PW Boards Draft XI - Discussion Thread!

Uncle Walt

5 Posts Max

Steiner was top of my list for the next round! Fabulous value for this stage of the game

Furious-Red

5 Posts Max

Not to well up on NJPW so may get researching for my pick for next round

daithi1989

5 Posts Max

Was Paulie's draft of Rusev/Wade from last night deemed valid? Or is it still being investigated?

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Rule query id like to run by you guys

Dark matches and try out matches will not be valid cases this year for selecting a wrestler

What are peoples feeling on dark matches making someone eligible for a promotion....

Im tempted to say its ok, but since its in the rules i dont want to ok something thats a rule break

DM_7

5 Posts Max

What is defined as a dark match?

If the match happened on front of the paying audience then it should be allowed as part of the show.

Lots of ROH bouts for example do not happen in TV.

Uncle Walt

5 Posts Max

beakerjoe wrote: »

Rule query id like to run by you guys




What are peoples feeling on dark matches making someone eligible for a promotion....

Im tempted to say its ok, but since its in the rules i dont want to ok something thats a rule break

Thats probably a rule that needs looking at considering WWE is so open with Indie Feds these days...

LeeJM

5 Posts Max

Not to be the bad guy but I think try outs and dark matches should not count as an appearance in a promotion

DM_7

5 Posts Max

I have found too many ROH people so I am struggling to decide who to pick. Please give me a few minutes. I found one so unexpected I really want to pick it just because I never knew it happened :P

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

I would agree with LeeJM on dark matches not qualifying as someone as meeting the criteria of having represented that promotion. I'm purely thinking from a WWE perspective there though, where it is pretty black and white, may be different for ROH.


One other bit of housekeeping. From the Picks thread, for the next round,

The second stipulation affects the players from 5-10. They must pick someone whom wrestled in NJPW

I think that should read 6-10? Only affects ABradMaddoxGuy.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

I would agree with LeeJM on dark matches not qualifying as someone as meeting the criteria of having represented that promotion. I'm purely thinking from a WWE perspective there though, where it is pretty black and white, may be different for ROH.


One other bit of housekeeping. From the Picks thread, for the next round,



I think that should read 6-10? Only affects ABradMaddoxGuy.

Typo error. It should read 6 to 10. My bad

DM_7

5 Posts Max

Let me know if I missed any, moving at good pace.


Uncle Walt: HBK Shawn Michaels; Brian Pillman; Legion of Doom; Hayes and Gordy The Fabulous Freebirds;

Lord TSC: Brock Lesnar; Big E and Xavier Woods; Shinsuke Nakamua; Dean Ambrose;

JP Liz V1: Daniel Bryan; Christopher Daniels and Kazarian; Ethan Carter III aka Derrick Bateman; John Morrison and Joey Mercury; Austin Aries;

Spongey1975: The Undertaker; Ricky The Dragon Steamboat; Ted Di Biase and Irwin R Schyster; Bray Wyatt;

DM_7: The Rock; Jake The Snake Roberts; Tetsuya Naito; Alberto Del Rio; Corey Graves and King Neville;

Mr. Guappa: Stone Cold Steve Austin; The Young Bucks; Cesaro and Chris Hero; Becky Lynch;

Bounty Hunter: Roman Reigns; Dusty Rhodes; Kazuchika Okada; Kenta Kobashi and Mitsuharu Misawa;

beakerjoe: Bret Hitman Hart; Samoa Joe; Chris Benoit; Rey Mysterio;

Furious-Red: Seth Rollins; Jeff Hardy; Sami Zayn; Aleister Black;

Necrominus: Batista; Ultimate Warrior; Braun Strowman; Authors of Pain;

Mr.Nice Guy: Chris Jericho; Broken Matt Hardy; Kenny Omega and Kota Ibushi; Scott Steiner;

ShagNastii: Triple H; Vincent Kennedy McMahon; Pete Dunne and Trent Seven; Tyler Bate;

paulie21: Kurt Angle; Goldberg; Bobby Roode; Rusev and Wade Barrett;

connemara man: John Cena; The Miz; Kevin Owens; Vader;

A Brad Maddox Guy: Hulk Hogan; Eddie Guerrero; Andre The Giant; Dolph Ziggler;

daithi1989: Randy Orton; AJ Styles; Finn Balor; Gallows and Anderson;

Kolido: Edge; Sting; Kevin Nash; Billy Gunn and Road Dogg - New Age Outlaws;

LeeJM: Macho Man Randy Savage; Scott Hall & Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig; Shibata and Goto; Will Ospreay;

Alfred Borden: "Rowdy" Roddy Piper; Ric Flair; Owen Hart and British Bulldog; Ravishing Rick Rude;

SlickRic: Mick Foley; CM Punk; Hiroshi Tanahashi; Terry Funk;

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Right now, I think dark matches are such a different thing down the years as well in different promotions as they evolved.

I personally think dark matches as such should be allowed to a certain point. as it was said earlier, a dark match for one promotion is different for another bigger promotion. I like to reward research too when people find picks. But I will rule with the majority here on this matter.

On another note, I have to rule on a different matter.

A pick was made yesterday that slipped through me without a second thought.

Paulie drafted Rusev and Wade Barrett.

I assumed they went last year as a team and didnt give the pick a review. Nor did Paulie ask for clarification.

Now its been 24 hours and only now was it brought to my attention. The pick is not good, it doesnt fall into a tag team pick under the rules. I cant see many matches they actually tagged as a duo. They arent eligible for those reasons.

But since they were missed by me and thats my fault, not Paulies. I am ruling here that the pick stands but shall not be a team going forward. I understand thats probably unfair to a point, but its the best and most reasonable thing I can do.

I hope this clarifies things.

Sorry for any inconvience and I hope you all continue, but understand if you arent happy. Thats on me

DM_7

5 Posts Max

On the basis so many picks happened since the Rusev and Wade duo then I support decision to allow it.

Spongey1975

6 Posts Max

I dont agree with that decision. The error was highlighted immediately and Paulie was well aware that Wade Barrett wasn't a valid tag partner (only after the discussion on this thread). I was not aware of any rule that means a wrong pick becomes a valid pick after 24 hours

I'll stand by the decision but i just disagree with it

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Spongey1975 wrote: »

I dont agree with that decision. The error was highlighted immediately and Paulie was well aware that Wade Barrett wasn't a valid tag partner (only after the discussion on this thread). I was not aware of any rule that means a wrong pick becomes a valid pick after 24 hours

I'll stand by the decision but i just disagree with it

There is no rule. Its a judgement call

Further more all i can say its my fault. It only came to my attention in the last half hour.

With so many picks since it be unfair to paulie to re do his pick. Thats my call. Sorry guys. I really hope you arent too angry with my call

paulie21

5 Posts Max

I think its best if I remove Barrett from my roster, I never had any plans for him anyway I was drafting Rusev and it popped into my head did he team with anyone and I remembered League Of Nations but didn't realise the faction rule until DM7 mentioned it.

daithi1989

5 Posts Max

When highlighted last night, Paulie did admit he was willing to for-go Wade?

But your the boss Joe, and if you decide to allow it, no issues here.

DM_7

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paulie21 wrote: »

I think its best if I remove Barrett from my roster, I never had any plans for him anyway I was drafting Rusev and it popped into my head did he team with anyone and I remembered League Of Nations but didn't realise the faction rule until DM7 mentioned it.

He does have a partner now so a swap would be a fair option.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

daithi1989 wrote: »

When highlighted last night, Paulie did admit he was willing to for-go Wade?

But your the boss Joe, and if you decide to allow it, no issues here.

I didnt see the posts at all until now. I was only made aware a half hour ago from a pm asking for clarity.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

daithi1989 wrote: »

When highlighted last night, Paulie did admit he was willing to for-go Wade?

But your the boss Joe, and if you decide to allow it, no issues here.

If you wanna drop Wade that would be the honourable thing but its very unfair to you considering how many picks went since then. Its not an ideal solution, i dont feel one exists and thats down to my own oversight of missing it initially. I wont be asking you to change.

Whats done is done and it was wrong, but i feel we should proceed anyway.

Im sorry guys, playing the WW game over in forum games took my concentration this past few days and ive ****ed up, not pauloe or any of you guys. Its me

Im sorry

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

DM_7 wrote: »

He does have a partner now so a swap would be a fair option.

If hes happy to swap Wade for his other partner then ill allow it, but i wont force paulie to do that either.

Necro

5 Posts Max

Hehehe...

Whoops. Sowwy Joe :P

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Necrominus wrote: »

Hehehe...

Whoops. Sowwy Joe :P

Im an addict. Wasnt even gonna play. Best game for me yet

Necro

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beakerjoe wrote: »

Im an addict. Wasnt even gonna play. Best game for me yet

Me too... although.. it's caused quite an amount of hassle... I'm gonna leave it at that obviously as there's another place for that discussion

paulie21

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beakerjoe wrote: »

DM_7 wrote: »

He does have a partner now so a swap would be a fair option.

If hes happy to swap Wade for his other partner then ill allow it, but i wont force paulie to do that either.

I’m happy either way. I’ll take said partner if people don’t have any complaints

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

paulie21 wrote: »

I’m happy either way. I’ll take said partner if people don’t have any complaints

You're a good lad Paulie.

Any objections......

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Looking back i missed a whole page worth if posts. Blame me. .... necro too a little but mainly me

DM_7

5 Posts Max

paulie21 wrote: »

I’m happy either way. I’ll take said partner if people don’t have any complaints

No complaints Paulie, whatever suits you.

A Brad Maddox Guy

4 Posts Max

Sorry folks, it'll be around 6 before I get to make my pick as I'm at work and can't remember everyone on my list that's actually eligible for me

LeeJM

5 Posts Max

Great pick by Brad. As soon as I saw the RoH round in for the first 5 of this round I knew there was no chance Kyle O'Reilly made it through unpicked.

DM_7

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A Brad Maddox Guy wrote: »

Sorry folks, it'll be around 6 before I get to make my pick as I'm at work and can't remember everyone on my list that's actually eligible for me

Great pick Brad. Was going to pick them but had to go with King Neville as (like I said on thread) he was my favourite performer last year.

Good picks in the ROH part (If i say so myself). Glad three true ROH stars were picked in Aries, Cole and O'Reilly.

Thumbs up for the stip.

DM_7

5 Posts Max

Those damn dudley's! I think Bully Ray, as a former TNA champ, means they can't be picked together.

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

Pick made and PM sent. Happy with the Dudleys.

Mr. Guappa

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DM_7 wrote: »

Those damn dudley's! I think Bully Ray, as a former TNA champ, means they can't be picked together.

Yep, totally overlooked that. I'll have a re-think.

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Yep, totally overlooked that. I'll have a re-think.

Pick updated. Really struggled with that stip.

Necro

5 Posts Max

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Pick updated. Really struggled with that stip.

Yeah I'm having similar issues in finding something to fit my roster. Plans 1 and 2 were already picked so I'm on plan pick anybody :P

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

Has Tully competed in NJPW? Looked at them for my pick but couldn't find something for him in New Japan, only had a quick look mind?

A Brad Maddox Guy

4 Posts Max

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Has Tully competed in NJPW? Looked at them for my pick but couldn't find something for him in New Japan, only had a quick look mind?

He had a single match in 1995

Necro

5 Posts Max

Pick up and PM sent. I think Inoki suits my roster. Had a couple of other ways I could go after a look on wikipedia, but there's a few directions I can go with him.

Mr. Guappa

5 Posts Max

A Brad Maddox Guy wrote: »

He had a single match in 1995

Cheers. That's a cracking pick.

Uncle Walt

5 Posts Max

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Has Tully competed in NJPW? Looked at them for my pick but couldn't find something for him in New Japan, only had a quick look mind?

Sorry I should’ve said it in my post but he wrestled Tatsumi Fujinami in New Japan in 1995 and Arn wrestled in all the WCW/New Japan co events in 1991

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Epic picks.

Yeah the world title rule knocked the dudleys on the head.

On the flip side uncle walt does it again.

beakerjoe

6 Posts Max

Uncle Walt wrote: »

Sorry I should’ve said it in my post but he wrestled Tatsumi Fujinami in New Japan in 1995 and Arn wrestled in all the WCW/New Japan co events in 1991

Both eligible. Great pick

JP Liz V1

4 Posts Max

Kolido wrote: »

Draft pick No. 5 for Kolido Promotions

On request from our No. 1 pick, we are proud to announce the signing of

...Captain Charisma...

Christian.



Roster:

Edge
Sting
Nash
New Age Outlaws
Christian

The pick of the draft

connemara man

5 Posts Max

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The pick of the draft

I thought it was in the unwritten rules that only you were able to draft him

ShagNastii

5 Posts Max

Every year. It's like somebody has drafted your child

JP Liz V1

4 Posts Max

connemara man wrote: »

I thought it was in the unwritten rules that only you were able to draft him

Too much fantasy dirty smut would be written, no in ring wrestling I would not do him justice

Kankan14

Been watching the picks thread for a couple of days and I can't believe some of the names that are still up for grabs.

There's certain rosters I see and think I have the perfect guy for a feud with that pick and then said drafter goes a totally different way. Its amazing how many permutations there are in directions you could go.

I'll follow on closely anyway. Also thanks guys for making it an easier read this year. One of the big reasons for not much outside participation is its such a big undertaking to read it all. Its all good content and deserves to be read. So to sum up the new version (of 3 pieces per drafter I believe?) should be a much easier read.

Great work!

Furious-Red

5 Posts Max

Pick made and Pm sent. Was worried with the NJPW rule but glad i could still get Cody (Scrull was one of my back up picks)

LeeJM

5 Posts Max

Pick made and PM sent to Joe. I am delighted with that pick. After 5 rounds I can honestly say I am delighted with my roster so far.