable, with him feeling he lacks the credit Rey gets. This would be a can't-miss match. Ciampa vs Gargano makes sense to go with and there's a lot of emotion in this one. I like the underdog tale behind Strong vs Corbin and could see Strong getting a good match out of him. I was wondering how Shayna would enter the equation and that was a good way to do it. O'Haire as Hassan's partner was a nice touch and I can see that combo getting over well. I enjoyed the Stallone and Rhyno skits and that's a good use of your celeb pick giving a big match vs Samoa Joe. I imagine Bret vs Benoit must have been one of the most difficult storylines you've had to write. There's some seriously heavy concepts for you to think about there and you've handled it well.

Beyond Chaos PPV - Strong opener and was pleased Gargano won. Also good to see HOH win as I think there's more that can be done with them. Nice win for the underdog Strong. Almas winning would be massive for his career and I like that you gave him the victory. I enjoyed Eva Marie getting her comeuppance and the cuffs was a nice element. I think Joe winning was the right call in his match. Bret passing out with the pain was a cool reference to his Mania 13 match where that happened to Austin; good to see Gargano get the feelgood win at the end and send the fans home happy.

Overall I think you did a great job with a very difficult subject matter. Well done.

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for Bounty Hunter -

Preview - Great use of Reigns and The Usos so far. Nice line from Reigns about killing The American Dream. Love seeing Bruce Wayne in the Draft and Doink is another logical element for the story. I forgot how many great Japanese stars you drafted and fitting to finish with Okada.

KOTR recap - Strong start and good to see The Usos get the win. I liked Naomi winning and doing it with the splash was a nice aspect. Interested to see the eventual plan for Reigns as I assumed him vs Dusty would be the PPV bout. Keen to see McGuinness and Ventura go at it as it's building nicely. The Mafia getting involved is a cool twist. Okada winning the tournament makes sense and I liked how you had him be depleted physically to raise a bit of uncertainty about the outcome. Okada vs Reigns will be a great bout featuring two of the biggest stars in the business at the minute.

PPV - Good to see D-Lo getting the win and the future storylines would be fun with Luca and his mafia friends after him. Also liked Naomi winning and the splash outside from Tamina was a great spot. Santo winning I think was a good call and it plays into the storyline with The Usos and Reigns as they turn on him. Again sensible booking with Val and Godfather losing. Of course I was rooting for my boy Bockwinkel but I have to admit Dusty winning was the right call. I liked how you booked Ventura vs Nigel and the way you dealt with it leaves some fun options ahead for Jesse. The comedy match ended the right way and I liked the touch of Bane getting the backbreaker. Great booking for the cage match. Wasn't expecting that result but loved it as it would be a career defining match for The Usos. Liked them doing Rikishi's splash from 2000 as well. Main event was well laid out and I wasn't sure which way the result would go; the booking makes sense as Reigns needed to get his comeuppance.

Overall another quality entry from the BWA and can see you being right in the title hunt like most years. Great work.

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for DM_7:

Amorphous PPV Review - Massive star power to kick things off and I like the initial use of Rock in a figurehead role which is fresh. The matches were well written and I particularly liked Del Rio vs Foley with Foley refusing to submit. Nice touch of putting the women's match on last and shows the strength of your division that you can do that and for it to work fine. Charlotte winning was the right move and sets things up for I'm guessing a huge bout with Trish.

Wrestling Fallout Podcast - I like the podcast concept as a way to fill in back story. Mick counting the pin for Rock beating Del Rio would be a great moment. Rock vs Naito and Foley vs Del Rio rematch are huge bouts. Setting up Trish vs Charlotte was done very well and you're booking this perfectly. Neville and Naito standing tall at the end gives them a lot of momentum.

Ice and Fire preshow podcast - Neville comes across as a great heel and I like you're referencing the Lucha Underground history of Cobb in his feud with Pentagon Dark. Keen to see who gets added in the Diamond Contract bout. Storm vs Carmella makes sense for the PPV. Adding Tyson alongside Fenix gives that match a much bigger buzz and give those guys a lot of welcome exposure.

Ice and Fire PPV - Love how you used Twitter to give your PPV coverage an authentic feel. That was nice and innovative. Neville winning with a Red Arrow on Riddle's leg was a good finish and the manner of the loss doesn't hurt Riddle since he wasn't 100 per cent. Tyson getting the win with Fenix made sense and Lethal coming as Holyfield was a nice touch. I wondered would Tyson go for the bite! I was pleased Toni got the win as I think she needed it more. Del Rio winning was logical and I could see this feud helping him the way Foley's feuds in the past helped HHH, Orton and Edge. Wasn't sure which way you'd go with Cobb and Pentagon Dark but I thought you concluded it well. Charlotte winning surprised me as I expected a Trish win but I liked how you did it; the moonsault miss would have been a cool spot. The Diamond Contract mystery entrant had a nice twist and Riddle winning was a great surprise. I was surprised also Naito beat Rock but I like that you've tried to push the current names and that win would be huge for him. Rock's a big enough star that he can lose a big match and not be hurt by it. Your post-PPV direction showed you put a lot of thought into your feuds.

Overall, a very well laid out PPV and with some of the most innovative ideas I've seen in this year's game along the way. Great work.

Mr.Nice Guy

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Have the voting cards been sent out? I didn't get one. There's a few users with names like mine so maybe it went there.

I believe I have one more show to review (Kolido) and then I'll start thinking about votes.

Necro

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Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Have the voting cards been sent out? I didn't get one. There's a few users with names like mine so maybe it went there.

I believe I have one more show to review (Kolido) and then I'll start thinking about votes.

I PMed the card Beaker sent on to you there, let me know if you got it.

Turns out there's three MNGs on boards :eek::eek:

(But only one original )

Mr.Nice Guy

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Necrominus wrote: »

I PMed the card Beaker sent on to you there, let me know if you got it.

Turns out there's three MNGs on boards :eek::eek:

(But only one original )

Cheers. I have it now.

A Brad Maddox Guy

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I just realised that Beaker says votes in by 4pm, surely midnight makes more sense? I'll be in work until at least 5pm tomorrow and there's zero chance I'll have votes in tonight as I (mistakenly) thought I had most of tomorrow night too. I'll hold my hands up and say that I didn't read the post properly as I was on on a toilet break at the time and it's my own fault for not going back and re-reading it until now.

DM_7

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Yes can we have more time for reading please? I purposely did nlt read anything before posting my shows and have struggled this week to read up, generally have been on my phone for internet and the evaluation thread is tough to even open depending on coverage.

A Brad Maddox Guy

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DM_7 wrote: »

Yes can we have more time for reading please? I purposely did nlt read anything before posting my shows and have struggled this week to read up, generally have been on my phone for internet and the evaluation thread is tough to even open depending on coverage.

Just a tip for that, if possible use the desktop site on your phone and use Mr Guappa's updated post with the show links here https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106632397&postcount=1435. That'll save your data from loading trying to load the hundred images on every page.

A Brad Maddox Guy

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Some more feedback:

Connemara Man

As a big Miz fan I’m sure I’d love Miztourage vs Team Mizdow. Also I’m a fan of Tye and this would be a fun match. Bayley vs Lita is one of those matches the Draft is made for and I’d be in full agreement with Lita coming out on top. The stipulation of the Miz vs KO match is perfect for Miz & would put Owens over strong; I’d be interested in seeing how you would have written a face Kevin Owens as its something I’d personally struggle with. Cena vs Vader would be an excellent match, possibly one of the best the Draft could offer and I think you’ve made a great show with your roster.

Kolido

Reading that introductory show reminded me how stacked your roster is, I’d legitimately have no idea what the main event of Kingdomkalling would be. New Age Outlaws joining NWO was a great swerve & the whole NWO vs the World aspect of your roster flowed very well. I genuinely laughed at “Scroll on a Poll”. Edge vs Scott Hall in a ladder match is a legit dream match and you did it brilliantly. Nash vs Sid is a huge match, I’m always shocked how low Sid tends to go. Didn’t see Chuck coming, does he walk out of King of the Castle as champion or will the NWO even let him get that far? These were all very good shows.

Mr.Nice Guy

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I wouldn't have a problem with an extension for reading.

JP Liz V1

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DM_7 - ICE and FIRE PPV

Machismo Holyfield the women's title match between Charlotte and Trish was great, a dream many would like to see, surprised The Rock lost but Superstar Genius Naito can go on to be the top dog at ICE Wrestling, very well put together thought out ppv

Mr. Guappa

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Feedback beakerjoe

Your preview post told a great story of how your roster came together, and outlining the motivations of everyone.
I wanted the Wolves to win against HOH, but can understand HOH going over at this point.
Eva Marie and Nikki Cross were used perfectly, and Baszler was introduced well. Baszler v Cross would be a good feud moving forward.
Samoa Joe vs. Sly Stallone was a great pairing. Rhyno training Stallone was just excellent. Really enjoyed that.
Almas versus Rey was another great pairing, a dream match. Almas winning was 100% the correct move.
Fair play for tackling Benoit head on. Very brave, and you told that story superbly.
I didn't see the Gargano swerve coming, but it was absolutely the right move. Great booking.
You have a very strong roster, and I felt that all your characters had well thought out stories, and strong motivations.

Feedback paulie21

Putting Hugh Jackman against Shane was a great idea. Would surely gain a lot of publicity for your card. I thought they had a good feud, and Jackman winning was the right call.
I was glad to see Breezango get on the PPV. Hoped they'd pull out the win, but realistically Gonzalez winning was the correct call.
Nice to see Aiden English kept as Rusev' sidekick, and a feud with Honky Tonk was a natural fit.
I wondered how you'd pair off your top guys, as you could have went a number of ways. Rusev/Angle gets a huge thumbs up from me, and WGTT/AA is a match deserving of the 2/3 falls stipulation. Ryback/Goldberg is a natural pairing.
Great job.

+1 for the extension until tomorrow night. I've read everything through more than once, but would like the added time to get my votes in order.

JP Liz V1

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A Brad Maddox Guy wrote: »

I just realised that Beaker says votes in by 4pm, surely midnight makes more sense? I'll be in work until at least 5pm tomorrow and there's zero chance I'll have votes in tonight as I (mistakenly) thought I had most of tomorrow night too. I'll hold my hands up and say that I didn't read the post properly as I was on on a toilet break at the time and it's my own fault for not going back and re-reading it until now.

+ 1 for extension

A Brad Maddox Guy

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Bounty Hunter

I really loved the whole Bockwinkel & Batman schtick in your opening post, it’s particularly good timing as I’ve recently started reading Batman comics for the first time. Also you’re scarily good at writing Roman Reigns promos :pac: Samoan Dynasty are a really good faction, I reckon you’ve done a better job writing them than WWE would. I’m glad you got Reigns vs Dusty in there, if there was any doubt about getting Reigns booed this would make sure of it. You’ve actually packed so many great matches into KotR this could have been your main PPV! As expected I loved all the Batman stuff, especially how you adapted the struggle to trade D’Lo to make a Don Corleone character.

Your stacked roster makes for a great Wrestlepalooza. Good mix of fun, quality matches and stonewall dream matches. Reigns vs Okada, wow, the Tag Title cage match would likely be amazing & the same goes for Snuka vs El Santo. While this might please Monday Night Grappling more than BWA, Nick Bockwinkel was so much fun to read.

This is essentially how I viewed Reigns after that first promo btw

Daithi1989

The Club turning on Finn was a cool moment, this feud is something I long to see in real life. The battle of the RKO vs The Diamond Cutter is one I want to see so that was a cool way to end the 2nd show. I would definitely buy this PPV, good mix of star power with Ronda and then the two main matches would be stellar.

SlickRic

Huge Punk fan here & the way you introduce him was great. Pr!ck Punk is awesome and this is a very believable way of achieving it, especially when you counter that with the ‘class’ of Tanahashi.

Tanahashi vs Ultimo Dragon is a very good match, the elimination chamber was a cool concept & Kaientai feuding sounds good going forward. Punk vs Bruno is a great feud, I loved the sequence where they blocked moves but instead of it being a “this is awesome” moment Punk goes mega heel with the spit. I’d love to see the rematch.

paulie21

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Yeah I'd like the extension too, think I've read 5 entries so far

JP Liz V1

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Kolido - Kingdomkalling

First off winner for me with Christian on board good call having the Brood win the tag titles, Hall and Edge ladder was well done and ending the show with Chuck Norris as the heavyweight title champion just pure genius, a top contender this year

Mr.Nice Guy

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Feedback for Kolido:

Great promotion introduction. Laurinaitis works very well as a GM and you explained your tag and women's divisions very well too.

Episode 1 - Nice opening segment and I liked the NWO trashing the Cutting Edge set. I liked the reveal by the Outlaws of the NWO shirts after their win. I laughed at Eve saying to Wendi 'what are you, 60?' Loved the chaos of the main event and it felt like a real war out there. Good cliffhanger to end on too.

Episode 2 - Pleased to see Christian and Gangrel win, and looks like Titus and Young are set for a match with each other. Enjoyed seeing the return of Dean Douglas. The contract signing was well handled and I liked how you set things up for KingdomKalling.

KingdomKalling PPV - Fun opener with Slater winning by cheating. Surprised to see Young win over Titus but I liked it. Glad that you gave Christian and Gangrel the tag title victory which I think was the right call. I wasn't sure who would win between Otunga and Douglas and I thought you booked that well. Loved the ladder match and the spot with Hall doing the Fall Away slam; super ending with Edge spearing Hall but Hall still getting the win; I think this was my favourite match of the card. You booked the women's match well and I liked the line about was it history repeating itself with Richter getting screwed. Nice to see Richter win in the end. I enjoyed the twist in the main event and it reminded me a bit of Mania 9 and how Hogan won the title over Yokozuna.

Overall great work and a very enjoyable read.

I believe I've reviewed all entries. Now comes the tricky part of deciding the votes.