Fodder Crisis

JJayoo

Have a plum tree that has been fully in flower since 15th of January, weird weather weather.

tabby aspreme

JJayoo wrote: »

Have a plum tree that has been fully in flower since 15th of January, weird weather weather.

Saw a few honey bees checking out some dishevelled flowers in Dublin today.

Birdnuts

Stuff is several weeks ahead of were it should be - bit of a shock on the way next week though and I wouldn't be surprised if we had a prolonged wintery spell well into the spring proper

Say my name

Birdnuts wrote: »

Stuff is several weeks ahead of were it should be - bit of a shock on the way next week though and I wouldn't be surprised if we had a prolonged wintery spell well into the spring proper

The weather forum is thata way. >>>



The only thing certain about the weather is the uncertainty.

But atm it looks like Spring is on the way after next week's curfuffle.

blackdog1

Say my name wrote:

But atm it looks like Spring is on the way after next week's curfuffle.

NZ had an unbelievable spring and the wettest silage season in 65 years. Loads of grass though. And the year before they had a draught.... Think if this weather keeps up we might see the same.

Say my name

blackdog1 wrote: »

NZ had an unbelievable spring and the wettest silage season in 65 years. Loads of grass though. And the year before they had a draught.... Think if this weather keeps up we might see the same.

Nobody knows.

Plan for worst. Hope for the best.

_Brian

Silage feeding quite quickly here so we’ve increased ration to be sure we’re covered until mid April.

Ground is covering well here which will help.

mengele

Say my name wrote: »

The weather forum is thata way. >>>



The only thing certain about the weather is the uncertainty.

But atm it looks like Spring is on the way after next week's curfuffle.

The problem is what does spring involve? Is it plenty of mild weather, snow or rain

Mooooo

Pissing rain here, had my calved cow's out by day the last 5 days, in today. Big herd of 4 at the minute might do damage lol

Say my name

mengele wrote: »

The problem is what does spring involve? Is it plenty of mild weather, snow or rain

Usually southerly or southwesterly or even westerly weather or maybe even northerly or perhaps even easterly winds.

I won't patronize or misinform.

The charts are on here.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/

I know farmers as a whole are famous for looking for handouts. But this ain't primary school anymore.

(Benefits of above is that the charts often show different forecasts/outcomes than what online celebrity shock jock end of the world types are forecasting).

Timmaay

Mooooo did you dry off everything after? I still got 19 stale milking oad to get the liquid bonus here.

Mooooo

Timmaay wrote: »

Mooooo did you dry off everything after? I still got 19 stale milking oad to get the liquid bonus here.

I did. Dried off Dec 22 I think. Good share of April calvers were 1st calvers so will benefit from longer dry period. Sold the empty cows first week of Jan and they made more than what I would have gotten milking them and the April calvers on for Jan. Felt strange drying off those cow's but did focus the mind in terms of importance of compact calving for spring if you want the 3 weeks off

Mortelaro

Say my name wrote: »

Nobody knows.

Plan for worst. Hope for the best.

+1

memorystick

Just saw a lad pay €45 for a 4*4 bale of good hay for horses! He bought 3 and wants 10 more.

Never wrestle with pigs

Had 3 lads call into me today looking for fodder. I've plenty but have any extra promised to a lad near me. Everyone saying the same thing cow's flying trough silage. If you think your short start looking because it seems that lads are starting to realise it now.

RedPeppers

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Had 3 lads call into me today looking for fodder. I've plenty but have any extra promised to a lad near me. Everyone saying the same thing cow's flying trough silage. If you think your short start looking because it seems that lads are starting to realise it now.

Local paper full of ads with silage for sale seems any amount of it available around here .guess we weren’t affected like a lot with the drought

buffalobilly

how much would good quality bales of silage
77.4 dmd 29.2% dm be making ?

Mad_maxx

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Had 3 lads call into me today looking for fodder. I've plenty but have any extra promised to a lad near me. Everyone saying the same thing cow's flying trough silage. If you think your short start looking because it seems that lads are starting to realise it now.

Tonnes of it out there

Wildsurfer

Tonnes of it in Donegal, Roscommon, Sligo, Galway etc. Come down to Tipp and Cork and see how much you'll find

Never wrestle with pigs

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Tonnes of it out there

Not around here anyway. Anything that goes up is snapped up in a few minutes. Different areas affected differently.

Mad_maxx

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Not around here anyway. Anything that goes up is snapped up in a few minutes. Different areas affected differently.

The country isn't that big, no shortage overall

Mad_maxx

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Tonnes of it in Donegal, Roscommon, Sligo, Galway etc. Come down to Tipp and Cork and see how much you'll find

Plenty in the North East too

dohc turbo2

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Plenty in the North East too

seems to be plenty in the south too , big yards of silage going for sale and prices starting to drop too , u can buy silage for 25 -30 a bale now , hay was 50 selling now for 35-40

mengele

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Tonnes of it in Donegal, Roscommon, Sligo, Galway etc. Come down to Tipp and Cork and see how much you'll find

I'm from cork and there's plenty around me. I know a few lads that put ads up with silage for sale on done deal and they both said they got 0 phone calls about it

whelan2

mengele wrote: »

I'm from cork and there's plenty around me. I know a few lads that put ads up with silage for sale on done deal and they both said they got 0 phone calls about it

Come April lads might be looking for it

mf240

Are the lads in the west that got silage last year sending it back this year. Or are we not mentioning that.

charolais0153

mf240 wrote: »

Are the lads in the west that got silage last year sending it back this year. Or are we not mentioning that.

I dont know anyone that got silage from the east before around here

mf240

charolais0153 wrote: »

I dont know anyone that got silage from the east before around here

The Ifa were collecting it up and sending it West last year.

Aravo

The fodder crisis last year was not there one morning but occured later on that afternoon. And there was only a crisis when it hit the ag ministers county.

green daries

Most of the severe shortage was in Donegal Sligo area as in north west Last year people who were short in the West, South west last year will be short most years but the local surplus sorts them out

grassroot1

Mad_maxx wrote:

The country isn't that big, no shortage overall

No doubt but it would cost you to transport it.

tabby aspreme

Plenty of silage bales on the move around kildare over the last few days, most of it was not going too far I would think, except for two artic loads each carrying 33 bales.

Timmaay

mf240 wrote: »

Are the lads in the west that got silage last year sending it back this year. Or are we not mentioning that.

It wasn't worth my whole last yr sending silage west from here, transport would of doubled the cost. And I absolutely cannot see it being worth while doing the reverse now, especially if all we'd be getting would be low DM September bales. Beet etc which is plentiful enough around the south east alot better value.

However fair point about the stuff that was donated last year.

older by the day

Aravo wrote: »

The fodder crisis last year was not there one morning but occured later on that afternoon. And there was only a crisis when it hit the ag ministers county.

Well I suppose its an important county 😊, but memory's are short, there was loads of silage made in 2017, but cattle were housed in late Sept, and were still inside till early May 18 in some places

Aravo

older by the day wrote:

Well I suppose its an important county 😊, but memory's are short, there was loads of silage made in 2017, but cattle were housed in late Sept, and were still inside till early May 18 in some places

Judging by the look of Páirc Uí Chaoimh today in the important county, they could have done with a few shores. I thought the land down there was free draining.

Keep Sluicing

Aravo wrote: »

Judging by the look of Páirc Uí Chaoimh today in the important county, they could have done with a few shores. I thought the land down there was free draining.

Its free draining alright, but it gets watelogged with each high tide.

older by the day

We keep the good fields for dairy cows, do you think we'd waste a fine dry field for playing football. Your probably from one of those places that the only green field in the parish is the gaa pitch. Joking of course, theirs good and bad everywhere and plenty in between

MeTheMan

mf240 wrote: »

Are the lads in the west that got silage last year sending it back this year. Or are we not mentioning that.

The few I was talking to that got silage last year would have sent it back on the lorry it came on if they knew what was under the wrap. Bales of **** that where in the way in someone's yard the last few years. Let's not pretend great stuff was donated. But, some were glad to get it at the same time.

Water John

The pitch in PUC was always sh1te. Cork hurlers prefer to play in Thurles.

newholland mad

MeTheMan wrote: »

The few I was talking to that got silage last year would have sent it back on the lorry it came on if they knew what was under the wrap. Bales of **** that where in the way in someone's yard the last few years. Let's not pretend great stuff was donated. But, some were glad to get it at the same time.

What I seen leaving around here was all as good in that it was what the farmers themselves were using also a fair share of hay which it's easy to see what's what. But eaten bread is soon forgotten and all that

Wildsurfer

mengele wrote: »

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Tonnes of it in Donegal, Roscommon, Sligo, Galway etc. Come down to Tipp and Cork and see how much you'll find

I'm from cork and there's plenty around me. I know a few lads that put ads up with silage for sale on done deal and they both said they got 0 phone calls about it

West Cork doesn't count that's too far from the rest of the world! Check done deal now hardly no silage in the south. Im paying €45/bale delivered. Just needed the peace of mind of not running out the start of April if worse comes to pass.

mahoney_j

whelan2 wrote: »

Come April lads might be looking for it

If I was tight and found 50/100 bales for 25 /30 id buy now ,lots of grass around granted but if there’s a shortage in March/April demand will be huge and price higher and feed may not be there ,if left over so be it

restive

Silage Bales being delivered around here @ 30 for a Thousand euro.

Muckit

Into the yard? Not bad at all if they were half decent.

farawaygrass

Any amount of silage in Galway area. I put some up a week ago and I’d say ten plus adds went up that day too. No calls either

patsy_mccabe

Water John wrote: »

The pitch in PUC was always sh1te. Cork hurlers prefer to play in Thurles.

Frank Murphy says it's good enough. :cool:

Keepgrowing

4kgs of Palm Kernel will reduce a dry cows demand for silage by 40%. No brainier compared to buying lucky bags

kevthegaff

Keepgrowing wrote: »

4kgs of Palm Kernel will reduce a dry cows demand for silage by 40%. No brainier compared to buying lucky bags

How much a ton?

mengele

Keepgrowing wrote: »

4kgs of Palm Kernel will reduce a dry cows demand for silage by 40%. No brainier compared to buying lucky bags

Out of curiosity how would you feed that? Also is it just a dust or ration or what type?

Keepgrowing

mengele wrote: »

Out of curiosity how would you feed that? Also is it just a dust or ration or what type?

It’s meal as in not pellets. Feed out silage and spread on top. A feeder would be ideal. We hired a diet feeder for 6 weeks to feed it. Cows unbelievably content even though grub all eaten by 9pm