WW XXI: Christmas Chaos!

Angus WW

I'm not voting Tegan and I'm not voting Frank. Neither, to me, are wolves, at least based on suspicions and what I've seen so far. I'm more than happy to re-examine tomorrow but I won't be voting for either.

What were the arguement for Frank btw? Tegan, I get, for the heavy handed tactic this morning, but what did Frank do?

Conor WW

Nigel WW wrote: »

keeping a close eye anyway Conor!

Well as much as I'd prefer to live, I'm expendable so will take my medicine and curse you all in the afterlife:D

Jake WW

Conor WW wrote:

And what info do we get? Nothing until a priest comes out or we get the results.

Conor, you keep on living in the here and now and I'll keep on thinking about later and about after I'm dead and can directly help the village, so that when it comes time, the village actually have a chance.

All your jumping up and down to try and help influence the path we take is really not helping.

If the FFA is useless what should we be doing instead? Randomly throw out accusations based on little evidence and info? That's great but will be worth didly squat in a couple of days when people will have to trawl through thousands of posts to discern a pattern.

In two or three days we will be able to look at 4 posts and see patterns. 2 FFA total posts and 2 Lynch vote posts.

This is a proven way of catching wolves bandwagoning and flip flopping. It works. Stop fighting it.

Conor WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

I'm up for that

Not voting for you either. FFS. People need to look outside of the active posters a little bit tomorrow.

Catch you all on the other side if I survive.

Nigel WW

Struggling to see the interest in Frank myself, Tegan I can understand somewhat by being so heavy handed, be interesting to see if we get everyone voting looking at the post counts

Riona WW

Liam WW wrote: »

None from
Steve
Frank
Doris
Orla
Riona
Desmond
Gertrude
Mary
Holly
Phil

I thought Frank posted one tbh, pretty sure I was on two

You are incorrect - I posted earlier!

Barbara WW

I can confirm I wont be voting for anyone in the top 3 in post #653.

I hope this doesnt influence anyones voting but just puting it out there.

Conor WW

Jake WW wrote: »

Conor, you keep on living in the here and now and I'll keep on thinking about later and about after I'm dead and can directly help the village, so that when it comes time, the village actually have a chance.

All your jumping up and down to try and help influence the path we take is really not helping.

If the FFA is useless what should we be doing instead? Randomly throw out accusations based on little evidence and info? That's great but will be worth didly squat in a couple of days when people will have to trawl through thousands of posts to discern a pattern.

In two or three days we will be able to look at 4 posts and see patterns. 2 FFA total posts and 2 Lynch vote posts.

This is a proven way of catching wolves bandwagoning and flip flopping. It works. Stop fighting it.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

What a pile of bull plop. Going meta I see - FFAs have been done in last few games. They are not paid attention to.

All they do is give wolves targets and easy ways to bandwagon. Relying on that information alone is not going to work. End of.

Nigel WW

Riona WW wrote: »

FFA

Isla
Conor
Angus

So she did tbf

Liam WW

Riona WW wrote: »

You are incorrect - I posted earlier!

I'm going off Conors list, Conor care to update?

Riona WW wrote: »

FFA

Isla
Conor
Angus

Conor WW

Updated FFAs


Player Choice 1 Choice 2 Choice 3
Barbara Tegan Doris Riona
Angus Conor Liam Barbara
Conor Holly Isla Winifred
Steve Tegan Conor
Isla Tegan Gabriel Frank
Tegan Frank Gabriel Barbara
Nigel Conor Gabriel Doris
Liam Frank Ewan
Winifred Conor Tegan Gabriel
Gabriel Tegan Frank
Ewan Frank Conor Tegan
Jake Desmond Nigel Isla
Frank Liam Tegan Gabriel
Riona Isla Conor Angus


Collated:

Tegan 7
Conor 6
Frank 4
Gabriel 4
Isla 3
Doris 2
Barbara 2
Liam 2
Desmond 1
Nigel 1
Holly 1
Winifred 1
Ewan 1
Riona 1
Angus 1

Jake WW

Conor WW wrote:

All they do is give wolves targets and easy ways to bandwagon. Relying on that information alone is not going to work. End of.

It's not the end of. Stop your strop now and try helping instead.

Orla WW

Right I'm caught up and no wiser than I was earlier.

I don't know what to make of Conor, I had voted for him but I changed back and forth twice. I don't want to make the mistake of hanging someone just for being annoying.

I agree with the idea that Isla's posts were fluffy, but I suppose that's "bandwagonning" at this stage

I didn't vote for either of these people ( well actually I did, but I almost immediately reconsidered, sorry mods)

Jake WW

Also I never said we rely on it alone. You are putting words in my mouth and harming your own cause no end imo

Angus WW

I'm switching to Alain, based on overall performance tonight.

Final thoughts in case I get munched.

I feel Liam and Steve were working together. I think Steve has gone very quite since I said I felt Liam had a partner.

Don't trust Barbara either. Pushing to ignore Moggy does nothing but benefit Moggy and benefit the wolves. It does not benefit the village at all.

Tegan feels like a railroad, and I'd be looking at the people who were FFAing him this evening. Steve and Babs being on that list makes me even more suspicious of them.

Jake WW

Who is Alain?

Barbara WW

Whos Alain?

Angus WW

*Liam

Don't know what the hell that autocorrect is.

Gabriel WW

Angus WW wrote: »

I'm switching to Alain, based on overall performance tonight.

Final thoughts in case I get munched.

I feel Liam and Steve were working together. I think Steve has gone very quite since I said I felt Liam had a partner.

Don't trust Barbara either. Pushing to ignore Moggy does nothing but benefit Moggy and benefit the wolves. It does not benefit the village at all.

Tegan feels like a railroad, and I'd be looking at the people who were FFAing him this evening. Steve and Babs being on that list makes me even more suspicious of them.

Who he decks Alain

Conor WW

A vote for me is a vote for a villager, an unimportant one, but a villager nonetheless. Jake, try not to obsess over FFAs, you will not know for a day or two the alignments of players as the priest should not come out anytime soon.

So you won't be able to see if someone is bandwagoning or not.

I voted for Winifred, who is a baddie. Going with gut.

Tegan WW

Musical interlude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IcSuv9tZow

Gabriel WW

Conor WW wrote: »

A vote for me is a vote for a villager, an unimportant one, but a villager nonetheless. Jake, try not to obsess over FFAs, you will not know for a day or two the alignments of players as the priest should not come out anytime soon.

So you won't be able to see if someone is bandwagoning or not.

I voted for Winifred, who is a baddie. Going with gut.

You not getting wini over the line, your not getting her near the line tbd but fair play sticking to your guns

Jake WW

Conor WW wrote:

A vote for me is a vote for a villager, an unimportant one, but a villager nonetheless. Jake, try not to obsess over FFAs, you will not know for a day or two the alignments of players as the priest should not come out anytime soon.

Yeah cause being able to see in a few days if there was bandwagoning in the early game won't be important then. Sure we can just get everyone to go back once the priest comes out and do their FFA for day 1 then #sarcasm

Are you reading your own posts. You are directly contradicting yourself and offering no logical alternative for getting info.

Tegan WW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQPmtjHzh4

Conor WW

Jake WW wrote: »

Yeah cause being able to see in a few days if there was bandwagoning in the early game won't be important then. Sure we can just get everyone to go back once the priest comes out and do their FFA for day 1 then #sarcasm

Are you reading your own posts. You are directly contradicting yourself and offering no logical alternative for getting info.

Why the hell are you so aggressive over this.

Do the FFAs, fine. But they won't determine a damn thing for at least two days by which rate another villager or two will be mislynched. Never seen such obsession over a flawed formula in all of my days.

Barbara WW

We have always done ffas, I dont know of alternative to getting voting pattern info. Anyone saying they are useless is deluded.

Frank WW

I f*cking hate first night lynch. It can be so random and unfair

Jake WW

Conor WW wrote:

Do the FFAs, fine. But they won't determine a damn thing for at least two days by which rate another villager or two will be mislynched. Never seen such obsession over a flawed formula in all of my days.

Look in the mirror pal. You are advocating not doing them in favour of what....?

tritium

Vote closed! Results to follow

Nigel WW

Frank WW wrote: »

I f*cking hate first night lynch. It can be so random and unfair

Agreed, I rarely feel good after it